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LG Electronics N2R1 NAS Enclosure With DVDRW £88.58 Inc Delivery @ Dabs
LG Electronics N2R1 NAS Enclosure With DVDRW £88.58 Inc Delivery @ Dabs

LG Electronics N2R1 NAS Enclosure With DVDRW £88.58 Inc Delivery @ Dabs

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Been looking for a cheap NAS enclosure to act as a backup to my QNAP and found this. Has been posted before but not at this price I believe.
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LG's N2R1 is the first-ever Network Attached Storage (NAS) with a built in DVD burner. The NAS unit also offers advanced data management. With its simple and clean design, the N2R1 is perfect for consumers looking for the one destination to access and back all their data files.

Key Features

* Network Attached Storage
* DVD Re-Writer & Playback
* Easy Set Up
* DLNA Protocol compliant
* Selective Mirroring
* Access via Internet
* Hot Swappable 2 Bay Capacity
* Compatible with Windows, Linux & Mac Platforms

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Looks a smart bit of tackle... Forgive me if I've missed the point slightly, but can this be used independent of a computer? If so a good deal just got gooder!?!

Original Poster

It's a NAS as in Network Attached Storage. It can hold your data independant of your computer but you would need your computer to add/remove files. The box plugs into your network and acts like an external harddrive to your PC. You can access videos, music and pictures once setup from other devices such as PS3 without using your PC.
The enclosure I've listed doesn't have hard drives so you would have to add your own (as I intend to) or buy a NAS with the drives in.

as a backup to your qnap? wow - that's belt and braces ! :-)

I was looking at getting the Synology Disk Station DS210J which costs 135 quid, this is a lot cheaper. Will this perform on a similar level?

Shame you cant remove the dvdrw and replace it with another HD as im after a min of 3 Bay NAS for this price. Cheers anyways

Can this take 2 x 2tb HDs or is it 2tb in total?

Madchester

I was looking at getting the Synology Disk Station DS210J which costs 135 … I was looking at getting the Synology Disk Station DS210J which costs 135 quid, this is a lot cheaper. Will this perform on a similar level?



Yes and no. The Synology is a superior piece of kit to this LG I think. You can demo the Synology interface over at Synology's website. The Synology can do IP cam surveillance if you need that feature for example. The Synology won't have an optical drive built in. The Synology is in essence a linux computer and once you check the features you'll get a good idea of the tasks it can perform. Web server, ftp server, Itunes server, NZB downloader, Bittorrent, camera surveillance etc etc.

I must admit I'm biased towards the Synology, this LG NAS does have a decent feature set and is a lot less expensive.


Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

geebet

Can this take 2 x 2tb HDs or is it 2tb in total?



I have 2 x 2tb HDs in mine

Geemac

I have 2 x 2tb HDs in mine



Could you tell me what version of firmware are you using?

Does this work with the PS3 or is it easy enough to set up with a PS3?

geodave

Does this work with the PS3 or is it easy enough to set up with a PS3?



This thread answers your question >

hotukdeals.com/dea…205

Thanks for your help - guess I'll avoid it!

what's it like noise wise? is there a cooling fan in it?

fishmaster

This thread answers your question … This thread answers your question >http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-electronics-n2r1-nas-2tb-2-x-1tb/773205



This NAS has a decent feature set, but it would end up annoying me if basic stuff such as streaming to PS3/360 wasn't implemented very well. I still haven't changed my mind from a Synology or QNAP product tbh.

sswinner

as a backup to your qnap? wow - that's belt and braces ! :-)



im considering buying this as a spare nas for a pair of 500gigs that I've got capturing dust

Been looking at this in various configurations in different deals for about a week. Seems to be good hardware but let down by poor software and imposed limitations. I may be wrong but i also get the impression these are discontinued with no replacement so I would guess you are on your own once you have boughtit and done the latest update. For me I would sooner go with something a bit more supported to at least try and future proof it for a couple of years and for something with more forum support e.g. synology, qnap etc.

