Manufacturer refurbished Binatone Terrain 750 Twin 2-Way Radio Walkie Talkies £21.99 @ 3Monkeys / Ebay
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Manufacturer refurbished Binatone Terrain 750 Twin 2-Way Radio Walkie Talkies £21.99 @ 3Monkeys / Ebay

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Found 21st Jan 2015
Manufacturer refurbished Binatone Terrain 750 Twin 2-Way Radio Walkie Talkies Black 968 Channel Brown Box £21.99

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up to 8Km range apparently

brand new for £25 on amazon possibly a better option

Link for new:

Amazon link

I've used these at work, we've had several sets and all have proven very unreliable... I imagine they have lots of refurbs to sell!

I'm not voting cold, just stating my experience with them.

I love the cheesy pictures on the amazon link

wicket2961

I love the cheesy pictures on the amazon link



I lol'd too.

Whatch'ya thinking about? Over.
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Just... guy stuff. Over.
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fairytooth

up to 8Km range apparently



From experience, you may get 8KM from one mountain top to another with a line of sight, maybe

Typical urban environment you'll be lucky to get half a kilometre. Open ish fields (ie a small forest in the way maybe 1km.)

Sorry, Claire, but I have been sleeping with your sister. Over.
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I seem to be taking that news surprisingly well. Over.
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Edited by: "Splashmo" 22nd Jan 2015

fairytooth

up to 8Km range apparently



In a 100% flat landscape devoid of all atmospheric signals and interference and even then I doubt it, mine barely reach the garden from indoors.

toaster

In a 100% flat landscape devoid of all atmospheric signals and … In a 100% flat landscape devoid of all atmospheric signals and interference and even then I doubt it, mine barely reach the garden from indoors.



Atmospheric signals?
Edited by: "ewanyengi" 22nd Jan 2015

Ours worked in Florida theme parks, no problem. Although now we just three on our mobiles.

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Well thats not creepy at all is it

Splashmo

Sorry, Claire, but I have been sleeping with your sister. Over.I seem to … Sorry, Claire, but I have been sleeping with your sister. Over.I seem to be taking that news surprisingly well. Over.



lol....

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tilyymolly

Ours worked in Florida theme parks, no problem. Although now we just … Ours worked in Florida theme parks, no problem. Although now we just three on our mobiles.



IApart from issues of 120v and 240v UK Voltage the signal these use would be totally ILLEGAL in the USA

TheHoss

Well thats not creepy at all is it



As well as the fact they could probably just talk to each other. The walkie talkies seem a bit superfluous.

Used them for skiing, ended up getting a lot of cross talk and 'joined in' on others' conversations lol. Actually sent them back and now use these banggood.com/Who…1SD which are about 20 x better lol, I think aimed at the professional market.

Banned

I use these at work they are not very clear would avoid.

Banned

Splashmo

Sorry, Claire, but I have been sleeping with your sister. Over.I seem to … Sorry, Claire, but I have been sleeping with your sister. Over.I seem to be taking that news surprisingly well. Over.



"Breaker, breaker, 10-4 good buddy are you hearing my call on your back doors comeback rubber d**k?"

"Yeah, I'm right next to you, d**k-head..."

Hey, sexy! How you doin'?!? Over.
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Not too bad, good looking. Wanna bang? Over.
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Edited by: "Splashmo" 22nd Jan 2015

slimmyfan1

Used them for skiing, ended up getting a lot of cross talk and 'joined … Used them for skiing, ended up getting a lot of cross talk and 'joined in' on others' conversations lol. Actually sent them back and now use these http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-BAOFENG-UV-5R-Dual-Band-Handheld-Transceiver-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-p-61066.html?p=FB0917407849201401SD which are about 20 x better lol, I think aimed at the professional market.



They are good, I have one as a radio amateur, but unfortunately they are also illegal to use in the UK (and probably in other countries) without a license....

You either need to get a UK Simple license this will cost you £75 for 5 year, (obviously only valid for radio use in the UK) for the group, and set them to the allocated frequencies ONLY (see https://secure.ofcom.org.uk/busrad/), or each user needs to get a Ham radio foundation license and use HAM frequencies (bit less cost but you need to do a course and sit an exam).

