Lenovo ThinkServer TS150 Tower Server, Pentium G4400 3.3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, no Disk £129.42 @ Ballicom
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Lenovo ThinkServer TS150 Tower Server, Pentium G4400 3.3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, no Disk £129.42 @ Ballicom

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Found 20th Oct
Barebones tower server, 6 x SATA ports on-board, 64GB Max RAM (1 x 8GB fitted), DVD reWriter, 8 x USB 3.0 (2 front, 6 rear), 1 x microphone, 1 x serial, 1 x LAN (Gigabit Ethernet), 1 x VGA, 1 x DisplayPort, 1 x audio line-in, 1 x audio line-out, No hard disk.

Good start to build a basic desktop PC, or low power server

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How strange, there are only 2 x 3.5" bays, then 1 x 2.5", then 2 x 5.25". So the 6 sata ports are actually kinda hard to fully use. Maybe a 2x5.25 to 3x3.5 converter then one port's used for a 2.5" boot drive?

i_have_crabs26 m ago

https://www.technoworld.com/lenovo-thinkserver-ts150-3-3ghz-g4400-250w-tower-4u-70lv003eea£6 cheaper there



Great username!

ahenners2 m ago

Great username!


Hahaha thanks
I'm a big fan of shellfish

CampGareth47 m ago

How strange, there are only 2 x 3.5" bays, then 1 x 2.5", then 2 x 5.25". …How strange, there are only 2 x 3.5" bays, then 1 x 2.5", then 2 x 5.25". So the 6 sata ports are actually kinda hard to fully use. Maybe a 2x5.25 to 3x3.5 converter then one port's used for a 2.5" boot drive?




Here is the manual page showing drive locations. This covers multiple configurations, but hopefully this comes with a slimline DVD drive (laptop-type). My TS140 does, and it allows a full size 3.5" drive to squeeze in the top 5.25" bay with the slimline DVD.

The second 5.25" bay was supplied ready to take another 3.5" drive. Both the 5.25" bays with the slimline DVD and without were supplied ready to just slot in HDDs, without any caddy or adaptors, and with cooling fans preinstalled.

I've managed to squeeze five 3.5" disks in my TS140, using the slots shown in the TS150 image below, and another where the 2.5" bay is labelled 3 below. The TS140/TS150 manuals both suggest there is only room for four 3.5s, but mine seemed to fit 5, so try your luck. I then have a loose 2.5" SSD holding the OS etc above slot 2. The DVD drive is disconnected as I ran out of SATAs.

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sneakybifta18 m ago

Here is the manual page showing drive locations. This covers multiple …Here is the manual page showing drive locations. This covers multiple configurations, but hopefully this comes with a slimline DVD drive (laptop-type). My TS140 does, and it allows a full size 3.5" drive to squeeze in the top 5.25" bay with the slimline DVD.The second 5.25" bay was supplied ready to take another 3.5" drive. Both the 5.25" bays with the slimline DVD and without were supplied ready to just slot in HDDs, without any caddy or adaptors, and with cooling fans preinstalled.I've managed to squeeze five 3.5" disks in my TS140, using the slots shown in the TS150 image below, and another where the 2.5" bay is labelled 3 below. The TS140/TS150 manuals both suggest there is only room for four 3.5s, but mine seemed to fit 5, so try your luck. I then have a loose 2.5" SSD holding the OS etc above slot 2. The DVD drive is disconnected as I ran out of SATAs.[Image]


Oh that's cool, did you have to buy any adapters to get a few more SATA power connectors out of the PSU?

I'm seeing the PSU in the EU is 450W and 80 plus platinum rated, does that match yours?
Manual says something different actually, 250W bronze or 400W platinum... hmm

Final question, how's the noise when it's fully loaded up with drives?

I'm looking at buying 3 of these to form a small ceph cluster, then because I like living on the edge filling it with whatever cheap 3.5" HDDs I can find, maybe second hand ones from CEX (they tend to beat the magic £25/TB mark with 500-640GB drives and come with a 2 year warranty).
Edited by: "CampGareth" 20th Oct

Another option if people looking for cheap servers - £113 after cashback for HPE ProLiant ML10 Gen9 Pentium G4400 v5 2/3.4GHz 4GB at eBuyer:

ebuyer.com/758…421

Original Poster

CampGareth44 m ago

... Final question, how's the noise when it's fully loaded up with drives? …... Final question, how's the noise when it's fully loaded up with drives? ...


