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Mac OS X Snow Leopard v. 10.6 (Mac DVD) - 20.70 delivered @ Amazon
Mac OS X Snow Leopard v. 10.6 (Mac DVD) -  20.70 delivered @ Amazon

Mac OS X Snow Leopard v. 10.6 (Mac DVD) - 20.70 delivered @ Amazon

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Periodically keeps coming at this price, donno how long it will last. Still not convinced about the benifits of upgrading.

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It's definitely faster than Leopard. Only problem is that Plex doesn't work properly for me on Snow Leopard.

dont be in a rush to upgrade - there's still a few bugs crawling around in there.

If you are going to do it then clone your drive first so you can go back to 10.5 when you find that some of your favourite apps no longer work...

Yeah if you are with O2 wireless broadband then DON"T switch. I've upgraded and my airport disconnects maybe every 5 minutes, sometimes every 10 minutes if I'm lucky. It's just since I upgraded to Snow Leopard and I don't know how to do back to normal Leopard.

I've searched forums and quite a few people are having this problem and there seems no be no solution.

I have a white macbook - and foolishly upgraded without making a backup first. It's had an impact on performance alright - s l o w e d it down - just general sluggishness really so be advised. .. but a good price for those that want to jump in.

However. I too have O2 but had no network issues to speak on.

p.s. roll on the next upgrade - pull your finger out Apple!

TygerTyger;6809107

I have a white macbook - and foolishly upgraded without making a backup … I have a white macbook - and foolishly upgraded without making a backup first. It's had an impact on performance alright - s l o w e d it down - just general sluggishness really so be advised. .. but a good price for those that want to jump in.However. I too have O2 but had no network issues to speak on.p.s. roll on the next upgrade - pull your finger out Apple!



Hmm that's strange, I assumed it was O2 because when I am on other wireless networks the airport doesn't disconnect.

are updates not free?

leedale30;6809187

are updates not free?



Updates are, but they released this as a new version of the operating system.

Banned

xxnic0laxx;6809181

Hmm that's strange, I assumed it was O2 because when I am on other … Hmm that's strange, I assumed it was O2 because when I am on other wireless networks the airport doesn't disconnect.



Its about 1000 times more likely to be an issue with your access point/airport, not o2. What you are saying is like saying "oh, my car keeps cutting out because there are some road works on the M25 - so don't use motorways if you have a Ford."

IE completely unrelated.

PS has anybody hackintoshed snow leopard yet?

I'm not saying it's O2s fault I'm saying Airport isn't working with O2. There's some sort of compatibility problem between the two. I've an error in console about it, saying disconnected due to interactivity.

Just a note for people thinking of buying for installing on atom based notebook. Don't upgrade past 10.6.1 as the next update 10.6.2 has no support for the Atom processor.

Apple say as you are only licensed to use it on apple based products the support is not needed. More the real reason, next year apples is expected to release a netbook which is expected to be ARM based.

I'm sure as we speak the hackintosh community are working at modifying the kernel to get round this as pissing of Mr Jobs seems to be everybody's favorite pastime at the moment.

xxnic0laxx;6809276

I'm not saying it's O2s fault I'm saying Airport isn't working with O2. … I'm not saying it's O2s fault I'm saying Airport isn't working with O2. There's some sort of compatibility problem between the two. I've an error in console about it, saying disconnected due to interactivity.


You sure it didn't say "disconnected due to inactivity"? ie. you weren't using it so it switched it off.

the_fbi;6809317

You sure it didn't say "disconnected due to inactivity"? ie. you weren't … You sure it didn't say "disconnected due to inactivity"? ie. you weren't using it so it switched it off.



07/11/2009 14:21:56 kernel AirPort: Link Down on en1. Reason 4 (Disassociated due to inactivity).

Thats the error. It happens when I am online browsing web pages, I'll go to another one and it says I'm not connected. When I view console error this is the one that's there. It happens when data is continually streaming too such as when I am using spotify or watching something on iPlayer.

