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Seems like a fair deal for a large capacity MacBook Pro. It's an i5 dual 3.1 CPU versus the current 1.4 quad. That's only likely to bother you if your looking for rendering power for video. Apple MacBook Pro Touch 2017 13 In i5 8GB 512GB - Silver
Clearance with a 12 month Argos guarantee
The new MacBook Pro is razor-thin, feather-light and now even faster and more powerful than before. It has the brightest, most colourful Mac notebook display. And it has the revolutionary Touch Bar - a Multi-Touch–enabled
strip of glass built into the keyboard for instant access to what you want to do, when you want to do it. The new
MacBook Pro is built on groundbreaking ideas. And it's ready for yours.

The touch bar replaces the function keys that have long occupied the top of your keyboard with something much more versatile and capable. It changes automatically based on what you're doing to show you relevant tools you already know how to use - system controls like volume and brightness, interactive ways to adjust or browse through content, intelligent typing features like emoji and predictive text, and more.

Macbook pro elevates the notebook to a whole new level of performance and portability. Wherever your ideas take you, you'll get there faster than ever with cutting-edge graphics, high-performance processors, super-smart storage and more.

Next-generation Thunderbolt high-speed I/O for connecting high-performance peripherals and displays through a single port.
FaceTime HD camera.
Multi-touch trackpad.
Long-lasting battery.
CPU and Memory:

Intel Core i5 .
Dual core processor.
Processor speed 3.1GHz.
8GB RAM.
Hard drive:

512GB storage.
Display:

13.3in led display.
Widescreen.
Resolution 2560 x 1600 pixels.
DVD optical drive

Air Disk facility - no optical drives - uses any optical drive from another wireless computer.
Graphics:

Shared graphics.
Intel iris plus graphics 650 graphics card.
Interfaces and connectivity:

Glass multi-touch trackpad.
2 x USB C ports.
Bluetooth.
Webcam and sound:

HD webcam.
Built-in mic.
Built-in audio.
Operating system and software:

Mac OS.
General Information:

Aluminium body.
10 hours battery life during playback.
Size H1.49, W30.41, D21.24cm.
Weight 1.37kg.
EAN: 190198395733.

Catalogue Number 687/5727
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reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.


Does it run macOS?

Nah, didn’t think so, case closed
2017 model, sorry that's cold.
reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.



Why would anyone spend £1100 on components they wont use?

If you need that level of processing power, of course it makes sense to investigate alternatives, as it's going to cost you a pretty penny with Apple.

But on the other hand, if you buy a laptop every ~5/6 years and are in the Apple eco-system, why would you put yourself through the pain of switching for the sake of silicon you will never benefit from?

To give you an example from our household, I run a software development company. Since we develop for their platform, Mac's are a business purchase. The additional cost is inconsequential over the ~3 years it will be my primary machine. Even though i'm not a lay user, I wouldn't switch if I could, purely for the learning/annoyance curve.

At the other end of the scale my wife is your average user. Browsing, docs, etc. She's now accustomed to OSX, the trackpad, gestures, etc, etc. Why would she invest her time switching to a windows machine now. Since she keeps them for several years, she might buy 10 more laptops in her life.

She's better off spending that time/effort progressing her career. Sometimes you have to realise people have very reasonable and rational reasons for their purchasing choices.
Edited by: "Mentos" 6th Dec 2019
Dual core for £1100 is an absolute joke.
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Says HDD Drive - this is wrong, all macbooks are ssd right?
2017 model, sorry that's cold.
The price Apple charge for a larger SSD is insane - especially as a 500GB SSD is around £60
Robertsno106/12/2019 09:55

Says HDD Drive - this is wrong, all macbooks are ssd right?


Yes, which is what made me think this IS a good deal.
Macdory06/12/2019 10:06

The price Apple charge for a larger SSD is insane - especially as a 500GB …The price Apple charge for a larger SSD is insane - especially as a 500GB SSD is around £60


They are really fast but yeah it’s the biggest deal breaker for me as well, price for normal sized capacities in 2019 like 1TB 2TB is like a second hand car
Voted hot, then saw dual core at over a grand!

