Kidde Carbon Monoxide Detector Twin Pack £19.99 @ Argos (possible 8% quidco & 7.5% TCB)
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Kidde Carbon Monoxide Detector Twin Pack £19.99 @ Argos (possible 8% quidco & 7.5% TCB)

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Found 29th Mar 2017
moving to a new house with an old back boiler so looking for 4 carbon monoxide detectors and this seems to be the best price for a reputable brand
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That seems a fairly decent price. Any idea if they come with batteries?
According to the 'Questions & Answers' on the Argos page they do come with batteries HTH?
3guesses

That seems a fairly decent price. Any idea if they come with batteries?


Yep - says so in the specs below the item
Get it for £18 .Ebay Argos and pick up today.Use code at front page of Ebay.
Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me feel nauseous and dizzy.
sJohnson23

Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me … Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me feel nauseous and dizzy.


Must work well then!
Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? All-electric flat dweller here that was eyeing a nest smoke + carbon monoxide smart detector but if it's just being a smoke alarm I could just get newer/well designed smoke alarms and that'd do.
Think I paid £14 for a Pifco one with digital readout. Sat it in cupboard with my boiler and was still reading 0ppm.
Started car up and placed it next to exhaust and it slowly did start to rise but the neighbours were looking at me like some kind of idiot. I'm still nervous as to whether it's working properly or not. I would have thought the alarm and levels should react far quicker in a minute or so, maybe I should just buy these in case.
CampGareth

Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? … Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? All-electric flat dweller here that was eyeing a nest smoke + carbon monoxide smart detector but if it's just being a smoke alarm I could just get newer/well designed smoke alarms and that'd do.


It is possible to die from carbon monoxide poisoning from a neighbour's property:
See this article


Are these supposed to be placed at ground level? Ili bought one of those combo fire alarm/monoxide ones and it says to place it on the ceiling.

Coming from abroad we all have monoxide detectors at ground​ level as that's where it's likely to build up as it's heavier than the air.
Carbon monoxide slightly lighter than air so the normal place is on the wall higher than doors and windows.
LPG gas is heavier than air so an LPG alarm would be at floor level.
umirza85

Are these supposed to be placed at ground level? Ili bought one of those … Are these supposed to be placed at ground level? Ili bought one of those combo fire alarm/monoxide ones and it says to place it on the ceiling. Coming from abroad we all have monoxide detectors at ground​ level as that's where it's likely to build up as it's heavier than the air.


The instructions say no higher than one meter from the floor. Can also be left on a table.
jjBlinky

The instructions say no higher than one meter from the floor. Can also be … The instructions say no higher than one meter from the floor. Can also be left on a table.


Thanks!
CampGareth

Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? … Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? All-electric flat dweller here that was eyeing a nest smoke + carbon monoxide smart detector but if it's just being a smoke alarm I could just get newer/well designed smoke alarms and that'd do.


If you have no gas, coal, wood burning or similar appliances that burn fuel then you don't require a CO alarm. Don't forget that gas cookers can give out CO so if you have a hob or oven that's gas, you should have one.
Smoking
Atomic weight CO = 28
Atomic weight N2 = 28

Dinitrogen is over 70% of air, so CO is pretty much the same weight and won't sink or rise. I would be inclined to put the monitor near the device that potentially could be a CO emitter = dodgy boiler or anything that can burn a fuel incompletely like a wood burning stove or coal fire with an inadequate supply of oxygen like a blocked chimney.

Needless to say, no BBQs indoors.
Heat.
saintagnes

Atomic weight CO = 28Atomic weight N2 = 28Dinitrogen is over 70% of air, … Atomic weight CO = 28Atomic weight N2 = 28Dinitrogen is over 70% of air, so CO is pretty much the same weight and won't sink or rise. I would be inclined to put the monitor near the device that potentially could be a CO emitter = dodgy boiler or anything that can burn a fuel incompletely like a wood burning stove or coal fire with an inadequate supply of oxygen like a blocked chimney.Needless to say, no BBQs indoors.



You're correct.

Shouldn't be fitted near the floor or above the height of an openable window. An alarm should be fitted within 1-3m from appliance. IIRC, should be no less than 150mm from the ceiling too.

But always follow manufactures instructions first.
3guesses

That seems a fairly decent price. Any idea if they come with batteries?


Yes they come with batteries
liamf12

If you have no gas, coal, wood burning or similar appliances that burn … If you have no gas, coal, wood burning or similar appliances that burn fuel then you don't require a CO alarm. Don't forget that gas cookers can give out CO so if you have a hob or oven that's gas, you should have one.



Unless you live next door to a volcano.
sJohnson23

Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me … Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me feel nauseous and dizzy.