I have a couple of TS-140s (which are physically very similar) and they're very quiet. The noise from internal HDDs far exceeds the fan noise from the units.

Original Poster

robs142 m ago

Another option if people looking for cheap servers - £113 after cashback …Another option if people looking for cheap servers - £113 after cashback for HPE ProLiant ML10 Gen9 Pentium G4400 v5 2/3.4GHz 4GB at eBuyer:https://www.ebuyer.com/758894-hpe-proliant-ml10-gen9-pentium-g4400-v5-2-3-4ghz-4gb-tower-server-837826-421-837826-421


The HPE Proliant ML10 Gen 9 is a reasonable option for a server, but not so good as a desktop replacement, mainly because
(1) Only DisplayPort 1.2 video outputs – these require an active DP to HDMI/DVI convertor, the standard passive DP to HDMI converters will not work.
(2) No sound hardware on-board, and sound is not supported over the DP 1.2 ports
(3) Adding PCIe cards (for example, a graphics card to provide HDMI and sound) increases the system and case fan speeds – resulting in more noise

Great price! I've got the TS140 running all day every day. Don't try to save yourself £20 buying an inferior server when these are so silent. You can't even tell it's on most of the time.

Got 4 3.5 drives in there and 1 2.5 SSD for the OS.

Not sure about the TS150, but on the TS140 you have to use shorter graphics cards otherwise you lose the front USB ports as they're in the way on the motherboard.

i_have_crabs2 h, 43 m ago

https://www.technoworld.com/lenovo-thinkserver-ts150-3-3ghz-g4400-250w-tower-4u-70lv003eea£6 cheaper there


But OOS.

Need an Intel based machine for a piece of equipment and so can pull the hard drives from an AMD machine that I have. I have a xenon one of these at home and they are amazingly quiet.

Anyone know if this will support Win 7 (and XP !!)? Maybe I need to go down a different route and get a used machine.

Giving up on this; the later chips won't support XP, so I will have to go for a second hand machine (which will cost about the same price as this.

CampGareth2 h, 12 m ago

Oh that's cool, did you have to buy any adapters to get a few more SATA …Oh that's cool, did you have to buy any adapters to get a few more SATA power connectors out of the PSU?I'm seeing the PSU in the EU is 450W and 80 plus platinum rated, does that match yours?Manual says something different actually, 250W bronze or 400W platinum... hmmFinal question, how's the noise when it's fully loaded up with drives?I'm looking at buying 3 of these to form a small ceph cluster, then because I like living on the edge filling it with whatever cheap 3.5" HDDs I can find, maybe second hand ones from CEX (they tend to beat the magic £25/TB mark with 500-640GB drives and come with a 2 year warranty).



Here's a close up of my PSU, as I've been asked before on actual TS140 deals. It's 450W.

Some images of the internals showing the HDD bays which I'll assume are the same on the TS150. In these images, the top two HDD bays (in the 5.25s) are empty. The third bay, in the middle, connectors facing towards the rear, is filled. This is labelled as 2.5" so may be occupied with a caddy on the TS150, but for me it was ready to slide in a 3.5". Bays 4 and 5 are also filled, connectors facing out sideways in the bottom to slots, above and below the main intake fan.

Image 1
Image 2

I did need some SATA power splitters to power it all up, yet. I can't remember how many, sorry. Here's an image of things looking messier with a power splitter, fourth HDD, a Raspberry Pi wedged in to provide a VPN (to access / restart server remotely), and PCIe USB card both to power the Pi and bring the unRAID boot USB inside the case.

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I've since removed the Pi (new router with built-in VPN), added a 2.5" SSD that hangs loose off it's own cables, added a 5th 3.5" HDD, and added a PCIe SATA card so the DVD drive isn't left without a SATA. Not that I'll ever use the DVD drive. Haven't got any recent images though.

Totally recommend this server, whisper quiet, and surprisingly versatile.

wpj43 m ago

Anyone know if this will support Win 7 (and XP !!)? Maybe I need to go …Anyone know if this will support Win 7 (and XP !!)? Maybe I need to go down a different route and get a used machine.


