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LiteOn IHAS124-19B 24x Internal SATA DVD-SM Drive £12.99 Delivered @ Play
LiteOn IHAS124-19B 24x Internal SATA DVD-SM Drive £12.99 Delivered @ Play

LiteOn IHAS124-19B 24x Internal SATA DVD-SM Drive £12.99 Delivered @ Play

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This drive is perfect for XBOX Disc Creations!!.

Lite-On 24x internal DVD writers offer the fastest DVD recording speed among other similar devices. With these Lite-On DVD writer users can create and share their home videos, back-up critical information, create digital photo albums, watch DVD movies and so much more.

DVD+R 24X maximum by CAV
DVD-R 24X maximum by CAV
DVD+R9 12 maximum by CAV
DVD-R9 12 maximum by CAV
DVD-RAM 12X maximum by PCAV
ReWrite
DVD+RW 8X by Z-CLV
DVD-RW 6X by Z-CLV
Read 16X maximum by CAV
Rand. Access Time 160ms
CD Family :
Write
CD-R 48X by CAV
ReWrite
CD-RW 32X maximum by Z-CLV in UltraSpeed disc
Read 48X maximum by CAV
Rand. Access Time 140ms
Buffer Size : 2MB(MAX)
Features:
SATA interface, Half-Height internal DVD+R / DVD+RW / DVD-R / DVD-RW / DVD+R9/ DVD-R9/ DVD-RAM/ DVD-ROM / CD-R/ CD-RW / CD-ROM combination drive
Support Double Layer DVD+/- R9 Recording Function
Seamless Link avoiding Buffer Under Run error, Automatically adjusting writing strategy & walking OPC to provide the best burning quality
SMART-X function adjusts CD-DA / VCD / DVD data extraction to a fastest allowable speed according to both data request rate from host and disk quality
ABS system reduce vibration and noise during recording and reading
Support Fixed Packet, Variable Packet, TAO, SAO, DAO, Random Access Write, Incremental, sequential recording, restricted overwrite, Layer Jump recording, Raw Mode Burning & Over-Burn
DVD read compliant: DVD single/dual layer (PTP/OTP), DVD-R, DVD-R multi-borders, DVD-RAM, DVD+R, DVD+R multi-sessions, DVD-RW, and DVD+RW
CD read compliant: CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-ROM/XA, Photo-CD, Multi-session, Karaoke-CD, Video-CD, CD-I FMV, CD Extra, CD Plus, CD-R, and CD-RW
Support both 8cm and 12cm disc of CD and DVD family
Supported transfer mode: PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 and Ultra DMA mode 5

66 Comments

Banned

What do you mean Xbox disc creations?

Original Poster

From what I have been reading, it can burn XBOX games Discs, suppose its good for backup's etc...

bigwelsh

What do you mean Xbox disc creations?



Means you are able burn Back up games for Xbox

Just about any modern burner can make back-ups of XBOX 360 discs as long as they support Dual Layer Media. I think maybe this one can create xgd discs, which are basically an overburn of media onto a Dual Layer (I think.....?)

JOHNNY WILKINSON

Just about any modern burner can make back-ups of XBOX 360 discs as long … Just about any modern burner can make back-ups of XBOX 360 discs as long as they support Dual Layer Media. I think maybe this one can create xgd discs, which are basically an overburn of media onto a Dual Layer (I think.....?)



Don't think so. Microsoft have changed the disc structure to ensure "normal" dvd burners cannot write the discs.

Banned

But your xbox needs to be modded to play copies anyway doesn't it?! ... Not worth the risks.

This is the basic model (in a range of burners) that let you burn 100% of the new XGD3 disc's on the 360, you have to flash the firmware on this device also as it won't allow it as standard.

Good price.

Any links to instructions Mike?

Great price. Heat added.

As Mike rightly says it's required to burn the newer XGD3 backups (after it's been flashed with LT Burner Max firmware) to '100%' (using the outer limits of a DL disc) rather than using the original truncate method.



Good deal. Heat added.

