Lenovo ThinkServer TS150 £119.97 - Laptops Direct
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Lenovo ThinkServer TS150 £119.97 - Laptops Direct

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Found 27th Nov
pretty good deal i think for entry server or nas drive. 2% quidco plus £2.50 quidco bonus too. No HDD though.

  • Processor - Intel Pentium G4400
  • RAM - 8 GB
  • Operating System - No operating system
  • Optical Drive - DVD-Writer
  • Warranty - 1 year warranty

32 Comments

Hot deal, you can't buy the bits and build yourself for this price I suspect.

If the picture of the back of this server is to be believed then this has an OB NIC and a dual port PCI NIC as well.

No mention of it in the specs though......

I have been looking for a deal on the Xeon model but have not seen one alas. Just saying.

No OS and no caddys, 12.5kg , so pound for pound, a bargain. 8gb of ram is good.

tawse578 m ago

I have been looking for a deal on the Xeon model but have not seen one …I have been looking for a deal on the Xeon model but have not seen one alas. Just saying.


I had the same with a Dell server I bought, in the end I bought the Pentium dual core model and a used XEON CPU from eBay....worked out quite a bit cheaper...

Uridium2 m ago

I had the same with a Dell server I bought, in the end I bought the …I had the same with a Dell server I bought, in the end I bought the Pentium dual core model and a used XEON CPU from eBay....worked out quite a bit cheaper...




I didn't realise that you could put a XEON processor into this Lenovo ThinkServer or into the Dells? Interesting.

I am surprised that you say it works out cheaper though. Some of the Lenovo ThinkServer TS140 deals earlier this year were going for as little as £250. Can you get a XEON CPU to fit these for about £150? Curious now :-)

tawse578 m ago

I didn't realise that you could put a XEON processor into this Lenovo …I didn't realise that you could put a XEON processor into this Lenovo ThinkServer or into the Dells? Interesting.I am surprised that you say it works out cheaper though. Some of the Lenovo ThinkServer TS140 deals earlier this year were going for as little as £250. Can you get a XEON CPU to fit these for about £150? Curious now :-)



forums.lenovo.com/t5/…357


Come to think of it I think it was actually an older HP ML100 series server I upgraded last year not my Dell but I replaced a Pentium dual core with a compatible Xeon E3-12xx that I picked up on ebay for £55 (I think it was an older V2 or V3 Xeon though)....

Maybe worth a look though to see how much you can pickup a Xeon E3-12xxv5 for though....

quick ebay search....ebay.co.uk/itm…922?hash=item4b2eac63fa:g:sHkAAOSwfVhaGunx
Edited by: "Uridium" 27th Nov

Uridium9 m ago

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkServer/TS150-CPU-upgrade-to-Kaby-Lake-from-Skylake/td-p/3769357Come to think of it I think it was actually an older HP ML100 series server I upgraded last year not my Dell but I replaced a Pentium dual core with a compatible Xeon E3-12xx that I picked up on ebay for £55 (I think it was an older V2 or V3 Xeon though)....Maybe worth a look though to see how much you can pickup a Xeon E3-12xxv5 for though....quick ebay search....https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon-E3-1220-V5-3-0GHz-LGA-1151-Skylake-CPU-processor-SR2LG/322905596922?hash=item4b2eac63fa:g:sHkAAOSwfVhaGunx




Thanks - so it is a specific bios update.

Food for thought as I was looking at this TS140 pentium about 5 this morning and wondering whether it would suit for a basic internet surfing / word processing desktop. Then I had an argument with myself about needing a XEON so the flexibility to upgrade is interesting.

GwanGy30 m ago

No OS and no caddys, 12.5kg , so pound for pound, a bargain. 8gb of ram is …No OS and no caddys, 12.5kg , so pound for pound, a bargain. 8gb of ram is good.


no caddys and no 3.5" HDD mounting kit is a killer imho. It does not come with the blue HDD caddies that are shown on Lenovo's site:
www3.lenovo.com/gb/…50V

And there are some pretty angry customers:
forums.lenovo.com/t5/…658

I've bought a TS150 a few weeks ago (for about the same price). I've never seen such a rip-off and badly built server before. And yes, I've had plenty of home servers for £100-£200 before. This comes without HDD mounting kit and only has one PSU cable to connect up to 3x SATA. Heck Lenovo even didn't supply a power cable!