Nope. It's Skylake gen CPU which is where Microsoft cut off support for Windows 7.

XP - LOL!

Yes, bit of Googling told me the same.

Have to buy an old machine for the same price..... just had to buy a used PCi card for the equipment for £1000. It was using an ISA card under Win 98, but the motherboard went (only 18yo!) and the license keys were lost so it's another few thousand for the semi-obsolete XP software as well (otherwise it's an upgrade of the machines as well which is an arm & leg)

sneakybifta31 m ago

Here's a close up of my PSU, as I've been asked before on actual TS140 …Here's a close up of my PSU, as I've been asked before on actual TS140 deals. It's 450W.Some images of the internals showing the HDD bays which I'll assume are the same on the TS150. In these images, the top two HDD bays (in the 5.25s) are empty. The third bay, in the middle, connectors facing towards the rear, is filled. This is labelled as 2.5" so may be occupied with a caddy on the TS150, but for me it was ready to slide in a 3.5". Bays 4 and 5 are also filled, connectors facing out sideways in the bottom to slots, above and below the main intake fan.Image 1Image 2I did need some SATA power splitters to power it all up, yet. I can't remember how many, sorry. Here's an image of things looking messier with a power splitter, fourth HDD, a Raspberry Pi wedged in to provide a VPN (to access / restart server remotely), and PCIe USB card both to power the Pi and bring the unRAID boot USB inside the case.Image I've since removed the Pi (new router with built-in VPN), added a 2.5" SSD that hangs loose off it's own cables, added a 5th 3.5" HDD, and added a PCIe SATA card so the DVD drive isn't left without a SATA. Not that I'll ever use the DVD drive. Haven't got any recent images though.Totally recommend this server, whisper quiet, and surprisingly versatile.


That's a decent PSU you've got there although the specific model number for this deal (70LV003EEA) suggests 250W bronze unit in this system
Lenovo site

I may be missing something here?

can anybody confirm what psu is inside. From this purchase ofcourse

Any chance to upgrade the cpu to XEON E3 V5?

Original Poster

mfkiwl1 h, 2 m ago

Any chance to upgrade the cpu to XEON E3 V5?


Yes, Lenovo announced the TS-150 as supporting the Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6, Core i3 6100/6300/7100/7300, Pentium G6100/6300/7100/7300, and Celeron G3900. There is a model in the current range (model 70LV003HEA) with an Intel Xeon E3-1225 v5

cjed14 m ago

Yes, Lenovo announced the TS-150 as supporting the Intel Xeon E3-1200 …Yes, Lenovo announced the TS-150 as supporting the Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6, Core i3 6100/6300/7100/7300, Pentium G6100/6300/7100/7300, and Celeron G3900. There is a model in the current range (model 70LV003HEA) with an Intel Xeon E3-1225 v5


The one with XEON E3 is expensive at this moment.

The_IMF6 h, 41 m ago

Great price! I've got the TS140 running all day every day. Don't try to …Great price! I've got the TS140 running all day every day. Don't try to save yourself £20 buying an inferior server when these are so silent. You can't even tell it's on most of the time.Got 4 3.5 drives in there and 1 2.5 SSD for the OS.Not sure about the TS150, but on the TS140 you have to use shorter graphics cards otherwise you lose the front USB ports as they're in the way on the motherboard.



What size cards are necessary for the TS140?

manual suggests normal power is just 250w and full spec 400w

on power on full description says 250w... shame as otherwise could slip in a nice graphics card?

Power
  • Device Type
    Power supply
  • Nominal Voltage
    AC 120/230 V (50/60 Hz)
  • Power Provided
    250 Watt
  • 80 PLUS Certification
    80 PLUS Bronze
  • Efficiency
    85%

freestyle36 m ago

What size cards are necessary for the TS140?


It already has onboard gfx but I have a dual monitor setup and wanted hd on both and the ability to play some games (I use Xbox or PS4 for newer games).

I got the MSI GTX 750Ti and that fits just right. Any longer and it's goodbye front USB ports.

Thanks OP, ordered one. Might order another two in the coming days.
Edited by: "CampGareth" 21st Oct

Bought! Hot! Hotter than any microserver!

