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Lightwave Smart Lighting & Power Starter Kit - White - £189 @ AO
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Posted 25th Nov 2019

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Edit:

AO have just about sold out of all the LightwaveRF stuff but BT are doing it
using voucher code LIGHTWAVEBF20

BT Shop shop.bt.com/cat…erf

Sockets down to £39
Single Light Switch £45
Double Light Switch £69
Kit (Light and Socket + Hub) £189

All white and Stainless seem to be the same price.

Some great prices if you want the lightwaverf system.

Amazon Are matching some of these prices too. If you prefer.

I am sure this will get shot down just because of the cost. But compared to the usual price its very good.
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Good but way overpriced even with this discount. Not shooting you down, but lightwave have been taking the mick for a long time.
Edited by: "gingertips" 25th Nov 2019
gingertips25/11/2019 12:26

Good but way overpriced even with this discount. Not shooting you down, …Good but way overpriced even with this discount. Not shooting you down, but lightwave have been taking the mick for a long time.


Any good alternatives to lightwave?
Zwave would be the alternative or Zigbee. But those wont do integrated sockets

LightwaveRF is expensive but its;
Good quality
No Neutral Required
British company
HomeKit

Cons.
Expensive
Style might not be to everyones taste.
Need Dimable Bulbs

But Zwave is not cheap. Each relay I have was around £45 and the sensors about the same too..

I now use Zigbee for my sensors and Zwave for relays and LightwaveRF for sockets and lightswitches. Although some of the lights are on Zwave.
Edited by: "berrypi" 25th Nov 2019
PavB25/11/2019 12:30

Any good alternatives to lightwave?



I installed Lightwave a few weeks ago but finding it hard to live with them as they're so unresponsive. Dimming from the button takes ages, ~5 seconds held down before it does anything.

I'm going to try plain retractive switches and Shelly Dimmer modules, works out much cheaper.
Edited by: "daver77" 25th Nov 2019
Mine is very quick. Mostly we ask Alexa or Siri to set the light brightness instead of the physical button.
berrypi25/11/2019 12:46

Mine is very quick. Mostly we ask Alexa or Siri to set the light …Mine is very quick. Mostly we ask Alexa or Siri to set the light brightness instead of the physical button.



From the button, what bulbs do you use?

Mine is fast from Alexa too but screaming 'Set the light to 10%' isn't always appropriate.
berrypi25/11/2019 12:32

Zwave would be the alternative or Zigbee. But those wont do integrated …Zwave would be the alternative or Zigbee. But those wont do integrated socketsLightwaveRF is expensive but its; Good qualityNo Neutral Required British company HomeKitCons.ExpensiveStyle might not be to everyones taste.Need Dimable BulbsBut Zwave is not cheap. Each relay I have was around £45 and the sensors about the same too..I now use Zigbee for my sensors and Zwave for relays and LightwaveRF for sockets and lightswitches. Although some of the lights are on Zwave.


apparntly there are now inegrated sockets for Smarthings (hence Zwave or Zigbee I assume) from Aurora - but I have never seen them for sale ; smartthings.com/gb/…ets
PavB:

Any good alternatives to lightwave?

Check out British Standard for the WiFi power sockets. Someone here posted a deal with them recently. Think about £17.50 per double socket if you order more than 2 from screw fix. screwfix.com/p/b…BwE

For lightswitch try these.

amazon.co.uk/Yagusmart-Compatible-Control-Function-Required/dp/B07Z373K81. I'm told does not require a separate hub.

amazon.co.uk/Yagusmart-Compatible-Control-Function-Required/dp/B081HZCVTD. Requires a smartthings hub or hue hub I think

Much better user experience than buying WiFi enabled bulbs. And way way cheaper than Philips Hue another brand completely ripping off consumers looking for better home automation integration
Edited by: "gingertips" 25th Nov 2019
Watch this video as details the light switch solutions I've posted.
daver7725/11/2019 12:55

From the button, what bulbs do you use?Mine is fast from Alexa too but …From the button, what bulbs do you use?Mine is fast from Alexa too but screaming 'Set the light to 10%' isn't always appropriate.


daver7725/11/2019 12:55

From the button, what bulbs do you use?Mine is fast from Alexa too but …From the button, what bulbs do you use?Mine is fast from Alexa too but screaming 'Set the light to 10%' isn't always appropriate.


