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Mac mini 1.4ghz 4th Gen Core i5, 4GB, 500GB HD - PC World £234 (instore)
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Ancient. It’ll run slower than a 40stone man.
If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 2012 model on eBay for around this price would be a better option
I rather this bad boy.
38014793.jpgIt looks so much Cooler
Edited by: "leegp79" 8th Jul
The national animal of Scotland, so I wasn’t far out!
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Unicorn hunt?
If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 2012 model on eBay for around this price would be a better option
The national animal of Scotland, so I wasn’t far out!
Direct link please, as I cant find it for that price
Ancient. It’ll run slower than a 40stone man.
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 14:33

Ancient. It’ll run slower than a 40stone man.


Depends on what you want it to do. As a little server or basic browsing/home use machine it’ll do fine.

I know because my mums got one, no issue at all with normal day to day tasks such as email, web browsing, photographs, movies etc

Rock solid machine, not had a single issue with it in the 4 years she’s owned it
david_robinson9407/07/2019 14:37

Depends on what you want it to do. As a little server or basic …Depends on what you want it to do. As a little server or basic browsing/home use machine it’ll do fine.I know because my mums got one, no issue at all with normal day to day tasks such as email, web browsing, photographs, movies etcRock solid machine, not had a single issue with it in the 4 years she’s owned it


Plus it’ll get updates for years, be supported by the company rather than ignored and won’t slow down year after year on purpose by the manufacturer
It was slow when launched 6 or so years ago. Cheap if you really want one though.
LadyEleanor07/07/2019 15:09

It was slow when launched 6 or so years ago. Cheap if you really want one …It was slow when launched 6 or so years ago. Cheap if you really want one though.


Would it be OK for media centre / streaming films?
rich247607/07/2019 15:14

Would it be OK for media centre / streaming films?


I use mine solely as a Plex Server with two external hard drives and it works very well
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 14:33

Ancient. It’ll run slower than a 40stone man.


Wrong. You've never used one of these have you?
Smithers3707/07/2019 16:17

Wrong. You've never used one of these have you?


Yes I have and we’ve got rid of tonnes of these at work as they are completely rubbish. If you do basic web surfing they ok, if you do anything more expect to be drawing your pension before it manages to do it. Not even SSD......not upgradable either.
Edited by: "cmdr_elito" 7th Jul
david_robinson9407/07/2019 14:37

Depends on what you want it to do. As a little server or basic …Depends on what you want it to do. As a little server or basic browsing/home use machine it’ll do fine.I know because my mums got one, no issue at all with normal day to day tasks such as email, web browsing, photographs, movies etcRock solid machine, not had a single issue with it in the 4 years she’s owned it


You’ve hit the nail on the head....she’s owned it 4 years. The world has moved on 4 years in the technology world that is a lifetime so why would it be a good spec to buy now new? It’s going to feel slow as anything and in a year or two they will bin it. Better to stump up the extra and buy the latest one which will be good for 4-5 years.
Edited by: "cmdr_elito" 7th Jul
Where is this deal Op?
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 16:36

You’ve hit the nail on the head....she’s owned it 4 years. The world has mo …You’ve hit the nail on the head....she’s owned it 4 years. The world has moved on 4 years in the technology world that is a lifetime so why would it be a good spec to buy now new? It’s going to feel slow as anything and in a year or two they will bin it. Better to stump up the extra and buy the latest one which will be good for 4-5 years.


I suppose it depends on your usage. It wasn't exactly a performance beast when it was released but that didn't stop it doing the basics extremely well.

If your usage requirements doesn't change in the next year or two you'd have no reason to replace it. It should get at least another 3 versions of Mac OS Support before it is dropped, and even after that there will be security updates etc for it.

You could buy a new one now at full price, but for £234, if you already have a Keyboard, Mouse and a screen, it'll give you years of faithful service.
Edited by: "david_robinson94" 7th Jul
I rather this bad boy.
38014793.jpgIt looks so much Cooler
Edited by: "leegp79" 8th Jul
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 16:31

Yes I have and we’ve got rid of tonnes of these at work as they are c …Yes I have and we’ve got rid of tonnes of these at work as they are completely rubbish. If you do basic web surfing they ok, if you do anything more expect to be drawing your pension before it manages to do it. Not even SSD......not upgradable either.