Is it ECC ram only in this board?

jameshothothot17 h, 27 m ago

3590 …3590 passmarkhttps://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+G4400+@+3.30GHzpretty good for pentium!


When will they release Kaby Lake Pentium server?
cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz

OOS....

Back in stock! Site says 30 available.

Ordered one. 27 available now.

Mine just turned up, 250W PSU as was suspected. The one surprise is an optical drive is included, it even has its own fan specifically for the optical drive (why?).

Got 5 3.5" and one 2.5" to fit, will report back on how that goes. They included absolutely 0 caddies which kinda sucks.

They haven't even included SATA power for 6 drives. Only 3. And 5V is generated on the board so you have to use a custom 4 pin (looks like 4 pin CPU power) to SATA adapter. Bleh. Thoroughly disappointed that they haven't provided enough resources to use all the sata ports or drive bays out of the box.

*edit*
Right I've managed to fit 5 3.5" HDDs and one 2.5" SSD fairly easily. It's pretty ugly inside though and I had to hack together my own sata power cable (protip: pinout on the 4 pin to SATA cable is pin 1 NC, pin 2 5V, pin 3 12V, pin 4 ground. Keying on the connector matches 4 pin CPU power exactly). Machine is very quiet, quieter than the HDDs within.
Edited by: "CampGareth" 24th Oct

sneakybifta20th Oct

(images)


These images have gone, can you put them back please?

Memory is all in one slot, there are four.
Has anyone found a drive adapter for the drive bays, the official one looks like a simple bar of plastic (but with a fancy plastic connector joining the two.
It should be 00FC544 Talon HDD Tray Asm V1.0.

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Has anyone tried to get any from Lenovo?
Edited by: "jasee" 25th Oct

i_have_crabs20th Oct

That's a decent PSU you've got there although the specific model number …That's a decent PSU you've got there although the specific model number for this deal (70LV003EEA) suggests 250W bronze unit in this systemLenovo siteI may be missing something here?


Well, it says on the Company's website on the OP's link, in the FULL Product Description, that it's rocking a 250W PSU ...

Nothing more, and nothing less. :-)

jameshothothot20th Oct

manual suggests normal power is just 250w and full spec 400won power on …manual suggests normal power is just 250w and full spec 400won power on full description says 250w... shame as otherwise could slip in a nice graphics card?PowerDevice TypePower supplyNominal VoltageAC 120/230 V (50/60 Hz)Power Provided250 Watt80 PLUS Certification80 PLUS BronzeEfficiency85%


As above. :-)

CampGareth23rd Oct

Back in stock! Site says 30 available.


Not anymore ...

Unfortunately. :-(

The_IMF20th Oct

Great price! I've got the TS140 running all day every day. Don't try to …Great price! I've got the TS140 running all day every day. Don't try to save yourself £20 buying an inferior server when these are so silent. You can't even tell it's on most of the time.Got 4 3.5 drives in there and 1 2.5 SSD for the OS.Not sure about the TS150, but on the TS140 you have to use shorter graphics cards otherwise you lose the front USB ports as they're in the way on the motherboard.


Out of interest, what do you use your Lenovo Think Server for?, or ... thanx. :-)

amour3k37 m ago

Out of interest, what do you use your Lenovo Think Server for?, or ... …Out of interest, what do you use your Lenovo Think Server for?, or ... thanx. :-)


Google "The Ultimate Server"

I use it for THAT and because someone kept finding that Steam streaming box thing, I put Steam on it with older games (although with my GFX it handles games up to 2015ish quite well).

I also use Blue Iris on it to monitor my cheaper cameras (got NVR for better cameras).

Lastly I use Photoshop on it and After Effects which runs ok although takes an age to render so can't recommend it for that.

My recommendation is, buy a small SSD for the OS and increase the RAM. I got a 128GB SSD and 16GB RAM with Windows Server 2016 installed on it. Boot time is around 30s so a restart for updates is never too annoying.

I've also managed to put 4 hard drives on the RAID with 2 2TB mirrored for stuff I never want to lose and 2 4TB combined so 8TB there for multimedia files.

I did have to buy another SATA card to be able to use the CD ROM again though as motherboard only has 5 SATA slots and I used them all with the 4 HDs and 1 SSD.
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