LAP Double mains and Twin USB wall socket £7.49 @ Screwfix
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LAP Double mains and Twin USB wall socket £7.49 @ Screwfix

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Found 10th Feb 2016
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Durable, moulded, double pole switched socket with 2 x USB charging ports. Classic, fire retardant design. Features large capacity, simple to wire terminals for easy installation. Ideal for charging iPads, iPhones, tablets, mobiles, cameras and more.
Classic Design
Fire Retardant
Ideal Retrofit
Double Pole
Twin Earth
Large Capacity Easy to Wire Terminals
Inboard Rockers

USB outputs: shared 2.1A


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Classic Design, yes the Edwardians loved their USB sockets.
Shame no one does a single socket with usb.
Maxow

Shame no one does a single socket with usb.



They do, it was posted on here a few days ago.
still can't understand why these are 4-5x more expensive than the regular sockets? costs them pennies to integrate the usb charging function.
229mel

still can't understand why these are 4-5x more expensive than the regular … still can't understand why these are 4-5x more expensive than the regular sockets? costs them pennies to integrate the usb charging function.


Supply and demand mate ... Just basic economics
These still get me a little worried, do they constantly have the transformer running inside them? Meaning it would be throwing money away like leaving a normal charger plugged in 24/7?
It would be helpful to list mah.. is it 1A or a fast charger that outputs 2A or more?
Edited by: "Monzer" 10th Feb 2016
Just adding for info:

USB outputs: shared 2.1A
Monzer

It would be helpful to list mah.. is it 1000mah or a fast charger that … It would be helpful to list mah.. is it 1000mah or a fast charger that outputs 2000mah or more?


different units..
mah is a capacity rating
229mel

still can't understand why these are 4-5x more expensive than the regular … still can't understand why these are 4-5x more expensive than the regular sockets? costs them pennies to integrate the usb charging function.



​people buy them at that price so we will sell them at that price! millions of the things get sold n no real complaints about price even when not on offer so can't be too bad
229mel

:D:D different units..mah is a capacity rating



That's what I meant. Tired.
229mel

:D:D different units..mah is a capacity rating



Quite right 229Mel ... As long as you keep paying your electricity bill, these are rated at 2100 x ∞ = INFINITE maH ...
It says 2.1a so that is like a Samsung or apple tablet charger. Phone chargers are rated 1 amp. Mind you, if its shared and you have two devices, I suppose it means they take 1.05 each or is it not that simple? I haven't got a clue really!
DannySlev

These still get me a little worried, do they constantly have the … These still get me a little worried, do they constantly have the transformer running inside them? Meaning it would be throwing money away like leaving a normal charger plugged in 24/7?



​Yes, constantly throwing about 2p a year away
Waldolf

​Yes, constantly throwing about 2p a year away


According to my maths if 1000w is 12p per hour, and lets say this charger uses 10 watts. So leaving this on a full year should be £10.25. Well over 2p

I could be wrong however.

EDIT: I ACTUALLY AM WRONG. PLEASE DISREGARD ANYTHING SAID ABOVE AND REFER TO SOME MEMBERS WHO REPLIED TO MY ORIGINAL POST. THEY MAKE SENSE.
Edited by: "Tanweeralqarni" 11th Feb 2016
Tanweeralqarni

According to my maths if 1000w is 12p per hour, and lets say this charger … According to my maths if 1000w is 12p per hour, and lets say this charger uses 10 watts. So leaving this on a full year should be £10.25. Well over 2pI could be wrong however.



I doubt this uses 10w at idle - you'd feel it get a little bit warm. You're looking at milliwats as it uses switch-mode tech. It will cost a less than a couple of quid at very best
Wide Awake Jake

It says 2.1a so that is like a Samsung or apple tablet charger. Phone … It says 2.1a so that is like a Samsung or apple tablet charger. Phone chargers are rated 1 amp. Mind you, if its shared and you have two devices, I suppose it means they take 1.05 each or is it not that simple? I haven't got a clue really!