Madchester

I was looking at getting the Synology Disk Station DS210J which costs 135 … I was looking at getting the Synology Disk Station DS210J which costs 135 quid, this is a lot cheaper. Will this perform on a similar level?



synology is one of the best NAS you can get, if not the best make, qnap are good but more expensive

Edited by: "royals" 27th Dec 2010

can you connect a DAS to this via esata to expand the storage capacity?
Edited by: "techmob" 27th Dec 2010

£35 extra will get you one with a Blu-ray burner

the BT shop has cheaper postage even though it is the same company + 3% quidco

The dabs/Bt shop postage costs does vary so best to check both sites before making a purchase

Edited by: "paul.jacobs" 27th Dec 2010

really good piece of kit, got one of these for my office. well worth it. heat added.

How does the dvd burner actually work on this NAS??

Can it for instance burn ISO's or DVD Folders stored on the internal hard drives without having to connect the whole thing up to a computer?? What burning sofware does it come bundled with??

Questions ... questions ... hopefully some owners can give me some answers.(_;)

paul.jacobs

£35 extra will get you one with a Blu-ray burnerthe BT shop has cheaper … £35 extra will get you one with a Blu-ray burnerthe BT shop has cheaper postage even though it is the same company + 3% quidco



From what i've read the blu ray one is useless if you are expecting to rip blu ray movies with it, unless some clever sod has since written custom firmware that can accomplish that.

The processor and hardware in this is on par with the high end of what came out around 2-3 years ago. Most newer NAS drives now use the ATOM processor and are intel based which are much better, faster and are generally more efficient.

This is good enough for basic usage, for basic storage, basic dlna to your TV's, PS3, media server or 360, Samba access and also remote access like via ftp 'n stuff and thats about it.

This doesn't have the processor power to transcode movies or run allot of other third party freeware software packages that are starting to roll out on newer faster NAS boxes.

I don't even think it has ISCSI, though I might be wrong...

Edited by: "ukez" 27th Dec 2010

Can anyone say what the advantage is of a DVD or Blu-ray being built into the NAS rather than just at a PC please (other than not having to transfer files across a network to archive)...the LG seems to be the only cheap NAS with this facility built in.

Is anyone using these with squeezebox server or is it better to be using a more trusted and tested Netgear or Synology?

BlackCloud

Can anyone say what the advantage is of a DVD or Blu-ray being built … Can anyone say what the advantage is of a DVD or Blu-ray being built into the NAS rather than just at a PC please (other than not having to transfer files across a network to archive)...the LG seems to be the only cheap NAS with this facility built in.Is anyone using these with squeezebox server or is it better to be using a more trusted and tested Netgear or Synology?



Netgear shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Synology. The Synology NAS boxes I can only describe as buttery smooth silky goodness, I haven't used a better consumer NAS box. DS210/211J etc.

Is the DVD writer is full Desktop 5.25" or a slim notebook size. If it is notebook size drive then probabily worth getting the bluray version and use it on notebook.

fishmaster

Netgear shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Synology. The … Netgear shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as Synology. The Synology NAS boxes I can only describe as buttery smooth silky goodness, I haven't used a better consumer NAS box. DS210/211J etc.

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QNAP blows them out of the water matey lol


Edited by: "ukez" 27th Dec 2010

ukez

/QNAP blows them out of the water matey lol



I disagree. Which QNAP NAS beats the Synology DS211J at the same price point? I personally think the Synology interface beats the QNAP interface by a fraction. I presume you'd be thinking of the QNAP TS-210? Have you compared the read/write speed of the TS-210 to the Synology? The Synology thrashes it and it's a hugely important aspect to a NAS.

Give the Synology GUI a whirl here >

synology.com/enu…php

DS211J review >

testfreaks.com/blo…1j/



Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

ukez

Heres custom firmware:http://lg.threnor.de/Other mentions and … Heres custom firmware:http://lg.threnor.de/Other mentions and comments:http://www.avforums.com/forums/networking-nas/1358486-lg-nas-advice-please.htmlOfficial:http://lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6416



Thanks

Stupid question probably but can this be accessed wirelessly with my ps3 or laptops - ie does it have wireless built-in like a router

I currently have a router hard-wired to my main pc which the ps3 & laptop connect to wirelessly

Also is there a similar device which has more than 2 bays ie one that can handle say 4 bays of 2tb each (ie can grow with you over a long period of time). I'm only on 1tb at the moment with my ext h/d but i can see over the years it'll grow & I don't really want to buy another device (ie upgrade it later) if not really needed

I don't currently have a computer network @ home (didn't set one up) just use the router purely for internet & nothing else

