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Vegan cheese. One of the reasons why I could never go vegan
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Vegan cheese. One of the reasons why I could never go vegan
If it's not cheese, then don't call it cheese
Gollywood21/01/2020 20:42

Vegan cheese. One of the reasons why I could never go vegan


Yup - I'm trying to cut down on meat and up my fruit and veg intake for general health reasons, but cheese is deffo the deal breaker when it comes to being vegan.
Gollywood21/01/2020 20:42

Vegan cheese. One of the reasons why I could never go vegan


I absolutely used to love cheese, used to down Stilton, Cheddar, Red Leics everything. Since giving up dairy and trying it again, it tastes like crap, I was a cheese addict but I'll never go back and I don't eat Vegan cheese either as it's no better for you than dairy based cheese.
Smeeble21/01/2020 22:50

Yup - I'm trying to cut down on meat and up my fruit and veg intake for …Yup - I'm trying to cut down on meat and up my fruit and veg intake for general health reasons, but cheese is deffo the deal breaker when it comes to being vegan.


Nah check my comment above, I did it and I wouldn't go back and I used to love cheese. Like that actor bloke said "Just Do it!"
cause dairy cheese is full of additives etc that keep the baby cow to keep coming back from more. thankfully im free from it. good to see some sheep on here though.
fishmaster21/01/2020 23:45

Nah check my comment above, I did it and I wouldn't go back and I used to …Nah check my comment above, I did it and I wouldn't go back and I used to love cheese. Like that actor bloke said "Just Do it!"


In your opinion. It seems like they are happy eating it and have already chosen not to 'just do it'
londonlad1922/01/2020 00:02

In your opinion. It seems like they are happy eating it and have already …In your opinion. It seems like they are happy eating it and have already chosen not to 'just do it'


No I'm saying I thought like them and I found out the truth was different to what I thought. That's my experience, they can choose to see what the truth is for them or not. It may not be the same as me but it's a possibility it would be.
fishmaster22/01/2020 00:08

No I'm saying I thought like them and I found out the truth was different …No I'm saying I thought like them and I found out the truth was different to what I thought. That's my experience, they can choose to see what the truth is for them or not. It may not be the same as me but it's a possibility it would be.


Yes it is up to them. Though experience is probably a more apt word as 'truth' implies a right or wrong and there isn't in this case it's all personal opinions
dbuk200021/01/2020 23:52

cause dairy cheese is full of additives etc that keep the baby cow to keep …cause dairy cheese is full of additives etc that keep the baby cow to keep coming back from more. thankfully im free from it. good to see some sheep on here though.


That's... Not how dairy farming works, or cows generally.

You don't have anything added to most UK milks(unless you specifically buy some long life milk products). And you don't need to drug cows and what you can and other than vaccination there isn't anything given to cows to impact milk production. Calves don't go back to heifers because you seperate them not because of a magic drug you give them that makes them not drink the milk.
smckirdy22/01/2020 00:41

That's... Not how dairy farming works, or cows generally.You don't have …That's... Not how dairy farming works, or cows generally.You don't have anything added to most UK milks(unless you specifically buy some long life milk products). And you don't need to drug cows and what you can and other than vaccination there isn't anything given to cows to impact milk production. Calves don't go back to heifers because you seperate them not because of a magic drug you give them that makes them not drink the milk.



Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of opioid, which is addictive.

I think dbuk2000 may have got slightly muddled as the Casomorphins occur naturally and not as an additive. However, they are completely correct in their point about dairy products being addictive
Edited by: "karmaki11er" 22nd Jan
Kingydaman21/01/2020 22:38

If it's not cheese, then don't call it cheese


Its not just cheese, its vegan cheese!!
londonlad1922/01/2020 00:12

Yes it is up to them. Though experience is probably a more apt word as …Yes it is up to them. Though experience is probably a more apt word as 'truth' implies a right or wrong and there isn't in this case it's all personal opinions


You're over thinking this
Gollywood21/01/2020 20:42

Vegan cheese. One of the reasons why I could never go vegan


Another reason is £7.50 a kilo. Around double the price of proper cow juice cheese !!
Edited by: "Captain.Banana" 22nd Jan
londonlad1922/01/2020 07:48

Nope


Truth in my case is taken from mindfulness which simple means which are all on seperate journeys, and it's about finding out the truth for yourself. The truth could well be "I can't find up cheese". I found I could from being a hard core cheese consumer There is no right or wrong here. I also don't eat Vegan cheese as once I'd given up cheese there were no health benefits from eating an alternative to something I'd quit.
fishmaster22/01/2020 07:52

Truth in my case is taken from mindfulness which simple means which are … Truth in my case is taken from mindfulness which simple means which are all on seperate journeys, and it's about finding out the truth for yourself. The truth could well be "I can't find up cheese". I found I could from being a hard core cheese consumer There is no right or wrong here. I also don't eat Vegan cheese as once I'd given up cheese there were no health benefits from eating an alternative to something I'd quit.


