Lowest ever price for 3tb 7200 Toshiba P300 £66.97 at Amazon
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Lowest ever price for 3tb 7200 Toshiba P300 £66.97 at Amazon

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Found 21st Jan
  • High performance, reliable internal hard drive
  • Data protection technology
  • 7200 rpm, 64MB buffer
  • Perfect for challenging applications including gaming and photo/video editing
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theshadowman23 m ago

I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I …I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I wouldn't buy Toshiba drives again.


If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, these are their performance drives that are not rated for 24/7 operation and can't handle vibrations of nearby drives. If you are using drives 24/7 in a server you get WD Reds, Toshiba N300 or Seagate IronWolf drives, all of which are validated for server use!
Edited by: "NeoSphere" 21st Jan
Down 2p since last posted lol
mikerr44 m ago

Wonder what "data protection technology" is ?


Something TalkTalk don't bother with.
Edited by: "tightar5e" 21st Jan
k11894667 h, 9 m ago

The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing …The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing errors. £67 for 3TB buy it today and sell it a couple of years later for £40 (while it is still in warranty) . The price of HDDs is not declining as much so you could have a very low cost of ownership. Unless, of course flash drives become cheaper, which they most likely won't to a HDD standard for at least an another decade.



Not very ethical to on-sell a failing drive.
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Is this any good for a cctv dvr
that is a very good price but i am after the n300 version instead, well found thou!
I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I wouldn't buy Toshiba drives again.
theshadowman23 m ago

I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I …I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I wouldn't buy Toshiba drives again.


If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, these are their performance drives that are not rated for 24/7 operation and can't handle vibrations of nearby drives. If you are using drives 24/7 in a server you get WD Reds, Toshiba N300 or Seagate IronWolf drives, all of which are validated for server use!
Edited by: "NeoSphere" 21st Jan
I'm running 4 of these in a Microserver Gen 8.. Been great so far.
Down 2p since last posted lol
Just waiting for the SSD fanatics to come and trash this deal, proclaiming that no one will ever need more than 128GB of space.
bjrosl23 m ago

Just waiting for the SSD fanatics to come and trash this deal, proclaiming …Just waiting for the SSD fanatics to come and trash this deal, proclaiming that no one will ever need more than 128GB of space.


I have over 8TB of data.

Are these the same fanatics that also swear by the sim only 250mb data per month deals?.
Wonder what "data protection technology" is ?
mikerr44 m ago

Wonder what "data protection technology" is ?


Something TalkTalk don't bother with.
Edited by: "tightar5e" 21st Jan
Heavy weight bomb. Can kill someone
Bought this yesterday from Amazon and installed it today. Great for the price, wish I posted it on hukd!
NeoSphere6 h, 24 m ago

If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, …If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, these are their performance drives that are not rated for 24/7 operation and can't handle vibrations of nearby drives. If you are using drives 24/7 in a server you get WD Reds, Toshiba N300 or Seagate IronWolf drives, all of which are validated for server use!


Well it's not quite as simple as that. My desktop has four drives in a pretty tight drive cage, and it goes 24hrs per day. I realise NAS drives are optimum, but does this really preclude a desktop drive inside a decent NAS or server?
Tempted, need a new drive and was let down on another model that never came back in stock. I really wanted to go SSHD, but with the price difference on that vs this, makes this Tosh model pretty tempting. Plus it has an extra 1tb over the SSHD model I was eyeing up. Itchy purchase finger...
Edited by: "NeoTrix" 21st Jan
AndyCooper6621st Jan

Well it's not quite as simple as that. My desktop has four drives in a …Well it's not quite as simple as that. My desktop has four drives in a pretty tight drive cage, and it goes 24hrs per day. I realise NAS drives are optimum, but does this really preclude a desktop drive inside a decent NAS or server?


I'd have to agree, I turned an old pc into a plex server a few years ago and I've chucked random drives in there whenever I saw I good deal, it runs 24/7 and the only one I've had problems with with was a wd red 3tb funnily enough.

Just back up everything you can and assume that all your drives are going to fail at any moment, just because it's "made for a nas" doesn't mean it's gonna last any better than one of these really, if your data is important back it up then back it up again and again if you have to.
NeoSphere8 h, 41 m ago

If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, …If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, these are their performance drives that are not rated for 24/7 operation and can't handle vibrations of nearby drives. If you are using drives 24/7 in a server you get WD Reds, Toshiba N300 or Seagate IronWolf drives, all of which are validated for server use!


I very much doubt it’s 24/7 if it’s just for a Plex library.
bought the same HDD from aria pc for same exact price 2-3 weeks ago
p0rn
NeoSphere17 h, 43 m ago

If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, …If you bought these p300 drives for a server and they failed thats on you, these are their performance drives that are not rated for 24/7 operation and can't handle vibrations of nearby drives. If you are using drives 24/7 in a server you get WD Reds, Toshiba N300 or Seagate IronWolf drives, all of which are validated for server use!


