Makita 18V cordless combi drill & 2 x 2Ah NiCad batteries, 3yr g'tee £95.99 @ ITS (for free shipping spend £100, else £4.95)
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Makita 18V cordless combi drill & 2 x 2Ah NiCad batteries, 3yr g'tee £95.99 @ ITS (for free shipping spend £100, else £4.95)

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Found 20th Jul 2013
Model 8391DWAE

Note that this is not the 8391DWPE that you will find at around the same price - this has the superior 2Ah batteries as opposed to the 1.3Ah ones.

I know it's NiCad tech as opposed to Li-Ion but Makita NiCads are well reviewed and proven, whereas their Li-Ion tech has had problems and is more expensive. Besides, the fact that you get 2 batteries and a quick charger minimises the need for Li-Ion unless you're a pro.

This is a clearance item and stock is probably very limited.

Shipping is free for orders over 100 quid, and it's very easy to find something else you want on the site to bump up the price a few quid to get this. Else it's another 4.95 for shipping.

I received my set earlier this week.

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23 Comments

Original Poster

Product blurb:

Lightweight & compact, the 8391DWAE 18V cordless 2 speed hammer … Lightweight & compact, the 8391DWAE 18V cordless 2 speed hammer drill/driver is ideal for general brick and fixing applications.The 8391DWAE 18v cordless 2 speed hammer drill/driver features a high 42Nm max torque with 16 position adjustable torque control for uniform results and optimized precision, 2 speed/variable speed gearbox including reverse and hammer action.Equipped with a 13mm keyless chuck, drilling up to 13mm into masonry, 13mm into steel and 36mm into wood making it ideal for use in a variety of materials and applications.The compact and lightweight 2.3kg design of the 8391DWAE makes it ideal for use in the workshop or on site, whilst the ergonomic soft grip handle provides maximum comfort reducing user fatigue and providing greater tool control.The Makita 8391DWAE is supplied with 2 x 2.0Ah Ni-CD batteries, 45 minute charger and carry case

Original Poster

There is another deal HERE if you want accessories with the drill, and are prepared to live with 1.3Ah batteries instead of these 2.0Ah ones.
This other deal is also with Amazon which some may prefer, although in my dealings with ITS they were excellent.

People slate these drills cos there not lithium battery's.. But there is nothing wrong with NiCad batteries.. Especially if you have 2 of them.. Good deal. Heat

Thanks mate I posted the Amazon offer this is much better cancelled Amazon and ordered this instead a fruitful early wake up by 3 year old daughter !

Original Poster

I'm curious as to why people are voting cold. Perhaps they could enlighten us?

scotthebot

People slate these drills cos there not lithium battery's.. But there is … People slate these drills cos there not lithium battery's.. But there is nothing wrong with NiCad batteries.. Especially if you have 2 of them.. Good deal. Heat

Ni-cads equate to old tech poor batteries, they store a memory and unless discharged fully/recharged correctly will not last. They are now old and have been superseded by 2 more better technologies. If there was nothing wrong with nicads then we would not have moved on with better batteries?

scotthebot

People slate these drills cos there not lithium battery's.. But there is … People slate these drills cos there not lithium battery's.. But there is nothing wrong with NiCad batteries.. Especially if you have 2 of them.. Good deal. Heat


lithium ion batteries far superior (no memory effect) screwfix deal on makita18v 1.3amp 30 min chge £99 perfectly good most people. why buy old technology! !!!

I thought that there were problems with Makita lit ion batteries

sew1091

I thought that there were problems with Makita lit ion batteries


There have been yes, a google will reveal people having issues with them.

This isn't a bad deal considering they're 2a rated batteries and Nicads can last ok if you do a little to look after them. My 5 year old Makita with 2 x nicads still charges and stays charged but I do occasionally charge them up and then run them down a few times to cycle them.

Nicads work better in cold temps and can perform better than li-ion under certain conditions. The real drawback is the memory effect and topping up charges isn't good for them unlike Li-Ion which don't suffer from top ups.
However, my next drill will no doubt have Li-Ion and probably 3amp or higher.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 20th Jul 2013

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steviecross

Ni-cads equate to old tech poor batteries, they store a memory and … Ni-cads equate to old tech poor batteries, they store a memory and unless discharged fully/recharged correctly will not last. They are now old and have been superseded by 2 more better technologies. If there was nothing wrong with nicads then we would not have moved on with better batteries?



Tosh!

eggman

Tosh!



I have finally run across the person that stole my username

Original Poster

Li-Ions are better in many respects, yes. But you pay the price for them. can you find an equivalent package using Lithium at the same price?

I purposefully avoided Lithium because their shelf-life is not particularly good, and I will only be using the drill occasionally. Considering the cost of replacement Li-Ions, these NiCad suit me fine.

Granted Lithium are better in terms of memory effect, power drop-off and weight.

This site is odd. The other deal with lower capacity NiCad batteries that is more expensive is hotter than this. Ho-hum.

Anyway, thanks for the comments.

i called them and despite what it says online they have none left in stock.

Original Poster

OK, well time to expire! Thanks.

eggman

Tosh!

I use cordless drill doing my job and have done so for years, If you are happy with **** equipment you use nicads, for me when I need a drill to work and have the power I need to drill through various things I will use a good battery.

