Join National Trust Scotland and still visit the England sites, save £££'s
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Join National Trust Scotland and still visit the England sites, save £££'s

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Found 23rd Feb 2017
If you are a member of the English National Trust and want to save some money then join National Trust Scotland instead. You still get access to the England sites (amongst others) and on the whole you will make a large saving. I bought my Mum a joint senior membership and saved over £50 on the English National Trust prices because she was over 60, in England she would have also had to have been a member for a number of years to qualify but not for National Trust Scotland she could join as a new member. Happy Saving!
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ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!


I would agree but remember the CEO is happy to take a £180k salary(having moved from her £140k civil service pay with gold plated pension) whilst employing many, many volunteers who have to pay their own fuel to get to work.
http://www.nationaltrustannualreport.org.uk/investing-in-people/
They talk about rewarding staff, yet they seek out volunteers so they don't have to pay a wage...
If you have saved a few quid on cheaper membership, slip a tip in the jar on the way out for the room guides and other volunteers.

Edited by: "winchman" 21st Mar 2017
We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart from feeling crap when being grilled on where we live in New Zealand and if we're having a good holiday. At this point, the Mrs & kids turn completely mute as I do my Chips O'Toole impression...G'day mate!
Yes go on; we'll pay for the upkeep of the properties whilst you guys (especially NZ "members") use deception and a loop-hole to enjoy at our expense.
ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!


True but the other way of thinking about it is that more people will visit their sites and possibly spend more in their small onsite stores. For some it isn't about saving money but what is affordable, there is a big difference in the family membership cost and surely it is better for kids to be out in the outdoors learning rather than stuck in front of the tv during school holidays? Not all HUKD members are money grabbers ;).
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You won't get free parking at the many National Trust sites that have a chargeable car park.
There are lots of coastal and countryside sites where there are car park charges.

It has been posted on here before that it is even cheaper by joining New Zealand or Bermuda's equivalent to the National Trust - they also get you access to the England sites
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Good spot OP. Do bear in mind that these cheaper options don't always cover parking costs at NT properties like the more expensive memberships do. I looked into this a while back when we applied for the senior membership discount, which is when I discovered various cheaper options from as far afield as New Zealand and Guernsey, but in the small print it does point out that these cheaper deals do mean additional costs at the properties sometimes.
others will come on saying its cheaper at the New Zealand one or other but if you like to keep the money in the UK this is the best one, its much cheaper and the option to do direct debit is excellent, though thing the National Trust have also started this.
National Trust England are also changing car parking shortly. This will require the sticker in the window and also use of the membership card to get a parking ticket.
lju

National Trust England are also changing car parking shortly. This will … National Trust England are also changing car parking shortly. This will require the sticker in the window and also use of the membership card to get a parking ticket.


Our local NT property has recently introduced ticket machines whereas it used to be free parking (since you had to pay to enter the property). I suspect many properties where it used to be free to park will be like this so you'll always end up paying if you don't have the NT membership.
We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart from feeling crap when being grilled on where we live in New Zealand and if we're having a good holiday. At this point, the Mrs & kids turn completely mute as I do my Chips O'Toole impression...G'day mate!

Does my NTS membership give me entry to National Trust sites?Hide Yes. … Does my NTS membership give me entry to National Trust sites?Hide Yes. Our reciprocal agreement with other National Trust organisations around the world means your NTS Membership gives to free entry to a number of our partners - see the full list here. Where free parking is offered to National Trust members it is also extended to NTS members.



from the nts site
Edited by: "luluovechunks" 23rd Feb 2017
ne0prene

If you are a member of the English National Trust and want to save … If you are a member of the English National Trust and want to save some money then join National Trust Scotland instead. You still get access to the England sites (amongst others) and on the whole you will make a large saving. I bought my Mum a joint senior membership and saved over £50 on the English National Trust prices because she was over 55, in England she would have also had to have been a member for a number of years to qualify but not for National Trust Scotland she could join as a new member. Happy Saving!



hiya - any more info on the "55" aspect, as it seems to clearly state "60" as the threshold on the website?

cheers
If The Natsi party have their way this wont be available much longer.

Hopefully people see through their nonsense....... again.
Yes go on; we'll pay for the upkeep of the properties whilst you guys (especially NZ "members") use deception and a loop-hole to enjoy at our expense.
Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!
ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!


