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Kingdian 2TB SATA SSD with 3D TLC NAND & DRAM Cache £152.13 @ AliExpress KingDian official store
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Kingdian 2TB SATA SSD with 3D TLC NAND & DRAM Cache £152.13 @ AliExpress KingDian official store

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Posted 13th JunShipping from China
I've been using one of these for a few days, off the recommendation of another HUKD'er and I have to say I'm very impressed for the money so far.

My context is that I already had a 1TB NVME but found myself constantly very low on space so wanted to add some extra storage. I've moved my games over to it, freeing up my NVME for the the apps that'll see the most benefit and also not hamper it's performance from being almost nearly full.


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I don't know if these stats are any good or if I was running CrystalDiskMark properly, my daughter was playing VR Minecraft while I did this if that makes any difference. My games copied over and loaded fast for sure.

"But Kingdian are a no name knock off brand!"


That doesn't seem to be the case in all honesty. Lots of customers with reviews, they sell on Amazon, are using a popular controller (S280), and this is their official Aliexpress store.So maybe not well known in the UK, but certainly popular elsewhere.

"Good luck with the warranty & returning to China!"

Well that is an inherent risk with ordering anything from Aliexpress in a China warehouse I'm sure. I can't speak for how Kingdian handle their international warranties and hopefully I won't have to. In this instance, I've taken the calculated risk based on the saving, that I won't be using it for mission critical data and the fact it has DRAM and seemingly decent NAND for the price.

"It'll take forever to arrive because of COVID"

Delivery was quick for me, under 6 days from ordering. Your mileage may vary.

"Cold, not an NVME."

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You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it for a few months or even better a year or two. There's absolutely no way I'd buy a 2tb drive from AliExpress when I can pay a few quid more and get a drive from a reliable brand like Crucial and from a trusted seller.
It's insane to buy this when better drives with warranties and actual resale value are mere pounds more, good luck flogging one of these off once your done with it, that's if it lasts that long.
Nope nope nope.

I bought a KingSpec NVMe from Ali just to see what it was like. It worked in my second slot for about 8 months before problems occured.

It didn't report errors, but was causing constant crashes. I checked SMART and all was fine, until I saw the power on hours still said 0... The drive was obviously faking it's SMART data.

Pulled it out my machine and no more crashes.

That was a 128gb I paid about £20 for, expecting it to be awful. Id have been pretty salty if it was £150 and I was actually storing important data on it.

Please spend the few quid more (literally) and get a name brand drive, you're just asking for trouble.
Rather buy this for an extra £7, did you consider this one?
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Rather buy this for an extra £7, did you consider this one?
Not bad scores but the only concern that I have is that the product may fail and returns are more difficult to achieve. Plus it is an unfamiliar brand name
DealsDen10113/06/2020 19:49

Rather buy this for an extra £7, did you consider this one?


Considered, but worse nand and no dram.
from what i can understand the flash and controller might not be the same as you think i would suggest checking here

mysku.ru/blo…tml

as it might use SMI2258 (with DRAM cache) or SMI2258XT SMI2259XT (both without DRAM cache)

someone also said it might use QLC flash due to the slow write speed


side note: crucial bx500 1/2tb both seem to use SMI2259XT (no DRAM cache) with QLC flash
Edited by: "freddy12" 13th Jun
Nope nope nope.

I bought a KingSpec NVMe from Ali just to see what it was like. It worked in my second slot for about 8 months before problems occured.

It didn't report errors, but was causing constant crashes. I checked SMART and all was fine, until I saw the power on hours still said 0... The drive was obviously faking it's SMART data.

Pulled it out my machine and no more crashes.

That was a 128gb I paid about £20 for, expecting it to be awful. Id have been pretty salty if it was £150 and I was actually storing important data on it.

Please spend the few quid more (literally) and get a name brand drive, you're just asking for trouble.
It's insane to buy this when better drives with warranties and actual resale value are mere pounds more, good luck flogging one of these off once your done with it, that's if it lasts that long.
Can buy the crucial bx500 2tb ssd on amazon for £159 delivered on prime with full warranty and everything. This from china is not a deal or a good buy
You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it for a few months or even better a year or two. There's absolutely no way I'd buy a 2tb drive from AliExpress when I can pay a few quid more and get a drive from a reliable brand like Crucial and from a trusted seller.
AliExpress should be banned from here. Imo.
For the sake of a few pounds just buy a recognised brand, unless you want to be get burned harder than pyromaniac in an orgy.
MUFCristiano13/06/2020 20:40

AliExpress should be banned from here. Imo.


Nah, you can get pretty good deals on some phones on AliExpress
wedders13/06/2020 20:18

Nope nope nope.I bought a KingSpec NVMe from Ali just to see what it was …Nope nope nope.I bought a KingSpec NVMe from Ali just to see what it was like. It worked in my second slot for about 8 months before problems occured.It didn't report errors, but was causing constant crashes. I checked SMART and all was fine, until I saw the power on hours still said 0... The drive was obviously faking it's SMART data.Pulled it out my machine and no more crashes.That was a 128gb I paid about £20 for, expecting it to be awful. Id have been pretty salty if it was £150 and I was actually storing important data on it.Please spend the few quid more (literally) and get a name brand drive, you're just asking for trouble.


I totally understand your point, but on the flip side I've had OCZ and Crucial drives die on me. As I say not a name brand over here but still seems to be a valid brand in it's home country.

I've gone in on this one with both eyes open.