Hmmm... sounds like carbon monoxide poisoning to me...
saintagnes

Atomic weight CO = 28Atomic weight N2 = 28Dinitrogen is over 70% of air, … Atomic weight CO = 28Atomic weight N2 = 28Dinitrogen is over 70% of air, so CO is pretty much the same weight and won't sink or rise. I would be inclined to put the monitor near the device that potentially could be a CO emitter = dodgy boiler or anything that can burn a fuel incompletely like a wood burning stove or coal fire with an inadequate supply of oxygen like a blocked chimney.Needless to say, no BBQs indoors.


However, it doesn't work that way because O2 has an approximate weight of 32, therefore by your reasoning this should sink so we should be struggling to breathe at normal height in a room and would have to crawl around to breath!

Edited by: "jasee" 30th Mar 2017
monitor1

Get it for £18 .Ebay Argos and pick up today.Use code at front page of … Get it for £18 .Ebay Argos and pick up today.Use code at front page of Ebay.


Nice idea but £30 minimum spend
jesteroo

According to the 'Questions & Answers' on the Argos page they do come … According to the 'Questions & Answers' on the Argos page they do come with batteries HTH?


mrew42

Yep - says so in the specs below the item


Yes - they have lithium batteries inside them. However, I would never buy these plug-in carbon monoxide units from Kidde, again. Firstly, lithium batteries last 'about' 10 years - but there's no way of knowing how old the unit is before they sell it to you, and the unit is totally sealed so you can't get at the battery. I had mine for only about 4 years before the battery failed - which made it sound the alarm continuously, there was no way of turning it off! Unplugging it didn't work, it just kept beeping. Had to smash the b****y thing to get it to shut up! Awful product.
Great price I saw near from me, also good in reviews. Must take it. Thanks.
mandy.miller

Yes - they have lithium batteries inside them. However, I would never … Yes - they have lithium batteries inside them. However, I would never buy these plug-in carbon monoxide units from Kidde, again. Firstly, lithium batteries last 'about' 10 years - but there's no way of knowing how old the unit is before they sell it to you, and the unit is totally sealed so you can't get at the battery. I had mine for only about 4 years before the battery failed - which made it sound the alarm continuously, there was no way of turning it off! Unplugging it didn't work, it just kept beeping. Had to smash the b****y thing to get it to shut up! Awful product.



Must be a different model
These run on 3xAA batteries
mrew42

Must be a different modelThese run on 3xAA batteries



Thanks all, useful information. Glad I asked the question now 8-)
mandy.miller

Yes - they have lithium batteries inside them. However, I would never … Yes - they have lithium batteries inside them. However, I would never buy these plug-in carbon monoxide units from Kidde, again. Firstly, lithium batteries last 'about' 10 years - but there's no way of knowing how old the unit is before they sell it to you, and the unit is totally sealed so you can't get at the battery. I had mine for only about 4 years before the battery failed - which made it sound the alarm continuously, there was no way of turning it off! Unplugging it didn't work, it just kept beeping. Had to smash the b****y thing to get it to shut up! Awful product.



Just picked them up and can confirm there are batteries that come with it.
Edited by: "zippyantsuk" 30th Mar 2017
jesteroo

According to the 'Questions & Answers' on the Argos page they do come … According to the 'Questions & Answers' on the Argos page they do come with batteries HTH?


I don't understand the question.
3guesses

Unless you live next door to a volcano.


In which case a lava detector might be more useful..
CampGareth

Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? … Any point getting these if you've got no gas systems in your home? All-electric flat dweller here that was eyeing a nest smoke + carbon monoxide smart detector but if it's just being a smoke alarm I could just get newer/well designed smoke alarms and that'd do.



There's still a case, perhaps. The issue with CO is that you won't know it's in the air because you can't smell or see it. If you decide to light a barbecue indoors you could kill yourself because of the CO released. There are warnings on the bag usually and it's unlikely that you'd ever do it but people do stupid things all the time, so perhaps a CO monitor will save you from yourselves.
I would not recommend these alarms. See many many that are faulty. Hence maybe the price.
I would not recommend these alarms. See many many that are faulty. Hence maybe the price.
I would not recommend these alarms. See many many that are faulty. Hence maybe the price.
DATE OF MANUFACTURE 2012 OVER 5 YEARS AGO , IF THEY COME WITH
BATTERY WHAT IS THEIR EXPIRY DATE ??
YES £19.99 DOES SEEM CHEAP BUT IS YOU LIFE WORTH THE SAVING????
jefaz

I would not recommend these alarms. See many many that are faulty. Hence … I would not recommend these alarms. See many many that are faulty. Hence maybe the price.



Are you triple sure?
Haha. It would seem so!
sJohnson23

Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me … Don't recommend these. The alarm kept going off and the noise made me feel nauseous and dizzy.


Perhaps you need to get your appliances checked. I have used these for years and now bought replacements.
sayitasitis

Perhaps you need to get your appliances checked. I have used these for … Perhaps you need to get your appliances checked. I have used these for years and now bought replacements.



methinks some people didn't get the joke
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