Any help would be most appreciated, thanks

ukez

From what i've read the blu ray one is useless if you are expecting to … From what i've read the blu ray one is useless if you are expecting to rip blu ray movies with it, unless some clever sod has since written custom firmware that can accomplish that.The processor and hardware in this is on par with the high end of what came out around 2-3 years ago. Most newer NAS drives now use the ATOM processor and are intel based which are much better, faster and are generally more efficient. This is good enough for basic usage, for basic storage, basic dlna to your TV's, PS3, media server or 360, Samba access and also remote access like via ftp 'n stuff and thats about it.This doesn't have the processor power to transcode movies or run allot of other third party freeware software packages that are starting to roll out on newer faster NAS boxes. I don't even think it has ISCSI, though I might be wrong...



It does have iSCSI.

This allows you to use the blu-ray drive across any computer in the network, allowing you to play, rip and burn.
Edited by: "bazza88" 27th Dec 2010

theonlytazman

Stupid question probably but can this be accessed wirelessly with my ps3 … Stupid question probably but can this be accessed wirelessly with my ps3 or laptops - ie does it have wireless built-in like a routerI currently have a router hard-wired to my main pc which the ps3 & laptop connect to wirelesslyAlso is there a similar device which has more than 2 bays ie one that can handle say 4 bays of 2tb each (ie can grow with you over a long period of time). I'm only on 1tb at the moment with my ext h/d but i can see over the years it'll grow & I don't really want to buy another device (ie upgrade it later) if not really neededI don't currently have a computer network @ home (didn't set one up) just use the router purely for internet & nothing elseAny help would be most appreciated, thanks



This NAS connects with an Ethernet cable to your router, your PS3 then connects via wifi to your router, all traffic is managed via the router, that's how it works. This doesn't need wifi.

If you need 4 bays then I'd look at something better such as QNAP or Synology, that's just my opinion though.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

Original Poster

sswinner

as a backup to your qnap? wow - that's belt and braces ! :-)


Well I have the QNAP 209 and have it for a couple of years now, but it's limited as far as I know to 2 x 1tb drives and I wanted 2tb of space. Having it striped gives me the 2tb (or as close as it can get!) but I lose my redundency and harddrive failure protection.
For the money the LG fits my needs perfectly as I'll still be using my QNap to stream to my PS3 & AC Ryan. Will still give the LG a go at streaming and see how it holds up
Edited by: "BraveSirRobin" 27th Dec 2010

BraveSirRobin

Well I have the QNAP 209 and have it for a couple of years now, but it's … Well I have the QNAP 209 and have it for a couple of years now, but it's limited as far as I know to 2 x 1tb drives and I wanted 2tb of space. Having it striped gives me the 2tb (or as close as it can get!) but I lose my redundency and harddrive failure protection. For the money the LG fits my needs perfectly as I'll still be using my QNap to stream to my PS3 & AC Ryan. Will still give the LG a go at streaming and see how it holds up



Hmm so you're using a striped system as a backup to a mirrored system, that's 100% the wrong one round, the striped system will be less reliable than the mirrored system. It will work but it seems wrong to use a striped system as a backup, just feels wrong, makes me shudder a little hehe. The whole point of a backup system is reliability, a striped system is much less reliable. In fact I point blank refuse to RAID 0 with conventional hard drives. "In effect, the failure rate of the array of storage devices is equal to the sum of the failure rate of each storage device" source : wiki

In summary striping as a means of backup = ugly, which in turn means don't do it unless you like crying a lot.



Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

fishmaster

This NAS connects with an Ethernet cable to your router, your PS3 then … This NAS connects with an Ethernet cable to your router, your PS3 then connects via wifi to your router, all traffic is managed via the router, that's how it works. This doesn't need wifi. If you need 4 bays then I'd look at something better such as QNAP or Synology, that's just my opinion though.



Thanks for the info, so do you mean something like:

amazon.co.uk/dp/…487?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=****&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B002PML096

QNAP TS-410 Turbo All-in-one NAS Server with iSCSI £286.50

Or

amazon.co.uk/Syn…-25

Synology DS410J DS410j 4 Bay NAS Enclosure £270.09

If you have more than 1 hard drive is it similar to a pc (ie shows up as 4 diff h/d's) or does it show all the h/d's as 1 h/d only? so 2x 2tb h/d's shown as 4tb or 2x 2tb?