Still stand by experience being more accurate, because that's exactly what that was
londonlad1922/01/2020 07:57

Still stand by experience being more accurate, because that's exactly what …Still stand by experience being more accurate, because that's exactly what that was


I'm uncertain where we're going with this, but what was simple has become complex and for that reason I'm out. Have fun
fishmaster22/01/2020 08:09

I'm uncertain where we're going with this, but what was simple has become … I'm uncertain where we're going with this, but what was simple has become complex and for that reason I'm out. Have fun


Freedom of choice. Have a great day
Kingydaman21/01/2020 22:38

If it's not cheese, then don't call it cheese


‘Dairy words’ are banned from vegan products under eu law, EU think people who buy dairy products are a bit dense, easily confused and might accidentally buy a vegan product.
fishmaster22/01/2020 07:52

Truth in my case is taken from mindfulness which simple means which are … Truth in my case is taken from mindfulness which simple means which are all on seperate journeys, and it's about finding out the truth for yourself. The truth could well be "I can't find up cheese". I found I could from being a hard core cheese consumer There is no right or wrong here. I also don't eat Vegan cheese as once I'd given up cheese there were no health benefits from eating an alternative to something I'd quit.


Same experience for me too
Not dairy = not cheese!
Hot. Dairy is Scary
karmaki11er22/01/2020 01:01

Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of …Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of opioid, which is addictive. I think dbuk2000 may have got slightly muddled as the Casomorphins occur naturally and not as an additive. However, they are completely correct in their point about dairy products being addictive


Beta-casomorphins that actually come from digestion of dairy are not addictive. Soy and wheat also have opioid components when digested and they have zero addictive components.

Scientific evidence is pretty overwhelming in the conclusion that the theory that milk or natural opioid compounds from diet is not a thing and the absolute definition of fake news. It doesn't even make sense anecdotally, people that go from drinking milk to not drinking it have zero impact unless they happen to be intolerant to start with or develop it after not consuming dairy.

So they are completely wrong.
karmaki11er22/01/2020 01:01

Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of …Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of opioid, which is addictive. I think dbuk2000 may have got slightly muddled as the Casomorphins occur naturally and not as an additive. However, they are completely correct in their point about dairy products being addictive



karmaki11er22/01/2020 01:01

Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of …Dairy milk naturally contains Beta-Casomorphins, which are a form of opioid, which is addictive. I think dbuk2000 may have got slightly muddled as the Casomorphins occur naturally and not as an additive. However, they are completely correct in their point about dairy products being addictive



Thanks for clarifying.

Ultimately we aren't baby cows.
Kingydaman21/01/2020 22:38

If it's not cheese, then don't call it cheese


Tell that to KFC and their Popcorn Chicken
It isn’t an opinion anymore, I’d argue the evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of veganism
londonlad1922/01/2020 00:12

Yes it is up to them. Though experience is probably a more apt word as …Yes it is up to them. Though experience is probably a more apt word as 'truth' implies a right or wrong and there isn't in this case it's all personal opinions

KingCellulose22/01/2020 17:34

It isn’t an opinion anymore, I’d argue the evidence is overwhelmingly in fa …It isn’t an opinion anymore, I’d argue the evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of veganism


It is an opinion. Free will is also still a thing
londonlad1922/01/2020 18:04

It is an opinion. Free will is also still a thing


what makes you say it’s an opinion and not a fact?
KingCellulose22/01/2020 18:13

what makes you say it’s an opinion and not a fact?


Because that's my belief
No such thing as belief when it comes to science.. only evidence
londonlad1922/01/2020 18:19

Because that's my belief

How well does it melt?
KingCellulose22/01/2020 18:20

No such thing as belief when it comes to science.. only evidence


There's condradicting evidence. You want to be a vegan go ahead. I do not want to or believe based on evidence that it is the only way to survive.
londonlad1922/01/2020 19:00

There's condradicting evidence. You want to be a vegan go ahead. I do not …There's condradicting evidence. You want to be a vegan go ahead. I do not want to or believe based on evidence that it is the only way to survive.



I’m just calling you out for saying it’s an opinion
KingCellulose22/01/2020 19:08

I’m just calling you out for saying it’s an opinion


Nothing to call me out on. You claim veganism is the only way due to 'evidence' I say there is other evidence that I believe states otherwise. You keep being a vegan and I shall enjoy my omnivore lifestyle.
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