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Kingston ValueRAM / KVR800D2S6/2G / 2GB / 800MHz / DDR2 / 200 pin SO-DIMM Laptop Memory - £17.99 Delivered @ Play
Kingston ValueRAM / KVR800D2S6/2G / 2GB / 800MHz / DDR2 / 200 pin SO-DIMM Laptop Memory - £17.99 Delivered @ Play

Kingston ValueRAM / KVR800D2S6/2G / 2GB / 800MHz / DDR2 / 200 pin SO-DIMM Laptop Memory - £17.99 Delivered @ Play

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* Storage Capacity: 2 GB
* Upgrade Type: Generic
* Type: DRAM
* Technology: DDR2 SDRAM
* Form Factor: SO-DIMM 200-pin
* Memory Speed: 800 MHz ( PC2-6400 )
* Latency Timings: CL5
* Data Integrity Check: Non-ECC
* RAM Features: Unbuffered
* Module Configuration: 256 x 64
* Supply Voltage: 1.8 V
* Lead Plating: Gold
* Compatible Slots: 1 x memory - SO-DIMM 200-pin
* Service & Support: Limited lifetime warranty ( Germany, Austria and France - 10 years )

Description says CL5 but product name describes a CL6 grade. Not bad but possibly very good deal.

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this price is sitting around ages... I am waiting for this to drop a bit further...

Original Poster

Prices can go up as well as down. It used to be that memory only got cheaper but then the Chinese were forced to inflate their currency to promote consumer spending and their is little sign of this new trend abating.

Would this work in Medion Alpha e1210 netbook? Anybody know? Would be grateful for advice - I still have the stock 1gb in mine.

Edit: I meant Medion Akoya e1210 not Alpha. Predictive text!!
Edited by: "SuperFlyBlues" 23rd Apr 2011

zaphodbb

It used to be that memory only got cheaper but then the Chinese were … It used to be that memory only got cheaper but then the Chinese were forced to inflate their currency to promote consumer spending and their is little sign of this new trend abating.


Memory has always gone up and down as it is a traded commodity like copper, wheat etc so pricing can and often does vary a lot when looked at over periods of 3, 6, 12 months or longer.

This is not CL5 it is CL6 as indeed typical for 800Mhz.

FEATURES:
Clock Cycle Time (tCK) CL=6 2.5ns (min.) / 8ns (max.)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 60ns (min.)
Refresh to Active/Refresh Command Time (tRFC) 127.5ns
Row Active Time (tRAS) 45ns (min.) / 70,000ns (max.)

Hey does any1 know where i can get:

2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 DDR2-667 RAM for Netbook for cheap??

Thanks

Kevlar Engineer

Hey does any1 know where i can get:2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 DDR2-667 RAM for … Hey does any1 know where i can get:2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 DDR2-667 RAM for Netbook for cheap??Thanks


This is compatible as it will automatically run at the lower speed.

Original Poster

SuperFlyBlues

Would this work in Medion Alpha e1210 netbook? Anybody know? Would be … Would this work in Medion Alpha e1210 netbook? Anybody know? Would be grateful for advice - I still have the stock 1gb in mine.



Yes, your's is a rebadged MSI Wind U100, and I think you meant Medion Akoya e1210, from Aldi I believe? Source

splender

This is not CL5 it is CL6 as indeed typical for 800Mhz.FEATURES:Clock … This is not CL5 it is CL6 as indeed typical for 800Mhz.FEATURES:Clock Cycle Time (tCK) CL=6 2.5ns (min.) / 8ns (max.)Row Cycle Time (tRC) 60ns (min.)Refresh to Active/Refresh Command Time (tRFC) 127.5nsRow Active Time (tRAS) 45ns (min.) / 70,000ns (max.)



I was merely restating what information the retailer provided, as I said the product number is as you say, but then it is misrepresented.

zaphodbb

Description says CL5 but product name describes a CL6 grade. Not bad but … Description says CL5 but product name describes a CL6 grade. Not bad but possibly very good deal.



Agharta

- Apr 22, 2011 17:45zaphodbbIt used to be that memory only got cheaper … - Apr 22, 2011 17:45zaphodbbIt used to be that memory only got cheaper but then the Chinese were forced to inflate their currency to promote consumer spending and their is little sign of this new trend abating.Memory has always gone up and down as it is a traded commodity like copper, wheat etc so pricing can and often does vary a lot when looked at over periods of 3, 6, 12 months or longer.



Not at all, Moore's (co-founder of Intel) law asserted prices halved every 12 months from the early 90's. Recently that plateaued to 18 months and now people seem to have forgotten it even existed.

Original Poster

Checked my spelling of Moore, here.

zaphodbb

Not at all, Moore's law asserted prices halved every 12 months from the … Not at all, Moore's law asserted prices halved every 12 months from the early 90's. Recently that plateaued to 18 months and now people seem to have forgotten it even existed.


Well Intel disagree with you as they say – Intel Quote:

“The number of transistors on a chip will double about every two years. Intel has kept that pace for over 40 years, providing more functions on a chip at significantly lower cost per function.”

I think you missed my important point in that RAM is traded as a commodity like oil so the cost of production is only one influence on the retail price.
The price of oil fluctuates mainly due to supply and demand which is impacted by political instabilities etc.
The same goes for RAM as supply and demand is the big issue with supply being affected by earthquakes and the like and demand by recessions etc.