True but the other way of thinking about it is that more people will visit their sites and possibly spend more in their small onsite stores. For some it isn't about saving money but what is affordable, there is a big difference in the family membership cost and surely it is better for kids to be out in the outdoors learning rather than stuck in front of the tv during school holidays? Not all HUKD members are money grabbers ;).
airbiscuits

We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart … We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart from feeling crap when being grilled on where we live in New Zealand and if we're having a good holiday. At this point, the Mrs & kids turn completely mute as I do my Chips O'Toole impression...G'day mate!


we got grilled at our local NT property last week. She asked if we were enjoying our holiday - I explained we weren't on holiday and live locally. She looked at me in disgust! I then had to make up a story that we were holidaying in Scotland earlier in the year and took out the membership whilst there. I could feel my nose growing as the kids were looking at me in disgust for blatantly lying to the lady - eek!

Our NT (England) membership has just renewed, and its better now they allow you pay monthly DD.

Think our family renewal works out about £9/month... much more pallatable than a one off £100 or so.

airbiscuits

We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart … We got the family New Zealand one - never had any issues with it - apart from feeling crap when being grilled on where we live in New Zealand and if we're having a good holiday. At this point, the Mrs & kids turn completely mute as I do my Chips O'Toole impression...G'day mate!



We did try the NZ membership one year, and didn't have an issue using it at both NT and English Heritage properties, but we also had a few 'awkward' conversations where we were asked how our holiday was going.... "Erm, fine, but I only travelled here from Newcastle!" Hehe

Edited by: "johnson293" 23rd Feb 2017
Less of your money is going towards keeping these nice places open to visit if you do this so I would go with the English version if you can afford it! But of course, if you're strapped for cash give it a shot.
Please be aware that whilst cheap, these Scottish memberships don't contribute a penny to the upkeep of the NT of England and Wales properties. Each time a valid NT memership is scanned at a property they receive a percentage of the admission fee back from the head office, which goes towards maintaining the building, paying staff and covering volunteering costs. Whereas they receive exactly 0% from anyone scanning these Scottish passes.

The upkeep of the houses is phenomenal, and whilst you save a few quid buying these cheaper passes, the house is loosing valuable revenue from scanning valid BRritish NT members. Please help support their valuable work in maintaining our heritage and don't buy these.
sossidge

hiya - any more info on the "55" aspect, as it seems to clearly state … hiya - any more info on the "55" aspect, as it seems to clearly state "60" as the threshold on the website?cheers



Cheers for that, I'll update the post. Not sure why I thought 55.
ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!


I would agree but remember the CEO is happy to take a £180k salary(having moved from her £140k civil service pay with gold plated pension) whilst employing many, many volunteers who have to pay their own fuel to get to work.
http://www.nationaltrustannualreport.org.uk/investing-in-people/
They talk about rewarding staff, yet they seek out volunteers so they don't have to pay a wage...
If you have saved a few quid on cheaper membership, slip a tip in the jar on the way out for the room guides and other volunteers.

Edited by: "winchman" 21st Mar 2017
Zoom_Zoom230

If The Natsi party have their way this wont be available much … If The Natsi party have their way this wont be available much longer.Hopefully people see through their nonsense....... again.




are you bored ? isn't your comment nothing to do with this thread and also round objects ? btw... 'don't bother asking as you'll get no reply' sex pistols.
The parking is the main drawback, although i'm not sure if the car parks are monitored or not. We had the Scottish membership for a year, parked at all the places we visited, and had no comeback at all. When showing the Scottish tickets we've never had any remarks at all.

Remember the NT charges massive amounts for parking, even for NT members, at a couple of places, including our local Wakehurst. (I know it's Kew really, but the effect is the same). £10 for a visit if you need more than an hour, which of course everyone does.

Don't feel at all guilty 'depriving' NT of income. Although they are a charity, that is just a business construct. They aren't a charity in the sense of most understand it, i.e. helping the needy. They have the slickest lawyers very adept at evicting their tenants when they feel like it. At the other end of the scale you wouldn't get to live your final years in considerable luxury at a beautiful NT property with subsidised rent unless you were somewhat upper middle class.

Edited by: "grahamc2003" 23rd Feb 2017
Zoom_Zoom230

If The Natsi party have their way this wont be available much … If The Natsi party have their way this wont be available much longer.Hopefully people see through their nonsense....... again.



The Tory and Little Englander party?
ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!