If you have one item attached you will be able to fast charge it at 2.1A (2100mA). So my 2200mAh mobile phone battery would charge in just over an hour. With two devices attached, each item will be charged at around 1A (1000mA) which would take about 2 hours to charge a mobile phone battery.
Good price

Do you need an electrician to fit this to keep your home insurance valid or can you do it yourself?
A2DY_

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bg-13a-1-gang-sp-switched-socket-2-gang-usb-charger-7-49-screwfix-2391955?


Thanks, that's handy
they have the bg ones on offer for a a pound extra. these look a bit cheap when i saw them yesterday

they will sort out the issue of bigger plugs on these which is good just not very nice to look at
229mel

:D:D different units..mah is a capacity rating


2.1 thousand mAh per hour
Tanweeralqarni

According to my maths if 1000w is 12p per hour, and lets say this charger … According to my maths if 1000w is 12p per hour, and lets say this charger uses 10 watts. So leaving this on a full year should be £10.25. Well over 2pI could be wrong however.

You are. The best evidence I could quickly hunt down is from GreenMonk, who tried several phone chargers and found they all had below 100mW power draw when idle. This socket, unless horribly engineered, is probably similar; 100mW would add up to 0.88KWh per year. Pennies.

You'd be able to detect a 10W idle power draw really easily, because it turns into heat. The socket would get noticeably hot at 10W (or even 1W), not so at <100mW.
Edited by: "peterdenhaan" 11th Feb 2016
Monzer

It would be helpful to list mah.. is it 1A or a fast charger that … It would be helpful to list mah.. is it 1A or a fast charger that outputs 2A or more?



If it outputs 2.1A, then that is equivalent to 2100mA, which can only ever charge at a rate of 2100mAh.

118luke

I doubt this uses 10w at idle - you'd feel it get a little bit warm. … I doubt this uses 10w at idle - you'd feel it get a little bit warm. You're looking at milliwats as it uses switch-mode tech. It will cost a less than a couple of quid at very best



I think I'd be more concerned with having a power supply that I couldn't unplug when going on holiday, hopefully this isn't some rubbish Chinese product, but you never know, in the last thread for one of these someone posted an article showing just how many of these bought from shops, are not safe.

mike
georgewrightt

lap-13a-2-gang-dp-switched-socket-2-1a-2-gang-usb-charger - £1.50 more … lap-13a-2-gang-dp-switched-socket-2-1a-2-gang-usb-charger - £1.50 more but the quality looks far superior




i like that one better


They only had single socket
fishmaster

Classic Design, yes the Edwardians loved their USB sockets.

Wide Awake Jake

It says 2.1a so that is like a Samsung or apple tablet charger. Phone … It says 2.1a so that is like a Samsung or apple tablet charger. Phone chargers are rated 1 amp. Mind you, if its shared and you have two devices, I suppose it means they take 1.05 each or is it not that simple? I haven't got a clue really!



Thanks. Should be fine for overnight charging of a tablet and a phone, or even two tablets then (if it doesn't set fire to the house, no idea how stringent LAP's specifications are on the built in charging circuitry.
Would be a good idea if they started putting an on/off switch on the USB part or integrating the power for them with the socket switches.

Still feel a normal multi port usb mains charger is much more convenient.

Edited by: "topss" 11th Feb 2016
If the switches also turn off the USB circuitry i`d be interested in getting this.. if not then No chance. Wouldn`t be happy about the charging part being powered 24/7 #firerisk
mbuckhurst

If it outputs 2.1A, then that is equivalent to 2100mA, which can only … If it outputs 2.1A, then that is equivalent to 2100mA, which can only ever charge at a rate of 2100mAh.I think I'd be more concerned with having a power supply that I couldn't unplug when going on holiday, hopefully this isn't some rubbish Chinese product, but you never know, in the last thread for one of these someone posted an article showing just how many of these bought from shops, are not safe.mike



that article that gets posted was dated back something like 10 years when these first came out, and they stated that there "could" be issues.
Screwfux only sell C E rated.
We have these and frankly they are great.
mcsmik

Good priceDo you need an electrician to fit this to keep your home … Good priceDo you need an electrician to fit this to keep your home insurance valid or can you do it yourself?