Either way these can transmit on frequencies that are illegal under both the UK Simple and Ham Radio frequencies so you need to be careful what frequency they are set to. Upsetting taxis or the local shopwatch may be fun, but upsetting the police or the armed forces may be more serious and they have the hardware to track you down...(_;)

And no you cannot just set them to the same frequencies as the set in the post the PMR 446 frequencies are limited to 0.5W and the regs don't let you use any hardware, only something specifically made for that frequency band. These at a minimum put out 1W and can put out 5W,

Here's the UK distributors answer - sinotel.co.uk/ind…=22

Realistically you are unlikely to be caught unless you really are annoying another user, I don't recall the fines if you are, but its also possible that you'll block a more vital service if you transmit on the wrong frequncies ie the fire brigade, coastguard or ambulance service.

Yeah, I wouldn't buy these unless it was for kids to mess around with.
Personally,use motorola's a set of both European legal & North America's ..batteries have held out very well over the years, & the Euro units take AAA's ..always been worthwhile for out & about situations & very handy when with the nipper at car boot sales.
Always, always add a clip tag so it can sit on a pocket D ring if doing more active sports, also saves location faffing keying the lost unit as dusk draws in on a mountainside / on the ice when cougars/ lynx / polar bears are out & prowling..for instance

If wanting to buy for ski trips in europe, understand the limitation of cheap & cheerful where your mates chunter on incessently, incoherently ,...without having a clue how to actually use these properly #liability. ..best to map locations & number them numerically on a piste map for instance for key area's / gridding avoiding background chatter interference, & to advise them to keep high & clear signal when even bothering to stop & attempt to make contact, valley floor between peaks, gluts of treeline = bum note.

Left the walkie talkie near to my daughter and hid with the other one. Said "Help, help, Daddy's stuck in here"

She ran crying to Mummy with the walkie talkie telling her I was stuck. She's only 12 bless her.

gavin1

They are good, I have one as a radio amateur, but unfortunately they are … They are good, I have one as a radio amateur, but unfortunately they are also illegal to use in the UK (and probably in other countries) without a license....You either need to get a UK Simple license this will cost you £75 for 5 year, (obviously only valid for radio use in the UK) for the group, and set them to the allocated frequencies ONLY (see https://secure.ofcom.org.uk/busrad/), or each user needs to get a Ham radio foundation license and use HAM frequencies (bit less cost but you need to do a course and sit an exam). Either way these can transmit on frequencies that are illegal under both the UK Simple and Ham Radio frequencies so you need to be careful what frequency they are set to. Upsetting taxis or the local shopwatch may be fun, but upsetting the police or the armed forces may be more serious and they have the hardware to track you down...(_;)And no you cannot just set them to the same frequencies as the set in the post the PMR 446 frequencies are limited to 0.5W and the regs don't let you use any hardware, only something specifically made for that frequency band. These at a minimum put out 1W and can put out 5W, Here's the UK distributors answer - https://www.sinotel.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=22Realistically you are unlikely to be caught unless you really are annoying another user, I don't recall the fines if you are, but its also possible that you'll block a more vital service if you transmit on the wrong frequncies ie the fire brigade, coastguard or ambulance service.



Great post, thanks. Very informative. Super radio, I agree, think I might go for the Ham Exam...

Splashmo

As well as the fact they could probably just talk to each other. The … As well as the fact they could probably just talk to each other. The walkie talkies seem a bit superfluous.


MIne were not these exact ones and they used AAA batteries.

Had these... 8Km is just crazy... more like 800m in an open field. in a building with walls and stuff you'd be lucky to get 80m.

gavin1

[quote=slimmyfan1] Realistically you are unlikely to be caught unless you … [quote=slimmyfan1] Realistically you are unlikely to be caught unless you really are annoying another user, I don't recall the fines if you are, but its also possible that you'll block a more vital service if you transmit on the wrong frequncies ie the fire brigade, coastguard or ambulance service.



