JOHNSTONES SILK/MATT VINYL EMULSION 10L TUBS   10% OFF - £14.99 @ Argos (Free C&C)
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JOHNSTONES SILK/MATT VINYL EMULSION 10L TUBS 10% OFF - £14.99 @ Argos (Free C&C)

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Found 22nd Apr 2017
SILK VINYL EMULSION 10 L TUBS OF JOHNSTONES SILK/MATT WHITE VINYL EMULSION £14.99
NOT THE CHEAPEST EMULSION PRICE
BUT IT IS HARDER WEARING AND MORE WASHABLE THAN ORDINARY EMULSION

(MATT HERE argos.co.uk/pro…770 )
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Bought this at same price in The Range. It looks fine on the wall but found it took and extra coat compared with Crown matt emulsion that I used previously.
Homebase - Price £12 (10 litre + 25% Free + 12 Litres) Johnstones Emulsion
PEARLnDEAN

Homebase - Price £12 (10 litre + 25% Free + 12 Litres) Johnstones Emulsion


dont think the silk is as cheap as this,
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smokedsausage

dont think the silk is as cheap as this,


This is VINYL emulsion harder wearing and more durable than non vinyl emulsion
trade paints are vastly superior, a lot of these products are like coloured water, the trade ones at the trade centres have increased vinyl content, higher spreading rates 16sm2 coverage a litre v 12sm2 and tend to cover in less coats, wiping out any small difference in price esp if you are paying a decorator. macpherson paints is a good budget trade paint brand, crown decor centres, they would mix you any colour any brand (or close enough).
also good advice if people are struggling to get a decent decorator or any other tradesman, ask at your local trade centres they will point you in the right direction, these guys will know the local market in tradesmen. stay away from gumtree adverts mostly chancers that are no more a decorator than yourself. 130 to 180 a 8 hr day is the going rate depending where you are.
Screwfix or jtf usually have Leyland trade for about £15 for 10l. I find the Leyland covers better. It goes on quite greyish but dries amazingly white!
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smokedsausage

trade paints are vastly superior, a lot of these products are like … trade paints are vastly superior, a lot of these products are like coloured water, the trade ones at the trade centres have increased vinyl content, higher spreading rates 16sm2 coverage a litre v 12sm2 and tend to cover in less coats, wiping out any small difference in price esp if you are paying a decorator. macpherson paints is a good budget trade paint brand, crown decor centres, they would mix you any colour any brand (or close enough). also good advice if people are struggling to get a decent decorator or any other tradesman, ask at your local trade centres they will point you in the right direction, these guys will know the local market in tradesmen. stay away from gumtree adverts mostly chancers that are no more a decorator than yourself. 130 to 180 a 8 hr day is the going rate depending where you are.


Most people cannott afford a decorator nor can they afford TRADE paints in Crown or Dulux centres (unless they are on a really good offer). Getting a colour mixed in a Paint centre is probably one of the most expensive ways of having it done, its OK if you have a TRADE/Busness account with a decent discount, if not then its an arm and a leg price.
The crown decor centres do have pretty good hot deals that are open to all, like l say they will match any dulux farrow and ball etc colour, the paint goes further a 5litr of dulux/crown from homebase b and q etc covers 60 sm2 the macphersons covers 75 sm2 and could well save you a coat, macphersons trade is budget trade brand made by crown trade and a pretty decent product so the paint goes 20% further than retail dulux,crown johnstones

I think paints like many things you get what you pay for, i recently bought from toolstation 5 litres of Leyland trade hard-wearing Matt @ £23 on offer. So £46 for 10 litres when comparing to this deal. However it has covered well over previous colour with 2 coats my ceilings, coving and walls in my rather large 6m x 5m kitchen and 2m x 2.5m utility room. Eventually using approx 8 litres, and it's true to its spec it's very hard wearing, easy to wipe without removing paint, it's moisture resistant so when the kettle boils any steam just runs off. Very impressed with it so far, so was it worth the premium, well having bought some big tubs of dodgy paint previously i would say yes, for example the dulux 10 litre tub of standard white emulsion is only good for sealing fresh plaster, it's so thin and watered down even putting 10% in there makes it unusable, my time is money so now i only buy paint that's going to do a job in the minimum amount of time and last the longest, in the long term cheap paint is a false enonomy.
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margamboy

I think paints like many things you get what you pay for, i recently … I think paints like many things you get what you pay for, i recently bought from toolstation 5 litres of Leyland trade hard-wearing Matt @ £23 on offer. So £46 for 10 litres when comparing to this deal. However it has covered well over previous colour with 2 coats my ceilings, coving and walls in my rather large 6m x 5m kitchen and 2m x 2.5m utility room. Eventually using approx 8 litres, and it's true to its spec it's very hard wearing, easy to wipe without removing paint, it's moisture resistant so when the kettle boils any steam just runs off. Very impressed with it so far, so was it worth the premium, well having bought some big tubs of dodgy paint previously i would say yes, for example the dulux 10 litre tub of standard white emulsion is only good for sealing fresh plaster, it's so thin and watered down even putting 10% in there makes it unusable, my time is money so now i only buy paint that's going to do a job in the minimum amount of time and last the longest, in the long term cheap paint is a false enonomy.


Just because a 10L tub of emulsion is cheap doesnt mean its not fit for purpose or not going to be cost effective.
I occasionally get TRADE paint at prices even Big Decorating companies would envy. Dulux TRADE matt vinyl emulsion 10L £20 Dulux TRADE Satinwood 5L £22 But I am Just as happy to use Johnstones 10L tubs Silk/Matt Vinyl emusion as the Dulux Trade.
SCOUSEKEVIN

Just because a 10L tub of emulsion is cheap doesnt mean its not fit for … Just because a 10L tub of emulsion is cheap doesnt mean its not fit for purpose or not going to be cost effective.I occasionally get TRADE paint at prices even Big Decorating companies would envy. Dulux TRADE matt vinyl emulsion 10L £20 Dulux TRADE Satinwood 5L £22 But I am Just as happy to use Johnstones 10L tubs Silk/Matt Vinyl emusion as the Dulux Trade.



Exactly this is not fit for purpose, this is Contract Matt which is not meant for a final finish, I would use this as a first coat to cover fresh walls or where 2/3 coats are to be added on top, you don't want to be using this as your final coat, whereas Dulux Trade Vinyl you would.


Edited by: "margamboy" 23rd Apr 2017
If you're using it for new plaster I'd add at least 20% water. Most say 10% but I always find 20% better. Then two coats of your final finish!
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margamboy

Exactly this is not fit for purpose, this is Contract Matt which is not … Exactly this is not fit for purpose, this is Contract Matt which is not meant for a final finish, I would use this as a first coat to cover fresh walls or where 2/3 coats are to be added on top, you don't want to be using this as your final coat, whereas Dulux Trade Vinyl you would.


Johno`s VINYL silk/matt is better than any of the DIY Crown or Dulux 10L tubs and is more than good enough for final finish, half the time you only need one coat.
SCOUSEKEVIN

Johno`s VINYL silk/matt is better than any of the DIY Crown or Dulux 10L … Johno`s VINYL silk/matt is better than any of the DIY Crown or Dulux 10L tubs and is more than good enough for final finish, half the time you only need one coat.



I thought it was good paint but I'm not a decorator so not looking under a microscope. It's better than the Crown they'd painted it with when new.
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