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Posted 5th Oct 2018
I'm after a car seat since the guys from Schipol Airport decided to lose my little one car seat...
Still undecided but I saw this at Mothercare for £200 and almost bought it today. Glad I didn't as I can see that is cheaper on Uber Kids website.
Any thoughts about it? Or better choices in the same price range...??


Joie Every Stage FX Group 0+/1/2/3 Car Seat + Sunshades 38x45cm (Pair) and Uber Kids Padded Seat and Scuff Seat Protector worthing together £14.49.
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It’s a great choice as long as your baby/toddler is of ‘average’ height and weight. You don’t want them getting too heavy for the 5-point harness (18kg is the weight limit) before they are 4. If that were to happen you’d be forced to turn the seat forward and secure your child with the seatbelt, using the seat in booster mode while the child is still too young (that’s from a safety point of view, not a legal point of view)

Just be aware that when rear facing the isofix is not used, instead the seatbelt secures the seat. If you want to use the seat forward facing with the 5-point harness securing your child (not recommended when rear facing is so much safer) then you can use the seatbelt or the isofix points. But if you are using the isofix points your car must also have a top tether point because there is a strap on the back of the seat that must be attached to a top tether point.

Full instructions here content.joiebaby.com/wp-…pdf
Have a look at the Joie spin 360.
boots.com/joi…167

It spins around, so when they get too big for rear facing it spins around to forward facing
Also twists sideways making strapping the little one in a breeze.
We have it and it's a good, comfy seat, but Which doesn't rate it well. In fact I think it's a Don't buy? Some issue about the level of safety offered when forward facing and in the harness, the level of safety offered isn't adequate.

Good price for this seat btw. I'm sure it goes for more than £200 usually (so even the current Mothercare price must be a Sale/offer price).
Edited by: "Delio79" 6th Oct 2018
I was really sold on this seat but a little put off now based on the comment about which don't buy

I'm looking for all stages and I don't mind seat belt system (current car doesn't have iso fix and new car probably will but not looking to change just yet).

Any recommendations?
Stay clear of the spin360 if for a newborn, until they are old enough to hold their head up
ceanth2 h, 10 m ago

I was really sold on this seat but a little put off now based on the …I was really sold on this seat but a little put off now based on the comment about which don't buy :(I'm looking for all stages and I don't mind seat belt system (current car doesn't have iso fix and new car probably will but not looking to change just yet). Any recommendations?


I’d recommend you ignore the ‘Don’t Buy’ status!

It was only rated ‘Don’t Buy’ because of poor crash tests results for frontal collisions when used as a forward facing Group 1 seat (that’s where the child is 9-18kg, forward facing with the 5-point harness securing them into the seat).

There is no need to ever use this seat forward facing with the harness, you can keep it rear facing to the 18kg maximum harness limit and then switch to it forward face as a high backed booster with the seatbelt securing the child into the seat. It scores well for frontal collisions in both those modes. And side impact protection is good whoever you chose the use the seat.

This is just yet another example of Which? not fully explaining the reasons for the ‘Don’t Buy’ status and misleading parents. They have managed to give a ‘Don’t Buy’ status to quite a few other extended rear facing seats, some of which have passed the Swedish Plus Test and are the safest child seats you can buy.
Thank you all for answering. Is there a website where I can see wich car seat does well in crash test..?
I mean if a car seat is not that safe why they allow it on the market?
danflorin34 m ago

Thank you all for answering. Is there a website where I can see wich car …Thank you all for answering. Is there a website where I can see wich car seat does well in crash test..?I mean if a car seat is not that safe why they allow it on the market?

which.co.uk/rev…ats
I have this and it is a great choice, beware it is a big and heavy seat
danflorin306/10/2018 08:26

Thank you all for answering. Is there a website where I can see wich car …Thank you all for answering. Is there a website where I can see wich car seat does well in crash test..?I mean if a car seat is not that safe why they allow it on the market?


Not all car seats are as safe as others to be safe enough to sell on the market it must perform adequately in a 30mph forward collision and 20mph rear collision and no side impact testing is required.
The Isize regulations do require side testing.

There is a German independent testing site adac though you may need Google translate.

which dock marks for things that are not actually to do with crash performance.

The only 123 style the performed well though in adac tests to the best of my knowledge was the cybex 123 seats with the impact cushion and a joie one of a similar style with a cushion.

If your little one is young yet I would suggest bearing in mind the fabric might not be in a good state in 5 years time and you might not want to be driving them around in a seat that the safety is 8 years behind new ones by the time you finish with it. A cot is a cot but car seats are improving safety wise all the time.

I would compare the price with a good group 1 seat if you would get a few years out of a group 1 seat and see from there.

