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Lenovo T430 Laptop / i7-3520M / 8GB Ram / 256GB SSD / DVD-RW /14" / Windows 10 / Grade B Used £240 @ CeX
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Lenovo T430 Laptop / i7-3520M / 8GB Ram / 256GB SSD / DVD-RW /14" / Windows 10 / Grade B Used £240 @ CeX

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Posted 27th Oct
Seems a pretty good price! Although Used, it's Grade B which means it's in "Good" quality, but may not come with original packaging.

I believe the resolution of the screen will be 1600x900 , but some of these models do have 1366x768 .
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How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops at this price range.
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How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops at this price range.
quertbarbie6227/10/2019 04:24

How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops …How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops at this price range.



Agreed and the resolution is nothing short of shocking
Must be like 10 years old, check Itzoo before you commit.
Very cold and bad deal...
I don’t know why anyone would want one of these. It will be horrifically heavy. And slow.
I have loads of ThinkPads at home and have been using them for around twenty years, my daily driver is a W530 and the kids have X230's, these are okay for daily use but starting to show their age and there's no way I'd pay £240 for a T430 now, that's really expensive! Overpriced just because it has a very old i7 in it.
Edited by: "fat-pudding" 27th Oct
Lots of complaints with zero links to a better deal.
Daniel4227/10/2019 07:45

Lots of complaints with zero links to a better deal.


They don't need to link to "better deals" they are stating what should be clear to most that this is just overpriced old junk.

The older i7's ran very hot in laptops too.
Better deals on ebay like:

ebay.co.uk/itm…wW0

I bought cheaper. this laptop that i write this on was around £129 (i7-3720QM @ 2.6)
Edited by: "Rod_SmithmPK" 27th Oct
Carson_Official27/10/2019 07:53

They don't need to link to "better deals" they are stating what should be …They don't need to link to "better deals" they are stating what should be clear to most that this is just overpriced old junk.The older i7's ran very hot in laptops too.


What a weird comment. He didn't "need" to post this deal either. Completely useless! .
Edited by: "Daniel42" 27th Oct
quertbarbie6227/10/2019 04:24

How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops …How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops at this price range.


It's still faster than my 2014 i5 4210U.
While the CPU is fairly decent for a mobile, the whole age of the laptop would be my concern, I'd probably go for something like this from ITZoo for less money Lenovo x250 with 5th gen 5300u cpu and smaller SSD for £149
itzoo.co.uk/col…-17
quertbarbie6227/10/2019 04:24

How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops …How is this not cold? Even an i3 8130u beats this i7. You can i3 laptops at this price range.


Probably because this CPU still holds up fine (only 9% worse then the i3), it has a decent sized SSD which will make the CPU hold up, 8GB of RAM which is also a good seller, and overall isn't too expensive for what it is.

It's just a shame the resolution won't be 1080p, but on a 14" screen that doesn't really matter anyway.

I'm not saying this is the best laptop at this price but I certainly wouldn't say it's a very bad deal.
Edited by: "ArcAndPie" 27th Oct
I have a T430 with an i5. Still going strong. I can find cheaper, but with i5, 4gb and no SSD. The Elitebook linked to above on ebay is a good price though. All depends which brand you prefer.
ArcAndPie27/10/2019 09:29

Probably because this CPU still holds up fine (only 9% worse then the i3), …Probably because this CPU still holds up fine (only 9% worse then the i3), it has a decent sized SSD which will make the CPU hold up, 8GB of RAM which is also a good seller, and overall isn't too expensive for what it is.It's just a shame the resolution won't be 1080p, but on a 14" screen that doesn't really matter anyway.I'm not saying this is the best laptop at this price but I certainly wouldn't say it's a very bad deal.


SSD costs £25 new, RAM £15 at CeX. CPU is OK but won’t hold up against a modern i3. And you can even tell the difference between 720p (or 768p) and 1080p on a smartphone, let alone a 14” screen.
Edited by: "sivthasan" 27th Oct
sivthasan27/10/2019 09:35

SSD costs £25 new, RAM £15 at CeX. CPU is OK but won’t hold up against a mo …SSD costs £25 new, RAM £15 at CeX. CPU is OK but won’t hold up against a modern i3. And you can even tell the difference between 720p (or 768p) and 1080p on a smartphone, let alone a 14” screen.


Good thing this laptop would be 768p minimum , but most likely 900p.

