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KTC Vegatable Oil 10L - £7.99
KTC Vegatable Oil 10L - £7.99

KTC Vegatable Oil 10L - £7.99

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Tesco Extra have on special offer KTC Vegatable Oil 10L for £7.99

Good price, in addition to cooking I believe it can also be used in diesel car engines if you know what you are doing.

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How do you know that you can use it in diesel cars? Don't want to wreck someones car by pouring this in and it breaks down. Good price for the oil in general. Heat added :-) xx

Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you have to add a solvant of some description???

It can be used in a lot of pre 2000 cars with no problems. Of course, check your particlular model before using. Most after 2000 won't run on veg oil :thumbsup:

dmh77;2904868

Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you … Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you have to add a solvant of some description???

Your diesel car will run off cooking oil no problem. I think you're supposed to mix it up 50/50 or 75/25 with a some proper diesel to stop it clogging things up depending on the season though (don't quote me on that, that's just from what I think I remember). There are plenty of tutorials kicking around the net about brewing up homemade diesel for those interested.

no wonder these guys had 2 trolles full and they didn't appear to be mechanics. . .

ps; will it work in a 2000 w reg vectra dti ? ;-)

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dmh77;2904868

Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you … Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you have to add a solvant of some description???



Couple of sites, one of which is vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/fue…php never tried it myself :-)

Lol at the veg oil thread turning into a bio-diesel thread!!!! :-D

I reckon my old mondeo could take it though.... just dont have the nuts to try...!!! :?

Karim786;2904924

no wonder these guys had 2 trolles full and they didn't appear to be … no wonder these guys had 2 trolles full and they didn't appear to be mechanics. . .ps; will it work in a 2000 w reg vectra dti ? ;-)



Not sure on that one, i used it very successfully on older Merc's. Basically the problem comes if you have common rail injection, which i am not sure if your car is. Common rail injection cars won't run veg (at least not very long) but the old indirect injection (IDI) engines do. That's basically what you are looking for.

You can use it in new cars, however, you can not use it straight, it has to be processed into Biodiesel first, which is a bit complicated

Something very important i forgot to add, your car MUST HAVE a Bosch fuel pump, not a Lucas one

run vrs cars on oil for many years ,i was buying it from the local co-op for 2.65 for 3 litres untill recently , id guess ive done say 40-50 thousand miles on oil over the years

for usage putting it simply mix it straight into the tank at upto 75% oil , you can however use petrol for the thinning agent instead of diesel , as for a solvent , this was a stinking pile of crapola from top gear a few years ago , take that with a pinch of salt , i will say oil is thick , as such in the winter if you mix it at high values its best of luck starting the car , i go to a maximum of 50% in a mild winter and less when its proper cold

karim786 , not gunna second guess if it will work with yours , i will say the 1.7 older vauxhall lumb in both izuzu and vauxhalls own run happly enough on it with never a problem

To convert veg oil to bio diesel you need to remove the glycerin, (this is what makes it thick), you need 5 litres of methanol and some caustic soda, you then have to heat up the oil to 50c and aggitate it for 1 hour with the methanol caustic soda mix,

Veg oil works a lot better in indirect injection engines, I have personally used it in a peugoet 106 1527cc/or the saxo 1527cc, as these are the same car and engine,

If you use neat veg oil it will start to clean out your fuel system, so expect to change the fuel filter regularly, also veg oil unprocessed is quite a lot thicker than diesel so if you have an air leak on your fuel line, expect it to get a lot worse, then the engine will have a rough tickover, to be safe mix 50/50 with diesel,

and the biggest bonus is there is no fuel duty to pay on the veg oil, so long as you do less than 25,000 miles per year, I think you have to keep your receipts to prove how much you use if you get pulled.

OMG! off to Tesco to fill up the back of my Delica

Great deal Heat n' rep

I run it mixed 50/50 in my Escort 55 van. No problems at all.

I'm going to take a look in our branch.:thumbsup:

Fuel for the motor.:whistling:

should this work ok in a 98 passat tdi and or 405 1.9 D (non turbo) ???

runs with a peugoet 306 , mix 90% oil 10% deisel.

Stockcarfan;2906347

I run it mixed 50/50 in my Escort 55 van. No problems at all. I'm going … I run it mixed 50/50 in my Escort 55 van. No problems at all. I'm going to take a look in our branch.:thumbsup:Fuel for the motor.:whistling:



lol

You will be doing a few trips.... Tesco has a (very selective) 10 per customer policy. Went in for some milk, got 24 x1ltr boxes and the cashier called a supervisor over who told me quite stropily that I should not take so many as it affects their ability to keep the shelves stocked??!?!?! Felt like explaining the principals of retail, i.e. you are SUPPOSED to sell it, NOT display it, but she was a bit of a dope so I just put on my best "I didn't know that" face despite this being the 4th time I've been stopped.... she let me have them "this once".... again!! :0)

If you are looking to run this in a car then I would suggest simply looking for a Bio diesel supplier that is already treated, as it means that you can run the stuff in higher concentrations than untreated veg oil.

