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Hopefully this item will be of use to those of us who have a hard time trying to breathe with a homemade face covering or who wear glasses & want to be able to see mist free.

Being an Asthmatic Glasses Wearing Wheelchair User, I found this to be handy & quite comfortable to wear when I had to go out.

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They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 masks, but after some research I realised that we don't generally sell those types of mask in the UK, or rather we probably do, but they're known as FFP3, not N95.

The masks of choice are usually the 3M brand, number 9332 IIRC. I bought a box of 10 of those back in January from Amazon and they cost me £70 - even back then prices were going up, well before the brown stuff hit the fan. I also bought 6 boxes of FFP3 masks from Toolstation, each containing 5 masks and they cost I think £20-£25 per box. I also tried to buy surgical masks, at £4.99 per box of 50, from a seller on Amazon. This was at the end of January and like I said, things were starting to go a bit strange then as my order was cancelled and by that time, the same boxes of 50 were being sold for £50 or more. My seller jacked up the price too, for the very same masks he said he didn't have.......................................

Guidance has changed a lot about face masks. In the early days surgical masks were thought to be useful, now they're generally considered marginally better than a piece of cloth, if at all. The N95/FFP3 masks are considered to be about your best bet (aside from proper filter based respirators that cost upwards of £100 and more), but are hard to come by. They are believed to be good enough to both block out the virus, and from you passing it on - they apparently do have a filter system. However, the thing that was said right from the start is that the virus/moisture particles (for want of a better term) are so small that virtually no mask will stop them, so basically the jury is out as to whether masks ARE effective and if so, to what degree.

So all this being said, these FFP2 masks are better than surgical masks, but not as good as FFP3, which in themselves are not necessarily that effective. However, ANY mask is better than none! The essential thing is that you DON'T pay any attention to whatever the government say - they are beyond useless. Just use your own common sense!

Yes I was well prepared and so I make no apologies whatsoever for what I bought as a result of being prepared.
I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.
Surely if the purpose of a mask is to protect others not the user then a valved mask is useless. Exhaled air passes through the valve rather than filtered.
Edited by: "ScubaDudes" 15th Jun
KB9015/06/2020 16:00

Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the …Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the Corona-Virus pandemic.It's time to make money.


Or maybe their supplier is making the killing knowing they can sell them 10 times over across the planet?
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In my opinion, while a valved mask is better than none at all it is more likely to let the microbial Covid germs in and out.
Surely if the purpose of a mask is to protect others not the user then a valved mask is useless. Exhaled air passes through the valve rather than filtered.
Edited by: "ScubaDudes" 15th Jun
What is the difference between an FFP1, FFP2 and an FFP3 dust respirator?
Simply, an FFP3 will offer greater protection than FFP2 and FFP1. An FFP1 has an Assigned Protection Factor (APF) of 4, FFP2 has an APF of 10 and an FFP3 has an APF of 20.

Selection of the most appropriate respirator depends on the contaminant and Occupational Exposure Level (OEL) and guidance should always be sought. You can use our Respirator Selector Guide for initial guidance but please contact us direct for more specific information.

/copy n pasted i'm no expert
Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the Corona-Virus pandemic.
It's time to make money.
KB9015/06/2020 16:00

Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the …Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the Corona-Virus pandemic.It's time to make money.


I've reported many large organisations trying to make some extra buck! but the government wont pursue them. this will all be forgotten about eventually.
KB9015/06/2020 16:00

Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the …Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the Corona-Virus pandemic.It's time to make money.


This is my mask of choice - I'm a handyman. Checking through my old Screwfix orders and I can see that the price has varied: May 2019 - 1.99, August 2018 - 2.99
KB9015/06/2020 16:00

Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the …Screwfix has inflated the price as these masks were cheaper before the Corona-Virus pandemic.It's time to make money.


Or maybe their supplier is making the killing knowing they can sell them 10 times over across the planet?
I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.
RoosterNo115/06/2020 16:14

I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop …I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.


Agreed. And then unfortunately genuine tradesmen are being put at risk when they need a dust mask for a hazardous job....
Diy er here.

Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and crack-filler to prepare for painting please?

Thanks
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For anyone with glasses having misting up problems form home made masks - the metal (nose) strips that you can see here web.makespace.org/mask/ really help.

