Larsson & Jennings Lugano 40mm was £195 now £78 with Member Code PLUS20 in the Winter Sale. Other colours available.
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Larsson & Jennings Lugano 40mm was £195 now £78 with Member Code PLUS20 in the Winter Sale. Other colours available.

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Found 14th JanEdited by:"Speedbirdjw"
Currently in the Larsson and Jennings winter sale you can get many of the Lugano collection watches for only £78 with discount code PLUS20 when you open an L&J account. This gives an additional 20% off for members in the up to 50% off sale. These watches sell in selfridges, Harvey Nichols and Liberty for £195 in various colours. I have two different ones of these and can highly recommend them.

update. TopCashback states 5% cashback but tracked at £21 cashback
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Is this is a good brand?

I don't want to ask my wife as I want to buy it her as a present lol

Don't know mucha bout waches. Was going to buy her a Hugo Boss watch.
GeordieAffy201411 m ago

Is this is a good brand?I don't want to ask my wife as I want to buy it …Is this is a good brand?I don't want to ask my wife as I want to buy it her as a present lolDon't know mucha bout waches. Was going to buy her a Hugo Boss watch.


Yes it's generally rated a good brand for the price range.
Just treated myself to one. Thanks for posting the deal.
GeordieAffy20142 h, 24 m ago

Is this is a good brand?I don't want to ask my wife as I want to buy it …Is this is a good brand?I don't want to ask my wife as I want to buy it her as a present lolDon't know mucha bout waches. Was going to buy her a Hugo Boss watch.


I've had mine 3 years now and get compliments every time I wear it. The watches are great quality too - I wouldn't hesitate at this price.
The amount of people that comment on my watch at work and ask where it's from is unbelievable. Never had a watch before that people even notice. I prefer these to the DW ones although they often appear similar. Retailers must rate them to sell them in selfridges and Harvey Nichols etc too.
Why are some lugano's more expensive than others?
These are literally watches that they pay a chinese box-shifter to stick a logo on. If you go onto Alibaba express, you'll be able to buy the same watch (I don't mean similar, I mean the same) for maybe $5-$10. The only different is that it will not have the logo.

Cold.
Alansmithee2 m ago

These are literally watches that they pay a chinese box-shifter to stick a …These are literally watches that they pay a chinese box-shifter to stick a logo on. If you go onto Alibaba express, you'll be able to buy the same watch (I don't mean similar, I mean the same) for maybe $5-$10. The only different is that it will not have the logo.Cold.


Please show me photographic proof
coolio283 m ago

Please show me photographic proof


Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so you'll need to have a decent look on express:

alibaba.com/pro…Rks

This is the business model of pretty much all of the Daniel Wellington copies. They pick a design on Alibaba, pick a logo and away they go.

I'm pretty sure that you can pick up this particular model with the 'curren' branding on ebay for maybe £2 or £3.
Edited by: "Alansmithee" 14th Jan
Alansmithee2 m ago

Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so …Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so you'll need to have a decent look on express:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Polished-gold-plated-316L-stainless-steel_60281732139.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.74.4464565a4gURksThis is the business model of pretty much all of the Daniel Wellington copies. They pick a design on Alibaba, pick a logo and away they go.


Fair enough looks like you were right. Saved myself £100
Alansmithee31 m ago

Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so …Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so you'll need to have a decent look on express:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Polished-gold-plated-316L-stainless-steel_60281732139.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.74.4464565a4gURksThis is the business model of pretty much all of the Daniel Wellington copies. They pick a design on Alibaba, pick a logo and away they go.I'm pretty sure that you can pick up this particular model with the 'curren' branding on ebay for maybe £2 or £3.


I think you're massively mistaken. You think this company copied the design of some watch they saw on Alibaba rather than the other way around? I can categorically assure you that when Andrew set up Larsson & Jennings some 6 (?) years or so ago they designed these watches themselves. What you're basically saying is why buy Genuine when you can buy a fake one cheaper tha looks the same, but probably performs significantly differently.
Edited by: "Speedbirdjw" 14th Jan
Holy cow you can get a watch that looks like a Rolex here and I bet you it's JUST as good!!

m.alibaba.com/pro…soE
Even at £100, this watch represents poor value compared to Orient, Seiko, Timex etc. The quartz movement will literally cost pennies - £1-£2. Design is unoriginal.

Heat if you're in for this specific model as it is a deal but do your research at you can get yourself a watch with really horological significance for a similar price
Edited by: "ratty321" 14th Jan
Speedbirdjw15 m ago

I think you're massively mistaken. You think this company copied the …I think you're massively mistaken. You think this company copied the design of some watch they saw on Alibaba rather than the other way around? I can categorically assure you that when Andrew set up Larsson & Jennings some 6 (?) years or so ago they designed these watches themselves. What you're basically saying is why buy Genuine when you can buy a fake one cheaper tha looks the same, but probably performs significantly differently.