All the bits you need to make it work are explicitly non-standard so you cannot buy off the shelf ATX supplies. For example, the PSU doesn't have any spare connectors. The PSU only connects to the motherboard. On the motherboard there is a special connector (looks like an ATX 4 pin connector?) that attaches to 3x SATA power. You may need another cable as the provided cable is quite short. I think these are the right ones: moddiy.com/pro…tml

But the worst is clearly the missing HDD mounting kit. How are you supposed to install any HDD without this?

Avoid. Buy Dell or HP.

Original Poster

any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, remote torrent client and ofc remotely nas drive share.

jomay13 m ago

no caddys and no 3.5" HDD mounting kit is a killer imho. It does not come …no caddys and no 3.5" HDD mounting kit is a killer imho. It does not come with the blue HDD caddies that are shown on Lenovo's site:https://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/data-center/servers/towers/ThinkServer-TS150/p/77LS7TS150VAnd there are some pretty angry customers:https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkServer/TS150/td-p/3598658I've bought a TS150 a few weeks ago (for about the same price). I've never seen such a rip-off and badly built server before. And yes, I've had plenty of home servers for £100-£200 before. This comes without HDD mounting kit and only has one PSU cable to connect up to 3x SATA. Heck Lenovo even didn't supply a power cable!All the bits you need to make it work are explicitly non-standard so you cannot buy off the shelf ATX supplies. For example, the PSU doesn't have any spare connectors. The PSU only connects to the motherboard. On the motherboard there is a special connector (looks like an ATX 4 pin connector?) that attaches to 3x SATA power. You may need another cable as the provided cable is quite short. I think these are the right ones: https://www.moddiy.com/products/Original-IBM-Lenovo-Mini-4%2dPin-to-2-x-SATA-Power-Sleeved-Cable-(40cm).htmlBut the worst is clearly the missing HDD mounting kit. How are you supposed to install any HDD without this?Avoid. Buy Dell or HP.


Thats pretty poor, I agree avoid if thats the case.

I still think the last of the Great home tower servers was the HP ML110, If you can find a cheap new/nearly new one on Ebay £100 will buy you a Pentium dual core G6/G7 with Xeon upgrade potential along with Dual gigabit NIC's, 4x 5.25" SATA Bays, room for 3+ 3.5" drives in place of the DVD and a proper HP ILO card for lights out management.

I've had one for years and have bought both HP and Dell servers since to replace and ended up using them on other projects as they weren't as capable as the ML110.

tawse5727 m ago

Thanks - so it is a specific bios update.Food for thought as I was looking …Thanks - so it is a specific bios update.Food for thought as I was looking at this TS140 pentium about 5 this morning and wondering whether it would suit for a basic internet surfing / word processing desktop. Then I had an argument with myself about needing a XEON so the flexibility to upgrade is interesting.


A dual core is fine for browsing/word processing. I've had one for years.
I've only had problems when running a flash game (=>1 core at 100%), watching online TV and browsing. At that point the online TV would stutter. I've also always used an adblock, so I've never had to deal with background flash scripts.

So if you don't do more than browsing and office a dual core is absolutely sufficient.

Uridium9 m ago

Thats pretty poor, I agree avoid if thats the case.I still think the last …Thats pretty poor, I agree avoid if thats the case.I still think the last of the Great home tower servers was the HP ML110, If you can find a cheap new/nearly new one on Ebay £100 will buy you a Pentium dual core G6/G7 with Xeon upgrade potential along with Dual gigabit NIC's, 4x 5.25" SATA Bays, room for 3+ 3.5" drives in place of the DVD and a proper HP ILO card for lights out management.I've had one for years and have bought both HP and Dell servers since to replace and ended up using them on other projects as they weren't as capable as the ML110.


I've raised the missing power cable and HDD mounting kit with serversdirect. I'll let you guys know once they reply.