Agree, you are VERY unlikely to get caught using illegal two way radios. Just ask the local kids who run drugs on our estate.
They sure as hell don't use two way radios that are legal in this country, because they simply don't have the range, nor the privacy

poisondwarf

Agree, you are VERY unlikely to get caught using illegal two way radios. … Agree, you are VERY unlikely to get caught using illegal two way radios. Just ask the local kids who run drugs on our estate. They sure as hell don't use two way radios that are legal in this country, because they simply don't have the range, nor the privacy



Entirely depends what channel you use, Use a MOD one and you'll probably be caught, use a PMR one and you may never be found out.

Baofeng 888's, can get a pair for £20 on the bay, no license needed, and are the best of this type by far.

Spaz

Baofeng 888's, can get a pair for £20 on the bay, no license needed, and … Baofeng 888's, can get a pair for £20 on the bay, no license needed, and are the best of this type by far.



You certainly do, they put out 5W whereas PMR446 spec radio's are limited to .5W so even if you program them to PMR frequencies they'd still be illegal.

As mentioned before getting caught is another matter, however reports are that by default they will be on frequencies used by t UK emergency services. essexham.co.uk/new…htm You won't hear them, they use digital radio and this is analogue but you could block or disrupt them.

Don't get me wrong Baofeng (Also called PoFang now) have done a brilliant job in making these type of radios cheap and really good for the money, but they still need a licence in the UK.

slimmyfan1

Used them for skiing, ended up getting a lot of cross talk and 'joined … Used them for skiing, ended up getting a lot of cross talk and 'joined in' on others' conversations lol. Actually sent them back and now use these http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-BAOFENG-UV-5R-Dual-Band-Handheld-Transceiver-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-p-61066.html?p=FB0917407849201401SD which are about 20 x better lol, I think aimed at the professional market.



Highly recommend baofeng ones! Great price for quality versus the rest.

Only need a license to operate on those specific bands. Two mates on their channel talking is no problem. Owned one for years and used with friends without any issues.

helllraiser

Only need a license to operate on those specific bands. Two mates on … Only need a license to operate on those specific bands. Two mates on their channel talking is no problem. Owned one for years and used with friends without any issues.



Also you don't get fined just banned from those towers

helllraiser

Only need a license to operate on those specific bands. Two mates on … Only need a license to operate on those specific bands. Two mates on their channel talking is no problem. Owned one for years and used with friends without any issues.



Sorry no. To use PMR446 frequencies the hardware has to be certified, mainly to stop people using systems that are over powered. If you put these on the PMR frequencies you's be transmitting at ten time the power of any other user in the area, so possibly swamping out their use. Anything not type approved for PMR446 use is banned from that frequency range.

Yes you can use them, and yes its unlikely you will be caught, but if you are and they went the whole hog its a £5k fine and/or two years.
Edited by: "gavin1" 23rd Jan 2015

gavin1

They are good, I have one as a radio amateur, but unfortunately they are … They are good, I have one as a radio amateur, but unfortunately they are also illegal to use in the UK (and probably in other countries) without a license....You either need to get a UK Simple license this will cost you £75 for 5 year, (obviously only valid for radio use in the UK) for the group, and set them to the allocated frequencies ONLY (see https://secure.ofcom.org.uk/busrad/), or each user needs to get a Ham radio foundation license and use HAM frequencies (bit less cost but you need to do a course and sit an exam). Either way these can transmit on frequencies that are illegal under both the UK Simple and Ham Radio frequencies so you need to be careful what frequency they are set to. Upsetting taxis or the local shopwatch may be fun, but upsetting the police or the armed forces may be more serious and they have the hardware to track you down...(_;)And no you cannot just set them to the same frequencies as the set in the post the PMR 446 frequencies are limited to 0.5W and the regs don't let you use any hardware, only something specifically made for that frequency band. These at a minimum put out 1W and can put out 5W, Here's the UK distributors answer - https://www.sinotel.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=22Realistically you are unlikely to be caught unless you really are annoying another user, I don't recall the fines if you are, but its also possible that you'll block a more vital service if you transmit on the wrong frequncies ie the fire brigade, coastguard or ambulance service.