Cold, so cold.
Edited by: "Minstadave" 6th Dec 2019
Good specs and price for 8GB RAM and 512GB SSD MBP. But the keyboard alone is a no deal for me and for many. And for £1k laptops, there are many options out there that look and perform better. I think they are clearing stocks for the newer one coming pretty soon after they have launched the 16 inch model.
Edited by: "ah_heng" 6th Dec 2019
cant wait for them to go back to a butterfly keyboard next year
lothburn06/12/2019 10:00

2017 model, sorry that's cold.



Why will it not work or something?
Dual core for £1100 is an absolute joke.
It wouldn’t sit well with me if anyone purchased this. Good sized ssd but the processor really lets this down. Not to mention the notoriously terrible butterfly keys.
yeah because they really need your validation
Nice, heat added
gsusx06/12/2019 11:18

cant wait for them to go back to a butterfly keyboard next year


They're still fitting the faulty keyboards into the latest MacBooks that they know are faulty,and renamed it the "Magic" keyboard.
reubenno06/12/2019 11:21

Dual core for £1100 is an absolute joke.


Can you expand on why? I did point it out in the description. If your rendering say lots of 4k then multiple cores will kick in and share the load. For a majority of users, I doubt they would ever get close to taxing the dual core. It's a trade off for price. Last year's CPU with BIG storage or quad core with limited storage.
alastair206/12/2019 13:47

Can you expand on why? I did point it out in the description. If your …Can you expand on why? I did point it out in the description. If your rendering say lots of 4k then multiple cores will kick in and share the load. For a majority of users, I doubt they would ever get close to taxing the dual core. It's a trade off for price. Last year's CPU with BIG storage or quad core with limited storage.


Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.

Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.
Edited by: "reubenno" 6th Dec 2019
There's nothing better when it comes to laptops than a MacBook Pro. Scorching hot, my eyes got burned up real bad just looking at this deal.
Edited by: "joeybutterface" 6th Dec 2019
reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.


Does it run macOS?

Nah, didn’t think so, case closed
Thats my favourite one..
waquzy06/12/2019 14:00

Does it run macOS?Nah, didn’t think so, case closed


Ah yes, the silver bullet. MacOS is so well optimised it can magic up another 500gb of storage, 8gb more ram and 4 more cores for rendering.
I forgot about Tim Cook's magic powers.
reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.



Why would anyone spend £1100 on components they wont use?

If you need that level of processing power, of course it makes sense to investigate alternatives, as it's going to cost you a pretty penny with Apple.

But on the other hand, if you buy a laptop every ~5/6 years and are in the Apple eco-system, why would you put yourself through the pain of switching for the sake of silicon you will never benefit from?

To give you an example from our household, I run a software development company. Since we develop for their platform, Mac's are a business purchase. The additional cost is inconsequential over the ~3 years it will be my primary machine. Even though i'm not a lay user, I wouldn't switch if I could, purely for the learning/annoyance curve.

At the other end of the scale my wife is your average user. Browsing, docs, etc. She's now accustomed to OSX, the trackpad, gestures, etc, etc. Why would she invest her time switching to a windows machine now. Since she keeps them for several years, she might buy 10 more laptops in her life.

She's better off spending that time/effort progressing her career. Sometimes you have to realise people have very reasonable and rational reasons for their purchasing choices.
Edited by: "Mentos" 6th Dec 2019
reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.


In a word....WINDOWS. I've built hundreds of pcs in my day and windows is always a nightmare. Bought a MacBook in 2009 and it's only just met an untimely demise otherwise it was still going strong. It's just works. In the meantime I've watched countless laptops and pcs come and go. I DO get your bang for the buck, however, apple stuff invariably just works. Garageband...... hallelujah. I've spent THOUSANDS over the years on PC based setups and it's always fighting with itself or other programmes. Garageband.......utter bliss!
alastair206/12/2019 14:08

In a word....WINDOWS. I've built hundreds of pcs in my day and windows is …In a word....WINDOWS. I've built hundreds of pcs in my day and windows is always a nightmare. Bought a MacBook in 2009 and it's only just met an untimely demise otherwise it was still going strong. It's just works. In the meantime I've watched countless laptops and pcs come and go. I DO get your bang for the buck, however, apple stuff invariably just works. Garageband...... hallelujah. I've spent THOUSANDS over the years on PC based setups and it's always fighting with itself or other programmes. Garageband.......utter bliss!