Also I would very much doubt you would find a huge difference between 720p and 1080p on a 5" or so phone screen.

The PPI is way too high on such small screens to see such differences.
spannerzone27/10/2019 08:53

While the CPU is fairly decent for a mobile, the whole age of the laptop …While the CPU is fairly decent for a mobile, the whole age of the laptop would be my concern, I'd probably go for something like this from ITZoo for less money Lenovo x250 with 5th gen 5300u cpu and smaller SSD for £149https://itzoo.co.uk/collections/cheap-lenovo-laptops/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x250-laptop-i5-2-3ghz-180gb-ssd-windows-17


These are mainly used by the NHS, we have only one left on our ward now. Yes they maybe good but these also have issues. The clips for the battery break meaning you have to tape it up. Oh and if the battery overheats it warps the case. Now saying the faults it's still a great fast little laptop for home use. The NHS basically has to pay to get rid of these which is a shame.
I'd give £100 at a stretch but the screens on these are so bad I'd have to pay someone else to operate it for me. Thinkpads of this vintage have the worst screens I have seen on any laptop of any age.

Just cos it's 'business' doesn't mean business people want to be turned blind staring into a milky, blurred swamp of vagueness.
6 year old laptop. Freezing cold
BorisBear27/10/2019 09:51

6 year old laptop. Freezing cold


Seems the quiet majority disagrees, but each to their own!
ArcAndPie27/10/2019 09:29

Probably because this CPU still holds up fine (only 9% worse then the i3), …Probably because this CPU still holds up fine (only 9% worse then the i3), it has a decent sized SSD which will make the CPU hold up, 8GB of RAM which is also a good seller, and overall isn't too expensive for what it is.It's just a shame the resolution won't be 1080p, but on a 14" screen that doesn't really matter anyway.I'm not saying this is the best laptop at this price but I certainly wouldn't say it's a very bad deal.


it may not be too expensive but not cheap either, as I stated earlier, you can get a year old i3 laptop for the same price, which will be more efficient, and a battery you can trust. If you had this, yes you can say you don't need the new i3 as your system can par up to that but if you are buying one, the i3 would be a more preferable choice. my pc still uses i7-4790K and it still runs well and don't need to upgrade, but if i would buy a new system today, and the choice is between i7-4790k vs i3- 8350K i would go for the i3.
quertbarbie6227/10/2019 10:40

it may not be too expensive but not cheap either, as I stated earlier, you …it may not be too expensive but not cheap either, as I stated earlier, you can get a year old i3 laptop for the same price, which will be more efficient, and a battery you can trust. If you had this, yes you can say you don't need the new i3 as your system can par up to that but if you are buying one, the i3 would be a more preferable choice. my pc still uses i7-4790K and it still runs well and don't need to upgrade, but if i would buy a new system today, and the choice is between i7-4790k vs i3- 8350K i would go for the i3.


Sure, I can completely see your point, but I still wouldn't say this deal is a very bad deal overall.

It might not be as good as the one you're suggesting, though.
BorisBear27/10/2019 09:51

6 year old laptop. Freezing cold


Try 7 years old, it came out in 2012!
aLV42627/10/2019 10:45

Try 7 years old, it came out in 2012!


It's a bit of a silly argument when theres a good SSD inside.

For example, my mums old laptop is 10 years old, maybe more, and has a bad CPU in it now, but I replaced the HDD with a SSD and it was brought back to life and doesn't seem slow at all

So this laptop won't feel slow either, especially since the CPU still actually holds up.
T430’s & T440’s are dog poo, don’t buy. Unfortunately for many in my company they are still using these. T430 has terrible mouse pad, keyboard that is prone to breaking / keys falling off, terrible screen, poor battery life, rubber finish that are starting to go manky even when not damaged.

T440’s have keyboard where letters rub off super easily, a line that develops on most units (and eventually gets worse) down screen, heavy, poor battery life with standard battery, hinge much weaker than t430 along with chassis that when even slightly bumped can come open at the side.

Many more issues I see but not one person I know has ever been happy in my company with either models.

T420 wasn’t too bad but ancient (certainly better than T430). T450’s onwards are better with regards to most of the above but feel even cheaper build quality. Although at least that rubbery finish is only on the sides, which guess what rubs off and looks a mess.

I have a top end T460p and must say apart from the keyboard (which I still think has too much travel) I struggle to see why people like them so much. Nothing special for what they are, apart from ability to take a couple more knocks in transit than other brands lower end models.
Edited by: "gary333" 27th Oct
ArcAndPie27/10/2019 10:02

Seems the quiet majority disagrees, but each to their own!


