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LG 32 inch LCD TV HD Ready 720p Freeview £249.99 @ Ebay/Ebuyer Outlet
LG 32 inch LCD TV HD Ready 720p Freeview £249.99 @ Ebay/Ebuyer Outlet

LG 32 inch LCD TV HD Ready 720p Freeview £249.99 @ Ebay/Ebuyer Outlet

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Dont know a great deal about televisions but this seems good to me

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Looks good to me too. Heat added.

Good price but not 1080p though

Original Poster

this is surely all you need and would by myself one if i had the money yet im a poor student

used to have this TV. Its not bad for a cheap entry level model, but if you know anything about TV's or even care remotely about picture quality, spend some extra cash and buy a better model.
(I suggest mid range LG's)

Still a good price tho.

seems a good one

got the ps3 on one of these. super set for the price.

doe anyone find LG model numbers make sense i.e. so you can tell what quality range a specific one is?
with samsung they're in series. like sony. panasonic have their letter scheme. LG doesn't make sense to me!

birdgage

Good price but not 1080p though


1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a monitor (which very few people do), or if you sit unhealthily close to the screen...

Also, SD signals commonly look better on a 720p TV (less scaling). If I were looking to buy a 32" TV, I'd choose 720p over 1080p.
Edited by: "jukkie" 8th Nov 2010

jukkie

1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a … 1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a monitor (which very few people do), or if you sit unhealthily close to the screen...Also, SD signals commonly look better on a 720p TV (less scaling). If I were looking to buy a 32" TV, I'd choose 720p over 1080p.



Exactly. This is such a standard response to any 720p TV that's ever posted and is so misinformed.

jukkie

1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a … 1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a monitor (which very few people do), or if you sit unhealthily close to the screen...

Nonsense. If 1080p is pointless on a 32" then it's pointless on a 60". Which nobody suggests to be the case. It's just a lie salesmen used to tell back when 1080p 32" screens were significantly more expensive than 720p sets.

Jibba Jbba people, a tv is a tv! Heat, I love Tv...

A great bargain, only telly I know that has a toaster slot at the top - can't do muffins though.

Rubisco

Nonsense. If 1080p is pointless on a 32" then it's pointless on a 60".



No. For a given resolution (such as 1080p), the smaller the screen the smaller the pixels. On a 32" screen the pixels at 1080p are so small that the human eye can't resolve them sufficiently to see a significant improvement over the larger pixels of 720p at "normal" viewing distances. Then the greater degree of upscaling needed to display an SD signal at 1080p tips the balance in favour of a 720p set if you watch more TV than blu-ray.

Decentbloke

No. For a given resolution (such as 1080p), the smaller the screen the … No. For a given resolution (such as 1080p), the smaller the screen the smaller the pixels. On a 32" screen the pixels at 1080p are so small that the human eye can't resolve them sufficiently to see a significant improvement over the larger pixels of 720p at "normal" viewing distances. Then the greater degree of upscaling needed to display an SD signal at 1080p tips the balance in favour of a 720p set if you watch more TV than blu-ray.

No. You should buy a TV based on the portion of your field of vision you prefer the screen to take up, and the size of your room. There is no such thing as a "normal" viewing distance.

Viewed properly, a pixel on a 32" takes up exactly the same area of the human retina as a pixel on a 60" telly viewed properly. If you can't see an improvement on a 32" but you can on a larger screen you're either too far away from the 32" or too close to the larger one. Simple physics. Either that or you're hyperopic, but myopic people get the opposite effect.

Your argument only works if you're suffering from the delusion that a larger screen should take up more of your field of view. It shouldn't.

Rubisco

Viewed properly, a pixel on a 32" takes up exactly the same area of the … Viewed properly, a pixel on a 32" takes up exactly the same area of the human retina as a pixel on a 60" telly viewed properly. If you can't see an improvement on a 32" but you can on a larger screen you're either too far away from the 32" or too close to the larger one. Simple physics.



A circular argument that proves nothing. I reckon that people who buy a large TV do so because they like to see a bigger screen, not so they can sit 30 feet away from it.

A lot of people just have space for a modest-sized TV which they want to watch from across the room. For those people, all other things being equal, a 32" 720p set will be as good as a 32" 1080p set.

jukkie

1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a … 1080p is pointless on a 32" TV unless you are going to use it as a monitor (which very few people do), or if you sit unhealthily close to the screen...Also, SD signals commonly look better on a 720p TV (less scaling). If I were looking to buy a 32" TV, I'd choose 720p over 1080p.



