John Lewis Complete Travel System Pushchair/Pram in Sand & Black £200 (was £400) includes Car Seat! Free Delivery!
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John Lewis Complete Travel System Pushchair/Pram in Sand & Black £200 (was £400) includes Car Seat! Free Delivery!

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Found 21st Jun 2012
Hi all,

I'm pregnant expecting our first child and prams/pushchairs/buggies/travel systems were mind bogglingly confusing to me. I put off doing all the research until recently and was horrified to see how much it can all cost.

Today in the sale I came across the John Lewis Travel System which comes with a car seat so for us, that is all bases covered. All for £200! Car seats alone can cost over a 100 quid.

Went into Westfield Stratford after work to see it in person and it really is a nifty light pushchair which rivals the other big names. Collapses down easily and is both parent and rear facing. The storage basket is huge which unusually has its own cover so all your bits stay clean and dry and all in all an excellent piece of kit.

My husband and I liked it in Sand but it also came in black johnlewis.com/231…spx. It also has a carry cot as an optional extra down to £50 from £100 johnlewis.com/231…spx

It has mixed reviews but even the negative reviews seem to state that as it is less than a year old they are mostly teething problems and John Lewis are very good with their 2 year warranty which comes as standard. I've done some general googling and parenting forums seem to review it favourably so we've put in an order. It looks swish, on par which those that cost £600+, it has a car seat which we would have needed to buy separately that slots into the main chassis so baby doesn't have to be woken up when you get to your destination. It is both parent and rear facing, parent facing was very important to us and that feature alone normally means the price shoots up. It also comes with a raincover and footmuff as standard which you have to buy as optional extras with some of other brands and it is all for £200. What's not to like?

Apologies for the huge description but hope this helps someone in a similar situation to mine.

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Original Poster

Oh and I couldn't find any quidco/discount vouchers to use alongside the lower price. But still a good deal methinks.

Its always worth looking out for a similar system at Mothercare, they have Oh yeah, its lined with real Giraffe... this fella here which often drops to £200 too. Also comes with 2 year guarantee, but is a very sturdy system.

Welcome to the club, we are a month into our first child, and found all the choices equally mindboggling. With ANY equipment/aids for bringing up baby, best advice is just to look about and go with whichever piece you find you and your partner are most comfortable with, no matter what others say really. I didnt get on with the 4 wheeler systems, much preferred the 3 wheelers, but each to their own.

Edited by: "HertzVR" 22nd Jun 2012

Looks like a great deal for a 3-in-1 travel system for £250 if you buy the carrycot too.

We've gone from a 4-wheeler bugaboo chameleon to a 3-wheel quinny speedi recently and while the versatility of the bugaboo was great the quinny definitely feels easier to push with it's 3 big weeels.

Worth noting you should always check the car seat fits in your particular car before buying as not all car seats fit in all cars due to the shape of some back seats.

Excellent price I think.

EDIT: It's probably worth getting the carry cot as well.

www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Vesta-3-Wheeler-Travel-System---Flame-Red/233204,default,pd.html?cm_sp=ProductFeatures-_-Category%2520landing-_-Mothercare%2520Vesta%25203-Wheeler%2520Travel%2520System%2520-%2520Flame%2520Red&q=Vesta&q=Vesta

8 Months in with this and cant fault it.
Potentially £135 with the discount code 'KLTM'

it looks almost identical to the my4 my fav!

Thanks for this,
Choosing a travel system is a nightmare...I thought I had decided on the Britax B4, but now I may have to change my mind and go for this one!

Looks very similar in design to the Bugaboo frog- and begin John Lewis it will be made well enough. 16 months too late for me, but a bargain for someone. Hot.

Hot.
Preferred 3 wheelers myself.
Congratulations to op and all

A bug bear of mine is the ISOFIX system - a great innovation (if compatible with your car) but the bases cost £100+ Our Silver Cross system was £300 with a free car seat, but then another £125 for the car seat base was like a low blow!

At least we can tell if little one appreciates it when they arrive next month

HertzVR

Its always worth looking out for a similar system at Mothercare, they … Its always worth looking out for a similar system at Mothercare, they have Oh yeah, its lined with real Giraffe... this fella here which often drops to £200 too. Also comes with 2 year guarantee, but is a very sturdy system.



We also bought the Grey Mist version of this when it went down to £180. It was beyond perfect for us, saved us so much compared to what else was on the market. And I also agree, having tried the 4 wheelers, I am so much happier with my 3 wheeler

Sounds like a good price, but as with all of these travel systems, be aware that young babies (I can't remember the age limit) shouldn't be in a car seat for more than 2 hours as this can affect their spine growth. As travel system effectively use the car seat within the buggy, this needs to be taken into consideration.

i really want to get the Joolz Day system, but with deals like this certainly makes me wonder!

SuffolkLad222

Sounds like a good price, but as with all of these travel systems, be … Sounds like a good price, but as with all of these travel systems, be aware that young babies (I can't remember the age limit) shouldn't be in a car seat for more than 2 hours as this can affect their spine growth. As travel system effectively use the car seat within the buggy, this needs to be taken into consideration.



