Logitech Harmony Companion Remote Control & Hub - £69.99 @ Amazon
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Logitech Harmony Companion Remote Control & Hub - £69.99 @ Amazon

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Found 22nd Nov
Looks like a decent price for the Hub and basic remote.

Can be used to control pretty much everything, TV, Sky Box, Pirate-y streaming box, Amp, Consoles, Lights, Toaster, Other Half. maybe.

Warning: Marketing blurb below...

  • Works With Your Entire Universe - From your TV, cable and gaming console, to your AV receiver and Roku media player-all the way to your smart lights, locks, thermostats, even your Alexa
  • Unlimited Activities - Lower the blinds, dim the lights, fire-up the TV for movie night-all with a tap of the finger.
  • Harmony Hub - Centralizes command of all your devices by controlling them with IR, Wi-Fi or Bluetooth wireless signals
  • Harmony App - Turn your smartphone or tablet into a universal remote (iOS /Android only). Change channels and volume, set up to 50 channel favourites, or trigger multi-device Activities

43 Comments

Garbage software and hub, don’t do it guys, wait for amazon or someone to come along with something better, these things are not worth the money, or the effort.

Original Poster

I've used a Harmony for years, what's wrong with this Hub in particular?

Software is indeed garbage if you want to use it to control things on your phone but so are all the other touch screen ones but it gets the job done setting it up although strangely you need to use the desktop app too to do everything.

Hub's cool too as it'll control stuff shut away and does bluetooth for FireTV etc and allows full control by Alexa and things like Home Assitant. What you really need for a proper Harmony experience is the 950 remote that comes with the Elite or the Ultimate if you can live with it's iffy ergonomics.

The remote with this is the oddity, it only does some of the Harmony functions so you have to use the app too and it also doesn't do IR itself which is a godsend depending on your set up.

If you already have a Hub compatible remote, Touch, Ultimate, 950, this is a better value add on as the Hub on it's own is usually this price when on offer.

I’ve had two of these for years and love them.

Original Poster

Hmm, that's all I wasn't sure about with this, how good is the remote.

I want to be able to trigger an activity that'll turn everything on, including lights, with one remote button. Possible with this?

meathane47 m ago

Garbage software and hub, don’t do it guys, wait for amazon or someone to c …Garbage software and hub, don’t do it guys, wait for amazon or someone to come along with something better, these things are not worth the money, or the effort.


In the interest of balance I completely disagree - have had this hub for years to control multiple devices and would highly recommend it. The app is pretty good and you can even use it with Alexa for enhanced fun!

Original Poster

Couple of questions, for those who have used it:

If you start an Activity from the Android app, does the physical remote "keep up" and know that it should be functioning as you've set it up to do so within the activity?

Can you use physical buttons on the remote itself to start an Activity?

I'm ready to click "buy" but just want to be sure it'll do what I want

johnthehuman7 m ago

Couple of questions, for those who have used it: If you start an Activity …Couple of questions, for those who have used it: If you start an Activity from the Android app, does the physical remote "keep up" and know that it should be functioning as you've set it up to do so within the activity? Can you use physical buttons on the remote itself to start an Activity? I'm ready to click "buy" but just want to be sure it'll do what I want


Personally if I were you, I'd wait for the elite to drop in price (usually comes down to £115-£130 during larger sales). but if you really want this, then afaik it will keep up with any commands that are sent to it through other devices. I have an elite, and if I start an activity on my phone or Alexa, the remote tells me that it's starting - no reason for this to be any different but don't shout at me if it works differently.
Edited by: "sh20" 22nd Nov

Original Poster

It's quite a jump to the Elite, especially at this price. Elite is a bit pricey for what I want, and I'm happier without a touchscreen

johnthehuman9 m ago

Couple of questions, for those who have used it: If you start an Activity …Couple of questions, for those who have used it: If you start an Activity from the Android app, does the physical remote "keep up" and know that it should be functioning as you've set it up to do so within the activity? Can you use physical buttons on the remote itself to start an Activity? I'm ready to click "buy" but just want to be sure it'll do what I want


The physical remote has buttons for three activities, at the top in the pictures, any others would need the app to launch which is where the experience starts getting a bit average as you can potentially have loads of activities which is the real beauty of Harmony. You get through several with what you might consider just one normally, something like, Watch Sky, Watch Sky with sound through the amp, Watch Sky at night with particular light settings, Watch Sky at night with the lights off and so on and so on.