They're a Kickstarter start up and I guarantee that these are bought cheaply in bulk from China, with the branding applied and sold in the UK at a huge mark-up.

Look at MVMT, DW etc. Taking the exact same approach.
ratty32113 m ago

They're a Kickstarter start up and I guarantee that these are bought …They're a Kickstarter start up and I guarantee that these are bought cheaply in bulk from China, with the branding applied and sold in the UK at a huge mark-up.Look at MVMT, DW etc. Taking the exact same approach.


Well no still not the case. They're designed in their studio in London and then sent to Switzerland for manufacture. How hard is it for you to do a bit of research avoiding the need to make assumptions?

larssonandjennings.com/des…gn/
Speedbirdjw7 m ago

Well no still not the case. They're designed in their studio in London and …Well no still not the case. They're designed in their studio in London and then sent to Switzerland for manufacture. How hard is it for you to do a bit of research avoiding the need to make assumptions?https://www.larssonandjennings.com/designindetail/design/


You're actually right re. Kickstarter, so apologies due.

I appreciate you personally enjoy the brand/watch you've bought and that's fair enough. I'm not being critical of your taste.

Regardless, this is a fashion watch & it's hard to justify the cost for the quality and movement. It isn't good value.

Still, If youre into it - that's all that matters.
Alansmithee1 h, 16 m ago

Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so …Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so you'll need to have a decent look on express:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Polished-gold-plated-316L-stainless-steel_60281732139.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.74.4464565a4gURksThis is the business model of pretty much all of the Daniel Wellington copies. They pick a design on Alibaba, pick a logo and away they go.I'm pretty sure that you can pick up this particular model with the 'curren' branding on ebay for maybe £2 or £3.


Larsson & Jennings actually care about their manufacturing process and the quality of their items. The imitations started popping up on AliExpress etc. a few months after L&J released them. Don't get L&J confused with Daniel Wellington.
ratty32130 m ago

You're actually right re. Kickstarter, so apologies due.I appreciate you …You're actually right re. Kickstarter, so apologies due.I appreciate you personally enjoy the brand/watch you've bought and that's fair enough. I'm not being critical of your taste.Regardless, this is a fashion watch & it's hard to justify the cost for the quality and movement. It isn't good value.Still, If youre into it - that's all that matters.


No worries. I thought £78 (£57 after cashback) was pretty cheap for any watch regardless. Maybe it's not!? Haven't owned that many watches previously. You comment on the quality. Have you ever seen one in the flesh?
Edited by: "Speedbirdjw" 14th Jan
Alansmithee2 h, 12 m ago

Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so …Sure - I tend to deal in bulk rather than the consumer Alibaba express so you'll need to have a decent look on express:https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Polished-gold-plated-316L-stainless-steel_60281732139.html?spm=a2700.7724857.main07.74.4464565a4gURksThis is the business model of pretty much all of the Daniel Wellington copies. They pick a design on Alibaba, pick a logo and away they go.I'm pretty sure that you can pick up this particular model with the 'curren' branding on ebay for maybe £2 or £3.


I would be very cautious of a website (particularly one like that) using stock photographs and saying "this is what you're going to get".

There are too many stories of people buying items from cheap websites and finding out that the product they receive is nothing like the picture on the website.

You can even get something that looks like an Apple Watch for $1, again only stock photographs, but I'm sure it's totally legit!
Speedbirdjw52 m ago

No worries. I thought £78 (£57 after cashback) was pretty cheap for any w …No worries. I thought £78 (£57 after cashback) was pretty cheap for any watch regardless. Maybe it's not!? Haven't owned that many watches previously. You comment on the quality. Have you ever seen one in the flesh?


I've seen some of their mechanical pieces, but these are costed at £1,100 +. They look ok to be fair, but still - for a mechanical with an ETA...it's overpriced.

Well, it's it's an ok price but these watches are extremely cheap to manufacture because they use a basic quartz movement. Anything above £30 is purely going on the brand on the front.

Anything that can be halved in price & still make a profit for the manufacturer, you question the original RRP vs the cost to build.

Orient Bambino for £100 as a comparison and you're getting an in house automatic movement.
TBH the designs don't look particularly original at all. I'm surprised they're not paying Skagen royalties.
ratty3211 h, 8 m ago

Anything that can be halved in price & still make a profit for the …Anything that can be halved in price & still make a profit for the manufacturer, you question the original RRP vs the cost to build.


I would say that just about any product in the world (and I don't mean just watches, but anything from clothing to cars to food) would have a markup of at least 2x the cost of manufacture (normally it's more like 5x).

What still perplexes me is that people think it is purely about cost of manufacture and nothing else. No other overheads are considered (such as wages, premises, shipping etc). I've watched programmes about people creating new products and the price to make the item is low, but after all other overheads are considered it is very hard to make a profit.