But as I've said, there are people on their forums complaining exactly about this as well. It seems Lenovo sells their HDDs with mounting kit and tries to force you buy from them. The Xeon on their website shows the mounting kit. I'm still confused about that.

jomay5 m ago

I've raised the missing power cable and HDD mounting kit with …I've raised the missing power cable and HDD mounting kit with serversdirect. I'll let you guys know once they reply.But as I've said, there are people on their forums complaining exactly about this as well. It seems Lenovo sells their HDDs with mounting kit and tries to force you buy from them. The Xeon on their website shows the mounting kit. I'm still confused about that.




It sounds as if this pentium server is not such a good deal as the xeon version that got so much heat on here earlier this year and last year - no one who got that one ever complained later about a shortage of cables or missing caddies.

I will give this a miss.

Uridium2 h, 35 m ago

Maybe worth a look though to see how much you can pickup a Xeon E3-12xxv5 …Maybe worth a look though to see how much you can pickup a Xeon E3-12xxv5 for though....quick ebay search....https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon-E3-1220-V5-3-0GHz-LGA-1151-Skylake-CPU-processor-SR2LG/322905596922?hash=item4b2eac63fa:g:sHkAAOSwfVhaGunx


That appears to be one of the Xeons which lacks a GPU so presumably you would need a discrete GPU just to be able to boot it?
As the platform supports Xeons I presume they use the business class chipset as standard even when installing a consumer CPU!

tawse571 h, 55 m ago

It sounds as if this pentium server is not such a good deal as the xeon …It sounds as if this pentium server is not such a good deal as the xeon version that got so much heat on here earlier this year and last year - no one who got that one ever complained later about a shortage of cables or missing caddies.I will give this a miss.


Whatever CPU you upgrade to you can sell your old one on. My Dell T20 server originally came with a pentium G3220, I upgrade it to an i3 4130 for £48 and sold the G3220 on for £36. Later on I upgrade the CPU again to an i5 4570s + 8GB DRR3 RAM and sold the 4130 + ECC Server RAM on (in total about £35-ish)
Edited by: "RiverDragon8" 27th Nov

crazydealhunter2 h, 38 m ago

any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, …any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, remote torrent client and ofc remotely nas drive share.


Definately Linux! As it's way better than Windows for a home server - if you don't mind the learning curve that is.
Kubuntu is a good OS

Is it ddr4? Will a i5-6500 fit in free socket?

jomay3 h, 4 m ago

no caddys and no 3.5" HDD mounting kit is a killer imho. It does not come …no caddys and no 3.5" HDD mounting kit is a killer imho. It does not come with the blue HDD caddies that are shown on Lenovo's site:https://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/data-center/servers/towers/ThinkServer-TS150/p/77LS7TS150VAnd there are some pretty angry customers:https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkServer/TS150/td-p/3598658I've bought a TS150 a few weeks ago (for about the same price). I've never seen such a rip-off and badly built server before. And yes, I've had plenty of home servers for £100-£200 before. This comes without HDD mounting kit and only has one PSU cable to connect up to 3x SATA. Heck Lenovo even didn't supply a power cable!All the bits you need to make it work are explicitly non-standard so you cannot buy off the shelf ATX supplies. For example, the PSU doesn't have any spare connectors. The PSU only connects to the motherboard. On the motherboard there is a special connector (looks like an ATX 4 pin connector?) that attaches to 3x SATA power. You may need another cable as the provided cable is quite short. I think these are the right ones: https://www.moddiy.com/products/Original-IBM-Lenovo-Mini-4%2dPin-to-2-x-SATA-Power-Sleeved-Cable-(40cm).htmlBut the worst is clearly the missing HDD mounting kit. How are you supposed to install any HDD without this?Avoid. Buy Dell or HP.


Regarding those 4 pin to 3 x SATA power cables, it's not ideal but you can hack them up yourself. The 4 pin end is exactly the same as what I think is called an EPS CPU power cable, 3 pins in use. Stare at the wires and a SATA power pinout until it makes sense and you've got your pinout.

I had to do this for my current TS150 but I wouldn't want to do it again, if HP or whoever provide enough cables to use all the bays I'd rather buy from them.

crazydealhunter3 h, 7 m ago

any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, …any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, remote torrent client and ofc remotely nas drive share.