Yes, the app syncs with the Hub. I'm sure you'll love it but you may find it becomes limited quite quickly as your imagination gets the better of you. It's 100% better than the hub on it's own though

+1 for waiting on the elite! But having said that, we have one of these for the bedroom and it's awesome... just remember, this one doesn't appear to have the light buttons.

These remote are a techie's wet dream... and a layman's worst nightmare!!! If you can slog through getting them set up properly they are unbelieveably convenient.

My wife (layman) hasn't even seen the software... But loves our harmony remotes because she can use the under the her blanket without getting her hand cold.

Can anyone tell me if this works in this scenario?

TV in lounge with Firestick

Rest of AV equipment under cupboards stairs - i.e. amp (powering ceiling speakers), SKY, etc.

It's for my brother who doesn't know anything about this stuff. The original remote that did everything has died and thinking this may be and up to date alternative?

johnthehuman6 m ago

It's quite a jump to the Elite, especially at this price. Elite is a bit …It's quite a jump to the Elite, especially at this price. Elite is a bit pricey for what I want, and I'm happier without a touchscreen


If the offers materialise, yes it's heading for twice the price but the remote is so good it's 100% worth it. The touchscreen makes the number of buttons on the remote infinite, the gesture bit is just naff. Using the keypad is a bit odd on the touchscreen but you can set up shortcuts for most things you want to put in so it's just one press and it has a very good favourites function for storing tv channels and displaying them as logo buttons.

I appreciate it's a difficult amount to convince yourself to spend, been there done that 20 years ago when I bought my first but, if you get into it and understand what you can do with them you do get to the point where you can't imagine life without it...sad as that is!

Still holding out for the elite!

User12 m ago

Can anyone tell me if this works in this scenario?TV in lounge with …Can anyone tell me if this works in this scenario?TV in lounge with FirestickRest of AV equipment under cupboards stairs - i.e. amp (powering ceiling speakers), SKY, etc.It's for my brother who doesn't know anything about this stuff. The original remote that did everything has died and thinking this may be and up to date alternative?


Yes, as long as the bluetooth signal is strong enough.

Original Poster

It's cool I haven't got that many activities that I would want to use regularly, three physical buttons would be enough for me.

I've had 'old' Harmony remotes, with plenty of devices, and I'm comfortable with setting up activities. I've completely simplified my AV setup now, using an nVidia Shield for 99% of my media. It's just that the remote is terrible

b1g1an12 m ago

Yes, as long as the bluetooth signal is strong enough.


Thank you for the reply!

So the hub would go in the cupboard and then remote in lounge controlling the TV through IR?

Sorry - just want to be clear.

meathane1 h, 33 m ago

Garbage software and hub, don’t do it guys, wait for amazon or someone to c …Garbage software and hub, don’t do it guys, wait for amazon or someone to come along with something better, these things are not worth the money, or the effort.


Well said. Makes it even more complicated. Logitech won't even support harmony hub I. future as it a failed product.
Edited by: "sam_of_london" 22nd Nov

b1g1an36 m ago

The physical remote has buttons for three activities, at the top in the …The physical remote has buttons for three activities, at the top in the pictures, any others would need the app to launch


I've got the older version of this remote (no physical buttons to control lights and smart plugs) and you can program 6 activities to the top 3 buttons. Short press for one activity, long press for another. I'd expect the newer one to be the same.