Burning (usable) backups of XGD3 disks is on hold atm awaiting new iextreme LT 3.0 firmware and updated abgx360, maybe don't want to jump into this one two footed just yet.

there is no point in buying the 324 as these drives can be crossflashed, if you have ihas 124, you can crossflash to get all features of 524, if you have 224, you can crossflash to get features of 624 etc

What I'm trying to say is buy the cheap base model and enable features by updating the fw.

Ordered one thanks!

The timing of this post could not have been more perfect...cheers OP.

v good deal... just installed and used mine bought from amazon for 16.60 2 days ago... sheiiiitttt

cheers, ordered

the iHas B range will always be the burners to burn the XGD3 (new format) xbox 360 games.

yes, new firmware is needed and is pretty much done for the xboxs but in terms of the "burner max" firmware needed to put on these drives so they can burn an XGD3, that doesnt need updating.

They do not overburn, it's simply the same method that microsoft use, by putting a more bytes per sector method, MS DO NOT USE 9GB discs, they simply use the same ones we do but have changed the bytes per sector, which yes, does mean that some cheaper media cant handle this new ammount of info per sector and means you need to use VERBATIM discs, and still play with a few settings to make the burns acceptable, its not rocket science, but its also not for someone wanting to just stick a blank DL disc in and burn a game.

burning takes, 35 minutes, verifying the data takes 25 minutes and then checking the quality of the burn (most important) takes another 25 minutes. If below par, then you need to change settings, and re-burn, simple, people just thinking it burned ok then its fine are completely wrong.. but that's up to them.

Just paid £16.60 on amazon. This is hot.

Mmmmmm so the new xgd3 games need a newer DVD drive? What abut the disks are the aone disks okay to use?

ummm... I'm not so sure that is correct. I think you'll find it is indeed overburning and it's the consistent quality of the outside non-used area that is in question with cheaper disks (I guess it's a quality issue but it's no issue since it shouldn't be used in industry).

AFAIK, c4eva remade the firmware which removed the burning limit that can be burnt on disk. I'll be happy to be wrong if you can link to your source.

As for these burners not being required it may well be the case if some additional security is not required to be burnt on the disks (it will have to be 100mb or so though for standard burners to be able to burn them).

It's been said that Verbs are the only way but this link puts that in dispute... the only reason I would recommend Verbs is because of the quality of the disk read. Aones will push the limit of the cheap readers in consoles and will burn out the laser at a far greater rate than good quality disks. Having said that though replacement lasers are only a tenner

http://www.ixtreme.net/360-backups/16999-*get-your-cheap-ass-non-verbatim-disks-workin*-%5Btutorial%5D.html

Edit: Happy to have been proven wrong... Thanks for clarifying dudegeeza

Edited by: "TheGimp" 2nd Dec 2011

psd99

Mmmmmm so the new xgd3 games need a newer DVD drive? What abut the disks … Mmmmmm so the new xgd3 games need a newer DVD drive? What abut the disks are the aone disks okay to use?



ATM Verbatim s are the only 100% compatible disks, proven for less bans and working. I use Aone's myself and am disappointed as it means i'll have to use this new pack of 25 before buying some more as I like to just stay on one pack

Amazon were doing this for £11 but its gone back to £16, will order soon

i purchased an optical drive from play.com once. when it turned up it had scratches on the front and the packaging was a mess. It looked like it was a retuned item.

Have 1 of these bought from Amazon for 16 GBP. Hot!

psd99

Mmmmmm so the new xgd3 games need a newer DVD drive? What abut the disks … Mmmmmm so the new xgd3 games need a newer DVD drive? What abut the disks are the aone disks okay to use?


xgd3 discs need modded dvd firmware not newer drives which is supported by these drives. Verbatim discs are better but can try other make like aone.

Hot!
Waiting on my 324 that I ordered from PC World on Sunday, not impressed by the speed of delivery.

rodrodderson

Burning (usable) backups of XGD3 disks is on hold atm awaiting new … Burning (usable) backups of XGD3 disks is on hold atm awaiting new iextreme LT 3.0 firmware and updated abgx360, maybe don't want to jump into this one two footed just yet.



Utter rubbish. There only on hold due to the new dashboard next tuesday. You can still burn them and play XGD3 games provided you havent got the stealth DAE.bin file. You can play and burn all AP2.5 and XGD3 / 2 games NOW.