So not pointless then? It comes down to ones viewing distance and not people saying whether it's needed or not.

olimain

Exactly. This is such a standard response to any 720p TV that's ever … Exactly. This is such a standard response to any 720p TV that's ever posted and is so misinformed.



Misinformed, how can someone saying it's not 1080p be misinformed? The poster is correct, it is not 1080p. Now whether people want 1080p is a different matter.

Decentbloke

No. For a given resolution (such as 1080p), the smaller the screen the … No. For a given resolution (such as 1080p), the smaller the screen the smaller the pixels. On a 32" screen the pixels at 1080p are so small that the human eye can't resolve them sufficiently to see a significant improvement over the larger pixels of 720p at "normal" viewing distances. Then the greater degree of upscaling needed to display an SD signal at 1080p tips the balance in favour of a 720p set if you watch more TV than blu-ray.



Nonsense. You just need to sit closer. 1080p monitors were about long before all these 'HD', '1080p' and 'Full HD' buzz words were about.

Also there is no normal distance. Everyone is different. I'm viewing a 24" Full HD in myt bedroom, close enough to see the difference. You migh be viewing from a living room in a mansion. Normal used in a conversation like this is meaningless and brings nothing to the argument/debate.

Decentbloke

A circular argument that proves nothing. I reckon that people who buy a … A circular argument that proves nothing. I reckon that people who buy a large TV do so because they like to see a bigger screen, not so they can sit 30 feet away from it.A lot of people just have space for a modest-sized TV which they want to watch from across the room. For those people, all other things being equal, a 32" 720p set will be as good as a 32" 1080p set.



You're trying to give advice. Stating a lot of people brings nothing to your argument. 1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. This does not change because the TV gets larger (or smaller). The smaller the 108op screen, the closer you need to sit to it. If you want your debate to stand, start asking questions on peoples viewing distances, otherwise your argument of what you are trying to say does not work.

shawty1984

The smaller the 108op screen, the closer you need to sit to it..



Exactly. The smaller the screen, the closer you need to sit to be able to distinguish between 1080p and 720p. Sit across an ordinary living room - say 10 feet - from a 32" TV and you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference. :-)

Decentbloke

Exactly. The smaller the screen, the closer you need to sit to be able to … Exactly. The smaller the screen, the closer you need to sit to be able to distinguish between 1080p and 720p. Sit across an ordinary living room - say 10 feet - from a 32" TV and you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference. :-)



This is where your debate fails. No one has said otherwise. But there is no ordianry this or normal that. What is an ordianry living room. My living room I would say is ordianry, so might yours be, but they might be totally different and have totally different set ups. Your debate fails because you are trying to give advice on something that you are saying os normal. Normal does't really excist, people need to know the specifics, not the normals.

Simply put, 1080p is 1080p. It will look the same at 20" as it will at 100" if both are viewed from the correct distance. I wish people would undersdtand not to use normal this and ordianry that as it helps no one.

shawty1984

Simply put, 1080p is 1080p. It will look the same at 20" as it will at … Simply put, 1080p is 1080p. It will look the same at 20" as it will at 100" if both are viewed from the correct distance. I wish people would undersdtand not to use normal this and ordianry that as it helps no one.



My friend, you're in danger of disappearing up your own argument. Rightly or wrongly, I believe most people have an idea of what constitutes an ordinary living room and my argument is that in such a room - all other things being equal - a 720p 32" TV is as good as a 1080p 32" TV. You, however, need to invoke a "correct viewing distance" that varies in an unspecified way with size of TV to justify choosing 1080p. Well, it looks like we'll have to agree to differ and leave others to make up their own minds. I rest my case :-)

Hahahah, love keeping an eye out for TV deals...not cos I need a tv but because I love the ridiculous arguments than go on in these threads......

Decentbloke

My friend, you're in danger of disappearing up your own argument. Rightly … My friend, you're in danger of disappearing up your own argument. Rightly or wrongly, I believe most people have an idea of what constitutes an ordinary living room and my argument is that in such a room - all other things being equal - a 720p 32" TV is as good as a 1080p 32" TV. You, however, need to invoke a "correct viewing distance" that varies in an unspecified way with size of TV to justify choosing 1080p. Well, it looks like we'll have to agree to differ and leave others to make up their own minds. I rest my case :-)



You rest no case.