The Escort Van could probably run bio diesel 100%!

biodieselfillingstations.co.uk/ind…htm

I ran a Mercedes C250D on 100% untreated veg oil all through the winter with no problems, even after a heavy frost one morning where i thought i would have problems, it still started. It depends on the car though, i believe the Merc has a standard heated fuel pump which probably helped

Tony Harrison;2904913

Your diesel car will run off cooking oil no problem. I think you're … Your diesel car will run off cooking oil no problem. I think you're supposed to mix it up 50/50 or 75/25 with a some proper diesel to stop it clogging things up depending on the season though (don't quote me on that, that's just from what I think I remember). There are plenty of tutorials kicking around the net about brewing up homemade diesel for those interested.



My sister uses this in her diesel toyota 8 seater ( I can remember the name) and it runs fine, occasionally it smells like a chippy......yummy. She gets the oil from her brother in law who runs a restaurant, and needs filtering before putting in the tank, I believe you can use tights for this.

Have a look here for more info:
journeytoforever.org/bio…tml

Runs on Audi A4 Tdi 1997, Hilux Surf 1995 , Mec 250D, big horn, golf tdi

dmh77;2904868

Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you … Mmmm... I am sure I have watched somthing on this recently... dont you have to add a solvant of some description???




Some cars require solvents/thinners/a cut, some dont, unless further north in winter. Petrol is the best cut as its readily available and can be added AFTER THE OIL at a pump.



Tony Harrison;2904913

Your diesel car will run off cooking oil no problem. I think you're … Your diesel car will run off cooking oil no problem. I think you're supposed to mix it up 50/50 or 75/25 with a some proper diesel to stop it clogging things up depending on the season though (don't quote me on that, that's just from what I think I remember). There are plenty of tutorials kicking around the net about brewing up homemade diesel for those interested.





When you can trash your car with the advice - don't take advice from people who say 'i think'.




ms0001;2904925

Couple of sites, one of which is … Couple of sites, one of which is http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/fuelsdatabase/database/index.php never tried it myself :-)




Great site with good advice, have some rep.




dmh77;2904936

Lol at the veg oil thread turning into a bio-diesel thread!!!! :-DI … Lol at the veg oil thread turning into a bio-diesel thread!!!! :-DI reckon my old mondeo could take it though.... just dont have the nuts to try...!!! :?





Vegetable oil and biodiesel are entirely different things.

Vegetable oil is a trigliceride - and needs the glycerine removed to free the thinner freer flowing biodiesel - which is the three chains of the oil based methyl ester separated from the glycerol.




peodude;2904962

Something very important i forgot to add, your car MUST HAVE a Bosch fuel … Something very important i forgot to add, your car MUST HAVE a Bosch fuel pump, not a Lucas one




A good point - but some Nipon Denso pumps work too - as do all Mercedes inline pumps.

Lucas pumps work too, but will fail randomly in cold weather or at start up.




Superhands;2905271

To convert veg oil to bio diesel you need to remove the glycerin, (this … To convert veg oil to bio diesel you need to remove the glycerin, (this is what makes it thick), you need 5 litres of methanol and some caustic soda, you then have to heat up the oil to 50c and aggitate it for 1 hour with the methanol caustic soda mix,Veg oil works a lot better in indirect injection engines, I have personally used it in a peugoet 106 1527cc/or the saxo 1527cc, as these are the same car and engine,If you use neat veg oil it will start to clean out your fuel system, so expect to change the fuel filter regularly, also veg oil unprocessed is quite a lot thicker than diesel so if you have an air leak on your fuel line, expect it to get a lot worse, then the engine will have a rough tickover, to be safe mix 50/50 with diesel,and the biggest bonus is there is no fuel duty to pay on the veg oil, so long as you do less than 25,000 miles per year, I think you have to keep your receipts to prove how much you use if you get pulled.





The tax free allowance is 2500 litres - which should get a 106 well over 25000 miles.

However well over 90% of 106s and Saxos had Lucas pumps, which will suddenly fail when cold as the oil is too thick to lubricate the pump sufficiently well when cold. This could happen in your first mile or your 30 000ths mile - but it a Lucas pump WILL fail on vegetable oil (unless its is dismantled and the lubrication grooves are increased in size on the pump shaft).