**edit** Just realised I wrote interactivity for some reason...sorry!

I came across a similar issue (I work part time for my uni doing tech support) I sent it to the Mac specialist guy and it was a virus/trojan screwing with the airport settings.

JustExtreme;6809366

I came across a similar issue (I work part time for my uni doing tech … I came across a similar issue (I work part time for my uni doing tech support) I sent it to the Mac specialist guy and it was a virus/trojan screwing with the airport settings.



any tips on decent, free anti-virus software for Mac ?

JustExtreme;6809366

I came across a similar issue (I work part time for my uni doing tech … I came across a similar issue (I work part time for my uni doing tech support) I sent it to the Mac specialist guy and it was a virus/trojan screwing with the airport settings.



Was it it the same error message and the airport was disconnecting?

windows 7

GAVINLEWISHUKD;6809287

Just a note for people thinking of buying for installing on atom based … Just a note for people thinking of buying for installing on atom based notebook. Don't upgrade past 10.6.1 as the next update 10.6.2 has no support for the Atom processor. Apple say as you are only licensed to use it on apple based products the support is not needed. More the real reason, next year apples is expected to release a netbook which is expected to be ARM based. I'm sure as we speak the hackintosh community are working at modifying the kernel to get round this as pissing of Mr Jobs seems to be everybody's favorite pastime at the moment.



I think this has been disproven: macrumors.com/200…ed/ . I have nothing against osx86 users; if you want to sacrifice good stable windows for a modified version of a proprietary OS that's intended to work with one set of hardware components, so be it. What Apple don't like is the lost sales of Mac OS and of course the number of people who try it and hate the incompatibilities brought about due to their PC hardware and thus swear to stick with Wintel.


BTW, there is absolutely NO relation between snow leopard and O2. A router is not a peripheral, accessory or driver-based hardware. It will probably be something to do with your airport card. Try it with other access points and perhaps reset your router.

xxnic0laxx;6809335

07/11/2009 14:21:56 kernel AirPort: Link Down on en1. Reason 4 … 07/11/2009 14:21:56 kernel AirPort: Link Down on en1. Reason 4 (Disassociated due to inactivity).Thats the error. It happens when I am online browsing web pages, I'll go to another one and it says I'm not connected. When I view console error this is the one that's there. It happens when data is continually streaming too such as when I am using spotify or watching something on iPlayer.**edit** Just realised I wrote interactivity for some reason...sorry!



Actually, this was a known problem once and its something to do with Flash cache and Airport. Airport kept cutting out when I was watching 4od, however it was fixed with an update to adobe flash player.

joeymcjoe;6809390

any tips on decent, free anti-virus software for Mac ?



Get the beta of clamxav 2.0. You shouldn't need to have it running all the time though, just for the odd file or your HD once a month :thumbsup:

clamxav.com/ind…eta

drspa44;6809441

Actually, this was a known problem once and its something to do with … Actually, this was a known problem once and its something to do with Flash cache and Airport. Airport kept cutting out when I was watching 4od, however it was fixed with an update to adobe flash player.



It's not to do with Flash. Spotify isn't a flash application, facebook isn't, google isn't and it disconnects on al of those.

Just been on the phone with apple technical for about an hour and he thinks it might be to do with the security on the router. It was at WEP which he said has caused problems for some people, so I'm changing it to to WPA and seeing if it works. Fingers crossed, 3 minutes do far and it's not disconnected!!

drspa44;6809413

I think this has been disproven: … I think this has been disproven: http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/04/rumors-of-disabled-intel-atom-support-in-mac-os-x-10-6-2-unfounded/ . I have nothing against osx86 users; if you want to sacrifice good stable windows for a modified version of a proprietary OS that's intended to work with one set of hardware components, so be it. What Apple don't like is the lost sales of Mac OS and of course the number of people who try it and hate the incompatibilities brought about due to their PC hardware and thus swear to stick with Wintel.BTW, there is absolutely NO relation between snow leopard and O2. A router is not a peripheral, accessory or driver-based hardware. It will probably be something to do with your airport card. Try it with other access points and perhaps reset your router.