My argument is pretty clear and is 100% factually correct.

Yet you still spout about a 32" 720p TV being the same as a 32" 1080p TV without any viewing distances what so ever. Simply put, you do not know what you are talking about. A subject such as this can no go any further if you insist on using ordinary rooms as your argument.

I refer you to post #20

Decentbloke

I refer you to post #20



And as already stated, no one has said otherwise.

That is not the argument. What you were saying earlier in the thread is stupid.

HD relies on viewing distances. This goes for 1080p and 720p. Simply stating that 1080p is no good on smaller screens is nonsense. Stating that there is normal viewing distances is nonsense. HD and differing sizes TV's needs actual real scenarios, not people stating at normal distances.

What you may as well say along with what you are saying is that 28" 720p screens are useless to because people will be sat to far away at normal distances. Your argument is stupid. MInes is 100% factually correct.

Original Poster

just like to ask anyone bought one of these since i posted the deal?

The bigger your TV = the more time you'll spend arguing over the virtues of 1080 = the more time we spend snickering about your tiny tiny winkle

jukkie

[quote=birdgage] If I were looking to buy a 32" TV, I'd choose 720p over … [quote=birdgage] If I were looking to buy a 32" TV, I'd choose 720p over 1080p.



Sorry but i think you are insane hahaha

I agree, 1080P on a 32" is not worth paying extra for, on a 32" you will always get a good picture, its only the larger 40"+ TVs where the imperfections become more obvious

jb66

I agree, 1080P on a 32" is not worth paying extra for, on a 32" you will … I agree, 1080P on a 32" is not worth paying extra for, on a 32" you will always get a good picture, its only the larger 40"+ TVs where the imperfections become more obvious



Again, this depends on viewing distance and what you are viewing.

I'm sticking with my tv tuner on my Sega Game Gear satisfied in the knowledge I'm rolling with some serious man artillery.

birdgage

Sorry but i think you are insane hahaha


Why?

To see the difference between 720P and 1080P on a 32" TV, you'd have to sit 2 feet away from it, and who in their right mind does that? So yes, it IS all about viewing distances, and I suppose the people that say 1080P is worth it if you sit at a viewing distance that allows you to see the difference are right in a sense. But I suspect all those people have poor eyesight, and do indeed sit 2 feet away from the screen...

Plus, there is my other valid point, which is that while you won't notice the difference between the 2 HD variants on that size TV, you are very likely to notice SD channels actually look sharper on the 720P screen.
I know these facts because I've seen the results many, many times myself (one of the bonuses of living in Central London for a techie like me, is the fact that Tottenhan Court Road, with all it's electronics stores and showrooms, is only 5 minutes away. So my opportunities to check out a huge variety of TV's has been plenty over the years).

Edited by: "jukkie" 9th Nov 2010

People can tell me till they are blue in the pace that 1080P matters on a 32"

Ive seen both and decided that it doesnt

jb66

People can tell me till they are blue in the pace that 1080P matters on a … People can tell me till they are blue in the pace that 1080P matters on a 32"Ive seen both and decided that it doesnt



It does if viewing from the correct distance and viewing the correct material. Just because you can't see it, does not mean it doesn't matter.

jukkie

Why?To see the difference between 720P and 1080P on a 32" TV, you'd have … Why?To see the difference between 720P and 1080P on a 32" TV, you'd have to sit 2 feet away from it, and who in their right mind does that? So yes, it IS all about viewing distances, and I suppose the people that say 1080P is worth it if you sit at a viewing distance that allows you to see the difference are right in a sense. But I suspect all those people have poor eyesight, and do indeed sit 2 feet away from the screen...Plus, there is my other valid point, which is that while you won't notice the difference between the 2 HD variants on that size TV, you are very likely to notice SD channels actually look sharper on the 720P screen.I know these facts because I've seen the results many, many times myself (one of the bonuses of living in Central London for a techie like me, is the fact that Tottenhan Court Road, with all it's electronics stores and showrooms, is only 5 minutes away. So my opportunities to check out a huge variety of TV's has been plenty over the years).



Fairplay, i believe you when you say SD images are clearer on a 720p screen but HD channels are on the increase and Blu-ray sales are starting to increase over DVD's so in general i just think it's better to have a 1080p whatever the size of the screen.

While you lot were bickering, the price has shot up to £274.99!!

My gran is very happy with this, it looks fantastic
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