I wouldn't worry about getting in the way of the Emergency Services using one of these - they use a dedicated encrypted mobile network that is impossible to pick up without using one of their terminals. Same for the MoD.

PC_Dave

I wouldn't worry about getting in the way of the Emergency Services using … I wouldn't worry about getting in the way of the Emergency Services using one of these - they use a dedicated encrypted mobile network that is impossible to pick up without using one of their terminals. Same for the MoD.



As I mentioned before you won't be able to hear them but if you are on the same frequency you may swamp their transmissions so they cannot hear anything.

gavin1

As I mentioned before you won't be able to hear them but if you are on … As I mentioned before you won't be able to hear them but if you are on the same frequency you may swamp their transmissions so they cannot hear anything.



No, as it's a digital mobile network, not a radio frequency

PC_Dave

No, as it's a digital mobile network, not a radio frequency



You mean Tetra? That still uses radio frequencies Tetras on 380-384Mhz, 390-394Mhz or 454, 460 or 464 Mhz. Typically Tetra is a lot lower power, usually 1 or 2W, the 888's can put out up to 5W. They don;t need more as they have base stations in most towns, and lower transmit power means better battery life.

You can't hear them but If the 888 is closer to the base station than the Tetra device then the 888 will effectively overwrite the Terta unit signal blocking the use.

Think of it another way. If you want to whisper something in your friends ear, and I shout a few CM away then the chances are your friend will not hear you. As I move further away at some point your whisper is going to sound louder than my shouting and they can hear you. If does not make any difference if you talk in English, and I shout in French, your words will still be lost, Thats more or less how what happens to the radio signals. The fact is digital makes no difference to the fact the signal will be lost if there is something broadcasting a stronger signal closer by.










Edited by: "gavin1" 23rd Jan 2015

gavin1

You mean Tetra? That still uses radio frequencies Tetras on 380-384Mhz, … You mean Tetra? That still uses radio frequencies Tetras on 380-384Mhz, 390-394Mhz or 454, 460 or 464 Mhz. Typically Tetra is a lot lower power, usually 1 or 2W, the 888's can put out up to 5W. They don;t need more as they have base stations in most towns, and lower transmit power means better battery life.You can't hear them but If the 888 is closer to the base station than the Tetra device then the 888 will effectively overwrite the Terta unit signal blocking the use. Think of it another way. If you want to whisper something in your friends ear, and I shout a few CM away then the chances are your friend will not hear you. As I move further away at some point your whisper is going to sound louder than my shouting and they can hear you. If does not make any difference if you talk in English, and I shout in French, your words will still be lost, Thats more or less how what happens to the radio signals. The fact is digital makes no difference to the fact the signal will be lost if there is something broadcasting a stronger signal closer by.



Outgeek'd. I just wonder how a digital network uses radio frequencies.

gavin1

You certainly do, they put out 5W whereas PMR446 spec radio's are limited … You certainly do, they put out 5W whereas PMR446 spec radio's are limited to .5W so even if you program them to PMR frequencies they'd still be illegal.As mentioned before getting caught is another matter, however reports are that by default they will be on frequencies used by t UK emergency services. http://www.essexham.co.uk/news/baofeng-bf-888s-review.htm You won't hear them, they use digital radio and this is analogue but you could block or disrupt them.Don't get me wrong Baofeng (Also called PoFang now) have done a brilliant job in making these type of radios cheap and really good for the money, but they still need a licence in the UK.



Easy to reprogram to pmr frequencies, if you are worried.

Spaz

Easy to reprogram to pmr frequencies, if you are worried.



I know and I said that but they are not type approved as they are too powerful for PMR use so still illegal..

What worries me more is the people who buy these as they are cheap, have no idea about radio frequencies (or do and don't care) them and then block out other signals that are more important.

And no its not just the people buying them the Ebay seller who flog them without at least warning you they are illegal to use are just as bad.

Worse case is life or death, if the fire or ambulance service don't get a call because their radios can't hear their base station due to someone using these then it could well be fatal. OK, that's going to be a really rare occurrence, but as they are so cheap people buy them without even thinking of the consequences.
Edited by: "gavin1" 23rd Jan 2015
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