LAP 16w LED Bathroom Lamp £29.99 @ Screwfix
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LAP 16w LED Bathroom Lamp £29.99 @ Screwfix

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Found 13th Sep 2015
Been looking for a decent bright light for the bathroom as the current one is useless, browsing Screwfix I found this LED lamp by LAP (a decent brand). A quick look around and at £29.99 this seems a very good price indeed.

According to the instructions - This fitting has non replaceable LEDs. The 36 LEDs give approximately 1700 Lumen light output for 16W energy consumption.

Anyway I have bought one although haven't got it yet so can't really comment on just how good/bad it is.

Specifications:-

Brand LAP
Colour White
Design Type Contemporary Design
Dimmable Non-dimmable
Energy Rating A
Finish White
Fixings Supplied Fixings supplied
IP Rating IP44
Lamp Type LED
Life Length 25000 hours
Lm 1200 lm
Manufacturer Guarantee 1 years
Manufacturing Standards EN 60598
Max. Wattage 16 W
Model Name Amazon
Model No 51406
Pack Size 1
Power Output (Watts/Kw) 16 W
Power Voltage Supply 240 V
Product Depth 110 mm
Product Diameter 325 mm
Product Height 110 mm
Product Type LED Bathroom Ceiling Light
Product Width 325 mm
Total Product Weight 1.07 kg
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deleted1032520
These have been this price for months and months not really a deal.
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OrribleHarry

These have been this price for months and months not really a deal.



Apparently it "was" £49.99 although their site doesn't say when.... the next best price I could find though was £34.99.
Fixings supplied. Max 16W. 1 year manufacturer's guarantee. Weight 1.07kg. The LED lamps cannot be changed in this luminaire cold
scoobytawazara

Fixings supplied. Max 16W. 1 year manufacturer's guarantee. Weight … Fixings supplied. Max 16W. 1 year manufacturer's guarantee. Weight 1.07kg. The LED lamps cannot be changed in this luminaire cold



It has 25000 hrs of life so in theory you won't need to change it for next 17 years that too if you use this light 4 hrs everyday!!
Says 1200 lumens in the spec?
This is the same price but 24w / 2000 lumen:

amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1
tek-monkey

This is the same price but 24w / 2000 … This is the same price but 24w / 2000 lumen:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00L44KMAE?psc=1


Amazon light doesn't say it's suitable for bathrooms
mario2001

It has 25000 hrs of life so in theory you won't need to change it for … It has 25000 hrs of life so in theory you won't need to change it for next 17 years that too if you use this light 4 hrs everyday!!



why don't they give a longer guarantee if they are sure ?
scoobytawazara

why don't they give a longer guarantee if they are sure ?



Good point
scoobytawazara

why don't they give a longer guarantee if they are sure ?



The guarantee is always different to tye average life expectancy. They do not test them for 50,000 hours. They will be tested in batches then multiplied based on their LM-80 results and TM-21 data.
Some makes have a L70 B50 rating meaning after 50% of the LEDs life it will still have 70% of the leds still working.
alfreer1

Amazon light doesn't say it's suitable for bathrooms



Good point!
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Picked up mine early and have fitted it, it's super bright and just what I was looking for.
busterdan

Picked up mine early and have fitted it, it's super bright and just what … Picked up mine early and have fitted it, it's super bright and just what I was looking for.



Is it 1700 or 1200 lumens?
This one is cheap and ip44, long wait for delivery though!

amazon.co.uk/gp/…1_2?qid=1442299731&sr=1-2π=SY200_QL40&keywords=Led+bathroom+ceiling+lights&dpPl=1&dpID=31uY4t6ZWkL&ref=plSrch
Edited by: "tek-monkey" 15th Sep 2015
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tek-monkey

Is it 1700 or 1200 lumens?