There's that point of view, and the other which is the that the NT will rip-off non-members through parking charges, café and extra admissions fees to different parts of the grounds. Went to Lyme Park near Stockport recently and some of the charges were shocking - car park for £7, small bowl of soup for £6 etc. Don't tell me this is all for the 'upkeep of the site' -someone is trousering a lot of money out of this Heritage site business. I'd have no qualms exploiting this, how shall we describe it, loophole.
Edited by: "alex_dis" 23rd Feb 2017
thomasjmaze

Please be aware that whilst cheap, these Scottish memberships don't … Please be aware that whilst cheap, these Scottish memberships don't contribute a penny to the upkeep of the NT of England and Wales properties. Each time a valid NT memership is scanned at a property they receive a percentage of the admission fee back from the head office, which goes towards maintaining the building, paying staff and covering volunteering costs. Whereas they receive exactly 0% from anyone scanning these Scottish passes. The upkeep of the houses is phenomenal, and whilst you save a few quid buying these cheaper passes, the house is loosing valuable revenue from scanning valid BRritish NT members. Please help support their valuable work in maintaining our heritage and don't buy these.



The site nearest to us has a good sized lake to walk round but no "properties" to look at, and you have to pay to enter the walled garden and a mortgage to buy drinks!! I begrudged paying £6 parking for that each time so bought a single annual pass (to get free parking). Now they've changed it to £6 per guest!!! I'm certainly not paying £18 for a 2hr walk around a sodding stagnant lake heritage or no heritage!!
Pay towards the ENT. Scottish have had enough already at our expense.
National Trust have very dodgy sales systems. Went to a property in Somerset (Montacute House) last year and they wanted to charge us the full £12.60 each which includes gift aid. When we queried it, they said very loudly 'Oh, you don't want to pay the gift aid as well then?' 'It all goes towards upkeep of the house!' Hello! That's what I thought the normal admission price was for! There were no notices of prices at all and luckily we had looked online and saw that the 'normal' price was £11.40 so we told them that. It was embarrassing to be 'shamed' in front of other customers just because we wanted to pay the supposedly 'normal' price. I assume the staff have been instructed to do this, but it is awful and made us feel mean, seems very sharp practice to me.
Quote from Winchman:
"I would agree but remember the CEO is happy to take a £180k salary(from her £140k civil service pay with gold plated pension) whilst employing many, many volunteers who have to pay their own fuel to get to work.
http://www.nationaltrustannualreport.org.uk/investing-in-people/
They talk about rewarding staff, yet they seek out volunteers so they don't have to pay a wage...
If you have saved a few quid on cheaper membership, slip a tip in the jar on the way out for the room guides and other volunteers."


Spot on. Whilst I don't support people cheating the NT out of entrance fees, through inappropriate use of concession cards; I DO think that the NT has lost the plot regarding what they are doing, and for whom. I abhor the huge salaries paid to the Snake Oil execs who now run the organisation. They are focussing on all the wrong things: attracting volume rather than quality, channeling people into eating cake and fairground attraction viewing, rather than concentrating on culture. Worst of all, they definitely, definitely DO exploit the goodwill of staff, both paid and unpaid, to destruction! The organisation is a travesty of what it once was.
Jules_HT

Yes go on; we'll pay for the upkeep of the properties whilst you guys … Yes go on; we'll pay for the upkeep of the properties whilst you guys (especially NZ "members") use deception and a loop-hole to enjoy at our expense.


As a Heritage New Zealand member, please explain to me the loopholes and methods of deception I used when I joined.
Sam_Crow

Pay towards the ENT. Scottish have had enough already at our expense.



Grow up.
grahamc2003

The parking is the main drawback, although i'm not sure if the car parks … The parking is the main drawback, although i'm not sure if the car parks are monitored or not. We had the Scottish membership for a year, parked at all the places we visited, and had no comeback at all. When showing the Scottish tickets we've never had any remarks at all.Remember the NT charges massive amounts for parking, even for NT members, at a couple of places, including our local Wakehurst. (I know it's Kew really, but the effect is the same). £10 for a visit if you need more than an hour, which of course everyone does.Don't feel at all guilty 'depriving' NT of income. Although they are a charity, that is just a business construct. They aren't a charity in the sense of most understand it, i.e. helping the needy. They have the slickest lawyers very adept at evicting their tenants when they feel like it. At the other end of the scale you wouldn't get to live your final years in considerable luxury at a beautiful NT property with subsidised rent unless you were somewhat upper middle class.



I've studied and volunteered at Wakehurst place. The central reason why they started charging for parking on National Trust members is because it's abused by the public and they might get 100 NT entries and see practically no revenue. As a Kew garden member I get free parking there ...
markbarrett4

National Trust have very dodgy sales systems. Went to a property in … National Trust have very dodgy sales systems. Went to a property in Somerset (Montacute House) last year and they wanted to charge us the full £12.60 each which includes gift aid. When we queried it, they said very loudly 'Oh, you don't want to pay the gift aid as well then?' 'It all goes towards upkeep of the house!' Hello! That's what I thought the normal admission price was for! There were no notices of prices at all and luckily we had looked online and saw that the 'normal' price was £11.40 so we told them that. It was embarrassing to be 'shamed' in front of other customers just because we wanted to pay the supposedly 'normal' price. I assume the staff have been instructed to do this, but it is awful and made us feel mean, seems very sharp practice to me.