I got a broadlink rm pro £20. Basically the same thing as the logitech hub

johnthehuman1 h, 25 m ago

Hmm, that's all I wasn't sure about with this, how good is the remote. I …Hmm, that's all I wasn't sure about with this, how good is the remote. I want to be able to trigger an activity that'll turn everything on, including lights, with one remote button. Possible with this?



The remotes is ok but where it really shines is when paired with Amazon Echo for voice control. I use the two hubs with multi-room Echo's for all my lights, 2 x HDTV's, 2 x Sky boxes. To be honest, I hardly ever use the actual remote any more.
User142 m ago

Can anyone tell me if this works in this scenario?TV in lounge with …Can anyone tell me if this works in this scenario?TV in lounge with FirestickRest of AV equipment under cupboards stairs - i.e. amp (powering ceiling speakers), SKY, etc.It's for my brother who doesn't know anything about this stuff. The original remote that did everything has died and thinking this may be and up to date alternative?



Yes, yes & yes with some clever placement of the two ir blaster included or consider multi-room setup utilising more than one hub nut yes it will work.

cramhead14 m ago

I got a broadlink rm pro £20. Basically the same thing as the logitech hub


Not quite the same, I have both .. the Broadlink RM Pro is good for it's RF protocol which the Logitech doesn't support so I use it for my RF devices but the Harmony hub is far superior for use with IR, WiFi & Bluetooth protocols as the Broadlink only supports RF / IR. I use the Samsung Smartthings hub for Zigby & Z wave protocol devices.

cramhead24 m ago

I got a broadlink rm pro £20. Basically the same thing as the logitech hub


So do I, as useful as it is it's not even close to what you can do with these.

sam_of_london41 m ago

Well said. Makes it even more complicated. Logitech won't even support …Well said. Makes it even more complicated. Logitech won't even support harmony hub I. future as it a failed product.


Are you misreading the reports of them pulling the support for the unloved Harmony Link, loads of others have, they also seem to miss all the reports saying they will give a new Hub free to those with them.

b1g1an1 h, 10 m ago

If the offers materialise, yes it's heading for twice the price but the …If the offers materialise, yes it's heading for twice the price but the remote is so good it's 100% worth it. The touchscreen makes the number of buttons on the remote infinite, the gesture bit is just naff. Using the keypad is a bit odd on the touchscreen but you can set up shortcuts for most things you want to put in so it's just one press and it has a very good favourites function for storing tv channels and displaying them as logo buttons.I appreciate it's a difficult amount to convince yourself to spend, been there done that 20 years ago when I bought my first but, if you get into it and understand what you can do with them you do get to the point where you can't imagine life without it...sad as that is!


Wouldn't it be better to buy this and then use Alexa rather than spending another £100 or so on Elite remote?
Edited by: "stainless77" 22nd Nov

I was looking at getting the elite or ultimate but they don't support yeelight bulbs so decided against it...

stainless7710 m ago

Wouldn't it be better to buy this and then use Alexa rather than spending …Wouldn't it be better to buy this and then use Alexa rather than spending another £100 or so on Elite remote?


That's more personal preference but there are some things far better handled by a physical remote, imagine fast forwarding through ads and trying to stop it at a particular point (something that's crap with the app too), imagine trying to get Alexa to hear you over a loud film, she's a bit random at normal volumes too.

I tend to use her to switch initial activities and when just casually watching while doing something else with the volume lower, immediate response doesn't really matter then. I'm also a die hard real button not looking at the remote person which will obviously bias any opinion

intuder12 m ago

I was looking at getting the elite or ultimate but they don't support …I was looking at getting the elite or ultimate but they don't support yeelight bulbs so decided against it...


I use mine with yeelights but to be fair I use Home Assistant to control them which exposes them as Hue lights which Harmony can control out of the box. Manual control of the lights is something I nearly always do with Alexa nowadays though.