Haircut_10013/06/2020 20:23

You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it …You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it for a few months or even better a year or two. There's absolutely no way I'd buy a 2tb drive from AliExpress when I can pay a few quid more and get a drive from a reliable brand like Crucial and from a trusted seller.


Anecdotally there are plenty of people saying they've had similar drives (all be it smaller size) from this brand run fine for years. I can't see any data to say they fail more often than other brands.

freddy1213/06/2020 20:10

from what i can understand the flash and controller might not be the same …from what i can understand the flash and controller might not be the same as you think i would suggest checking here https://mysku.ru/blog/aliexpress/80279.htmlas it might use SMI2258 (with DRAM cache) or SMI2258XT SMI2259XT (both without DRAM cache)someone also said it might use QLC flash due to the slow write speedside note: crucial bx500 1/2tb both seem to use SMI2259XT (no DRAM cache) with QLC flash


This is really interesting, thanks.

MUFCristiano13/06/2020 20:40

AliExpress should be banned from here. Imo.



I don't mean to be argumentative, but there are legitimate brands that sell on Ali and offer good value. Whether or not this deal falls under that.
Edited by: "z0mbi3" 14th Jun
Haircut_10013/06/2020 20:23

You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it …You've been using it for a few days? Come back when you've been using it for a few months or even better a year or two. There's absolutely no way I'd buy a 2tb drive from AliExpress when I can pay a few quid more and get a drive from a reliable brand like Crucial and from a trusted seller.


Lol, remember them Samsung who's 850s and how reliable that tip names brand was. So reliable they released a box to cripple and slow down the drive. Once bitten twice shy. I have a1tb King Don drive from Ali express as my game drive for just under a year and its rock solid still. So yeah in here after a year.
The amount of people who purchase PC parts from them who then come to us on other forums for help and assistance, is extreme high numbers, - the sites good for cheap nov items,..... but at this price league n item of type. Na best avoid,

but i hope im wrong for your sake.
Edited by: "sarden84" 14th Jun
sarden8414/06/2020 10:14

The amount of people who purchase PC parts from them who then come to us …The amount of people who purchase PC parts from them who then come to us on other forums for help and assistance, is extreme high numbers, - the sites good for cheap nov items,..... but at this price league n item of type. Na best avoid,but i hope im wrong for your sake.


I would agree. A £5 mouse getting lost is fine but when you are ordering a £150 ssd then that's trouble when you lose it.

But, AliExpress sell cheap PC parts for very budget builds (old xeons).
sarden8414/06/2020 10:14

The amount of people who purchase PC parts from them who then come to us …The amount of people who purchase PC parts from them who then come to us on other forums for help and assistance, is extreme high numbers, - the sites good for cheap nov items,..... but at this price league n item of type. Na best avoid,but i hope im wrong for your sake.


In my situation, this is something I'd had eyed for awhile and wanted to try out. Assuming controller is as advertised then the specs on this are substantially better value than the currently popular Crucial BX for example.

To blanket Aliexpress with a statement like yours is just disingenuous though. You have official stores from recognised brands like Lenovo on there. It's up to the individual to do their research and check if they are buying something reliable or not.

The problem is not the store, but the items people buy. Just the same with Amazon, though returns are easier there obviously. Just because something is sold on Aliexpress does not automatically make it problematic.

I have had crucial and ocz drives fail on me, purchased from Amazon. I have bought motherboards and ram that have had issues and had to go back. That does not inherently make everything from Amazon a no go purchase.

Yes you are largely safe if you stick to popular brands, but then you are inherently going to miss out on other opportunities.
had a couple of kingdian drives for several years. dont notice any difference with them to my samsung.

these specs are great for the price, perfect for a gaming drive.
Edited by: "retrend" 14th Jun
BUT sometimes ali (+others) sell things that simply not available in the west .. or are 60% more.
"tb for this price is good ... Probably would go for the AMZ just for the piece of mind.
And what a pieece it is
At this pice its reached a Tiipping point , and become a tenable buy (lokdown fever)
Edited by: "GwanGy" 14th Jun
This is good for nas?
sslesar14/06/2020 12:59

This is good for nas?


SSDs are generally wasted on a NAS. What's your use case?
Premium SATA SSDs have a metal case, which the Kingdian has. Budget SSDs, like the Crucial bx500, use a plastic case with no cooling.

One HUKDer here bought two Crucial bx500's that both failed. No one makes 100% reliable SSDs.

Once the bx500 runs out of SLC cache it will slow to a crawl. On the other hand the Kingdian doesn't mind how full it is.

The £159 price of the 2Tb bx500 is a very recent change that no one could have predicted. They weren't normally that price and maybe the price will shoot up again. The price of the 2Tb Kingdian, however, has been just that for quite some time. It seems that the Chinese SSDs are less subject to price hikes.

One person had a problem with his mx500. Crucial told him that unplugging the SATA cable and plugging it back in normally does the trick. It doesn't inspire you with confidence when they reply like that.

I've heard of aliexpress refunding buyers when their product didn't turn up. It they get a bad reputation then people will stop buying from them.

Buyers can always take up insurance using a third party, no matter who makes the SSD. These can also be bought after a purchase, I think up to one month.

I have my Linux operating system cloned, with the cloned image also backup up to another hard drive and uploaded online. The same with the SSD's partition table. If my operating system's SSD fails I just reclone it onto a new one. The SSD make becomes much less important.

I avoid Amazon as they are a global corporation, much like its tiny brothers Google, Intel and Monsanto and minute sisters Uber, Starbucks and McDonalds.
Edited by: "dacq" 14th Jun
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