Linx 1010 10.1 inch Windows Tablet (Win10 OS 2GB RAM 32GB Storage) EBAY Manufacturer Refurb £72.99 (electrical-deals)
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Linx 1010 10.1 inch Windows Tablet (Win10 OS 2GB RAM 32GB Storage) EBAY Manufacturer Refurb £72.99 (electrical-deals)

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Found 4th Jul 2016
After making good use of mboarder's excellent find of refurbished Connect 8" tablets (now expired, unfortunately) for the old man, I decided to get something similar for myself to utilise as a tv box/kodi/stream player (already been burned on a cheapy box)

Main attractions include 2GB RAM and a Micro HDMI for TV connection, as well as an SD Card slot for practically unlimited storage (at additional cost) Note that this is a refurb, and as such the office 365 membership might be compromised.

Listing Details:
Condition: Manufacturer refurbished (12 Month Return To Base Parts and Labour Warranty)
Processor: Intel Atom Z3735F Quad Core 1.33GHz
RAM: 2GB
Hardware Connectivity: Micro HDMI
Resolution: 1280 x 800
Internet Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Manufacturer warranty: 1 year
Screen Size: 10.1"
Storage Capacity: 32GB
Ports and Expansions: 1 x Micro-USB 1 x Micro HDMI Port 1 x 3.5mm Headphone Jack
Features: Built-in Front Camera
Operating System: Windows 10
Weight: 590g

If you fancy your chances with a Seller's Refurb, it can be had on EBay for £64.99 here: ebay.co.uk/itm…275?hash=item2110bf9afb:g:pjwAAOSwCM5XPtj8
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Shame about the low res, that's going to be painful on a 10" screen.
I haven't noticed any issues with the screen for day to day use.
Thomas2052

After making good use of mboarder's excellent find of refurbished Connect … After making good use of mboarder's excellent find of refurbished Connect 8" tablets (now expired, unfortunately) for the old man, I decided to get something similar for myself to utilise as a tv box/kodi/stream player (already been burned on a cheapy box)


Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.
AndyRoyd

Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box … Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.



What's the minimum spec you would need for this?
One worrying thing about the Linx is the amount on ebay being sold as not working, more than any other windows tablet. I have been looking for about 3 weeks now for a cheap tables with a standard size usb port. I nearly bought one that required a new battery so thought I would check to see how much a replacement was. Surprise surprise, I couldn't find anyone selling a replacement battery in the UK. Do a search yourself. All I could find was a tear down video on Youtube. Looks like the batteries are bought in and assembled by whoever makes the Linx device.
AndyRoyd

Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box … Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.



A fair point for future-proofing, although my existing catalog is x264

popoyaya

What's the minimum spec you would need for this?



Some info here: x265.com/cre…vc/

Those with x265 support in a similar price range include:
Acer Iconia Tab A3-A20
Lenovo Tab 2 A7-10

Pricier options include:
Amazon Fire HDX 8.9
Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet
Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet

List not exhaustive. You can get software that allows .265 to be played on other chips with reduced quality.
AndyRoyd

Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box … Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.



Where are you finding this plethora of x265 encoded video, other than encoding them yourself? I just checked a particularly popular download site, 11 x265 videos available, 39000 x264 videos available.

It's not surprising a lowly CPU like this can't handle a video codec that currently isn't implemented widely (if at all) in budget hardware. I don't think this is going to be an issue for the majority of people here though. The earlier Linx tablets could handle video throw at it from a lowly Virgin wireless router, so I'd expect this to be fine for the majority of people.

mike
Edited by: "mbuckhurst" 4th Jul 2016
AndyRoyd

Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box … Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.


popoyaya

What's the minimum spec you would need for this?


"Minimum spec" equating to cheapest cost is a low-£19 delivered ex-UK S905-based media box such as ebay.co.uk/itm…603
If you're looking at staying on the Wintel route, a device with Z8300 processor should provide x265/HEVC playback OK. Not sure about Wintel's lowest-cost device for 10bit capability, but certainly more than £19 !
mbuckhurst

Where are you finding this plethora of x265 encoded video, other than … Where are you finding this plethora of x265 encoded video, other than encoding them yourself? I just checked a particularly popular download site, 11 x265 videos available, 39000 x264 videos available.