Using them with HA also means I can block them from talking to China all the time, they're surprisingly chatty!
Edited by: "b1g1an" 22nd Nov

heat from me..harmony hub is great

for £70, or 100+ with the elite remote, this should be able to do one crucial thing that a 5 year old iphone can do, and that is control devices over LAN. if it could, it could control my upstairs firetv despite that it's in a different room. my phone (which is on my LAN) can press the home button on my bedroom firetv, whic boots the tv through HDMI CEC. this thing is also on the lan, and in theory should also be able to do it, but it cant

won't boot the ps4 cos they wont pay the fee
media buttons on the remote dont work in sky go, (i don't care whose fault this is, sky or logitech, but it isn't mine)
software is ridiculous, so so bad
updating favourites is garbage, doesn't show BBC1 HD for example (but does BBC2 HD on BTTV)
hue lights/scenes etc don't update whenyou change them, or add bulbs
the elite remote has the worst touch screen ever
'alexa, tell harmony to turn on the tv' instead of 'alexa turn on the tv'. yeah you can use Yonomi, but that isn't great either, and not easy to use
nest integration is just pointless, just use your phone or alexa
Edited by: "meathane" 22nd Nov

meathane4 h, 7 m ago

'alexa, tell harmony to turn on the tv' instead of 'alexa turn on the tv'. …'alexa, tell harmony to turn on the tv' instead of 'alexa turn on the tv'. yeah you can use Yonomi, but that isn't great either, and not easy to usenest integration is just pointless, just use your phone or alexa



They now address that issue

support.myharmony.com/en-…exa

Original Poster

Spent a couple of hours setting this up this evening, it works amazingly well. The setup using my Android phone was surprisingly simple, compared to the old clunky PC-based harmony setup.

The hub is in the corner of the lounge, opposite the TV / amp setup, no problems with IR signals.

It simply works. Main activity is watching stuff on the Shield, it powers on the TV, amp and Shield, plus the lounge Hue lamps and light strip to a preset setting, then controls the Shield and amp perfectly.

The three activity buttons at the top actually "double-up" so you can store 6 activities on the remote (short press and long press can perform a different task on every single button).

Works ok with the PS4 as well, interesting that it can control the PS4 but can't turn it on. Apparently even the Sony remote can't turn it on, it has to be done from a Dualshock4, so it's hardly Logitechs fault. I managed to setup a fairly long-winded trawl through the TV menus to enable and disable Game Mode when I start the PS4, very handy.

All in all, well impressed. Much cheaper than previous Harmony's, with the added bonus of controlling Hue lights too.

User122nd Nov

Thank you for the reply!So the hub would go in the cupboard and then …Thank you for the reply!So the hub would go in the cupboard and then remote in lounge controlling the TV through IR?Sorry - just want to be clear.


Sorry if I am too late to the party... Wanted to make sure everything is as clear as possible when it comes to these remotes!

The companion DOES NOT HAVE AN IR TRANSMITTER... It can only use the hub. The hub comes with two sets of IR extenders (cables which you plug in the hub and route out of the cupboard to control other items... If you can get that cable in to the room with the TV you'll be fine. If not, you'll need an Elite - as the remote has IR as well as being able to use the three channels on the hub.

crabby

johnthehuman17 h, 25 m ago

Spent a couple of hours setting this up this evening, it works amazingly …Spent a couple of hours setting this up this evening, it works amazingly well. The setup using my Android phone was surprisingly simple, compared to the old clunky PC-based harmony setup. The hub is in the corner of the lounge, opposite the TV / amp setup, no problems with IR signals. It simply works. Main activity is watching stuff on the Shield, it powers on the TV, amp and Shield, plus the lounge Hue lamps and light strip to a preset setting, then controls the Shield and amp perfectly. The three activity buttons at the top actually "double-up" so you can store 6 activities on the remote (short press and long press can perform a different task on every single button). Works ok with the PS4 as well, interesting that it can control the PS4 but can't turn it on. Apparently even the Sony remote can't turn it on, it has to be done from a Dualshock4, so it's hardly Logitechs fault. I managed to setup a fairly long-winded trawl through the TV menus to enable and disable Game Mode when I start the PS4, very handy. All in all, well impressed. Much cheaper than previous Harmony's, with the added bonus of controlling Hue lights too.