Cheers for that will check on monday thought it was 535 build but may have been 531.:oops:

Repped.

joeymcjoe;6809390

any tips on decent, free anti-virus software for Mac ?



lol you don't get viruses on a mac!!!

xxnic0laxx;6809471

It's not to do with Flash. Spotify isn't a flash application, facebook … It's not to do with Flash. Spotify isn't a flash application, facebook isn't, google isn't and it disconnects on al of those.Just been on the phone with apple technical for about an hour and he thinks it might be to do with the security on the router. It was at WEP which he said has caused problems for some people, so I'm changing it to to WPA and seeing if it works. Fingers crossed, 3 minutes do far and it's not disconnected!!



You might want to try the flash update anyway. Spotify's streaming service would use a similar technology to Flash. If you had said google before, I would not have mentioned it as it would be clear that it has nothing to do with streaming and it's just a poor connection.

leedale30;6809557

lol you don't get viruses on a mac!!!



Yes you can, they just don't do anything.

leedale30;6809557

lol you don't get viruses on a mac!!!



Yeah you do! Just no where near as many as Windows and they don't run as wild!

I would reccomend Clamxav!

Voted this HOT also! Saves a fiver compared with Apple website!

drspa44;6809619

You might want to try the flash update anyway. Spotify's streaming … You might want to try the flash update anyway. Spotify's streaming service would use a similar technology to Flash. If you had said google before, I would not have mentioned it as it would be clear that it has nothing to do with streaming and it's just a poor connection.[



No that's not true and you can't just make that assumption. The problem as it turns out was down to the security settings on the router.

Nothing to do with a "poor connection".

Banned

xxnic0laxx;6809276

I'm not saying it's O2s fault I'm saying Airport isn't working with O2. … I'm not saying it's O2s fault I'm saying Airport isn't working with O2. There's some sort of compatibility problem between the two. I've an error in console about it, saying disconnected due to interactivity.



Why are you not listening to me?

The Airport has NO IDEA that o2 even exists. The ONLY thing it sees, is the access point.

o2 has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. If there is a problem, as I said before, it is an issue between the Access Point(/router) and/or the airport.

Once again, just incase you didn't get it, your mac/airport has absolutely no idea whatsoever, in any way shape or form, that o2 even exists.

If I remember correctly, o2 as standard send out those *really* crap Thompson routers. Thats were your problem is. Replace that POS Thompson with a half decent ADSL2 router and I'm pretty sure your problems will be solved.

Anarchist;6809646

Why are you not listening to me?The Airport has NO IDEA that o2 even … Why are you not listening to me?The Airport has NO IDEA that o2 even exists. The ONLY thing it sees, is the access point.o2 has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. If there is a problem, as I said before, it is an issue between the Access Point(/router) and/or the airport.Once again, just incase you didn't get it, your mac/airport has absolutely no idea whatsoever, in any way shape or form, that o2 even exists.If I remember correctly, o2 as standard send out those *really* crap Thompson routers. Thats were your problem is. Replace that POS Thompson with a half decent ADSL2 router and I'm pretty sure your problems will be solved.



Ok, I'm not an idiot, you don't have to speak to me as such. There WAS a compatibility problem but it was between the router's security settings. When I said O2, I meant the router. Is that clear enough?

It was to do with the security being set to WEP instead of WPA. Solved.

Banned

xxnic0laxx;6809668

Ok, I'm not an idiot, you don't have to speak to me as such. There WAS a … Ok, I'm not an idiot, you don't have to speak to me as such. There WAS a compatibility problem but it was between the router's security settings. When I said O2, I meant the router. Is that clear enough?It was to do with the security being set to WEP instead of WPA. Solved.



Which is, exactly what I thought. Didn't really think it was fair dragging o2 through mud undeservedly.