Also are they easy to set up, thanks again

Original Poster

fishmaster

Hmm so you're using a striped system as a backup to a mirrored system, … Hmm so you're using a striped system as a backup to a mirrored system, that's 100% the wrong one round, the striped system will be less reliable than the mirrored system. It will work but it seems wrong to use a striped system as a backup, just feels wrong, makes me shudder a little hehe. The whole point of a backup system is reliability, a striped system is much less reliable. In fact I point blank refuse to RAID 0 with conventional hard drives. "In effect, the failure rate of the array of storage devices is equal to the sum of the failure rate of each storage device" source : wikiIn summary striping as a means of backup = ugly



lol that's my point :P I had to stripe my QNAP to give me the full 2tb of space. Initially it was mirrored with 2 x 1tb drives but I now need more than 1tb of space. The LG nas is going to be the backup for the striped qnap

theonlytazman

Thanks for the info, so do you mean something … Thanks for the info, so do you mean something like:http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002PML096/ref=asc_df_B002PML0961611487?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=****&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B002PML096QNAP TS-410 Turbo All-in-one NAS Server with iSCSI £286.50Orhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Synology-DS410J-DS410j-Bay-Enclosure/dp/B002U3ZO4C/ref=sr_1_25?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1293486048&sr=1-25Synology DS410J DS410j 4 Bay NAS Enclosure £270.09If you have more than 1 hard drive is it similar to a pc (ie shows up as 4 diff h/d's) or does it show all the h/d's as 1 h/d only? so 2x 2tb h/d's shown as 4tb or 2x 2tb?Also are they easy to set up, thanks again



I do mean either of those yes, although personally I'd go for the Synology DS411J, it should have a faster CPU than the 410J.

It depends whether you set up JBOD, RAID 0 or RAID 1 or other applicable RAID mode, taking your example in to consideration then yes you can have 2 x 2GB = 4GB or 2 x 2GB = 2GB depending on the RAID mode e.g. RAID 0 versus 1. I certainly would not use RAID 0 especially with 4 drives unless you feel suicidal. The whole point of a multi bay NAS to me is to provide reliable backup of sourcable data, therefore nothing less than a proper RAID mirroring mode would be my consideration in a multibay NAS.

To simplify choosing a RAID mode and understanding which mode to use and the resulting available space then try this RAID calculator >

ibeast.com/con…asp




Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

BraveSirRobin

lol that's my point :P I had to stripe my QNAP to give me the full 2tb of … lol that's my point :P I had to stripe my QNAP to give me the full 2tb of space. Initially it was mirrored with 2 x 1tb drives but I now need more than 1tb of space. The LG nas is going to be the backup for the striped qnap



OK and my point is you're insane using a striped array as a backup for a mirrored array and therefore the LG is not the device for the job since it can't provide the mirrored array storage required to backup the QNAP.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010

Original Poster

fishmaster

OK and my point is you're insane using a striped array as a backup for a … OK and my point is you're insane using a striped array as a backup for a mirrored array and therefore the LG is not the device for the job since it can't provide the mirrored array storage required to backup the QNAP.


I would agree but the LG does support Raid 1 (Mirroring) and I beleive I saw a post that the LG also supports 2x2tb drives so it can be mirrored and used as a backup. Having said that even if I stripe the LG aswell I'd be unlucky to lose both NAS' as the same time!
I realise there are much more elegant ways of achieving my aim but this seams like the best way to make use of and supplement the kit I have.

BraveSirRobin

I would agree but the LG does support Raid 1 (Mirroring) and I beleive I … I would agree but the LG does support Raid 1 (Mirroring) and I beleive I saw a post that the LG also supports 2x2tb drives so it can be mirrored and used as a backup. Having said that even if I stripe the LG aswell I'd be unlucky to lose both NAS' as the same time! I realise there are much more elegant ways of achieving my aim but this seams like the best way to make use of and supplement the kit I have.



I believe in doing something properly or not bother doing it at all, when you say best what you mean is cheapest which conversely translates as not the best way of doing things. Striping is a perverse way of backing up there's not really a better way to describe it. Striping is a perverse RAID mode anyway since it's effectively anti-RAID. Striping on conventional hard drives is a miserable affair, I just would never do it.

Edited by: "fishmaster" 27th Dec 2010
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