I get your point, MacOS in general is more reliable than Windows. However I used iMacs on my uni course with Avid Media Composer and we had frequent crashes and lock ups. I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop and laptop and I rarely have issues with them.
Mentos06/12/2019 14:05

Why would anyone spend £1100 on components they wont use?If you need that …Why would anyone spend £1100 on components they wont use?If you need that level of processing power, of course it makes sense to investigate alternatives, as it's going to cost you a pretty penny with Apple.But on the other hand, if you buy a laptop every ~5/6 years and are in the Apple eco-system, why would you put yourself through the pain of switching for the sake of silicon you will never benefit from?To give you an example from our household, I run a software development company. Since we develop for their platform, Mac's are a business purchase. The additional cost is inconsequential over the ~3 years it will be my primary machine. Even though i'm not a lay user, I wouldn't switch if I could, purely for the learning/annoyance curve.At the other end of the scale my wife is your average user. Browsing, docs, etc. She's now accustomed to OSX, the trackpad, gestures, etc, etc. Why would she invest her time switching to a windows machine now. Since she keeps them for several years, she might buy 10 more laptops in her life. She's better off spending that time/effort progressing her career. Sometimes you have to realise people have very reasonable and rational reasons for their purchasing choices.

I get your points, and they're definitely valid. It just seems crazy to me to spend so much money on an underpowered laptop. The premium people pay for Apple devices blows my mind. I know the reliability is good, and the MacBook trackpads blow everything else out of the water. However it really wouldn't cost Apple much to add a bit more storage or ram, given they're making an absolute killing in profits.
reubenno06/12/2019 14:14

I get your points, and they're definitely valid. It just seems crazy to me …I get your points, and they're definitely valid. It just seems crazy to me to spend so much money on an underpowered laptop. The premium people pay for Apple devices blows my mind. I know the reliability is good, and the MacBook trackpads blow everything else out of the water. However it really wouldn't cost Apple much to add a bit more storage or ram, given they're making an absolute killing in profits.



They're definitely milking the up sell Particularly now it's not trivial to switch some components yourself.

But i'm not sure the premium for the base machine is as high as some think. If you look at similar products from other manufacturers, they end up costing in the same ball park.

It's the up sell and the fact they dont make cheaper alternatives that makes them look much more expensive.
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Give me a dual boot Windows and Linux laptop over MacOS dumbed down OS any day of the week. The hoops you have to jump through to get macos actually doing anything apart from what you are cuddly fluffy teddybear allowed to do is mental. Install homebrew just to allow you some more unix/linux commands?

It's glossy and beautiful to look at and yes i have to agree Garageband is great and everything works but the expense...my god its absurd. Although peoples argument about it being a dual core cant really be justified as MacOS is so optimised that where Windoze would struggle with a dual core...well MacOS just breezes through it but then again it is based on BSD.

Very overpriced for what they are and i do like apple products as have had the phone, imac, mac mini and macbook pro....just windows seems to do alot more better (even though i can't stand windows 10 in the home and work environment) and if i want to delve deep into something then i boot into debian.

I gave HEAT for the price though.
reubenno06/12/2019 14:11

I get your point, MacOS in general is more reliable than Windows. However …I get your point, MacOS in general is more reliable than Windows. However I used iMacs on my uni course with Avid Media Composer and we had frequent crashes and lock ups. I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop and laptop and I rarely have issues with them.



I'm not really commenting on the Windows versus OSX aspect. I'm sure plenty of people will turn up to do that

My points apply equally if youre accustomed to Windows. Like my Dad for example. I wouldn't dream of telling him to switch now.

I do wonder if the roles were reversed tomorrow, how many of the wise Windows sages that pop onto Mac threads would switch Not many I suspect.
I would go for the 2019, for £300 more with 256GB. The quad core is great for things like compiling code and having a few running apps.
As a developer, mac is amazing because of the Linux underneath. i don't have to write another set of scripts for the server.
Mentos06/12/2019 14:20

They're definitely milking the up sell Particularly now it's not …They're definitely milking the up sell Particularly now it's not trivial to switch some components yourself. But i'm not sure the premium for the base machine is as high as some think. If you look at similar products from other manufacturers, they end up costing in the same ball park.It's the up sell and the fact they dont make cheaper alternatives that makes them look much more expensive.


If this is the base machine you're definitely paying a big premium, for the same kind of money you can get a Windows laptop with 6 cores and 16gb of ram.