I have some bulbs from Waitrose... Own brand type thing 9w... I am going to get some Philips dimable GU10's to see what they are like in the kitchen.

gingertips25/11/2019 13:05

PavB:Any good alternatives to lightwave?Check out British Standard for the …PavB:Any good alternatives to lightwave?Check out British Standard for the WiFi power sockets. Someone here posted a deal with them recently. Think about £17.50 per double socket if you order more than 2 from screw fix. https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-general-900-series-13a-2-gang-sp-smart-socket-white/827GV?tc=ST2&ds_kid=92700049678963836&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAiAlO7uBRANEiwA_vXQ-xP_VQdVnTq9gmtVpGb4MHU8mnLFNxWkl--cFuDENhRdDcFEkzGVuRoCONAQAvD_BwEFor lightswitch try these.amazon.co.uk/Yagusmart-Compatible-Control-Function-Required/dp/B07Z373K81. I'm told does not require a separate hub. amazon.co.uk/Yagusmart-Compatible-Control-Function-Required/dp/B081HZCVTD. Requires a smartthings hub or hue hub I thinkMuch better user experience than buying WiFi enabled bulbs. And way way cheaper than Philips Hue another brand completely ripping off consumers looking for better home automation integration



I am not running the risk of burning my house down for some cheap none safety marked switch... That's what put me off those any way...

The sockets cannot be controlled from a ha based system. Which is a real shame and would be perfect if they could.
Edited by: "berrypi" 25th Nov 2019
I am completely rewiring house. I am looking for dimmer switch which will require neutral. The one posted above is on/off only.

Any suggestions please?
Edited by: "computer3780" 25th Nov 2019
computer378025/11/2019 14:03

I am completely rewiring house. I am looking for dimmer switch which will …I am completely rewiring house. I am looking for dimmer switch which will require neutral. The one posted above is on/off only.Any suggestions please?


I am very jealous. You have a huge choice of zigbee or Zwave switches / relays.

A lot of your choice is going to be defined by what you plan to do with it. If you want homebridge etc. However if you are rewiring your house and putting neutral at every switch it might be worth running Ethernet too.

Have a look at the knx etc

You can then use wired smart switches 😋
berrypi25/11/2019 17:04

I am very jealous. You have a huge choice of zigbee or Zwave switches / …I am very jealous. You have a huge choice of zigbee or Zwave switches / relays. A lot of your choice is going to be defined by what you plan to do with it. If you want homebridge etc. However if you are rewiring your house and putting neutral at every switch it might be worth running Ethernet too. Have a look at the knx etcYou can then use wired smart switches 😋


When you say run Ethernet, is it for smart switch?

I am going to run Ethernet to tv and study and probably bedroom.
Choose the controller and technology to suit your budget and requirements. Some switches do use Ethernet. However the controllers can be very expensive. Just having neutral at the switch will give you a huge choice.

If your running Ethernet run cat6a or 7 since your only doing this once 😋 hopefully.

What controller are you running or wanting to run?
berrypi25/11/2019 20:09

Choose the controller and technology to suit your budget and requirements. …Choose the controller and technology to suit your budget and requirements. Some switches do use Ethernet. However the controllers can be very expensive. Just having neutral at the switch will give you a huge choice. If your running Ethernet run cat6a or 7 since your only doing this once 😋 hopefully. What controller are you running or wanting to run?


Yes cat 6 or 7 definitely. Controller, I want to be able to dim living room spot lights and centre light separately from switch on wall or phone.
Edited by: "computer3780" 25th Nov 2019
computer378025/11/2019 20:42

Yes cat 6 or 7 definitely. Controller, I want to be able to dim living …Yes cat 6 or 7 definitely. Controller, I want to be able to dim living room spot lights and centre light separately from switch on wall or phone.


iPhone? HomeKit Alexa google home etc.