If you do want the joie one you are asking an opinion on its worth comparing with the joie bold one someone put on hotukdeals this morning.
Edited by: "jdRiggs" 6th Oct 2018
jdRiggs06/10/2018 10:22

Not all car seats are as safe as others to be safe enough to sell on the …Not all car seats are as safe as others to be safe enough to sell on the market it must perform adequately in a 30mph forward collision and 20mph rear collision and no side impact testing is required.The Isize regulations do require side testing.There is a German independent testing site adac though you may need Google translate.which dock marks for things that are not actually to do with crash performance.The only 123 style the performed well though in adac tests to the best of my knowledge was the cybex 123 seats with the impact cushion and a joie one of a similar style with a cushion.If your little one is young yet I would suggest bearing in mind the fabric might not be in a good state in 5 years time and you might not want to be driving them around in a seat that the safety is 8 years behind new ones by the time you finish with it. A cot is a cot but car seats are improving safety wise all the time.I would compare the price with a good group 1 seat if you would get a few years out of a group 1 seat and see from there.If you do want the joie one you are asking an opinion on its worth comparing with the joie bold one someone put on hotukdeals this morning.


It is a bit hard to decide...reviews are mixed for all car seat. My little one is 8 months 'young'
Joie Bold has isofix?
This one has isofix integrated and from what I understood isofix ones are better.. although you can use isofix only when faced forward..
Edited by: "danflorin3" 6th Oct 2018
danflorin306/10/2018 10:41

It is a bit hard to decide...reviews are mixed for all car seat. My little …It is a bit hard to decide...reviews are mixed for all car seat. My little one is 8 months 'young' Joie Bold has isofix?This one has isofix integrated and from what I understood isofix ones are better.. although you can use isofix only when faced forward..


At 8 months old your little one needs to stay rear facing for a long time yet, and the Bold is forward facing only so you shouldn’t buy that one. I’m talking from a safety point of view here, the Bold is forward facing from 9kg, so legally if your 8 month old weighs 9kg (20lbs) they can go it it, but this would be the least safe option for them.

Isofix is not better or safer than using the seatbelt. In theory isofix removes some of the risk of incorrect fitting because in general isofix seats are simpler to fit, but a seat fitted correctly with the seatbelt is just as safe as a seat fitted correctly to the isofix points.
andreah90306/10/2018 11:28

At 8 months old your little one needs to stay rear facing for a long time …At 8 months old your little one needs to stay rear facing for a long time yet, and the Bold is forward facing only so you shouldn’t buy that one. I’m talking from a safety point of view here, the Bold is forward facing from 9kg, so legally if your 8 month old weighs 9kg (20lbs) they can go it it, but this would be the least safe option for them. Isofix is not better or safer than using the seatbelt. In theory isofix removes some of the risk of incorrect fitting because in general isofix seats are simpler to fit, but a seat fitted correctly with the seatbelt is just as safe as a seat fitted correctly to the isofix points.


Much appreciated u'r help. Thank you and have a lovely weekend!
danflorin306/10/2018 14:57

Much appreciated u'r help. Thank you and have a lovely weekend!


No problem, I do actually have child seat training as an independent advisor (I decided to formalise my insane interest in child seats, I have three children and the youngest is still rear facing at 6 1/2) just so you know I’m not some random internet person just making stuff up! Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend too.
Joie have quite a good website of their own explaining rear facing safety lookbacklonger.com
andreah90306/10/2018 15:15

No problem, I do actually have child seat training as an independent …No problem, I do actually have child seat training as an independent advisor (I decided to formalise my insane interest in child seats, I have three children and the youngest is still rear facing at 6 1/2) just so you know I’m not some random internet person just making stuff up! Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend too. Joie have quite a good website of their own explaining rear facing safety www.lookbacklonger.com


Right..I think I'll go for this one if is thru the best seats on the market. I'll have another look tonight at car seats up to 4 years...I doubt it that this will last up to 12 years:)))
danflorin33 h, 55 m ago

Right..I think I'll go for this one if is thru the best seats on the …Right..I think I'll go for this one if is thru the best seats on the market. I'll have another look tonight at car seats up to 4 years...I doubt it that this will last up to 12 years:)))


besafe izi range are worth a look when you are taking another look, they do very well in crash performance
andreah90318 h, 48 m ago

No problem, I do actually have child seat training as an independent …No problem, I do actually have child seat training as an independent advisor (I decided to formalise my insane interest in child seats, I have three children and the youngest is still rear facing at 6 1/2) just so you know I’m not some random internet person just making stuff up! Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend too. Joie have quite a good website of their own explaining rear facing safety www.lookbacklonger.com


I went for this one..I was after this that I've posted, joie 360 and I choose the Amazon one..

amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07D2NGW2B/ref=oh_aui_i_sh_pre_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edited by: "danflorin3" 7th Oct 2018
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