The link is where you can order a free kit too which includes 5 strips.
They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 masks, but after some research I realised that we don't generally sell those types of mask in the UK, or rather we probably do, but they're known as FFP3, not N95.

The masks of choice are usually the 3M brand, number 9332 IIRC. I bought a box of 10 of those back in January from Amazon and they cost me £70 - even back then prices were going up, well before the brown stuff hit the fan. I also bought 6 boxes of FFP3 masks from Toolstation, each containing 5 masks and they cost I think £20-£25 per box. I also tried to buy surgical masks, at £4.99 per box of 50, from a seller on Amazon. This was at the end of January and like I said, things were starting to go a bit strange then as my order was cancelled and by that time, the same boxes of 50 were being sold for £50 or more. My seller jacked up the price too, for the very same masks he said he didn't have.......................................

Guidance has changed a lot about face masks. In the early days surgical masks were thought to be useful, now they're generally considered marginally better than a piece of cloth, if at all. The N95/FFP3 masks are considered to be about your best bet (aside from proper filter based respirators that cost upwards of £100 and more), but are hard to come by. They are believed to be good enough to both block out the virus, and from you passing it on - they apparently do have a filter system. However, the thing that was said right from the start is that the virus/moisture particles (for want of a better term) are so small that virtually no mask will stop them, so basically the jury is out as to whether masks ARE effective and if so, to what degree.

So all this being said, these FFP2 masks are better than surgical masks, but not as good as FFP3, which in themselves are not necessarily that effective. However, ANY mask is better than none! The essential thing is that you DON'T pay any attention to whatever the government say - they are beyond useless. Just use your own common sense!

Yes I was well prepared and so I make no apologies whatsoever for what I bought as a result of being prepared.
King_Homer15/06/2020 17:13

They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 …They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 masks, but after some research I realised that we don't generally sell those types of mask in the UK, or rather we probably do, but they're known as FFP3, not N95. The masks of choice are usually the 3M brand, number 9332 IIRC. I bought a box of 10 of those back in January from Amazon and they cost me £70 - even back then prices were going up, well before the brown stuff hit the fan. I also bought 6 boxes of FFP3 masks from Toolstation, each containing 5 masks and they cost I think £20-£25 per box. I also tried to buy surgical masks, at £4.99 per box of 50, from a seller on Amazon. This was at the end of January and like I said, things were starting to go a bit strange then as my order was cancelled and by that time, the same boxes of 50 were being sold for £50 or more. My seller jacked up the price too, for the very same masks he said he didn't have.......................................Guidance has changed a lot about face masks. In the early days surgical masks were thought to be useful, now they're generally considered marginally better than a piece of cloth, if at all. The N95/FFP3 masks are considered to be about your best bet (aside from proper filter based respirators that cost upwards of £100 and more), but are hard to come by. They are believed to be good enough to both block out the virus, and from you passing it on - they apparently do have a filter system. However, the thing that was said right from the start is that the virus/moisture particles (for want of a better term) are so small that virtually no mask will stop them, so basically the jury is out as to whether masks ARE effective and if so, to what degree.So all this being said, these FFP2 masks are better than surgical masks, but not as good as FFP3, which in themselves are not necessarily that effective. However, ANY mask is better than none! The essential thing is that you DON'T pay any attention to whatever the government say - they are beyond useless. Just use your own common sense!Yes I was well prepared and so I make no apologies whatsoever for what I bought as a result of being prepared.


Better still, British common sense
Stay alert...
RoosterNo115/06/2020 16:14

I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop …I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.


A valved mask helps ptotect the warer as you inhale via the value.

Doubt the value let's out much of a stream.
tas_shah15/06/2020 17:31

Better still, British common sense Stay alert...


Stay alert one of the most useless guidance phrases ever; stay safe would have been much better.
Edited by: "afroylnt" 15th Jun
£3 for one disposable mask - thieves
Zaphod9915/06/2020 17:48

£3 for one disposable mask - thieves


This is the normal price ! Try and find this valved mask cheaper elsewhere ???
Zaphod9915/06/2020 17:48

£3 for one disposable mask - thieves



no reason you need to dispose of it; buy 4 and use on rotation basis - virus can only survive for up to 3 days on surfaces but would make they are stored when not being used in a well ventiliated place
afroylnt15/06/2020 17:33

A valved mask helps ptotect the warer as you inhale via the value.Doubt …A valved mask helps ptotect the warer as you inhale via the value.Doubt the value let's out much of a stream.


