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Lamb legs (fresh) - £3.95/kg @ Iceland
Lamb legs (fresh) - £3.95/kg @ Iceland

Lamb legs (fresh) - £3.95/kg @ Iceland

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Poster at my local Iceland saying lamb legs on offer for £3.95/kg. It said on the poster offer starting tomorrow, but were already available in my store.

New Zealand lamb, looked good quality & nicer than the Aldi ones.

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Can't be fresh if it's frozen...?

prash_2k

Can't be fresh if it's frozen...?



Iceland don't only sell frozen food...

From description:

Product Information
Storage
Keep Frozen

It's frozen; if it's "fresh", someone left it out of the freezer in the shop

lazyfatboy

Iceland don't only sell frozen food...



No they don't. They sell jars of stuff too. Anything you need for your doomsday bunker.

But frozen is not fresh and at £3.95/kg and the fact it's from Newzeland and Samani post means it's frozen.

Therefore not fresh.

Original Poster

It's definetley fresh and not been frozen! In iceland they always sell chicken, mince, pork chops, all sorts of things that they sell from the fridges not the freezers!!

Hi does anyone know if this is fresh or frozen?

this is fresh, its also very nice meat I had one for dinner yesterday

prash_2k

No they don't. They sell jars of stuff too. Anything you need for your … No they don't. They sell jars of stuff too. Anything you need for your doomsday bunker. But frozen is not fresh and at £3.95/kg and the fact it's from Newzeland and Samani post means it's frozen. Therefore not fresh.



New Zealand lamb (whoever it is that is selling it) comes in to the country fresh (vacuum packed) as well as frozen.

nihcaj

New Zealand lamb (whoever it is that is selling it) comes in to the … New Zealand lamb (whoever it is that is selling it) comes in to the country fresh (vacuum packed) as well as frozen.



Omg?!? Honestly are you stupid!!

If it's frozen it CANNOT be

Aldi £3.75 a kilo, fresh.

prash_2k

Omg?!? Honestly are you stupid!!If it's frozen it CANNOT be



Look its fresh - killed in New Zealand , frozen for the ship journey , then defrosted on the sunny shores of England , then sold as fresh
Therefore its fresh, as been fresh twice and only frozen once

crippsy1701

Look its fresh - killed in New Zealand , frozen for the ship journey , … Look its fresh - killed in New Zealand , frozen for the ship journey , then defrosted on the sunny shores of England , then sold as fresh Therefore its fresh, as been fresh twice and only frozen once



No wonder we have an obesity crisis in the U.K. adults don't know what fresh means.

Here it is from the dictionary.

Noun. 1. fresh food - food that is not preserved by canning or dehydration or freezing or smoking. fresh foods. solid food, food - any solid substance (as opposed to liquid) that is used as a source of nourishment; "food and drink"

prash_2k

No wonder we have an obesity crisis in the U.K. adults don't know what … No wonder we have an obesity crisis in the U.K. adults don't know what fresh means. Here it is from the dictionary. Noun. 1. fresh food - food that is not preserved by canning or dehydration or freezing or smoking. fresh foods. solid food, food - any solid substance (as opposed to liquid) that is used as a source of nourishment; "food and drink"



I know but thought I would wind up prash_2k lol.

Scientifically - as soon as you have frozen food some cells expand, burst and die.
Living matter is made entirely of cells. We eat the cells to gain nutrients.

As soon as u freeze u begin to lose cells in large quantities and it's no longer fresh.
Lose more and it goes off.

Simple GCSE science.
Edited by: "prash_2k" 10th Apr

Hot fresh made up frozen cold jargon oO

Jokes aside. Some people genuinely thing frozen food is fresh.
Due to the likes of birds eyes and their clever marketing.

prash_2k

Jokes aside. Some people genuinely thing frozen food is fresh. Due to the … Jokes aside. Some people genuinely thing frozen food is fresh. Due to the likes of birds eyes and their clever marketing.