The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing errors. £67 for 3TB buy it today and sell it a couple of years later for £40 (while it is still in warranty) . The price of HDDs is not declining as much so you could have a very low cost of ownership. Unless, of course flash drives become cheaper, which they most likely won't to a HDD standard for at least an another decade.
AndyCooper6618 h, 26 m ago

Well it's not quite as simple as that. My desktop has four drives in a …Well it's not quite as simple as that. My desktop has four drives in a pretty tight drive cage, and it goes 24hrs per day. I realise NAS drives are optimum, but does this really preclude a desktop drive inside a decent NAS or server?



ANY drive should be capable of running 24/7 for a year or more without issues, vibration or not, they have to be built fairly resilient as a matter of course and have MHBF ratings....etc..... to show you on "average" to expect say 25000 hrs of continuos and solid operation. I don't think this NAS business is really that big a deal at consumer level, and most posts I have read suggest that its firmware differences mostly. Your environment will be important and obviously dont kick the drive or case around - things like heat are a different story - that can screw things up real quick. All drives can fail at ANY time or have an issue - your hope if to get an immediate warranty response/swap out and that you have a backup on RAID or externally. I keep backups of critical stuff (mainly family photos) on external drives as a parent backup offiline, and a selection on the cloud (so data is online, offline, and offshore.......). Just in case..... ;-)
k11894667 h, 9 m ago

The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing …The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing errors. £67 for 3TB buy it today and sell it a couple of years later for £40 (while it is still in warranty) . The price of HDDs is not declining as much so you could have a very low cost of ownership. Unless, of course flash drives become cheaper, which they most likely won't to a HDD standard for at least an another decade.



Not very ethical to on-sell a failing drive.
toshiba arent the best ive heard, i just use seagate
NeoTrix23 h, 7 m ago

Tempted, need a new drive and was let down on another model that never …Tempted, need a new drive and was let down on another model that never came back in stock. I really wanted to go SSHD, but with the price difference on that vs this, makes this Tosh model pretty tempting. Plus it has an extra 1tb over the SSHD model I was eyeing up. Itchy purchase finger...


i have a sshd and a normal 7200rpm drive and i don't see much difference with either
k118946612 h, 39 m ago

The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing …The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing errors. £67 for 3TB buy it today and sell it a couple of years later for £40 (while it is still in warranty) . The price of HDDs is not declining as much so you could have a very low cost of ownership. Unless, of course flash drives become cheaper, which they most likely won't to a HDD standard for at least an another decade.



seriously...? you would do that to someone for the sake of a few quid esp when you know what a pita it is when a drive fails? wow!...... This is the kind of attitude which ruins genuine 2nd hand selling imo.
skeeter9095 h, 45 m ago

ANY drive should be capable of running 24/7 for a year or more without …ANY drive should be capable of running 24/7 for a year or more without issues, vibration or not, they have to be built fairly resilient as a matter of course and have MHBF ratings....etc..... to show you on "average" to expect say 25000 hrs of continuos and solid operation. I don't think this NAS business is really that big a deal at consumer level, and most posts I have read suggest that its firmware differences mostly. Your environment will be important and obviously dont kick the drive or case around - things like heat are a different story - that can screw things up real quick. All drives can fail at ANY time or have an issue - your hope if to get an immediate warranty response/swap out and that you have a backup on RAID or externally. I keep backups of critical stuff (mainly family photos) on external drives as a parent backup offiline, and a selection on the cloud (so data is online, offline, and offshore.......). Just in case..... ;-)


I will keep it simple in that not all drives are designed the same. So they are designed to support different operations this is more around usage then just the function. For example I have WD Greens in my NAS because honestly I dont tend to hammer the server in the way you might typically a NAS drive.

It is mainly a document archive store that maybe gets written to once or twice a week and is used to play back the archive 3-4 hours a week. So for me having NAS rated drives is pretty pointless. I think that is what your are suggesting. In most cases the drives if they fail or not come down to a number of factors.

In the past two months I have lost 2 WD drives one after about 4 years and the other one WD blue after less than one month. In both cases the drives are taking a hammering as used as a scratch disc. I dont blame WD blue for failing nor would I consider it bad company in truth I just go unlucky. I have a lot of WD drives and honestly most have been fine. I dont know what caused the error maybe I did over hammer it but then again I might have just been unlucky.

It is the same with this drive. I bought one to stick in a retro gaming machine and has been fine no issues at all. So should I say that Toshiba are better drives than WD because one failed and other did not ? No it is just not that simple.
k118946613 h, 3 m ago

The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing …The best thing would have been to sell them when smart scan starts showing errors. £67 for 3TB buy it today and sell it a couple of years later for £40 (while it is still in warranty) . The price of HDDs is not declining as much so you could have a very low cost of ownership. Unless, of course flash drives become cheaper, which they most likely won't to a HDD standard for at least an another decade.