Apple purposefully make it really difficult to swap components so they can charge more. Most Windows laptops are easily upgradeable, both ram and storage wise.
Mentos06/12/2019 14:23

I'm not really commenting on the Windows versus OSX aspect. I'm sure …I'm not really commenting on the Windows versus OSX aspect. I'm sure plenty of people will turn up to do that My points apply equally if youre accustomed to Windows. Like my Dad for example. I wouldn't dream of telling him to switch now. I do wonder if the roles were reversed tomorrow, how many of the wise Windows sages that pop onto Mac threads would switch Not many I suspect.


If Apple drop their prices to reasonable levels in comparison to Windows offerings I'd happily switch, but as a video editor and audio engineer, I can't justify spending so much on such an underpowered laptop compared to Windows alternatives.
alastair206/12/2019 13:47

Can you expand on why? I did point it out in the description. If your …Can you expand on why? I did point it out in the description. If your rendering say lots of 4k then multiple cores will kick in and share the load. For a majority of users, I doubt they would ever get close to taxing the dual core. It's a trade off for price. Last year's CPU with BIG storage or quad core with limited storage.


Because everyone bleats on about depreciation being tiny with Apple products but with a dual-core you’re making a rod for your own back. When it’s time to upgrade, quad-core will be the norm, that is, if you can even sell it assuming the keys still work. The CPU architecture is from 2016, we’re on Ice Lake now, so technically the gap is 7th to 10th gen.

The keyboard will go bad and Apple will replace it once out of warranty. If you’re dead set on a MacBook Pro of this era, there are plenty of good used options. The SSD size is only a big deal because they soldered it to the mainboard, in another one of their anti-consumer moves, for anyone else going from 256 to 512GB is £40-50 and a few screws.
reubenno06/12/2019 14:27

Most Windows laptops are easily upgradeable, both ram and storage wise.



Not in this form factor. Many sub notebooks/thin and light notebooks seal units and solder in components. It's unfortunately a trade off if you want thin/light machines. Moreover, even when they used to be user changeable, often it was not economically viable for several years, by which point you may as well buy a new machine.

For example third party SSD's for the MBP were prohibitively expensive and thin on the ground for several years after this iteration was released. I had the same issue with some of my Sony sub notebooks.

reubenno06/12/2019 14:27

If this is the base machine you're definitely paying a big premium, for …If this is the base machine you're definitely paying a big premium, for the same kind of money you can get a Windows laptop with 6 cores and 16gb of ram.



We're going back to my original point again. If you need that much silicon, then you either look elsewhere or like me its a business purchase so I dont care about £1k either way.

If on the other hand you don't. Then you're comparing a base windows machine, with equivalent specs, materials, trackpad to the base MB. And the difference isn't as big as you would expect. It's the up sell where things really start to diverge. But that doesnt matter to someone like my wife, she aint ever going to make use of 16GB RAM or quad core CPU. She will on the other hand appreciate the form factor, trackpad, gestures, battery life, etc.
Edited by: "Mentos" 6th Dec 2019
reubenno06/12/2019 13:53

Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, …Because for £1100 you can get a six core laptop with much better cooling, a dedicated graphics card and more ram and storage.Why anybody would spend anything close to £1100 for a laptop that isn't going to be used for heavy tasks is beyond me. And anyone who buys a dual core laptop for heavy tasks is outright stupid.


Because that £1100 laptop will be a piece of cr**, run windows, be massive, have worse battery life and have a huge brick as a charger.
I don't understand why people cant see there are different machines for different people and different people have different priorities.
There are pretty people that travel a lot and would just use a laptop for editing photos, browsing and business and this would suit them much better than a bulky plastic laptop that won't last.
I know! I spent 1.5k on a dell coming from a MacBook and I sent it straight back two days later. You cant even compare the two. This is a premium product and it really does show. That experienced convinced me to get a 16 inch MacBook
reubenno06/12/2019 14:29

If Apple drop their prices to reasonable levels in comparison to Windows …If Apple drop their prices to reasonable levels in comparison to Windows offerings I'd happily switch, but as a video editor and audio engineer, I can't justify spending so much on such an underpowered laptop compared to Windows alternatives.


