Lenovo IdeaCentre 510 Family PC - Intel G4560 / 8GB Ram / AMD RX560 4GB / 1TB HDD £399.99 @ Lenovo
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Lenovo IdeaCentre 510 Family PC - Intel G4560 / 8GB Ram / AMD RX560 4GB / 1TB HDD £399.99 @ Lenovo

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Found 19th Jan
Currently down from £549.99 to £399.99 - for those who missed out on it being £349.99 on Black Friday (which didn't last long!). Comes with keyboard and mouse. Good for online gaming, video editing and other graphic intensive tasks. Runs well with games such as Planet Coaster (Medium to High settings), Civilization VI and Football Manager.

Processor Intel Pentium G4560 Processor ( 3.50GHz 2400MHz 3MB )
Operating System Windows 10 Home 64
Memory 8.0GB PC4-19200 DDR4 UDIMM 2400MHz
Hard Drive 1TB 7200 rpm
Optical Drive DVD Recordable
Warranty One year Depot or Carry-in
Graphics AMD RX 560 4GB GDDR5
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fiqqer3 m ago

Taking just the processor score is not relevant with this. You need to …Taking just the processor score is not relevant with this. You need to factor in the graphics card as well as the processor. The overall experience will be similar to an I5 with the inbuilt graphics card. Where this stands on its own is with graphic intensive functions - ie working with videos and graphics tools. This will then be much better than an I5. So for general day to day use an I5 would be better. For games this will be on par with an I5. For graphic intensive tasks this will be far better.




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ollie8720 m ago

Lol, yeah sure it will.Let me throw my 1070 Ti away and buy a RX 560.


What's EndlessWaves' comment got anything to do with what graphics card you've got?
Ok guys I build pc’s everyday and this isn’t a bad deal at all. It’s a kabylake 7th gen Intel processor, equivalent to a previous gen i3. It has 8gb ddr4 and a respectable RX 560 with 4gb dedicated memory. It will play all modern games at low to medium settings at 30fps minimum. The graphics card is £150 on its own, cpu around £70, ram £60, hdd £45, dvd rw £25, case £40, motherboard £40. It would cost you more in parts and this doesn’t include the windows 10 operation g system retailing at £79.99. This machine is perfect for anybody wanting a new pc and fancies some light gaming. Deal in my opinion, the RX 560 with 4gb ddr5 is the sweet spot on this pc. It’s a solid system with good dedicated graphics on the newer ddr4 platform. You would be pushed to find a pc of this spec cheaper.
Edited by: "jam6813" 22nd Jan
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An RX 560 will run any game you throw at it.
Thanks
How do these processors compare with an i5?

I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570


G4560 = 4913 benchmark result

i5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088

That seems quite a big difference?
EndlessWaves30 m ago

An RX 560 will run any game you throw at it.


At 720p certainly. 1080p and higher settings it will struggle to attain 60fps.
gezza1023 m ago

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?


gezza1053 m ago

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?


G4560 is dual core with hyperthreading to appear as 4 cores.
i5 4570 is quad core with no hyperthreading.

G4560 3.5Ghz vs i5 3.2Ghz base 3.6Ghz boost
the higher boost speed probably means it matches / exceeds the pentium even on single core tasks
gezza1054 m ago

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?


Edited: covered in an above comment.

This PC should get you at least on par with a normal PS4 in terms of overall gaming experience, maybe a little better - keep in mind console games are often locked to 30fps, not 60.
Edited by: "andreprashad" 19th Jan
gezza101 h, 20 m ago

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?



Taking just the processor score is not relevant with this. You need to factor in the graphics card as well as the processor. The overall experience will be similar to an I5 with the inbuilt graphics card. Where this stands on its own is with graphic intensive functions - ie working with videos and graphics tools. This will then be much better than an I5.

So for general day to day use an I5 would be better. For games this will be better than an I5. For graphic intensive tasks this will be far better. It is the equivalent of the Geoforce GTX 1050
Edited by: "fiqqer" 19th Jan
fiqqer3 m ago

Taking just the processor score is not relevant with this. You need to …Taking just the processor score is not relevant with this. You need to factor in the graphics card as well as the processor. The overall experience will be similar to an I5 with the inbuilt graphics card. Where this stands on its own is with graphic intensive functions - ie working with videos and graphics tools. This will then be much better than an I5. So for general day to day use an I5 would be better. For games this will be on par with an I5. For graphic intensive tasks this will be far better.




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Blurigard19th Jan

At 720p certainly. 1080p and higher settings it will struggle to attain …At 720p certainly. 1080p and higher settings it will struggle to attain 60fps.


It's not a card for those who want all the extra graphical curlicues and super ultra quality, but you'll struggle to find anything where it doesn't have enough power to let you enjoy the game.

And yes, it will do 60fps at 1920x1080 in all but a few very demanding games. It may 'only' do something like 45fps in games like ARC but that's still a perfectly enjoyable experience.
gezza1019th Jan

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?