​1700
busterdan

​1700



Thanks
scoobytawazara

The LED lamps cannot be changed in this luminaire cold


Just like every other LED light fitting! Heat from me OP, none from the efficient light fitting, maybe scooby needs tungsten light to heat the bathroom.
wakers88

The guarantee is always different to tye average life expectancy. They do … The guarantee is always different to tye average life expectancy. They do not test them for 50,000 hours. They will be tested in batches then multiplied based on their LM-80 results and TM-21 data.Some makes have a L70 B50 rating meaning after 50% of the LEDs life it will still have 70% of the leds still working.


Maybe, but I doubt this is tested properly. After all, 25000h are 3 years, and nobody wants to wait 3 years before launching a bathroom light as a product. So they may have tested the LEDs, but not the power electronics...

Also IP44 is not ideal in the bathroom - especially for an unserviceable light I would expected full IP67.
how hard to fit it?
IP44 lol
different product;
toolstation.com/sho…627

43627 LED Luna 2D Type Fitting IP65 14W 790lm

£32.48
14w
IP 65
bulb is replaceable ,
can buy a silver trim for it (£3.45)
light given off it is cool white and is bright.
I wouldn't say LAP are a decent brand, I bought 16 dimmable LAP LED spotlights from screwfix, four stopped working within a month, and two exploded, one embarassingly when the meter reader was in the utility room. Replaced them with Philips and not a single problem. Maybe this is better built though.
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rodman

how hard to fit it?


Pretty straight forward..

The top screws off, underneath is a cover with 4 small screws over the connector block, this is a usual 3 terminal block. L, E, N. There are three mounting hole points, but you have to drill these for the screws to go through, I used a 5mm wood drill bit. Then there is a rubber grommet you pass the cable through to connect the wires into the terminals.

So you pass the wires through the grommet, connect the wires to the terminals and screw it up into the ceiling. The screws have a rubber and metal washer, and this compresses (from inside the light) to seal the holes through which the screws pass. Refit the cover to the connector block and screw the top/diffuser back on.

That's it really.

Edited by: "busterdan" 15th Sep 2015
gap30

IP44 lol


Depending on how far away from your shower you're fitting this and how high your ceilings are etc, then IP44 is fine.
gringo1804

Depending on how far away from your shower you're fitting this and how … Depending on how far away from your shower you're fitting this and how high your ceilings are etc, then IP44 is fine.



http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/product.php/396064271/jcc-lighting-jc23202wpr-radialed-utility-white-vandal-resitant-led-bulkhead-with-prismatic-diffuser-ip65-1500-lumens-23w-240v-dia--283mm-x-d--85-4mm

Put a proper fitting in not LAP
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gap30

http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/product.php/396064271/jcc-lighting-jc23202wpr-radialed-utility-white-vandal-resitant-led-bulkhead-with-prismatic-diffuser-ip65-1500-lumens-23w-240v-dia--283mm-x-d--85-4mmPut a proper fitting in not LAP



Looks like a bulk head light... great for outdoors but in a bathroom? also £33 +vat and I assume delivery.
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tek-monkey

16w IP65 here for £25.20 … 16w IP65 here for £25.20 delivered:http://www.ledsave.co.uk/16-w-led-bulkhead.html



This is identical to the Lap one, so it's a great price delivered. However it can't be IP65 or the LAP one is actually IP65 afterall.
busterdan

This is identical to the Lap one, so it's a great price delivered. … This is identical to the Lap one, so it's a great price delivered. However it can't be IP65 or the LAP one is actually IP65 afterall.



Also a 5 year warranty, the LAP one has 1 year.
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tek-monkey

Also a 5 year warranty, the LAP one has 1 year.



Add it as a deal
tek-monkey

16w IP65 here for £25.20 … 16w IP65 here for £25.20 delivered:http://www.ledsave.co.uk/16-w-led-bulkhead.html


I'd say that was a deal though I'd recommend the microwave movement sensor version(£33.70 delivered). Call me lazy though it's a pleasure walking about the house having the lights come on automagically when light levels require it.

Edited by: "damadgeruk" 16th Sep 2015
busterdan

Looks like a bulk head light... great for outdoors but in a bathroom? … Looks like a bulk head light... great for outdoors but in a bathroom? also £33 +vat and I assume delivery.