Not an SSD and not upgradable? You think they soldered a HDD to the mainboard or something???
Plug in a usb ssd and boot from that and it will fly!
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 16:31

Yes I have and we’ve got rid of tonnes of these at work as they are c …Yes I have and we’ve got rid of tonnes of these at work as they are completely rubbish. If you do basic web surfing they ok, if you do anything more expect to be drawing your pension before it manages to do it. Not even SSD......not upgradable either.


This is completely false, so you have either never used one or are intentionally lying. The hard drive is fully upgradeable
The_Heroic_Hulk07/07/2019 14:19

If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 20 …If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 2012 model on eBay for around this price would be a better option


Why Apple thought soldered RAM and just 4GB... well, we know why don’t we. Mobile CPU which is fine but RAM will bottleneck before anything else really, hard disk can be swapped for SSD but it’s a massively complicated job. No wonder this model was so unloved... this will be fine for basic stuff but it’s basically a headless Haswell generation laptop with 4GB RAM. That’ll worsen as SSDs are mainstream now so that’s what they’ll program software for.

Dev18507/07/2019 19:36

This is completely false, so you have either never used one or are …This is completely false, so you have either never used one or are intentionally lying. The hard drive is fully upgradeable


It’s way more complex than it should be that if you had them at work, the opportunity cost of your IT department upgrading them by hand is labour cost prohibitive. But yes, you can upgrade them but don’t think it’s a 5 minute job... Apple must’ve done it on purpose. Just as with the iMac 21.5”, another overly integrated nuisance machine...
Edited by: "plewis00" 7th Jul
This model represents everything wrong with the 2014 Mac Mini "upgrade". It was a middle finger from Apple to loyal users; intentionally crippling it with soldered, un-upgradeable RAM and dual-core CPUs across the range.

The HDD is an insulting 5400rpm one, although you can upgrade it (but it'll void your warranty and it's not easy). Booting from a USB 3.0 SSD is a safer option. The fixed 4Gb RAM is stingy for anything other than basic use and the processor is ancient and fairly puny. The onboard graphics also cannot drive a 4K screen at 60Hz, so you're limited to 1080p or even 1440p.

Having said all that...for £234 you're getting a quiet computer that may be fine for basic use complete with Apple's software - iWork, iMovie, Garageband etc. Just don't expect it to fly.
Interloper07/07/2019 19:45

This model represents everything wrong with the 2014 Mac Mini "upgrade". …This model represents everything wrong with the 2014 Mac Mini "upgrade". It was a middle finger from Apple to loyal users; intentionally crippling it with soldered, un-upgradeable RAM and dual-core CPUs across the range.The HDD is an insulting 5400rpm one, although you can upgrade it (but it'll void your warranty and it's not easy). Booting from a USB 3.0 SSD is a safer option. The fixed 4Gb RAM is stingy for anything other than basic use and the processor is ancient and fairly puny. The onboard graphics also cannot drive a 4K screen at 60Hz, so you're limited to 1080p or even 1440p.Having said all that...for £234 you're getting a quiet computer that may be fine for basic use complete with Apple's software - iWork, iMovie, Garageband etc. Just don't expect it to fly.


Exactly this. But at £234 it begs the question why not just buy a second-hand iMac 21.5” (2010/11) or a MacBook Pro from the same era with way more expansion and repair options for a similar price.

The 5400rpm hard disk is far and away the greatest issue, before the fixed 4GB RAM and fixed mobile dual-core CPU.
Edited by: "plewis00" 7th Jul
Seems ok if someone wants a cheap way into MacOS to see if they like it and doesnt want or trust second hand machines, all other options are expensive. You can do hackintosh or emulate via VM but its not quite the same experience.
Edited by: "appolospb" 7th Jul
rich247607/07/2019 15:14

Would it be OK for media centre / streaming films?


Yes but why do that a Raspberry Pi would do the same for a lot less.
MrSprkle07/07/2019 20:15

Yes but why do that a Raspberry Pi would do the same for a lot less.


Good point... And a new one just out I think :/
thebruce07/07/2019 18:32

Not an SSD and not upgradable? You think they soldered a HDD to the …Not an SSD and not upgradable? You think they soldered a HDD to the mainboard or something???

For reliability of course.
Ha Ha.

Actually, it is still possible on this one, just not easy. It is the new one that is near 100% no upgradable.
Edited by: "LadyEleanor" 7th Jul
We run a handful of these at work for OSX Servers and Apple Software Caches and whilst they are useable they do 'chug'.
Upgrading to an SSD makes a massive difference, so I would recommend doing that if you can.
Regarding the RAM - under Sierra/High Sierra it wasn't a huge issue but we've noticed Mojave causing them (the few we've updated) to bog down due to RAM usage. Your mileage might vary but worth noting.