For that benchmark certainly, whatever it is. How they'll compare in real life depends on what you're doing with them.

Generally the G4560 is similar in performance to a top of the range laptop processor like an i7-7500U so loads of power for most things. If you're doing something CPU heavy that can use four cores the desktop i5s are a faster processor.

If an i5 would benefit you then it's worth waiting for the 8000 models to come to cheap pre-builts as they have a good performance bump from a couple of extra cores.
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It's got HHD spinning, even I know that's a hindrance.
graphics card worth £140 ? not bad for a new machine
I thought Lenovo had got into selling fridge/freezers at first look.
Edited by: "Murtin" 19th Jan
Seems like a good price.

and if you’re not happy with the processor you can just upgrade it.
EndlessWaves3 h, 21 m ago

An RX 560 will run any game you throw at it.


Lol, yeah sure it will.
Edited by: "ollie87" 19th Jan
Looks good, similar to my build made last year, although I opted for an SSD
ollie8720 m ago

Lol, yeah sure it will.Let me throw my 1070 Ti away and buy a RX 560.


What's EndlessWaves' comment got anything to do with what graphics card you've got?
Familyguy19828 m ago

What's EndlessWaves' comment got anything to do with what graphics card …What's EndlessWaves' comment got anything to do with what graphics card you've got?


Why spend so much money if a RX 560 is all I'd ever need?

Because it's a load of crap, the RX 560 is a weak card for eSports titles. AMD even markets it as-such. It would be a great card in 2013 but in 2018 it's not powerful enough "run anything you can throw at it".

I'd love for more people to take up PC gaming, but you need to manage expectations at this end of the market.
Edited by: "ollie87" 19th Jan
deleted133685719th Jan

It's got HHD spinning, even I know that's a hindrance.


Yeah, no
£400 for a 4 year old dual core cpu and a poor excuse for gaming card? Pass.
Even though this is a deal it makes me realise how much we get ripped off in the UK, I saw $399 deal on an American site which had an i5-7400 and 1060.
Hopefully one day our currency will get stronger and the prices will come down.
ollie8736 m ago

Why spend so much money if a RX 560 is all I'd ever need?Because it's a …Why spend so much money if a RX 560 is all I'd ever need?Because it's a load of crap, the RX 560 is a weak card for eSports titles. AMD even markets it as-such. It would be a great card in 2013 but in 2018 it's not powerful enough "run anything you can throw at it".I'd love for more people to take up PC gaming, but you need to manage expectations at this end of the market.


Fair enough, but some people's needs/expectations might be less than yours!
gezza103 h, 53 m ago

How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's …How do these processors compare with an i5?I don't know much about pc's but did a benchmark test and the G4560 seems to score a much lower score than say an i5 4570 G4560 = 4913 benchmark resulti5 4570 (3.2 ghz) = 7088 That seems quite a big difference?


I think you can over click the hell out of it and get i3 performance.

worth a google
Edited by: "crazygoldfish" 19th Jan
The G4560 is amazing for the money (paid under £50 for mine) along with an RX480 and for 1080p gaming its amazing,

I can only compare Overwatch on Xbox one s VS PC but the PC blows the console version out of the water.

Cracking price imo...heat.
Edited by: "utopiangames" 19th Jan
CosminD8319th Jan

£400 for a 4 year old dual core cpu and a poor excuse for gaming card? …£400 for a 4 year old dual core cpu and a poor excuse for gaming card? Pass.

Blurigard19th Jan

At 720p certainly. 1080p and higher settings it will struggle to attain …At 720p certainly. 1080p and higher settings it will struggle to attain 60fps.



at 1080 on medium settings it achieves an average of 42- 52 fps depending on the game. Which for me is still good enough.
Edited by: "fiqqer" 19th Jan
Not bad, but anything over 300 and you should be ideally aiming for an SSD, the experience on a HDD will just diminish bit by bit over the first few months, there's patience and there's saving seconds and minutes of your life.
Edited by: "dezontk" 19th Jan
crazygoldfish40 m ago

I think you can over click the hell out of it and get i3 performance.worth …I think you can over click the hell out of it and get i3 performance.worth a google


No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier locked so overclocking isn't possible.

CosminD831 h, 13 m ago

£400 for a 4 year old dual core cpu


You've fallen into Intel's marketing trap there. The G4560 is a Kaby Lake processor released in January 2017. Essentially an i3-7100 without AVX support (which isn't widely used by games).

ollie871 h, 40 m ago

Why spend so much money if a RX 560 is all I'd ever need?Because it's a …Why spend so much money if a RX 560 is all I'd ever need?Because it's a load of crap, the RX 560 is a weak card for eSports titles. AMD even markets it as-such. It would be a great card in 2013 but in 2018 it's not powerful enough "run anything you can throw at it".I'd love for more people to take up PC gaming, but you need to manage expectations at this end of the market.