Mike, you need to get down with the kids. x265/HEVC is far more widely available than you suggest. Yes, I encode my own media, mostly home vid as effectively I half the storage cost whilst maintaining comparable quality: who wants to pay £60 for 2TB of video storage when you can effectively have 4TB for the same cost? And if I ever chose to visit "specialist" sources, I could find 25,000+ items of HEVC/x265 encoded content in a single search such as here
mbuckhurst

It's not surprising a lowly CPU like this can't handle a video codec that … It's not surprising a lowly CPU like this can't handle a video codec that currently isn't implemented widely (if at all) in budget hardware.


Other "budget hardware" has no problem with x265/HEVC even at 10bit. Example £19 media box such as ebay.co.uk/itm…603 and Chinese-sourced items are even cheaper.
AndyRoyd

Mike, you need to get down with the kids. x265/HEVC is far more widely … Mike, you need to get down with the kids. x265/HEVC is far more widely available than you suggest. Yes, I encode my own media, mostly home vid as effectively I half the storage cost whilst maintaining comparable quality: who wants to pay £60 for 2TB of video storage when you can effectively have 4TB for the same cost? And if I ever chose to visit "specialist" sources, I could find 25,000+ items of HEVC/x265 encoded content in a single search such as hereOther "budget hardware" has no problem with x265/HEVC even at 10bit. Example £19 media box such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131860014603 and Chinese-sourced items are even cheaper.



I meant budget PC hardware, not dedicated media boxes.

I last tried the format a couple of years ago, has it improved to the point where it is a viable alternative, when I last tried it had too many problems?

Also, as you seem to be happy, what software are you using? I wouldn't mind giving it a test again, it would be handy if I could reduce the 14TB I currently have dedicated to media ;-)

mike
mbuckhurst

I meant budget PC hardware, not dedicated media boxes. I last tried the … I meant budget PC hardware, not dedicated media boxes. I last tried the format a couple of years ago, has it improved to the point where it is a viable alternative, when I last tried it had too many problems?Also, as you seem to be happy, what software are you using? I wouldn't mind giving it a test again, it would be handy if I could reduce the 14TB I currently have dedicated to media ;-)mike


Would suggest the general consensus is that HEVC has moved beyond being a viable alternative and is approaching the go-to codec of preference. The only reason not to use it would be decrepit encoding/decoding hardware (which includes impatience), otherwise all other features of HEVC are beneficial compared to earlier codecs, where most users will benefit from significantly reduced file sizes / bitrates whilst not compromising quality - ideal for any device that has limited on-device storage, or for reducing if not eliminating buffering due to congested networks. I started encoding my home vid collection via this tutorial for Handbrake HEVC encodes and this tutorial for Staxrip 10bit HEVC encodes. Handbrake has a 10bit function but it is questionable, hence Staxrip for 10bit.
AndyRoyd

Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box … Only issue with Lynx 1010 as a media player (or any other Wintel box with the Z3735F processor) is that it struggles with x265 sources and is simply useless with 10bit x265. If you're OK with streaming full-fat bandwidth, don't have a congested network, rarely download-then-play and/or have no interest in reducing media storage requirements by circa 50% whilst not sacrificing quality, it might not have any impact on you.



Lynx are very very fast believe me!
AndyRoyd

Seriously believe me Lynx are very very very fast, I hope someone will back me up on this.


Edited by: "dhoomdhoom" 5th Jul 2016
dhoomdhoom

Lynx are very very fast believe me! I have one. It's useless for … Lynx are very very fast believe me! I have one. It's useless for attempting to maximise the miniscule onboard storage via HEVC, its simply unwatachable with multiple dropped frames, stuttering, freezing and audio drop outs.Seriously believe me they are very very very fast, I hope someone will back me up on this.


"Very fast" besides being questionable, is nothing to do with decoding ability. This device has a CPU that cannot decode HEVC, period.
AndyRoyd

Just pulling your leg, Lynx is a wild cat
dhoomdhoom

Lynx are very very fast believe me!



How do they compare with a Cougar. I had one approach me in my younger years. She worked very fast indeed haha.
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