Moore’s law applies at the cutting edge which is where Intel are but for RAM you can easily have the same product fabricated at the same node for 2 years so the manufacturing cost is not affected by Moore’s Law.

You can track the daily change in RAM pricing at dramexchange.

Original Poster

Moore’s law applies at the cutting edge which is where Intel are but for R … Moore’s law applies at the cutting edge which is where Intel are but for RAM you can easily have the same product fabricated at the same node for 2 years so the manufacturing cost is not affected by Moore’s Law.



At the start of the two years fabs are re-couping their outlay in plant so consumers subsidise the new technology through a premium on the RAM products. Once capital outlay is paid off the fabs can afford to sell stock more cheaply.

Hence the downward trend in prices.

My explanation of the far-east's economy is evidence for a slowing of the fall in RAM prices, and if inflation be taken into account, possibly a plateauing.

where Intel are but for RAM



Maybe Intel aren't best placed to talk about RAM since I've yet to find their brand on any.

Will this work on my Dell Vostro A840? I already have 1GB installed in one slot, and another slot is free?

Any other cheaper option?


Again you’ve missed the key element on what affects RAM pricing which is the fact that it is a traded commodity.
With traded commodities the market sets the price and not the manufacturers. This is why in recent years at times manufactures were selling RAM at close to and even below cost price which forced some into bankruptcy, mergers and in some cases there were contentious government bailouts.
If you do a search on this you will see what I’m on about – Google.

zaphodbb

At the start of the two years fabs are re-couping their outlay in plant … At the start of the two years fabs are re-couping their outlay in plant so consumers subsidise the new technology through a premium on the RAM products. Once capital outlay is paid off the fabs can afford to sell stock more cheaply. Hence the downward trend in prices.

Moore’s law applies at the cutting edge which is where Intel are but for R … Moore’s law applies at the cutting edge which is where Intel are but for RAM you can easily have the same product fabricated at the same node for 2 years so the manufacturing cost is not affected by Moore’s Law.

zaphodbb

Intel aren't best placed to talk about RAM since I've yet to find their … Intel aren't best placed to talk about RAM since I've yet to find their brand on any.


Intel weren’t commenting on RAM I was pointing out that Moore’s law applies more to the cutting edge which is CPUs and that RAM trails in terms of fabrication shrinks.


Intel was an early developer of memory chips and this represented the majority of its business until the early 80s. It sold it’s memory business a long time ago as they didn’t want to be exposed to the vagaries of manufacturing a traded commodity.

Moore’s law isn’t specifically about making CPUs cheaper. Intel doesn’t want to sell you cheaper CPUs but to sell you a more powerful CPU at the same price as the old one but which is built on a smaller fabrication process.

Original Poster

intel don`t want to sell wnythinng cheap.

i don`t much care about commodity and manufacturer markup, just the prices we see, soz.

Hi is this compatiable with

Eee PC 1000H

Memory Type: DDR2 PC2-5300, DDR2 (non-ECC)
Maximum Memory: 2GB
Slots: 1
Each memory slot can hold DDR2 PC2-5300 with a maximum of 2GB per slot.*
*Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory.

From crucial website??

Thakns

Kevlar Engineer

Hi is this compatiable withEee PC 1000HMemory Type: DDR2 PC2-5300, DDR2 … Hi is this compatiable withEee PC 1000HMemory Type: DDR2 PC2-5300, DDR2 (non-ECC)Maximum Memory: 2GBSlots: 1Each memory slot can hold DDR2 PC2-5300 with a maximum of 2GB per slot.**Not to exceed manufacturer supported memory.From crucial website??Thakns


This is compatible as it will automatically run at the lower speed.

Agharta

This is compatible as it will automatically run at the lower speed.



Really? Is it better to get this ram or the ram of the proper speed for the same price here play.com/PC/…tml

montblanc

Really? Is it better to get this ram or the ram of the proper speed for … Really? Is it better to get this ram or the ram of the proper speed for the same price here.


Yes really. RAM chips have SPD settings in them that rate them for multiple speeds/latencies.
RAM rated at 800MHz will have SPD settings for 667 and probably 533MHz as well.
The BIOS will automatically set the correct speed; it’s a very basic bread and butter feature so nothing to worry about.
I’d buy the 800MHz as it is more flexible in case you want to use it in another system.
It might even have better timings when running at 667 also; a marginal gain admittedly.

My Bios is from 2006 though, will that be okay? It's a 2007 laptop, HP Compaq 6715b.
Edited by: "montblanc" 23rd Apr 2011

Original Poster

Just as Agharta says, your laptop will be fine with this speed, it may use the full 800MHz, I don't know, but crucial recommend it here, crucial.com/uk/…tml

If you ever want to break it for parts 800MHz will be far more desirable than 666MHz. If it was a couple of quid cheaper I'd be tempted by the slower RAM.

Okay, I'll order it and put Windows 7 64bit on the laptop, it's currently running XP 32bit

Hmm they're not going to be matched pairs are they, or does that mean that they just come from the same batch/shelf? X)

Original Poster

Dual channel = small gain (~10% depending on who you ask)

Matched pairs = ??? (sorry, never think that far ahead!)

Original Poster

I am running a 1Gb and 2Gb SODIMM in dual channel mode, different sizes, speeds and manufacturers. Its not worth binning a 1Gb SODIMM just for an extra 1Gb at nearly £20.

Hence my disregard for matched pairs (marketing gimmick to sell you 2x the RAM, IMO).
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