As a video editor and sometimes audio engineer myself the difference you would see going mac would astound you. You could always make a hackintosh... The 16 inch pro beats the razer 15 on video editing and it isn't that much more...
paid £1100 for a MacBook Pro 13 inch 128gb without touch bar in end of 2017. This one would have been around £1600

so pretty decent deal. great laptop.
I used to hate people that say “Macs just work”, but they do! Ive had the same MacBook Air since 2014 and it still gets the latest OS updates and runs just as well as it did when I got it out of the box. OSX has a built in backup solution and if you do have an issue it’s ridiculously easy to do a fresh install of the OS with nothing but an internet connection. Windows is playing catch-up massively when it comes to user friendliness. People don’t buy macs for their hardware.
Edited by: "APMerry" 6th Dec 2019
Hi All,

I am a Mac user for the last 16 years - just want to throw a bit of info out there as I know the Apple desire can be extremely tempting!

Just be aware that if anything, no matter what component fails on the motherboard & how small it is, Apple will replace the whole Motherboard which will cost a fortune on these new models - There are almost no replaceable parts on the 2016 MBP's & later.

Also, unless you have backed up your data, if something happens, you/a technician will NOT be able to retrieve your data as apple removed the component on the logic board that will have allowed one to do so. Same will go for if the soldered on SSD or RAM goes bad.

The butterfly keyboard issues (if they happen to you) will be covered by Apple for 5 years so that is good but after that, if anything happens, you will have to foot the hefty bill to get it sorted & you will still have a new butterfly keyboard which will also likely go bad sometime down the road.

I am not a super power user so still use the ultra reliable 2015 Retina Macbook Pro's with all those lovely ports. If you do not really need all the high performance of the newer models (2016 onwards) then you might want to seriously consider the 2014/2015 models imho - just putting it out there!

Thanks!
Thanks so much for this. I have a Macbook that I've been looking to upgrade and can't afford 2019 prices. I've just looked and this one is still £1800+ on other websites so it's a great deal. I've just bought it and am so happy you shared!

I don't think it's very fair of people to say this isn't a good deal just because they don't like Apple and would rather get a different make of laptop. It should be voted on because it's a good deal for the product involved - not because you like it (or not).
rs_tigerblade06/12/2019 14:46

As a video editor and sometimes audio engineer myself the difference you …As a video editor and sometimes audio engineer myself the difference you would see going mac would astound you. You could always make a hackintosh... The 16 inch pro beats the razer 15 on video editing and it isn't that much more...


I've been considering building a hackintosh/dual boot Windows desktop as my next PC.

I would also like a MacBook if I had the money, but I don't want to carry around dongles just to plug in a USB stick.

Also the Windows laptop for £1100 isn't going to be crap. Yes it'll be heavier, because it'll have adequate cooling for the better processor, and yes it'll probably have a larger power brick (though recent improvements in power efficiency have reduced sizes substantially). But you'll get a much more powerful machine.

I understand it's horses for courses, but I do think that the climate has shifted substantially from when Apple were the only good choice for laptops for creatives, to now where there are plenty of other good options.

Also I don't know where this notion that Windows laptops are all plastic comes from. There are lots of aluminium slim laptops that keep up with the MacBook for less.
Edited by: "reubenno" 6th Dec 2019
reubenno06/12/2019 14:53

I've been considering building a hackintosh/dual boot Windows desktop as …I've been considering building a hackintosh/dual boot Windows desktop as my next PC.I would also like a MacBook if I had the money, but I don't want to carry around dongles just to plug in a USB stick. Also the Windows laptop for £1100 isn't going to be crap. Yes it'll be heavier, because it'll have adequate cooling for the better processor, and yes it'll probably have a larger power brick (though recent improvements in power efficiency have reduced sizes substantially). But you'll get a much more powerful machine.I understand it's horses for courses, but I do think that the climate has shifted substantially from when Apple were the only good choice for laptops for creatives, to now where there are plenty of other good options.Also I don't know where this notion that Windows laptops are all plastic comes from. There are lots of aluminium slim laptops that keep up with the MacBook for less.


I agree, the prices have put me off, my MacBook is 2014 i7 and still going strong, I’m not keen on the usb situation but with more raw 4K I’m going for the 16 inch.
trust me mate, the dell I got was a plasticy piece of crap! Windows didn’t help but the build quality was horrible and that was more than 1100.
sure, you can get a nice auminium slim laptop but not for 1100 with a decent gpu and it’ll still have windows..
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