If it’s just a light or two the you could do it with a hue type bulb if you want to allow the use of lights switch then you need to do it at the switch or rose.

Zwave, zigbee or lightwaverf will all do what you want.

It sounds like you will have 2 gang so

one lightwaverf switch and hub (get the kit with the socket too)

Or two Zwave relays (deep back box) and choose your own light switch. The choice is really good as you have neutral. You will still need a Zwave controller (£50) make sure it’s gen5. You can use a usb one and it will plug into your software controller.

Zigbee switches. You have neutral so a big choice. Use a good gateway like conbee 2

With Lightwave you can use homebridge (as long as you an Apple ecosystem household) as a main controller but with the others you will need a software one too. Lightwaverf hub will allow basic automation too.

Look at

OpenHAB 2
Home assistant
Domoticz
SmartThings
Hubitat
Etc
Lots of choice

Once you start. That’s it 😋

I use openHAB and nodered for everything and have a mixture of lightwaverf Zwave zigbee all doing different things. Not one does everything so I only use what I think each does the best.
Edited by: "berrypi" 25th Nov 2019
berrypi25/11/2019 21:34

Look at Hubitat


I'd recommend Hubitat too, just bought one, the hub is tiny! It supports Zigbee and Z-wave but unfortunately not Lightwave as that runs on a different frequency. SmartThings does support Lightwave via a cloud-to-cloud service but it seems to be a bit flaky.

I can't help feeling that iI bought into already dated hardware with LightwaveRF, if it was £20 a switch maybe I wouldn't be so bothered.
Edited by: "daver77" 26th Nov 2019
daver7726/11/2019 09:58

I'd recommend Hubitat too, just bought one, the hub is tiny! It supports …I'd recommend Hubitat too, just bought one, the hub is tiny! It supports Zigbee and Z-wave but unfortunately not Lightwave as that runs on a different frequency. SmartThings does support Lightwave via a cloud-to-cloud service but it seems to be a bit flaky.I can't help feeling that iI bought into already dated hardware with LightwaveRF, if it was £20 a switch maybe I wouldn't be so bothered.


I agree. The price is to high. But I do also have zero issues with it and there api is really easy and powerful.

I find the Zwave more problematic and just as expensive and very limited in the U.K. for those who don’t have neutral at the light switch.

But I guess it’s what works best for you.

Did you order the hubitat from the us? did you have to pay the £30 import cost? Or was it a U.K. distribution
berrypi26/11/2019 11:41

I agree. The price is to high. But I do also have zero issues with it and …I agree. The price is to high. But I do also have zero issues with it and there api is really easy and powerful. I find the Zwave more problematic and just as expensive and very limited in the U.K. for those who don’t have neutral at the light switch. But I guess it’s what works best for you. Did you order the hubitat from the us? did you have to pay the £30 import cost? Or was it a U.K. distribution


I bought from the US, £35 import in total (£10 to parcelforce). There's someone on ebay selling the EU version which is same as UK (same z-wave frequency) but different plug, should have gone with that.

I was planning on getting Shelly Dimmer units but my back boxes are barely 25mm at the moment so will be a lot of work!

I didn't realise the Lightwave Gen2 had an API, might be able to get them working with Hubitat using that.
daver7726/11/2019 12:06

I bought from the US, £35 import in total (£10 to parcelforce). There's s …I bought from the US, £35 import in total (£10 to parcelforce). There's someone on ebay selling the EU version which is same as UK (same z-wave frequency) but different plug, should have gone with that.I was planning on getting Shelly Dimmer units but my back boxes are barely 25mm at the moment so will be a lot of work!I didn't realise the Lightwave Gen2 had an API, might be able to get them working with Hubitat using that.


I will have to look into that.

Thank you.

If you need any code for the api let me know. But it is really well documented.
berrypi26/11/2019 17:27

But it is really well documented.


Cheers, i'll give it a go, looks easy enough!
berrypi26/11/2019 17:27

If you need any code for the api let me know.


Have you tried the API recently, particularly the Auth API, it doesn't seem to be working? I tried via Postman, then via their own website then tried from C#, but get the same error {"error":"invalid_request","error_description":"Missing grant type"}
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