Stockcarfan;2906347

I run it mixed 50/50 in my Escort 55 van. No problems at all. I'm going … I run it mixed 50/50 in my Escort 55 van. No problems at all. I'm going to take a look in our branch.:thumbsup:Fuel for the motor.:whistling:





The Escort van was a Lucas pump (unless a Bosch one was swapped from a Courier van which shared the engine) and will fail one day when it is cold.




frazman;2906385

should this work ok in a 98 passat tdi and or 405 1.9 D (non turbo) ???




I dont know about the Passat, but the 405 1.9D has a XUD 9 engine which will work well if it has a Bosch Injection pump. Don't try it with a Lucas pump, as it will run as well as a Bisch - but will fail randomly when cold.




sim11;2906423

runs with a peugoet 306 , mix 90% oil 10% deisel.




The original 306 has a XUD 9 engine which will work well with a Bosch injection pump - if you have a Lucas - it will appear to run equally well - but one day will fail entirely when cold.

Vegetable oil will not work on later HDI model 306s.




peodude;2906663

I ran a Mercedes C250D on 100% untreated veg oil all through the winter … I ran a Mercedes C250D on 100% untreated veg oil all through the winter with no problems, even after a heavy frost one morning where i thought i would have problems, it still started. It depends on the car though, i believe the Merc has a standard heated fuel pump which probably helped




It has a Mercedes inline injection pump and a heated fuel filter - the best unmodified set up for a vegetable oil powered car.

grrr never any left round my way, i think all the local restauranteurs snap it up. still heat it up

garbage456;2909438

isnt this £19 in wing yip for 25 litres?and £17.50 in booker again for 25 … isnt this £19 in wing yip for 25 litres?and £17.50 in booker again for 25 litres.



Containers are normally 20 litres.

you can just get oil for free down kebab shops and then add catalysts and chemicals n stuff if you want it for cars. it works out at about 20-30p a litre that way.

isn't it if your car is a diesel injection then it won't work?

fully_automatic;2911113

you can just get oil for free down kebab shops and then add catalysts and … you can just get oil for free down kebab shops and then add catalysts and chemicals n stuff if you want it for cars. it works out at about 20-30p a litre that way. isn't it if your car is a diesel injection then it won't work?



Eh?!?!?!?!

All diesels are 'injections'. Going right back to when Rudolph Diesel made the first that ran on peanut oil.

A catalyst is something that promotes change or a reaction (without changing itself) - so if you 'add a catalyst' - what happens to it - where does it go?

What is this 'stuff' you refer to too?

If someone sees something here and trashes their engine it is not much fun - especially if they are broke and trying to save a few bob, rather than doing it as it releases you from the grip of mineral oil or is 'green'.

Vegetable oil will work fine on some cars - but others need pretty substantial conversions. Just bunging it in could cost massively more than anything you might save - especially when you look at the advice of some complete plonkers here.

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Anybody who attempts to heat METHANOL is asking for trouble, this is a very dangerous inflammable chemical and can cause respiratory problems.
BE WARNED

alanrp123;2912436

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Anybody who attempts to heat METHANOL … WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Anybody who attempts to heat METHANOL is asking for trouble, this is a very dangerous inflammable chemical and can cause respiratory problems.BE WARNED



Good advice - but only really applies to making biodiesel or the really tiny percentage of vegetable oil users who have might use a charge cooling system on a turbo diesel and add methanol as a small percentage to the water in the charge cooling system.

If you check on ebay you can find people selling home made reactors to make biodiesel from waste vegetable oil - that have immersion heaters mounted into plastic containers.

Most reactors sold on ebay are death traps - and most 'make fuel from vegetable oil' auctions - the advice can be obtained free here....

vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/for…=10

..and members will be happy to reply to any questions you wish to ask too.

peodude;2912772

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560676/Vegetable-oil-and-methanol---the-new-diesel.html



The process is called transesterification and is producing biodiesel from vegetable oil by removing the glycerol from the triglyceride.

It uses energy and additional ingredients - and also produces waste, thereby not being as green/self sufficient as using an engine that will run on vegetable oil on its own.

garbage456;2912758

i thought 25 maybe you right if so, this is an amazing deal.



Actually - I should have clarified that.

Vegetable oil is most commonly sold in 20 litre containers or drums. The cardboard box ones have a thin plastic container inside - and are often referred to by suppliers as 'box in a box' or generally as 'cubes'. KTC also do 15 litre cubes and drums, but I cannot think of any 25 litre supplier.

However, the most common size of industrial containers in this range is normally 25 litre plastic ones that can be stacked.
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