'Ubuntu server' for anything server-y. Headless, but that's exactly what you want.

It might be missing some bits but it is a very low price for what you get and don't we all used blu tak and duct tape for our hard drives these days?

Is this good to go as a desktop if you just add say Windows 10?

Just for web browsing.

Would that be easy and what would be cheapest option to put windows 10 on?

bowerman15 m ago

Is this good to go as a desktop if you just add say Windows 10?Just for …Is this good to go as a desktop if you just add say Windows 10?Just for web browsing.Would that be easy and what would be cheapest option to put windows 10 on?


You can buy it and use it as a desktop and put this SSD in click for £61.99 and get a cheap win10 license for less than £3 off eBay. You're looking at £185 all in.
Edited by: "RiverDragon8" 27th Nov

jomay4 h, 38 m ago

But the worst is clearly the missing HDD mounting kit. How are you …But the worst is clearly the missing HDD mounting kit. How are you supposed to install any HDD without this?Avoid. Buy Dell or HP.


You can get the trays for around £8 plus P&P from eBay (reconditioned), also according to this thread: forums.lenovo.com/t5/…e/1 IBM part number "0DM00004827-10" is fully compatible.

For what it's worth, I was considering buying one of these from ServersPlus a few weeks ago, but it was described on their website as "not compatible with third party drives." I thought this seemed a bit odd, so I emailed them for clarification and received this response:

Hi Nick

Many thanks for your email, to clarify; the Lenovo range of tower servers require disk caddies to allow you to mount hard drives in the drive cage. Unfortunately Lenovo do not sell these caddies separately and we are unable to source them, we have also had reports of 3rd party drives not being recognised by the tower servers (possible firmware issues) and as such we would not advise using anything other than Lenovo hard drives with caddie attached that are compatible with this server.

I hope this makes sense, any further questions please feel free to contact me.

Regards

Darryll


In the end I decided I couldn't be bothered with the potential hassle; YMMV I suppose. It does still represent a lot of bang for the buck if you're prepared to deal with the possible issues.


edit: fixed link
Edited by: "VladTheImpaler" 27th Nov

crazydealhunter5 h, 23 m ago

any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, …any one suggest me a good os for this server? basically doing plex, nas, remote torrent client and ofc remotely nas drive share.


Unraid, FreeNas, OMV or roll your own, for a more specific reply post more specific requirements.
Edited by: "Avalon-One" 27th Nov

VladTheImpaler4 h, 15 m ago

You can get the trays for around £8 plus P&P from eBay (reconditioned), …You can get the trays for around £8 plus P&P from eBay (reconditioned), also according to this thread: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/se01_eg/thread-id/3740/page/1 IBM part number "0DM00004827-10" is fully compatible.For what it's worth, I was considering buying one of these from ServersPlus a few weeks ago, but it was described on their website as "not compatible with third party drives." I thought this seemed a bit odd, so I emailed them for clarification and received this response:Hi NickMany thanks for your email, to clarify; the Lenovo range of tower servers require disk caddies to allow you to mount hard drives in the drive cage. Unfortunately Lenovo do not sell these caddies separately and we are unable to source them, we have also had reports of 3rd party drives not being recognised by the tower servers (possible firmware issues) and as such we would not advise using anything other than Lenovo hard drives with caddie attached that are compatible with this server.I hope this makes sense, any further questions please feel free to contact me.RegardsDarryllIn the end I decided I couldn't be bothered with the potential hassle; YMMV I suppose. It does still represent a lot of bang for the buck if you're prepared to deal with the possible issues.edit: fixed link


Thank you for the link for the HDD brackets. I might keep it as a NAS after all. I haven't decided yet.

I'm also very surprised to hear that it may not be compatible with all HDDs. I would have thought that the SATA standard means ALL drives are compatible (up to a maximum size). And surely the SATA chipset on the motherboard is an off-the-shelf item. In any case, it shows what an (intentionally?) awful job Lenovo did with this server.

I had an HP ML110 G7 a long time ago (got it cheap with cashback) - that was a really nicely built server, very sturdy. And it was a joy to use the mounting brackets to install HDDs. It was so easy and smooth, much better than what I knew from cheapish ATX cases.The build quality on the ML110 was also better than the HP microserver and far outclassed this Lenovo TS150. But maybe HP has become cheap now as well?