Are u sure they aren't dropping in price in 2 years I'm guessingthey will be around 1.5 times capacity for the same price as today or u recon they will be same price.
skeeter9096 h, 27 m ago

ANY drive should be capable of running 24/7 for a year or more without …ANY drive should be capable of running 24/7 for a year or more without issues, vibration or not, they have to be built fairly resilient as a matter of course and have MHBF ratings....etc..... to show you on "average" to expect say 25000 hrs of continuos and solid operation. I don't think this NAS business is really that big a deal at consumer level, and most posts I have read suggest that its firmware differences mostly. Your environment will be important and obviously dont kick the drive or case around - things like heat are a different story - that can screw things up real quick. All drives can fail at ANY time or have an issue - your hope if to get an immediate warranty response/swap out and that you have a backup on RAID or externally. I keep backups of critical stuff (mainly family photos) on external drives as a parent backup offiline, and a selection on the cloud (so data is online, offline, and offshore.......). Just in case..... ;-)


How can you just dismiss vibrations like that? What has MHBF got to do with running a drive in a concentrated factor with many other drives all generating heat & vibrations? MHBF is usually calculated in a best case scenario environment, in the case of a non-intensive use hard drive it'll be a single drive in a PC in which case it'll easily be dissipating its own heat and there will be next to no external vibrations.

Obviously is you then say stick it in a server with 3 other hard drives then the middle drives are really soaking up heat which is going to impact drive longevity when it's not built to run in that environment.

You need to ideally use a drive built to the environment you're running it in if not then be prepared to accept that drive life may be shortened.
theshadowman21st Jan

I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I …I bought 4 of these in 2015 for a Plex server, 2 have failed so far. I wouldn't buy Toshiba drives again.



To be fair its not just Toshiba, 3tb drives in general have had very poor reliability for some reason. Their newer and larger drives are much more reliable.
Great price
Might be a good hard drive upgrade for a PC Tower I've just got. I won't bore people with the bargain though. Heat added.
SajidAli-ad629.0611321st Jan

Is this any good for a cctv dvr


Nope, due to the continuous write/rewrites I would not recommend this (For what it's worth, I work for what is currently the largest CCTV manufacturer in the world, which is where I am drawing my experience from).

My recommendation, would be a WD Purple or a Seagate Skyhawk.

Hope this helps.
guitarbloke2 h, 31 m ago

Nope, due to the continuous write/rewrites I would not recommend this (For …Nope, due to the continuous write/rewrites I would not recommend this (For what it's worth, I work for what is currently the largest CCTV manufacturer in the world, which is where I am drawing my experience from).My recommendation, would be a WD Purple or a Seagate Skyhawk. Hope this helps.


Thanks
Rich4423 h, 23 m ago

How can you just dismiss vibrations like that? What has MHBF got to do …How can you just dismiss vibrations like that? What has MHBF got to do with running a drive in a concentrated factor with many other drives all generating heat & vibrations? MHBF is usually calculated in a best case scenario environment, in the case of a non-intensive use hard drive it'll be a single drive in a PC in which case it'll easily be dissipating its own heat and there will be next to no external vibrations.Obviously is you then say stick it in a server with 3 other hard drives then the middle drives are really soaking up heat which is going to impact drive longevity when it's not built to run in that environment.You need to ideally use a drive built to the environment you're running it in if not then be prepared to accept that drive life may be shortened.


Sorry but desktop PC's also use multiple HDDs, does that mean this drive can't be used in conjunction with others in that environment too because of the vibrations and heat.. I think not. If it fails to work properly with other drives connected near it,as you would have it ,even in PC use let alone NAS, then its clearly not made very well
Edited by: "BB89." 23rd Jan
Any good internal HD (2.5") deals? Need one for my laptop... 1tb preferably.
MynameisM22nd Jan

Are u sure they aren't dropping in price in 2 years I'm guessingthey will …Are u sure they aren't dropping in price in 2 years I'm guessingthey will be around 1.5 times capacity for the same price as today or u recon they will be same price.


I am pretty sure they wont drop the price because of general inflation in hdd prices. For example, you don't see 1tb hdds dropping in prices anymore, do you?
skeeter90922nd Jan

Not very ethical to on-sell a failing drive.


And a little risky given that ebay buyers are very nit-picky. You are selling a used drive. Eventually everything fails, especially a used drive. You can always put your smart report in the listing.
even better today with the 10 quid off using BIGTHANKS
From my purchase in 2014...

Toshiba 3TB 3.5" SATA-III Hard Drive - 7200RPM 64MB Cache
QF 481473
QTY 3
Price £64.99
Status Shipped Help
Est delivery date 28/02/2014
fiqqer22nd Jan

To be fair its not just Toshiba, 3tb drives in general have had very poor …To be fair its not just Toshiba, 3tb drives in general have had very poor reliability for some reason. Their newer and larger drives are much more reliable.


Case in point the sea gate class action in USA. I got a Refund on one 2 yrs later ...
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