That’s fine mate but I buy laptops for a living and know about them than the ‘quiet majority’.

its a very poor deal on an old laptop with an ancient generation processor.
BorisBear27/10/2019 11:04

That’s fine mate but I buy laptops for a living and know about them than t …That’s fine mate but I buy laptops for a living and know about them than the ‘quiet majority’.its a very poor deal on an old laptop with an ancient generation processor.


Exactly. I even worked in "pc refurbishing" company in Poland and we've been selling these few years ago cheaper than that not to mention that buying price was around 30gbp with SSD inside. So yes. Do not buy it, despite competition on the market, just taking into account old CPU (not saying about speed in mhz, but tech inside, support for hardware decoding etc., stuff which actually make your pc fast) and the fact used T-series got plenty of building/usage issues, battery clip is not the only one.
BorisBear27/10/2019 11:04

That’s fine mate but I buy laptops for a living and know about them than t …That’s fine mate but I buy laptops for a living and know about them than the ‘quiet majority’.its a very poor deal on an old laptop with an ancient generation processor.


That's your opinion and you're entitled to it!

Have a nice day
fat-pudding27/10/2019 07:32

I have loads of ThinkPads at home and have been using them for around …I have loads of ThinkPads at home and have been using them for around twenty years, my daily driver is a W530 and the kids have X230's, these are okay for daily use but starting to show their age and there's no way I'd pay £240 for a T430 now, that's really expensive! Overpriced just because it has a very old i7 in it.



These are still great options for many people that want a cheap but rugged system to do the usual productivity tasks on.

However as an otherwise happy X230 owner, one of my needs is a system that can handle Blender 2.8s Eevee renderer. And anything that has vaguely modern graphics requirements will need at least Haswell-era Intel Graphics. My X230s crummy HD 4000 iGPU just causes Blender to crash.

So for my use case this ThinkPad just wouldn't cut it. More applications require newer instruction sets both on GPUs and CPUs and this means these old systems just aren't suitable. So for those in my kind of situation, some kind of xx40 ThinkPad range is a bare minimum.

But for those with simpler requirements, 220/230/420/430/520/530 range ThinkPads are probably still hitting just the right price to performance ratio for a used laptop purchase.
But having made that rant - sorry everyone - as for this deal it is utter garbage. Way overpriced, shady dishonest seller, underspecced for the money. Super cold.
chischis28/10/2019 14:23

But having made that rant - sorry everyone - as for this deal it is utter …But having made that rant - sorry everyone - as for this deal it is utter garbage. Way overpriced, shady dishonest seller, underspecced for the money. Super cold.


Thanks for your opinion
chischis28/10/2019 14:21

These are still great options for many people that want a cheap but rugged …These are still great options for many people that want a cheap but rugged system to do the usual productivity tasks on.


I wouldn't disagree with that but the overall age of the 30 series means they are not worth a lot of money now, especially when I see the ??30 series of Thinkpads selling for £100 on Facebook marketplace something like this for £240 is overpriced. Looking back I paid £1000 for a brand new W530 in 2013 which came with SSD and 8GB of RAM and full HD screen and £800 for a brand new P52s a month or two ago for my partner, £240 for this when it's not going to have that much life left in it is too much money, I was buying refurb T430's (without the i7 I admit) to give to developers 3 years ago for £200-£250, they are just not worth that much money now.
fat-pudding28/10/2019 14:31

I wouldn't disagree with that but the overall age of the 30 series means …I wouldn't disagree with that but the overall age of the 30 series means they are not worth a lot of money now, especially when I see the ??30 series of Thinkpads selling for £100 on Facebook marketplace something like this for £240 is overpriced. Looking back I paid £1000 for a brand new W530 in 2013 which came with SSD and 8GB of RAM and full HD screen and £800 for a brand new P52s a month or two ago for my partner, £240 for this when it's not going to have that much life left in it is too much money, I was buying refurb T430's (without the i7 I admit) to give to developers 3 years ago for £200-£250, they are just not worth that much money now.



I agree the sandy / ivy bridge era ThinkPads are getting a touch long in the tooth now, and they are certainly not worth £200+. But they are available at half that if one keeps an eye out, and that makes them - like I said - good options for basic productivity machines. But I agree, I would not want to pay much for them. Close to £100 as possible.
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