The valve is one way breath exit, you don't breathe in through the valve, you're still breathing through the fabric which is supposed to catch droplets. But a double layer home made mask with a replaceable inner layer, like coffee filter paper, will catch droplets too and you wash/iron and reuse, and cheaper to make 3 or 4 and rotate use. I have asthma/lung problems, and wear glasses, have a box of 3m ffp2's I use sparingy, but wear a homemade mask for general outdoor use.
mcek15/06/2020 18:24

The valve is one way breath exit, you don't breathe in through the valve, …The valve is one way breath exit, you don't breathe in through the valve, you're still breathing through the fabric which is supposed to catch droplets. But a double layer home made mask with a replaceable inner layer, like coffee filter paper, will catch droplets too and you wash/iron and reuse, and cheaper to make 3 or 4 and rotate use. I have asthma/lung problems, and wear glasses, have a box of 3m ffp2's I use sparingy, but wear a homemade mask for general outdoor use.



Fair point.
MadeDixonsCry15/06/2020 16:32

Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and …Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and crack-filler to prepare for painting please? Thanks


You should opt for a FFP3 filter as that will block out the fine particles created by sanding.
Ordered thank you
afroylnt15/06/2020 18:19

no reason you need to dispose of it; buy 4 and use on rotation basis - …no reason you need to dispose of it; buy 4 and use on rotation basis - virus can only survive for up to 3 days on surfaces but would make they are stored when not being used in a well ventiliated place


supposedly, the filter fabric relies on static to pick up particles that physically fit through the filter hole. This starts to dissipate when you open the plastic wrapper
stoufer_the_cat15/06/2020 20:01

supposedly, the filter fabric relies on static to pick up particles that …supposedly, the filter fabric relies on static to pick up particles that physically fit through the filter hole. This starts to dissipate when you open the plastic wrapper


Rub a balloon on your jumper and hold it next to the mask. It will recharge the static.

Edit- /s
Edited by: "gsk" 15th Jun
MadeDixonsCry15/06/2020 16:32

Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and …Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and crack-filler to prepare for painting please? Thanks


Fellow diyer. Off topic..but. I just filled in my walls with one fill polyfilla and ot hasnt hardened properly. I can stick my fingernails right in. What did you use and did you fair any better? Cheers!
RoosterNo115/06/2020 16:14

I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop …I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.


I use these and they are to stop dust particles etc entering your lungs while working....not the spread of your exhaled air..
Mr.Mac15/06/2020 21:52

I use these and they are to stop dust particles etc entering your lungs …I use these and they are to stop dust particles etc entering your lungs while working....not the spread of your exhaled air..


Exactly....
crap_I_dont_really_need15/06/2020 21:32

Fellow diyer. Off topic..but. I just filled in my walls with one fill …Fellow diyer. Off topic..but. I just filled in my walls with one fill polyfilla and ot hasnt hardened properly. I can stick my fingernails right in. What did you use and did you fair any better? Cheers!


Sorry, you've obviously had more DIY experience than me. Hopefully someone else can answer...and I can use the info in future!
Thanks @welshman1982 glad you found something to suit you. Any thoughts on the size and fit? I'm a woman with a smaller face than a lot of these masks seem to be designed for.
I find a lot of moulded masks seem to be quite large. Without going into whether or not this is suitable or sufficient for coronavirus (though surely it's still better than a paper mask or pair of pants around your face) can it be adjusted at all such as around the bridge of the nose, or is it rather boxy? Having gaps if it's big is my concern with this type.
Zaphod9915/06/2020 17:48

£3 for one disposable mask - thieves



check ebay, much cheaper NOT.
Is it mist free
RoosterNo115/06/2020 16:14

I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop …I'm with Scubadudes here... The whole point of wearing a mask is to stop YOUR bugs from spreading... A valved mask defeats this, and probably makes matters worse by providing a concentrated jet which carries it further.