Affect spine growth?? Lets have that backed up with a couple of peer reviewed papers please...

eatmorefish

Affect spine growth?? Lets have that backed up with a couple of peer … Affect spine growth?? Lets have that backed up with a couple of peer reviewed papers please...



There's not much on issues with 'spine growth', but here's the information posted on use of car seats - feel free to follow the internal links to the full report and bibliography:
http://www.dbh.nhs.uk/Car_seat_awareness.aspx

The relevant summary is here:

"Car seats are designed to keep babies safe while travelling, not as a main sleeping place. The research recommends that frequent breaks are taken on long journeys to get the baby out of the seat, even if this involves waking the baby up. The same applies when bringing the baby into the home if they have fallen asleep in the car seat. The baby’s warm outdoor clothing should be taken off, even if this involves waking the baby.

If the baby is due a sleep, they should be taken out of the car seat and put into a cot or crib; the safest place for a baby to sleep is on a firm, flat mattress - a car seat does not meet this requirement. Worryingly, it has been found that some babies were spending hour after hour in car seats, ie during the journey, transferring the car seat in a travel system pram, and once home allowing the baby to continue sleeping in the car seat rather than waking the baby up and placing in them in a cot or crib.

All the advice suggests that babies should not spend longer than possible in a car seat, especially whilst sleeping."

I have 6-week-old daughter and we try to avoid placing her in the car seat for extended periods, e.g. using a cot option for the travel system when we're out of the car. This seems to marry with the advice we were given by midwifes/doctors. It's not too much trouble to put her in the cot... (well not when you stack it up against the sleepless nights)
Edited by: "yokohamaboy" 22nd Jun 2012

And a little more from NHS Solihull on issues with pressures on the skull (which is obviously still forming in the first few months):
solihull.nhs.uk/Hel…eep,-tummy-to-play

There's more information on trying to avoid leaving your child in one position for extended periods of time, but they do say, "Limit time spent in a car seat and buggies."

Original Poster

My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully convinced we'd get much use out of it it. Googled "do i really need a carrycot?" and a whole minefield of opinions came up. In terms of the spine safety angle it seems that it is ok for bubba to be in car seat for 2-3 hours upto 6 months and after that there are no worries. I doubt I'd use the pushchair for longer than 2 hours. Popping out for walks etc shouldn't take over 2 hours for me. I'd have a sling too. So really weighing up the carrycot option.

On a side point, thanks for all the heat! My husband is usually the one who puts any deals up and I'm fairly nonchalant about it all but I've made the front page! Woot woot. Just glad it is helping some of you.

When we were looking for a travel system. The one we went with, Jane Slalom R Strata, also mention about having break every 2 hours. This was more to do with Pulmonary development. Car seats tend to scrunch a child up, restricting breathing. (Try curling up and taking a deep breath, its not too easy.)

At the end of the day all of these systems must pass some kind of testing so are safe. Any additional advisory comments are there to protect your child. So white papers or peer reviews or not, who would want to take the chance.

MrAndMrsA

My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully … My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully convinced we'd get much use out of it it. Googled "do i really need a carrycot?" and a whole minefield of opinions came up. In terms of the spine safety angle it seems that it is ok for bubba to be in car seat for 2-3 hours upto 6 months and after that there are no worries. I doubt I'd use the pushchair for longer than 2 hours. Popping out for walks etc shouldn't take over 2 hours for me. I'd have a sling too. So really weighing up the carrycot option.On a side point, thanks for all the heat! My husband is usually the one who puts any deals up and I'm fairly nonchalant about it all but I've made the front page! Woot woot. Just glad it is helping some of you.



We ended up getting a carry cot which doubles as a lay flat car seat for long journeys in a sale. It has been handy as a day bed downstairs with a mattress in it and using the moses basket upstairs at night. Go with what you can afford, have space for and are comfortable with. You could get the carry cot in a different colour to give you 2 pram 'outfits'

MrAndMrsA

My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully … My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully convinced we'd get much use out of it it. Googled "do i really need a carrycot?" and a whole minefield of opinions came up. In terms of the spine safety angle it seems that it is ok for bubba to be in car seat for 2-3 hours upto 6 months and after that there are no worries. I doubt I'd use the pushchair for longer than 2 hours. Popping out for walks etc shouldn't take over 2 hours for me. I'd have a sling too. So really weighing up the carrycot option.On a side point, thanks for all the heat! My husband is usually the one who puts any deals up and I'm fairly nonchalant about it all but I've made the front page! Woot woot. Just glad it is helping some of you.



We got one with the Buggaboo we have at home and never use it, IMHO wouldn't bother.

I suggest checking the black version reviews, lots of durability problems apparently.

Good price for a travel system, so have some heat.

GOOD DESCRIPTION&EFFORT ..voted hot

Original Poster

annodomini2

I suggest checking the black version reviews, lots of durability problems … I suggest checking the black version reviews, lots of durability problems apparently.Good price for a travel system, so have some heat.



when i mentioned the reviews I took into account the black version's comments. There are problems but JL are good about their guarantee. I took a punch, for the price there is nothing like it in terms of looks and features for us. But yes one should proceed with caution.