Farms buy seeds, now a seed is worth 0.0001p but the item sold at 25p. Now that's a lot of markup, well it is if you exclude all overheads.
mrxboxps330 m ago

I would say that just about any product in the world (and I don't mean …I would say that just about any product in the world (and I don't mean just watches, but anything from clothing to cars to food) would have a markup of at least 2x the cost of manufacture (normally it's more like 5x).What still perplexes me is that people think it is purely about cost of manufacture and nothing else. No other overheads are considered (such as wages, premises, shipping etc). I've watched programmes about people creating new products and the price to make the item is low, but after all other overheads are considered it is very hard to make a profit.Farms buy seeds, now a seed is worth 0.0001p but the item sold at 25p. Now that's a lot of markup, well it is if you exclude all overheads.


I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in house movement can be produced in a watch that costs £70-£100 (Seiko 5) which is far far more complex to build,

and a quartz watch which is far cheaper to produce is RRP at £150-£400 (MVMT, DW... etc) you have to question the value.

You will rarely see automatic watches discounted above 20%, usually because you're paying for something that holds value for what it actually is, instead of the brand it has on the front.
ratty32114 m ago

I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in …I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in house movement can be produced in a watch that costs £70-£100 (Seiko 5) which is far far more complex to build, and a quartz watch which is far cheaper to produce is RRP at £150-£400 (MVMT, DW... etc) you have to question the value.You will rarely see automatic watches discounted above 20%, usually because you're paying for something that holds value for what it actually is, instead of the brand it has on the front.


This is what's wrong with this forum!

Dude/woman posts iPhone deal and opens the debate of what's best, android or Apple.

Dude posts BA deal and opens up the debate of what's best, Ryanair or BA.

How about dude posts iPhone deal and if you can't find an iPhone cheaper elsewhere then just accept it's a good deal and if you want to buy said deal...crack on!!

Might start being a look and not post member like most people on here.
ratty32133 m ago

I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in …I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in house movement can be produced in a watch that costs £70-£100 (Seiko 5) which is far far more complex to build, and a quartz watch which is far cheaper to produce is RRP at £150-£400 (MVMT, DW... etc) you have to question the value.You will rarely see automatic watches discounted above 20%, usually because you're paying for something that holds value for what it actually is, instead of the brand it has on the front.


Don't know why you're giving quartz such a bad rep. Loads of decent watches use a quartz. Seiko 9F. Citizen eco drive one. Omega space master. Breitling Exospace. To name a few.
ratty3211 h, 42 m ago

I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in …I appreciate where you're coming from, but considering an automatic in house movement can be produced in a watch that costs £70-£100 (Seiko 5) which is far far more complex to build, and a quartz watch which is far cheaper to produce is RRP at £150-£400 (MVMT, DW... etc) you have to question the value.You will rarely see automatic watches discounted above 20%, usually because you're paying for something that holds value for what it actually is, instead of the brand it has on the front.


The watch you mentioned is discounted by 40% by some retailers. (Hardly "they don't lose value").

This is typical of many people who post on here and you've fallen into the same trap too. You seem to be under the impression that Seiko aren't making the same percentage of profit as anyone else and that they're doing you a favour by selling it cheaply. And you've found this amazing deal. I've seen people think the same with, say, Primark clothing, yet that company makes massive profits, but everyone falls into the trap that the company isn't making much money and is selling that stuff at those prices out of the kindness of their own hearts.

And you're still stuck on this idea of purely the cost of manufacture, you completely forget other overheads. Those are included in the price you pay. A larger company can reduce overheads, smaller ones can't. If it was that easy to make money everyone would be doing it.

The only thing in the world I can think of that is sold at a loss is games consoles, but the money is made afterwards with the sales on games.
mrxboxps318 h, 49 m ago

The watch you mentioned is discounted by 40% by some retailers. (Hardly …The watch you mentioned is discounted by 40% by some retailers. (Hardly "they don't lose value").This is typical of many people who post on here and you've fallen into the same trap too. You seem to be under the impression that Seiko aren't making the same percentage of profit as anyone else and that they're doing you a favour by selling it cheaply. And you've found this amazing deal. I've seen people think the same with, say, Primark clothing, yet that company makes massive profits, but everyone falls into the trap that the company isn't making much money and is selling that stuff at those prices out of the kindness of their own hearts.And you're still stuck on this idea of purely the cost of manufacture, you completely forget other overheads. Those are included in the price you pay. A larger company can reduce overheads, smaller ones can't. If it was that easy to make money everyone would be doing it.The only thing in the world I can think of that is sold at a loss is games consoles, but the money is made afterwards with the sales on games.


Well said. I guess the sameness Business model could be said for electric toothbrushes, Gillette razor handles, coffee machines, printers etc to entice you into the consumables later. Though possibly at a break even rather than loss
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