Certainly cheap for a new Mac.
Dev18507/07/2019 19:36

This is completely false, so you have either never used one or are …This is completely false, so you have either never used one or are intentionally lying. The hard drive is fully upgradeable



I was talking about the RAM, the HDD is upgradable but it’s a pain in the buttocks so most people wouldn’t bother.

Apple’s 2014 Mac mini is a perfect example of this, where swapping out or adding common components is now much more difficult—though it also adds the new possibility of PCIe-powered SSD upgrades.

The first thing iFixit discovered was that Apple switched out easy access to the RAM, which used to sit in slots right underneath the Mac mini’s bottom cover.

Making matters worse, once you dig a little deeper iFixit found that there were no pop-out RAM slots at all. Instead, the RAM is soldered directly onto the logic board. In other words, make sure you get enough memory for your potential needs when you’re ordering your computer, because you can’t upgrade it afterwards.
Edited by: "cmdr_elito" 7th Jul
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 14:33

Ancient. It’ll run slower than a 40stone man.


So it could end up heavyweight champion of the world?
cmdr_elito07/07/2019 22:56

I was talking about the RAM, the HDD is upgradable but it’s a pain in the b …I was talking about the RAM, the HDD is upgradable but it’s a pain in the buttocks so most people wouldn’t bother.Apple’s 2014 Mac mini is a perfect example of this, where swapping out or adding common components is now much more difficult—though it also adds the new possibility of PCIe-powered SSD upgrades.The first thing iFixit discovered was that Apple switched out easy access to the RAM, which used to sit in slots right underneath the Mac mini’s bottom cover.Making matters worse, once you dig a little deeper iFixit found that there were no pop-out RAM slots at all. Instead, the RAM is soldered directly onto the logic board. In other words, make sure you get enough memory for your potential needs when you’re ordering your computer, because you can’t upgrade it afterwards.


Apple build Aesthetically pleasing models to the eye. Bur functionality And that uogradeability Is one of the poorest around
Don't buy any thing that is mini and expect to be able to do allot in the future
Edited by: "leegp79" 8th Jul
sparklehedgehog07/07/2019 14:39

Plus it’ll get updates for years, be supported by the company rather than i …Plus it’ll get updates for years, be supported by the company rather than ignored and won’t slow down year after year on purpose by the manufacturer


amp.theguardian.com/tec…nes

I will just leave it here.
krotzkrotzowski08/07/2019 08:39

https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/oct/24/apple-samsung-fined-for-slowing-down-phonesI will just leave it here.


Phones based on battery life remaining has a relevance to what I was saying?
Or get a PI 4 which has quad 1.5ghz cores (overclockable to 1.7) 4gb DDR4 ram, dual hmdi output at 4k
runs a proper linux operating system, and costs 55 quid
will make a perfectly nice desktop for the average user
spends the 200 quid saved on two 24 inch HP ips lcd displays at 100 each
Darthpeter07/07/2019 15:58

I use mine solely as a Plex Server with two external hard drives and it …I use mine solely as a Plex Server with two external hard drives and it works very well


How many transcodes can you have running simultaneously?
Rampanthamster08/07/2019 11:11

How many transcodes can you have running simultaneously?


I only run it with one at a time as that is how we use our Plex - never tried more than one myself
The_Heroic_Hulk07/07/2019 14:19

If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 20 …If it’s the 2014 model don’t bother as its almost impossible to upgrade. 2012 model on eBay for around this price would be a better option



Couldnt agree more!

I have the late 2012 version with 16GB memory and an SSD. There are plenty of guides how to take it fully apart (although not for the faint of heart!). So it took me less than hour to fully dismantle and upgrade it. The 2012 model has an older i5 with a lesser capable intel on-board graphics but a higher horsepower i5 processor.

The logic of crippling this with a 1.4Ghz I5 escapes me!
DAZZ200008/07/2019 12:24

Couldnt agree more!I have the late 2012 version with 16GB memory and an …Couldnt agree more!I have the late 2012 version with 16GB memory and an SSD. There are plenty of guides how to take it fully apart (although not for the faint of heart!). So it took me less than hour to fully dismantle and upgrade it. The 2012 model has an older i5 with a lesser capable intel on-board graphics but a higher horsepower i5 processor.The logic of crippling this with a 1.4Ghz I5 escapes me!


I need to do the ssd upgrade but am scared!
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