Just as an FYI... depending on TV/amp model etc there are hidden "discreet" IR codes which the harmony help guys can add to you devices... It means, for example, instead of having the remote cycle through inputs (HDMI1,HDMI2 etc) it can simple go straight to a source. Obviously, it's cleaner and quicker... but it also means the remote is less likely to get in to a situation where it gets out of sync with the current activity.

crabby

armybike22nd Nov

They now address that issue They now address that issue https://support.myharmony.com/en-gb/harmony-experience-with-amazon-alexa


Thanks! Didn't know it had been released!!!

Original Poster

crabby095 m ago

Just as an FYI... depending on TV/amp model etc there are hidden …Just as an FYI... depending on TV/amp model etc there are hidden "discreet" IR codes which the harmony help guys can add to you devices... It means, for example, instead of having the remote cycle through inputs (HDMI1,HDMI2 etc) it can simple go straight to a source. Obviously, it's cleaner and quicker... but it also means the remote is less likely to get in to a situation where it gets out of sync with the current activity.crabby


It works pretty well for Inputs etc, no issues there.

To enable Game Mode, the Samsung TV doesn't have a discreet code.
So on my start activity for PS4, I have got the following, and it seems long, but it works seamlessly. For the End activity, I simply have the same sequence, but with Direction Up, at the end.


Menu
Direction Right
Direction Down
Select
Direction Down
Select
Direction Down
Select
Return
Return
Return

Original Poster

I'd literally drive myself mad, shouting at Google Home or Alexa to change the volume

The remote is excellent; I can use Google Home to start an activity, using Assistant Shortcuts I can say "Hey Google, I want to listen to some music" and it'll trigger the relevant activity in the Hub, set the lights, find the right input on the amp etc, but if I'm watching something or listening to an album, I don't want to have to say "Hey Google, ask Harmony to Pause" or "Hey Google, ask Harmony to turn the volume up a bit" each time I want to do something very basic.

IMO for most applications the remote is still a necessity. Unless you truly can't live without voice activated magic.

johnthehuman26 m ago

I'd literally drive myself mad, shouting at Google Home or Alexa to change …I'd literally drive myself mad, shouting at Google Home or Alexa to change the volume The remote is excellent; I can use Google Home to start an activity, using Assistant Shortcuts I can say "Hey Google, I want to listen to some music" and it'll trigger the relevant activity in the Hub, set the lights, find the right input on the amp etc, but if I'm watching something or listening to an album, I don't want to have to say "Hey Google, ask Harmony to Pause" or "Hey Google, ask Harmony to turn the volume up a bit" each time I want to do something very basic. IMO for most applications the remote is still a necessity. Unless you truly can't live without voice activated magic.


Well in my case it's an absolute God send to be able to do those things as I'm severely physically disabled electric wheelchair user, suffering from partial paralysis of my Body. That's the main reason why I started down the home automation path... it's given me so much freedom & independence. Without today's technology my life would be well lets just a little bit more complicated.

LiTtLE_DeE56 m ago

Well in my case it's an absolute God send to be able to do those things as …Well in my case it's an absolute God send to be able to do those things as I'm severely physically disabled electric wheelchair user, suffering from partial paralysis of my Body. That's the main reason why I started down the home automation path... it's given me so much freedom & independence. Without today's technology my life would be well lets just a little bit more complicated.


Love that you can choose channels with Alexa... just waiting (hoping?) Netflix and prime video get integrated at some point... Don't know if you're aware but you can already ask Plex to play the next show in a season or a film by name?
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