Fair enough however most of #@##@# in my area don't wear the masks, yesterday I passed by someone who was smoking, i inhaled a little hope he didn't have the corona
ScubaDudes15/06/2020 15:45

Surely if the purpose of a mask is to protect others not the user then a …Surely if the purpose of a mask is to protect others not the user then a valved mask is useless. Exhaled air passes through the valve rather than filtered.


Only out
At least Screwfix have one that the public can buy now in stock,I have been checking Screwfix for the last few months and this is the first one I have seen in stock.
Somebody should have been instructed to make these to cover the public demand,so a steady supply is available at an affordable price
Edited by: "Maxim7750" 16th Jun
crap_I_dont_really_need15/06/2020 21:32

Fellow diyer. Off topic..but. I just filled in my walls with one fill …Fellow diyer. Off topic..but. I just filled in my walls with one fill polyfilla and ot hasnt hardened properly. I can stick my fingernails right in. What did you use and did you fair any better? Cheers!


You probably went too deep. With a lot of the DIY fillers you need to do them in thin ish layers, they are water based and the water needs to escape.
You'll probably find if you leave it it will be Ok with time don't paint over it till dry though.
MadeDixonsCry15/06/2020 16:32

Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and …Diy er here.Is this the mask I should buy when sanding walls and crack-filler to prepare for painting please? Thanks


I would recommend a proper respirator - the Force 8 JSP one I have that takes the P3 filters bolted onto the side is amazing. It's comfortable to wear when properly fitted which is really important, and is easy to take apart and wash in warm soapy water. You can get different filters for it to suit the job you are doing (as there is no one filter that is best for every job):

jspsafety.com/link/en/respiratory-protection/force-8-half-masks-and-filters/c/?parm=NOM031%20%20%20%20%20aebb&cat=JSP

I don't know if the price has been jacked up due to COVID-19, but I haven't seen anyone out wearing one of these so perhaps not?

If affordable, go for a Force 8 (or Force 10 if you prefer a full face mask) - avoiding lung damage and difficulty breathing in your later years (and not having to faff with disposable masks) is worth it. I've had the same mask for 8 years and it's in as good condition as it was the day I bought it, just had to buy a new filter every now and again.
Edited by: "arCuThEDOWDr" 16th Jun
King_Homer15/06/2020 17:13

They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 …They recommend FFP3 masks - when all this started, everybody was after N95 masks, but after some research I realised that we don't generally sell those types of mask in the UK, or rather we probably do, but they're known as FFP3, not N95. The masks of choice are usually the 3M brand, number 9332 IIRC. I bought a box of 10 of those back in January from Amazon and they cost me £70 - even back then prices were going up, well before the brown stuff hit the fan. I also bought 6 boxes of FFP3 masks from Toolstation, each containing 5 masks and they cost I think £20-£25 per box. I also tried to buy surgical masks, at £4.99 per box of 50, from a seller on Amazon. This was at the end of January and like I said, things were starting to go a bit strange then as my order was cancelled and by that time, the same boxes of 50 were being sold for £50 or more. My seller jacked up the price too, for the very same masks he said he didn't have.......................................Guidance has changed a lot about face masks. In the early days surgical masks were thought to be useful, now they're generally considered marginally better than a piece of cloth, if at all. The N95/FFP3 masks are considered to be about your best bet (aside from proper filter based respirators that cost upwards of £100 and more), but are hard to come by. They are believed to be good enough to both block out the virus, and from you passing it on - they apparently do have a filter system. However, the thing that was said right from the start is that the virus/moisture particles (for want of a better term) are so small that virtually no mask will stop them, so basically the jury is out as to whether masks ARE effective and if so, to what degree.So all this being said, these FFP2 masks are better than surgical masks, but not as good as FFP3, which in themselves are not necessarily that effective. However, ANY mask is better than none! The essential thing is that you DON'T pay any attention to whatever the government say - they are beyond useless. Just use your own common sense!Yes I was well prepared and so I make no apologies whatsoever for what I bought as a result of being prepared.


N95, KN95 are ffp2 spec. ( The only difference is the origin of manufacture. The spec is the same worldwide)

Ffp3 are higher protective again.

However without proper face-fitting and testing, ffp3 are probably as protective as ffp2
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Same masks i had purchased from Screwfix back in March
This seems quite pricey for a P2 mask. Certainly not a good deal, but if you need one then no doubt people will pay.
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