I fit a lot of these in bathrooms and always get a great response from customers, they are really good light fittings

They are unlike most cheap LED fittings, they give off a fantastic light
damadgeruk

I'd say that was a deal though I'd recommend the microwave movement … I'd say that was a deal though I'd recommend the microwave movement sensor version(£40.44 delivered). Call me lazy though it's a pleasure walking about the house having the lights come on automagically when light levels require it.



Microwave version actually £33.70 delivered using VATFREE discount code
gap30

I fit a lot of these in bathrooms and always get a great response from … I fit a lot of these in bathrooms and always get a great response from customers, they are really good light fittingsThey are unlike most cheap LED fittings, they give off a fantastic light


Aesthetics aside, 'your' light quotes 1500 lumens vs 1700 lumens with OP light(yes, I know numbers can't be relied on). Will need to see one for comparison.
I have no way of verifying the light output, but I'm very happy with the one I got from my earlier link (hotukdeals.com/dea…393?p=25993689). Fitted it yesterday, gives off a lot more light than the old bulb which said 1200lm on it. The light is very even, and you can't see the LEDs at all just a glowing dome.
tek-monkey

I have no way of verifying the light output, but I'm very happy with the … I have no way of verifying the light output, but I'm very happy with the one I got from my earlier link (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lap-16w-led-bathroom-lamp-29-99-screwfix-2281393?p=25993689). Fitted it yesterday, gives off a lot more light than the old bulb which said 1200lm on it. The light is very even, and you can't see the LEDs at all just a glowing dome.


Did you mean the link to state:

http://www.ledsave.co.uk/16-w-led-bulkhead.html

How are you finding the light as you have had it a month?

With the microwave sensor, can a switch still be used for the light or is it one operating version or the other only?

Can the sensor be easily replaced or would a new light have to be installed when it fails?
thetarget

Did you mean the link to … Did you mean the link to state:http://www.ledsave.co.uk/16-w-led-bulkhead.htmlHow are you finding the light as you have had it a month? With the microwave sensor, can a switch still be used for the light or is it one operating version or the other only?Can the sensor be easily replaced or would a new light have to be installed when it fails?



The light is excellent, perfectly even and brighter than the 100w incandescent it most recently replaced. Mine isn't the microwave version, although I am very tempted to get that one for in the garage now I've seen how good they are. If it fails I'd say the whole unit needs replacing, but I guess if the LEDs are what dies the driver can still be utilised.
tek-monkey

The light is excellent, perfectly even and brighter than the 100w … The light is excellent, perfectly even and brighter than the 100w incandescent it most recently replaced. Mine isn't the microwave version, although I am very tempted to get that one for in the garage now I've seen how good they are. If it fails I'd say the whole unit needs replacing, but I guess if the LEDs are what dies the driver can still be utilised.



Thanks for the info. I think I have decided not to opt for the microwave version. It's easy enough to grab a pull switch in a bathroom. Means that pets won't turn the light on accidentally.
The company sent me the instruction sheet and it looks like the brightness of the light can be adjusted with jumper switches. The sensor can also be adjusted too if you opt for that version.

I'm going to order a standard version in whilte for the bathroom. If it looks okay when I receive it, I may get one to place in the kitchen too. It looks unobtrusive in the online images but should provide a lot of light. I keep hitting my head on the current light which hangs down from the ceiling in the kitchen and that isn't so bright.

Actually wondering what it would be like used with a microwave sensor as an outdoor security light instead of those cheap halogen high wattage PIR flood lights. Unless it is too bright and the neighbours may think a UFO has crashed into the rear of the property.
I have the standard version in my bathroom and it's great, I could make it cheaper as 5630 LEDs are cheap enough but I'm happy enough to buy a few more if these. I'd say to only get as downlights, on a wall they'd annoy neighbours.
Ordered a motion sensor one for the garage, will let you know what its like.
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