You can fit yourself.

As far as I'm aware you can do most simple electrical jobs yourself without needing to pay anyone or notify the authorities - socket spurs, new ring sockets, replacing existing sockets or light fittings like for like and fitting new lights in none notifiable areas (such as bathroom/kitchen, but I am confident fitting into those areas also).
Edited by: "HaroFreestyler" 11th Feb 2016
Another note, LAP products are excellent, I have their sockets, switches, LED bulbs and light fittings all over the house and never had any problems.
FocusST

You can fit yourself.As far as I'm aware you can do most simple … You can fit yourself.As far as I'm aware you can do most simple electrical jobs yourself without needing to pay anyone or notify the authorities - socket spurs, new ring sockets, replacing existing sockets or light fittings like for like and fitting new lights in none notifiable areas (bathroom/kitchen).



Whilst all that is true, it's only a good idea taking this on if you're competent with household electrics. And be safe!
FocusST

You can fit yourself.As far as I'm aware you can do most simple … You can fit yourself.As far as I'm aware you can do most simple electrical jobs yourself without needing to pay anyone or notify the authorities - socket spurs, new ring sockets, replacing existing sockets or light fittings like for like and fitting new lights in none notifiable areas (such as bathroom/kitchen, but I am confident fitting into those areas also).



I'd say changing a socket facia like this product is a DIY job as long as your reasonably confident, isolate the mains FFS though - just because the facia is switched off it will still have 230v going to the terminals ( rookie mistake ) oh and when you terminate the wires make sure they are properly clamped down, no excess copper is showing on the wires and give the wires a good tug to make sure they are terminated tightly. In regards to adding another socket on a ring main, if you don't know the difference between a ring and a radial and how they both differ then leave that to the sparkies as cutting a ring is a fire risk.
Edited by: "Bikerdanny" 11th Feb 2016
Just bought 10 of these . About to buy my first home . Just waiting on solicitors to pull their finger out and have been waiting for a decent price on these
declanbowley12

Just bought 10 of these . About to buy my first home . Just waiting on … Just bought 10 of these . About to buy my first home . Just waiting on solicitors to pull their finger out and have been waiting for a decent price on these



For your sake i hope they've fixed these issues :

electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/med…pdf
Mecoconuts

For your sake i hope they've fixed these issues : … For your sake i hope they've fixed these issues : :)http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100145109/web_usb-article-from-so32.pdf



And order cancelled ...... I think some research is needed . I'll give it the weekend and let the electrician have a look . Thanks for the advice man
mbuckhurst

If it outputs 2.1A, then that is equivalent to 2100mA, which can only … If it outputs 2.1A, then that is equivalent to 2100mA, which can only ever charge at a rate of 2100mAh.I think I'd be more concerned with having a power supply that I couldn't unplug when going on holiday, hopefully this isn't some rubbish Chinese product, but you never know, in the last thread for one of these someone posted an article showing just how many of these bought from shops, are not safe.mike




My experience shows that the are NOT safe and that I personally WOULD NEVER have one. I therefore vote cold on all of these deals. Whilst a good price, the product itself is appalling until we get one that actually has some form of insulation, shielding and in general just a well engineered design. Stay safe, buy an Anker (or similar) multi-port charger and cables instead!
Mecoconuts

For your sake i hope they've fixed these issues : … For your sake i hope they've fixed these issues : :)http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100145109/web_usb-article-from-so32.pdf



Thanks for posting as this is SOOO important!
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