I used my carrycot for six months. Baby loved it. It also gave me the reassurance that baby was sleeping flat and on a mattress. Personally, I hate to see babies in carseats on a pram chassis... Especially if they don't actually own a vehicle.

eatmorefish

Affect spine growth?? Lets have that backed up with a couple of peer … Affect spine growth?? Lets have that backed up with a couple of peer reviewed papers please...



So...I post a quick word of advice about consideration points and I'm expected to take hours of my precious morning to justify it to people that are unable to Google "baby car seat breaks" am I? I won't bother trying to help next time!!!

SuffolkLad222

So...I post a quick word of advice about consideration points and I'm … So...I post a quick word of advice about consideration points and I'm expected to take hours of my precious morning to justify it to people that are unable to Google "baby car seat breaks" am I? I won't bother trying to help next time!!!



Reading further, luckily it seems that others were able to use initiative based on my good-intentioned post.
Edited by: "SuffolkLad222" 22nd Jun 2012

Congratulations on the pregnancy! Have some heat.

Is the pushchair suitible from birth without the carseat or travel cot? Normally are if they lie flat and if thats the case i wouldnt get the Carrycot just take baby from carseat and directly into seat unit

Just to note, there may be a couple of bad reviews about small issues on John Lewis site, but loads of great reviews on kiddicare site for the Imax which is the same pram. (also at £199)

http://www.kiddicare.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productdisplay0_10751_-1_111447_10001?cm_vc=WeRecommendIO


Both prams are modelled on the Mychild Pinto I think, and they are rebadged as JL, Kiddicare etc.

Original Poster

^ That's correct, I came across that in my research too. I should add that at £199 the above does not include a car seat though (from my understanding). Rather it just comes with the adaptors.

Even if it did I'd prefer to get it from John Lewis who have nationwide stores you can pop into and reputable customer service if you were to come across a problem.

But thanks for adding the link, the reviews should put some minds at ease.

MrAndMrsA

My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully … My husband is wanting to add the carrycot to our order and I'm not fully convinced we'd get much use out of it it. Googled "do i really need a carrycot?" and a whole minefield of opinions came up. In terms of the spine safety angle it seems that it is ok for bubba to be in car seat for 2-3 hours upto 6 months and after that there are no worries. I doubt I'd use the pushchair for longer than 2 hours. Popping out for walks etc shouldn't take over 2 hours for me. I'd have a sling too. So really weighing up the carrycot option.On a side point, thanks for all the heat! My husband is usually the one who puts any deals up and I'm fairly nonchalant about it all but I've made the front page! Woot woot. Just glad it is helping some of you.



We got a cot with our first and it was very useful. Especially when we went on holiday - it doubled up as a travel cot at night and as the buggy in the day. Our little one slept really well in it too. I think he felt safe and enclosed.

Edd1980

Just to note, there may be a couple of bad reviews about small issues on … Just to note, there may be a couple of bad reviews about small issues on John Lewis site, but loads of great reviews on kiddicare site for the Imax which is the same pram. (also at £199)http://www.kiddicare.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productdisplay0_10751_-1_111447_10001?cm_vc=WeRecommendIOBoth prams are modelled on the Mychild Pinto I think, and they are rebadged as JL, Kiddicare etc.



I managed to get a brand new (from Kiddicare) Imax Adapt when pregnant for the princely sum of £75 thanks to a Bounty flash sale...

However, after about 4 weeks of use I sold it and bought an iCandy peach blossom (now expecting no.3). The Imax is okay....but it doesn't compare to the high end pushchairs in terms of build quality. I imagine this will probably be the same.
Edited by: "1on4" 22nd Jun 2012

jesus christ, having a baby is expensive

Orcinus_orca

jesus christ, having a baby is expensive



Only as expensive as you make it. Babies are cheap - children are expensive.
Edited by: "1on4" 22nd Jun 2012

I definitely recommend a carrycot. When our baby fell asleep on a walk we just removed it from the wheels and he could continue to sleep flat and comfortably. We also used it for daytime naps until he grew out of it.

Now all the council estate chav's can get it withing their benefit budget.

Bought one

heat added

Wife happy

Original Poster

aston_martin_own

Now all the council estate chav's can get it withing their benefit budget.



what an odd thing to say.

MrAndMrsA

what an odd thing to say.



I know i dont why people come on here and post things like that, lol ...its a deals website you total numpty, Aston_Martin_Own get over to the Daily Mail website , im sure your nonsense will go down a treat ....


after loads of research we went for the icandy but personally for this sort of money, i would try and get a Quinny Buzz which we purchased for our holiday for £200 (from argos), my wife looked at this and said it felt cheap , but then again with all the things included for £200, there's not much near it in terms of value and like the OP says a 2 year warranty from JL is brilliant.

Edited by: "NAZ17" 22nd Jun 2012
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