I would never class anything that has been frozen at any stage as fresh , except for this leg of lamb
Edited by: "crippsy1701" 10th Apr

This is sold in the fridges, its not frozen. Perhaps deliberately defrosted? However I believe that NZ lamb is transported at near freezing temperatures rather than actually frozen? Regardless, when you buy it you can poke it and it squishes a little, its stored next to the allegedly fresh chicken and the possibly fresh beef in the fridges.

prash_2k

Omg?!? Honestly are you stupid!!If it's frozen it CANNOT be



No I am not stupid, but you seem to be hard of understanding. Some New Zealand lamb is imported Frozen, some is imported NOT frozen. This is imported NOT FROZEN. If you can't understand that, go and bother someone else.

crippsy1701

I would never class anything that has been frozen at any stage as fresh , … I would never class anything that has been frozen at any stage as fresh , except for this leg of lamb



It has NOT been frozen at any stage.

tek-monkey

This is sold in the fridges, its not frozen. Perhaps deliberately … This is sold in the fridges, its not frozen. Perhaps deliberately defrosted? However I believe that NZ lamb is transported at near freezing temperatures rather than actually frozen? Regardless, when you buy it you can poke it and it squishes a little, its stored next to the allegedly fresh chicken and the possibly fresh beef in the fridges.



You are quite right, it is imported vacuum packed and keep very cool but not frozen. Someone on this thread is spreading deliberate misinformation.

heat given. Just received email from Iceland about this offer.

The Lamb is 'FRESH' it has NEVER' been frozen. It is brought to us 'CHILLED', above freezing so therefore is classed as FRESH !!

I bought one this morning and it was good quality FRESH lamb (NZ). I also bought one from the Aldi next door and it wasn't a patch on the Iceland lamb. The Aldi one was British, but will be 'old season' and probably classed as Hogget. None of them had any fat on them and the vacuum bag was full of water for which you are paying £3.75 per kg. The NZ lamb had a nice cover of fat and was 'dry' in the bag. Pity they didn't have two left or I would have taken the Aldi one back.

nihcaj

You are quite right, it is imported vacuum packed and keep very cool but … You are quite right, it is imported vacuum packed and keep very cool but not frozen. Someone on this thread is spreading deliberate misinformation.



In the days when the only way of transporting meat from NZ to the UK was by ship, it was all frozen. Nowadays, they have flying machines that can be used to transport chilled meat halfway round the world in a day or so....

Also, NZ lambs eat grass, whereas, at this time of the year, British lambs will have been fed on grain based processed animal feed. I suspect the NZ lamb will taste nicer....

NZ also has a better rugby team....

DealScouter

It's definetley fresh and not been frozen! In iceland they always sell … It's definetley fresh and not been frozen! In iceland they always sell chicken, mince, pork chops, all sorts of things that they sell from the fridges not the freezers!!



Its been on a boat from New Zealand for 6 weeks. So I am pretty sure it has been frozen!!

qwerdle

In the days when the only way of transporting meat from NZ to the UK was … In the days when the only way of transporting meat from NZ to the UK was by ship, it was all frozen. Nowadays, they have flying machines that can be used to transport chilled meat halfway round the world in a day or so....Also, NZ lambs eat grass, whereas, at this time of the year, British lambs will have been fed on grain based processed animal feed. I suspect the NZ lamb will taste nicer....NZ also has a better rugby team....



Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This has been frozen 100%, I worked in a supermarket food logistics centre for a while and it comes in large TDK boxes at -2C. Still nothing wrong with that @£4kilo its a bloody bargain!

nihcaj

It has NOT been frozen at any stage.



LOL

you need to take a sharp knife to the store, rip open the plastic & smell the meat

if it smells fresh, it's fine

if it smells foul, it's chicken

don't stab anybody on the way out

Tyranicus66

Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This … Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This has been frozen 100%, I worked in a supermarket food logistics centre for a while and it comes in large TDK boxes at -2C. Still nothing wrong with that @£4kilo its a bloody bargain!