Prove it. Name me a a couple of games an RX 560 4GB won't run decently (i.e. 30fps+ at 1920x1080). I think you'll struggle to find any.
iamiguel1 h, 13 m ago

Even though this is a deal it makes me realise how much we get ripped off …Even though this is a deal it makes me realise how much we get ripped off in the UK, I saw $399 deal on an American site which had an i5-7400 and 1060.Hopefully one day our currency will get stronger and the prices will come down.


The pound has become stronger, they're not promoting the upward movement, like the previous downward trend of course...

Even if everything was equal, we have that pesky 20% VAT.

I always bought my computer equipment in the USA. One of the perks of living and working there over the years.
Edited by: "gtd65" 19th Jan
EndlessWaves7 m ago

No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier …No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier locked so overclocking isn't possible.You've fallen into Intel's marketing trap there. The G4560 is a Kaby Lake processor released in January 2017. Essentially an i3-7100 without AVX support (which isn't widely used by games).Prove it. Name me a a couple of games an RX 560 4GB won't run decently (i.e. 30fps+ at 1920x1080). I think you'll struggle to find any.


Love this guy's attitude, getting all the silly casuals told.
EndlessWaves31 m ago

No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier …No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier locked so overclocking isn't possible.You've fallen into Intel's marketing trap there. The G4560 is a Kaby Lake processor released in January 2017. Essentially an i3-7100 without AVX support (which isn't widely used by games).Prove it. Name me a a couple of games an RX 560 4GB won't run decently (i.e. 30fps+ at 1920x1080). I think you'll struggle to find any.


30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your expectations is to lower them”.

Might as-well get an Xbox if your gaming expectations are so low.
Edited by: "ollie87" 19th Jan
ollie879 m ago

30fps isn't playable.Might as-well get an Xbox.


Avatar quote?
This post isn't even bad parody.
EndlessWaves44 m ago

No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier …No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier locked so overclocking isn't possible.You've fallen into Intel's marketing trap there. The G4560 is a Kaby Lake processor released in January 2017. Essentially an i3-7100 without AVX support (which isn't widely used by games).Prove it. Name me a a couple of games an RX 560 4GB won't run decently (i.e. 30fps+ at 1920x1080). I think you'll struggle to find any.


Ah fair enough, my bad
EndlessWaves45 m ago

No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier …No, that was the G3258 Pentium Anniversary Edition. This one is multiplier locked so overclocking isn't possible.You've fallen into Intel's marketing trap there. The G4560 is a Kaby Lake processor released in January 2017. Essentially an i3-7100 without AVX support (which isn't widely used by games).Prove it. Name me a a couple of games an RX 560 4GB won't run decently (i.e. 30fps+ at 1920x1080). I think you'll struggle to find any.


Yup, you are right. My bad. I was under the impression is the Haswell refresh LGA1150 Pentium, which is not the case.
zxcanning43 m ago

Love this guy's attitude, getting all the silly casuals told.


Bit harsh, they are taken the time to give the readers some important information that may help them decide.
ollie8731 m ago

30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your exp …30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your expectations is to lower them”.Might as-well get an Xbox if your gaming expectations are so low.


Spoken like a true pc elitist.

30fps 1080p maybe the only option for some people. Causal gamer would be perfectly happy with that
Terrible processor, no SSD. I fail to see the good deal?
EndlessWaves6 h, 0 m ago

An RX 560 will run any game you throw at it.


No, no it won’t.
Could you do VR with this PC?
Jonnyblock4 m ago

Could you do VR with this PC?


Not with the rx560 (I have an rx 470 and 4 or 5 is the year but 60 or 70 the power) but you could upgrade in the future
bulletfoss19 m ago

No, no it won’t.


Again, prove it.

It's very difficult for me to prove that every game ever will work on an RX 560. I can link to a recent review showing it running a variety of popular titles run just fine but there's no way I can prove that everything does.

Disproving it is easy enough, just find a few games that won't run.

ollie8759 m ago

30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your exp …30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your expectations is to lower them”.Might as-well get an Xbox if your gaming expectations are so low.


Not just casual gamers either, most gamers who aren't bothered about image quality. There are a few genres like twitch shooters that would benefit from more frame rate

ollie8759 m ago

30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your exp …30fps isn't playable. It’s like saying “the best way to meet your expectations is to lower them”.Might as-well get an Xbox if your gaming expectations are so low.


So the standard performance on the gaming platform of choice of tens of millions of people is 'unplayable'?

If you want to hold such high expectations then go for it, but it's a bit unreasonable to drop comments based on those usual expectations without explaining your views.

Looking to game on a PC doesn't automatically mean you're after better graphics. There are huge numbers of games you can only play on the PC. Strategy games are the main reason I'm a PC gamer, because there aren't many of them anywhere else.
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