Personaly would bother about runnigh Kprobe as long as you dont get errors then Truncate work fine. MY Nand / X val and Z value are clean. I have the iHas 624 burner with burnermax and the burns are very unstable ATM.
My truncate burns work and install 100% and as i said, X-val and Z-val and Nand are clean with no flags.

yh ive got working a0nes xgd3's kprobes arent amazing but they work fine. just didnt want to get into a debate,

and my information regarding bytes per sector is correct, cannot divulge any more info than that.

M0nk3h

ATM Verbatim s are the only 100% compatible disks, proven for less bans



Do your homework via ixtreme webby or c4eva Mirc chan bud. NO-ONE has been banned yet due to flags using XGD3. Only muppets who dont update there dash and burn XGD3 properly fail the AP2.5 challenge. ALSO originals have failed that challenge too.

I use Verbatims and burn them using Imageburn ( Truncate method ) on my standard HP burner that came with my pc. Not had a fail yet.

because xgd2's were only ever 7xxx gb of the 8.5gb disc.

xgd3 use the 8.5gb in full but also had to change the bytes per sector to grab the extra ~100 mb

and "crisdo98", im the longest standing member of the abgx360 team, its safe to say i know what im talking about. asking in #fw is just a little beyond their scope lol
;-p
Edited by: "DudeyGeeza" 2nd Dec 2011

bigwelsh

But your xbox needs to be modded to play copies anyway doesn't it?! ... … But your xbox needs to be modded to play copies anyway doesn't it?! ... Not worth the risks.


3 years and going

johnnypanic

Don't think so. Microsoft have changed the disc structure to ensure … Don't think so. Microsoft have changed the disc structure to ensure "normal" dvd burners cannot write the discs.


Yes as Iv'e already stated when mentioning xgd disc's!

Doesnt work any more...Microsoft released a stealth download for the dae.bin file that means ap2.5 codes that validate games dont work as they used to...so you cant play copies online any more.

Still works if youve already flashed your xbox to lt 2.0 and dont play online.

This burner is definitely necessary for the newish xbox game disc 3 because it uses more space than normal burners can get out of dl discs...and its the liteon ihas drives you need because the special firmware to burn the full 8.7gb is for these.

( new firmware for xbox games due after december 6 when the new xbox dash is out, you probably will still need this sort of drive but I wouldnt count on flashed consoles working properly for a while after then.)

new firmware in testing that defeats microsofts new method and eliminates any future work ms could attempt with ap25/dae.bin.

next....

JOHNNY WILKINSON

Just about any modern burner can make back-ups of XBOX 360 discs as long … Just about any modern burner can make back-ups of XBOX 360 discs as long as they support Dual Layer Media. I think maybe this one can create xgd discs, which are basically an overburn of media onto a Dual Layer (I think.....?)

DudeyGeeza

yh ive got working a0nes xgd3's kprobes arent amazing but they work fine. … yh ive got working a0nes xgd3's kprobes arent amazing but they work fine. just didnt want to get into a debate,and my information regarding bytes per sector is correct, cannot divulge any more info than that.


Lot's of people have already added information to this thread so maybe I'm repeating the answer, but basically, yes, it's just an overburn of data. A regular blank dual layer DVD holds up to 7.93gb. XGD2 disks are smaller than that, so fit on easily. XGD3 disks are over 8gb, so ostensibly won't fit on. However, you can burn them with normal DVD writers by truncating the image - the reason this works is that every Xbox 360 disk is exactly the same size, regardless of how much space the game actually takes up - the rest of the space is full of blank, zero padding data. So although XGD3 disks are over 8gb, as long as the game is under 7.93gb (most 360 games are around 5-6gb) it will fit onto a blank disk and the writer will just stop writing the blank data when it gets to the end.

There is another option - overburning, which is forcing the extra data onto to disk, burning beyond the 7.93gb limit. This obviously isn't the best idea and can easily go wrong - how well it works depends on the writer you're using and the brand of blank disk.

The reason that this writer is better than 'normal' ones is that there is custom firmware available for it that means it will officially recognise blank DVDs as being big enough to fit a XGD3 game onto it, automatically overburning for you. Verbatim disks are recommended (as always), but it's possible with other media.