Yes, because meat does not freeze at that temperature, as it isn't pure water! In fact if it does freeze at temperatures only slightly below 0deg C, it RUINS the texture, fast freezing at -18 and much lower is essential to minimise the crystal formation that occurs and minimise the damage.
The vacuum packing extends the keeping period, and to som extent the enzymes in the meat d tenderise it, although I find it gets a bit "gamey" if kept for too long this way.

Here's the info you need: mia.co.nz/doc…pdf
Edited by: "nihcaj" 10th Apr

nihcaj

Yes, because meat does not freeze at that temperature, as it isn't pure … Yes, because meat does not freeze at that temperature, as it isn't pure water! In fact if it does freeze at temperatures only slightly below 0deg C, it RUINS the texture, fast freezing at -18 and much lower is essential to minimise the crystal formation that occurs and minimise the damage.The vacuum packing extends the keeping period, and to som extent the enzymes in the meat d tenderise it, although I find it gets a bit "gamey" if kept for too long this way.


Freezing point is at 0C. So it is transported in frozen conditions, they call it cryo-vac/TDK and its unloaded/load in the frozen section of the RDC (regional distribution centre).The description "fresh" is right on the line that has been manipulated in favour of the supermarkets. Either way, great product great price so who really cares?

Tyranicus66

Freezing point is at 0C. So it is transported in frozen conditions, they … Freezing point is at 0C. So it is transported in frozen conditions, they call it cryo-vac/TDK and its unloaded/load in the frozen section of the RDC (regional distribution centre).The description "fresh" is right on the line that has been manipulated in favour of the supermarkets. Either way, great product great price so who really cares?



IT does NOT freeze! It would be like trying to freeze salt and water at 0 degrees! That's why salt on the roads stops ice forming!

prash_2k

No wonder we have an obesity crisis in the U.K. adults don't know what … No wonder we have an obesity crisis in the U.K. adults don't know what fresh means. Here it is from the dictionary. Noun. 1. fresh food - food that is not preserved by canning or dehydration or freezing or smoking. fresh foods. solid food, food - any solid substance (as opposed to liquid) that is used as a source of nourishment; "food and drink"



That's why they're currently having an advertising campaign on radio, telling people the difference between 'best before' and 'use before' - because lots of people are stupid If you're an adult and don't know the difference already - probably won't understand the advert!

Cooking instructions on the item on their website are 'From chilled after defrosting' and storage instructions state 'keep frozen'. Also the item in the link has this as British and not from New Zealand. It's the only whole leg of Lamb that shows up in a search on the Iceland website.

Tyranicus66

Its been on a boat from New Zealand for 6 weeks. So I am pretty sure it … Its been on a boat from New Zealand for 6 weeks. So I am pretty sure it has been frozen!!



Wrong !

Tyranicus66

Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This … Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This has been frozen 100%, I worked in a supermarket food logistics centre for a while and it comes in large TDK boxes at -2C. Still nothing wrong with that @£4kilo its a bloody bargain!


Wrong - it has not been frozen.

Tyranicus66

Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This … Air freight costs a tonne. Mass produced meat still comes via ship. This has been frozen 100%, I worked in a supermarket food logistics centre for a while and it comes in large TDK boxes at -2C. Still nothing wrong with that @£4kilo its a bloody bargain!



google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://farmersweekly.co.nz/section/beef/view/lamb-price-lift-temporary-report&ved=0ahUKEwim5pTd0ZrTAhUKfRoKHVISBDUQFghLMAU&usg=AFQjCNFBSIcG5G6gdl3ZgCMBk0vkBUPIpg&sig2=mowocYLCKNH0o_qpS4bwgg

NZ lamb IS flown to the UK (as well as by sea) and air freight does cost a ton, but some supermarkets are prepared to take the loss to get people into the store.

These legs are fresh alright. I just went to pick some up. And they ran off

andydandy

These legs are fresh alright. I just went to pick some up. And they ran … These legs are fresh alright. I just went to pick some up. And they ran off



​I don't like the flow of an argumentative thread being disrupted by humour....
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