I got one of these TS150s earlier this year and it's true that it only comes with 3 x SATA power connectors and *no* 3.5" disk caddies for two of the hard drive bays. Previous TS140s I've bought have had the disk caddies in place, and a second set of 3 x SATA power connectors.
The caddies and SATA power cables are the same as the ones from the TS140 - looking at pictures it seems that the IBM 0DM00004827-10 HDD caddy mentioned by a previous poster will fit the TS140/TS150. The SATA power cable is part no. 54Y8286 and it looks like a substitute could be made from an ATX 12V 4-Pin extension cable, a molex to SATA power cable and a connector block.
Overall the build quality is better than the comparable HPE ML10 server, and close to the TS140 it replaces.

RiverDragon827th Nov

Whatever CPU you upgrade to you can sell your old one on. My Dell T20 …Whatever CPU you upgrade to you can sell your old one on. My Dell T20 server originally came with a pentium G3220, I upgrade it to an i3 4130 for £48 and sold the G3220 on for £36. Later on I upgrade the CPU again to an i5 4570s + 8GB DRR3 RAM and sold the 4130 + ECC Server RAM on (in total about £35-ish)


Just for reference: lenovopress.com/lp0…pdf
The manual does not list i5's or i7's as compatible on page 8, only Celeron, Pentium and i3's are compatible. I vaguely remember that only the latter processors (and the Xeon's) support ECC, and maybe that makes them compatible with the C236 chipset of the TS150 motherboard.

jomay47 m ago

Just for reference: https://lenovopress.com/lp0071.pdfThe manual does not …Just for reference: https://lenovopress.com/lp0071.pdfThe manual does not list i5's or i7's as compatible on page 8, only Celeron, Pentium and i3's are compatible. I vaguely remember that only the latter processors (and the Xeon's) support ECC, and maybe that makes them compatible with the C236 chipset of the TS150 motherboard.


You can put i5 or i7 CPU's in this server click so long as you also swap the ECC server RAM (which I already mentioned I done to my Dell T20 server).

RiverDragon89 h, 22 m ago

You can put i5 or i7 CPU's in this server click so long as you also swap …You can put i5 or i7 CPU's in this server click so long as you also swap the ECC server RAM (which I already mentioned I done to my Dell T20 server).


Have you tried an i5 or i7 in this Lenovo TS150? The T20 has a different socket, different chipset and is a different generation.

Maybe i5's work for the TS150 as well, but the compatibility sheet says it doesn't. I'm sure that Intel could make an i5 work if they wanted - but maybe Intel has explicitly made the C236 incompatible with i5's or i7's...

Feel free to try if you have an i5 lying around. I wouldn't risk buying one for that.

jomay7 h, 39 m ago

Have you tried an i5 or i7 in this Lenovo TS150? The T20 has a different …Have you tried an i5 or i7 in this Lenovo TS150? The T20 has a different socket, different chipset and is a different generation.Maybe i5's work for the TS150 as well, but the compatibility sheet says it doesn't. I'm sure that Intel could make an i5 work if they wanted - but maybe Intel has explicitly made the C236 incompatible with i5's or i7's...Feel free to try if you have an i5 lying around. I wouldn't risk buying one for that.


''Have you tried an i5 or i7 in this Lenovo TS150? The T20 has a different socket, different chipset and is a different generation''

It's the exact same thing. You obviously put in a CPU that will fit into the Lenovo mobo i.e socket 1151. There's no risk at all, I wouldn't hesitate to stick an i5 instead of an Xeon if I needed an iGPU.

All those CPU's listed on page 8 in that manual all support ECC server RAM, which this Lenovo comes with.......that's why it says they will support those CPU's. For you to upgrade to an i5 or i7 you'll need to also upgrade to desktop RAM.
Edited by: "RiverDragon8" 29th Nov

Also was interested in putting an i5 6500 in this but didn’t know about the caddies and power supply issue although I do have the adaptor to put a standard power supply in already from when they put the Xeon version of this out dirt cheap and messed everyone around
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