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steviecross

Ni-cads equate to old tech poor batteries, they store a memory and … Ni-cads equate to old tech poor batteries, they store a memory and unless discharged fully/recharged correctly will not last. They are now old and have been superseded by 2 more better technologies. If there was nothing wrong with nicads then we would not have moved on with better batteries?



What utter nonsense ir spieled about ni cad - such as this.

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The mighty Li ion falls...

Although a Lithium battery should deliver 100 percent capacity during the first year of service, it is common to see lower than specified capacities, and shelf life may have contributed to this loss. In addition, manufacturers tend to overrate their batteries; knowing that very few customers would complain.

Ni cad
Memory effect, also known as battery effect, lazy battery effect or battery memory, is an effect observed in nickel cadmium and nickel–metal hydride[1] rechargeable batteries that causes them to hold less charge. It describes one very specific situation in which certain NiCd and NiMH batteries gradually lose their maximum energy capacity if they are repeatedly recharged after being only partially discharged. The battery appears to "remember" the smaller capacity.[2] The source of the effect is changes in the characteristics of the underused active materials of the cell.[citation needed] The term is commonly misapplied to almost any case in which a battery appears to hold less charge than was expected. These cases are more likely due to battery age and use, leading to irreversible changes in the cells due to internal short-circuits, loss of electrolyte, or reversal of cells.

eggman

What utter nonsense ir spieled about ni cad - such as this.

Fair enough, I will throw all my lithium ion battery,s away and move forward with ni-cads. Sometimes in life you think you know about things, in this instance i was wrong.

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steviecross

I use cordless drill doing my job and have done so for years, If you are … I use cordless drill doing my job and have done so for years, If you are happy with **** equipment you use nicads, for me when I need a drill to work and have the power I need to drill through various things I will use a good battery.



Tosh. I use top notch beasts. Would also cite an AEG 14.4 pro I have that runs from 2 ah ni cads. It thumps out 63Nm torque and recharges in 60mins. If u know about drills you will know that the STX is a serious quality site drill that was the other side of £200+. I appreciate 3 and 4 ah li ions (air cooled) but am about to also test the new AEG brushless high torque beast. Check em out.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dewalt-Lithium-Ion-2-Speed-Complete-Batteries/dp/B008LAFW04
De Walt.
- Voltage : 18 V
- Battery Capacity : 4.0 Ah

- Max Torque : 60 Nm
- Max. Drilling Capacity [Wood] : 38 mm
- Max. Drilling Capacity [Metal] : 13 mm
- Max. Drilling Capacity [Masonry] : 13 mm

Delivers less Nm torque than my 14.4v AEG.

eggman

Tosh. I use top notch beasts. Would also cite an AEG 14.4 pro I have that … Tosh. I use top notch beasts. Would also cite an AEG 14.4 pro I have that runs from 2 ah ni cads. It thumps out 63Nm torque and recharges in 60mins. If u know about drills you will know that the STX is a serious quality site drill that was the other side of £200+. I appreciate 3 and 4 ah li ions (air cooled) but am about to also test the new AEG brushless high torque beast. Check em out.

We Use Dewalt and they seem to serve us well, Of course it does not matter what cordless drill you use, these things are only as good as the battery that powers them. Of all the guys I have seen working on site and in the workshop, they all stick with Dewalt. We have cordless grinders/jigsaws and all the batterys are usable on all items. Most of our stuff is 18 volt and without checking as they are at work, batteries are 2.4. Our drill cost far more than £200 but again if you opt for the versions with ni-cads the drills are far cheaper

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Now, here is a drill with 6 Year Product / 3 Year Battery Trade Warranty

http://www.aegpowertools.com.au/products/hammers/BSB18B0/

Powerful AEG Brushless motor delivers up to 80Nm of torque for heavy duty applications
AEG Brushless motor works longer per charge due to no energy loss through friction resistance, heat or motor sparking
AEG brushless motor requires no maintenance giving the tool a longer lifetime

Industrial metal gearbox and gears for extended life

3 mode selector enables easy transition between drill / drive / hammer modes
Dual LED light for workpiece illumination
Compatible with 18V PRO-Lithium or 18V Lithium battery packs

Kicks sand in the face of De Walt. Read the spec , perhaps you might learn sumefin? Coming your way soon.






Edited by: "eggman" 7th Aug 2013

eggman

Now, here is a drill with 6 Year Product / 3 Year Battery Trade … Now, here is a drill with 6 Year Product / 3 Year Battery Trade Warrantyhttp://www.aegpowertools.com.au/products/hammers/BSB18B0/Powerful AEG Brushless motor delivers up to 80Nm of torque for heavy duty applicationsAEG Brushless motor works longer per charge due to no energy loss through friction resistance, heat or motor sparkingAEG brushless motor requires no maintenance giving the tool a longer lifetimeIndustrial metal gearbox and gears for extended life3 mode selector enables easy transition between drill / drive / hammer modesDual LED light for workpiece illuminationCompatible with 18V PRO-Lithium or 18V Lithium battery packsKicks sand in the face of De Walt. Read the spec , perhaps you might learn sumefin? Coming your way soon.

Looks the Biz, only thing putting me off is it uses lithium ion batteries. Am a little bit dubious after reading comments on here about how good ni-cads are, lol
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