Anarchist;6809721

Which is, exactly what I thought. Didn't really think it was fair … Which is, exactly what I thought. Didn't really think it was fair dragging o2 through mud undeservedly.



Fair enough. I wasn't blaming O2, just though there was some compatibility problem between snow leopard and the o2 router, which was correct, it was the router's settings.

It didn't disconnect before I updated to Snow Leopard.

xxnic0laxx;6809643

No that's not true and you can't just make that assumption. The problem … No that's not true and you can't just make that assumption. The problem as it turns out was down to the security settings on the router.Nothing to do with a "poor connection".



By poor connection, I meant a poor connection between your airport card and router, which you say is correct due to the security. Why can't I make an assumption? You say iPlayer and Spotify are causing problems. Both stream media, both use Flash-based technology. I had the same problem with 4od and a lot of other people on the O2 forums, using the O2 router experienced the same issues. Flash update fixed it for all of them.

Anarchist is right. Your mac hasn't heard of O2. The only thing your mac knows about your O2 box is its SSID and channel.

drspa44;6809744

By poor connection, I meant a poor connection between your airport card … By poor connection, I meant a poor connection between your airport card and router, which you say is correct due to the security. Why can't I make an assumption? You say iPlayer and Spotify are causing problems. Both stream media, both use Flash-based technology. I had the same problem with 4od and a lot of other people on the O2 forums, using the O2 router experienced the same issues. Flash update fixed it for all of them.Anarchist is right. Your mac hasn't heard of O2. The only thing your mac knows about your O2 box is its SSID and channel.



Well by poor connection I thought you meant my computer was too far from the router, or there was wireless interference, which is what I got told every time I rung Apple or O2 to check first.

I know my mac doesn't know what O2 is, it's not a person. By o2, I meant the router.

Banned

xxnic0laxx;6809740

Fair enough. I wasn't blaming O2, just though there was some … Fair enough. I wasn't blaming O2, just though there was some compatibility problem between snow leopard and the o2 router, which was correct, it was the router's settings.It didn't disconnect before I updated to Snow Leopard.



Fair enough, glad its sorted anyway.

Those Thompson routers are complete gash. BE also use the same routers (as thats what o2 is, rebranded BE) and they'll have the same issue. As will anybody else on any other ISP will with those routers.

I spent the best part of a day messing about with one of those trying to get it working properly with an SBS lan for a job, but they lock them down, disable access to so many features and settings, and only provide CLI access to anything even remotely important that it made it near on impossible to configure it properly.

One Draytek replacement and 5 minutes configuration later, 100% working.

They need burning.

Just a heads up in case anyone is unaware, you can go straight from Tiger to Snow Leopard with no problems and save yourself a lot of cash.

I don't know about the router's access to features problems but I do find the interface very difficult to use. They need to sort that, it's really hard to find anything.

Be aware that I've upgraded quite a few machines to this and it made them a lot slower and caused many glitches. A fresh install is the best option

If you're running a Leopard laptop of previous generations, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to Snow Leopard. There are more compatibility issues, rather than buying a Macbook of the current gen with Leopard.

It is worth the £20, aesthetically there isn't much difference, but you do notice a difference in speed and stability. That's where most of the development went, mind you.

i dont know mac very well but this seems like a great buy

Anarchist;6809247

PS has anybody hackintoshed snow leopard yet?



Running on my Wind U100 with no issues, except that speedstep doesn't kick in after sleeping. Something to bear in mind if you are out and about. There are ways around that, if you want to save on battery life, but a natively functioning ss would be nice. One thing that does bug me is that Youtube runs quite nicely (except for HD obviously) on this netbook, whereas on my Macbook Pro it sends temperatures soaring and the fans screaming in agony.

Anarchist;6809721

Which is, exactly what I thought. Didn't really think it was fair … Which is, exactly what I thought. Didn't really think it was fair dragging o2 through mud undeservedly.



Oh, I don't know. It saves time, I suppose.

i upgraded its faster, but still a couple of teething issues, i would recommended installing after the next couple of updates. Buy it now at this price.
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