​on a side note explain to them well I don't earn enough to pay gift aid so I don't want get I trouble with the tax man trying chase me up.
Hope you all feel good about yourself ripping off a charity.

What's next stealing guide dogs from the blind?

Put morals before money and you might sleep at night.
newtreefinger

I've studied and volunteered at Wakehurst place. The central reason why … I've studied and volunteered at Wakehurst place. The central reason why they started charging for parking on National Trust members is because it's abused by the public and they might get 100 NT entries and see practically no revenue. As a Kew garden member I get free parking there ...



I don't see how you can say the parking is abused by the public. The parking is only of use to Wakehurst visitors, who will be almost wholly NT members. So your view is NT members visiting an NT property are abusing the parking if they park in the car park?

I understand the relationship between Kew and the NT is probably a little complex, but my view is it is NT who are being obstreperous and very mean (typical these days) by not arranging a fair and suitable payment to Kew for each visitor instead of forcing Kew to make ridiculous car parking charges. After 29 years of NT membership, i decided to join the scottish nt as a form of protest against NT's growing terrible money-grabbing behaviour, especially at my local Wakehurst.
jamgin

Hope you all feel good about yourself ripping off a charity.What's next … Hope you all feel good about yourself ripping off a charity.What's next stealing guide dogs from the blind?Put morals before money and you might sleep at night.



Oh please. What an inappropriate (and incorrect) analogy.

As some people have posted already, the NT are more than happy to cynically rip off the public whilst giving it the big 'we're a hard-up charideeee that relies on your money' schtick, exploiting their volunteers whilst the CEO takes home her massive salary.
jamgin

Hope you all feel good about yourself ripping off a charity.What's next … Hope you all feel good about yourself ripping off a charity.What's next stealing guide dogs from the blind?Put morals before money and you might sleep at night.


And they're under starter's orders in the Moral High Horse stakes
lju

National Trust England are also changing car parking shortly. This will … National Trust England are also changing car parking shortly. This will require the sticker in the window and also use of the membership card to get a parking ticket.



​I wish they would give 2 car stickers with our joint membership.
alex_dis

Oh please. What an inappropriate (and incorrect) analogy. As some people … Oh please. What an inappropriate (and incorrect) analogy. As some people have posted already, the NT are more than happy to cynically rip off the public whilst giving it the big 'we're a hard-up charideeee that relies on your money' schtick, exploiting their volunteers whilst the CEO takes home her massive salary.


Just because the NT charges for its car parks, admissions and food doesn't mean it's 'cynically ripping off the public' - where's the evidence for that sweeping generalisation? The D-G Helen Ghosh gets paid £183,960 pa - hardly a massive salary for the size of the organisation - and the volunteers give their time quite happily. Nobody forces them to do it.

If cheating a charity out of income it needs to preserve heritage assets is your bag, so be it - nothing said here is going to change that. But don't try to justify it with bogus arguments akin to a tax evader arguing that he doesn't like the way the NHS is run.
Newbold

Just because the NT charges for its car parks, admissions and food … Just because the NT charges for its car parks, admissions and food doesn't mean it's 'cynically ripping off the public' - where's the evidence for that sweeping generalisation? The D-G Helen Ghosh gets paid £183,960 pa - hardly a massive salary for the size of the organisation - and the volunteers give their time quite happily. Nobody forces them to do it.If cheating a charity out of income it needs to preserve heritage assets is your bag, so be it - nothing said here is going to change that. But don't try to justify it with bogus arguments akin to a tax evader arguing that he doesn't like the way the NHS is run.



Errr, where is the cheating? Nt and Scottish NT have reciporical arrangements to allow entry to their properties. There is no cheating, and it is reprehensible to accuse anyone of that. Any member of any of them has the priviledge of visiting the other. If you object to those arrangements, campaign with the NT for them to be stopped, instead of accusing innocent people as being on the same level as tax cheats.
ajsutton

Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if … Worth bearing in mind that the National Trust is a charity. Not sure if people would post deals about how to cheat other charities out of money!



NT has been abusing the name of charity for a long time, same as most of the exam boards. NT has loads of money even the story teller asking you to buy raffle tickets said so. It's like paying Camilla PB as Chancellor of a university .. The rich helping themselves.
Thanks OP, maybe some people have known about NT work arounds for some time but its new to me so thanks for sharing. People join this site every day so don;t criticise people for posting stuff that is new to them just because you have been here for years.
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