And the reason that overburning is better than truncating is that, of course, Microsoft have ways of checking the disks that you're using and getting information from them to see if you're using real games or backups. If a game is supposed to come on a XGD3 disk, with over 8gb of data (including the padding) it will be really obvious if they check the disk and it's only 7.93gb. As always, the firmware can do its part in sending the expected information back to Microsoft, but they change their methods with every dashboard update, hence the constant need for new custom firmware to counter the new methods (and on selected games, burning new copies every time they update the AP25 protection). So basically, if you keep everything up to date you'll be fine, but when it comes to XGD3 games it's probably better to be on the safe side and go with the overburn method rather than the truncate method, so that all the blank data is present. Plus, there are already games (such as Forza 4) that don't work using the truncate method, so there will probably be more in future (especially if there's ever a game that actually takes up more than 7.93gb of real data).


Are those Aones overburned with a modified IHAS drive? I've only burned one XGD3 game so far, using my Sony Optiarc drive and truncating using ImgBurn. It works absolutely fine but I'm considering buying one of these drives before I burn any more, so that I can overburn them. Does this work with Aones?

yes ive burned xgd3 games on aones. again, they burn, verify, and kprobe sort of ok, but install and pass civ checks and have been doing for weeks (till new dae.bin update) (game was forza4)

burned with an iHas 324 xflashed to 524 (seems to be the better fw)

Nice one mate.. keep up the good work and nice detective work

i have used my trusty pioneer for all the latest releases, cod,bf3,sonic,rage,saints row 3,skyrim,nfs run etc... and they are mostly xgd3.. i use cdclone and use the "write to end of media" method.. all work fine with verbs at 1x.

I do have one of these drives ready to swap for my pioneer but no game has needed me to start using it yet...?
Edited by: "dcdobson2" 2nd Dec 2011

reddragon105

Lot's of people have already added information to this thread so maybe … Lot's of people have already added information to this thread so maybe I'm repeating the answer, but basically, yes, it's just an overburn of data. A regular blank dual layer DVD holds up to 7.93gb. XGD2 disks are smaller than that, so fit on easily. XGD3 disks are over 8gb, so ostensibly won't fit on. However, you can burn them with normal DVD writers by truncating the image - the reason this works is that every Xbox 360 disk is exactly the same size, regardless of how much space the game actually takes up - the rest of the space is full of blank, zero padding data. So although XGD3 disks are over 8gb, as long as the game is under 7.93gb (most 360 games are around 5-6gb) it will fit onto a blank disk and the writer will just stop writing the blank data when it gets to the end.There is another option - overburning, which is forcing the extra data onto to disk, burning beyond the 7.93gb limit. This obviously isn't the best idea and can easily go wrong - how well it works depends on the writer you're using and the brand of blank disk. The reason that this writer is better than 'normal' ones is that there is custom firmware available for it that means it will officially recognise blank DVDs as being big enough to fit a XGD3 game onto it, automatically overburning for you. Verbatim disks are recommended (as always), but it's possible with other media.And the reason that overburning is better than truncating is that, of course, Microsoft have ways of checking the disks that you're using and getting information from them to see if you're using real games or backups. If a game is supposed to come on a XGD3 disk, with over 8gb of data (including the padding) it will be really obvious if they check the disk and it's only 7.93gb. As always, the firmware can do its part in sending the expected information back to Microsoft, but they change their methods with every dashboard update, hence the constant need for new custom firmware to counter the new methods (and on selected games, burning new copies every time they update the AP25 protection). So basically, if you keep everything up to date you'll be fine, but when it comes to XGD3 games it's probably better to be on the safe side and go with the overburn method rather than the truncate method, so that all the blank data is present. Plus, there are already games (such as Forza 4) that don't work using the truncate method, so there will probably be more in future (especially if there's ever a game that actually takes up more than 7.93gb of real data).Are those Aones overburned with a modified IHAS drive? I've only burned one XGD3 game so far, using my Sony Optiarc drive and truncating using ImgBurn. It works absolutely fine but I'm considering buying one of these drives before I burn any more, so that I can overburn them. Does this work with Aones?


Thank you for confirming what I'd said "johnnypanic" should read more carefully
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