Marantz PM6005 Integrated Amplifier with Digital Input - Amazon and Richer Sounds £259 Delivered
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Marantz PM6005 Integrated Amplifier with Digital Input - Amazon and Richer Sounds £259 Delivered

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Found 13th Apr 2014
UPDATE 26th April:
It's down again! Grab it before it surges back up! Now £259 from Amazon and Richer Sounds!

Email from camelcamelcamel states this is the lowest price for this amplifier. EDIT: A few Amazon sellers are now at £259! For Richer Sounds use the VIP voucher to get it even cheaper! (VIP Club members get a £10 off £100 spend voucher from Richer Sounds!)

Marantz PM6005 Integrated Amplifier with Digital Input

The PM6005 is much more than an upgraded successor to the multi-award-winning PM6004, because now you can connect this superb integrated amplifier directly to a vast range of digital sources and use its high-quality DAC to create a high level of audio enjoyment with media.

Of course, Marantz have retained the pre-amp and power-amp sections that feature discrete components – not a single IC in sight of the signal path. That's because specially selected single components not only outperform ICs in quality, they also make it possible to refine the sound in much more detail, resulting in more clarity and transparency.

Marantz have also retained the lower impedance shielded Toroidal transformer, as well as the customised main capacitors, and of course all of the original features – including five-line audio input including phono, two pairs of gold-plated speaker connections with the convenience of bi-wiring, and a remote handset – are still present. The unit includes optical and coaxial digital inputs.

The DAC is the 24 bit/192 kHz high-current CS4398, which is already proven in many premium range products, and the complete digital section is fully shielded by an extra metal housing to ensure that the digital stage has no effect on the analogue signal. In short, the PM6005 is your proven and excellent bridge to the future.

Box Contains
1 x PM6005 integrated amplifier
1 x RC001PMCD remote control
1 x Power cord
2 x R03/AAA batteries
1 x Getting started guide
1 x Owner's manual CD-ROM
1 x Safety instructions

23 Comments

Original Poster

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Crackin price, good find. Heat from me

Original Poster

nptrem

Crackin price, good find. Heat from me


Not heard it yet and wondering if it can beat my Cyrus Two... They're difficult to beat unless you spend a lot more! BUT, I really like the idea of the built in CS4398 DAC, excellent idea I reckon!

Quite nice but only 45W RMS per channel.

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alasrati

Quite nice but only 45W RMS per channel.


I have 25W per channel amplifiers that blow the socks off my nasty 100W Rotel power amplifier.
But if want extra power on tap that you (hopefully for your neighbour's and ear's sake) won't use, then there's plenty of cheap AV amplifiers out there with silly wattages.
Edited by: "bleachingshane" 14th Apr 2014

bleachershane

Not heard it yet and wondering if it can beat my Cyrus Two... They're … Not heard it yet and wondering if it can beat my Cyrus Two... They're difficult to beat unless you spend a lot more! BUT, I really like the idea of the built in CS4398 DAC, excellent idea I reckon!



I've been thinking the same of my John Shearne Phase 2/3 combo, and TEAC D-T1 DAC... they were very difficult to beat in their day, but I'm more than curious as to whether the built-in DAC might not provide a superior sound to a combination of 90s equipment.

bleachershane

I have 25W per channel amplifiers that blow the socks off my nasty 100W … I have 25W per channel amplifiers that blow the socks off my nasty 100W Rotel power amplifier. But if want extra power on tap that you (hopefully for your neighbour's and ear's sake) won't use, then there's plenty of cheap AV amplifiers out there with silly wattages.


When you look into it, the cheapo AV amps which state "120W per channel" can't actually produce a sustained 120W RMS per channel at 8 Ohms for all channels at once. They invariably "cheat" in some way. So even if they could produce decent sound quality, they don't actually have that much power.

I went from a Marantz amp with 35W per channel to a Harman Kardon HK3490 with 120W per channel and heard a large improvement. It could have been due to some other aspect of the amps rather than merely power though.

Unfortunately the HK3490 has developed a fault (static coming from one channel) and is outside its warranty. I am looking to replace it with another integrated stereo amp with DAC. Hence my interest in this deal.

There is the Onkyo A-9050 which has 75W but not sure about Onkyo for stereo.

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jasejames

I've been thinking the same of my John Shearne Phase 2/3 combo, and TEAC … I've been thinking the same of my John Shearne Phase 2/3 combo, and TEAC D-T1 DAC... they were very difficult to beat in their day, but I'm more than curious as to whether the built-in DAC might not provide a superior sound to a combination of 90s equipment.



Cyrus One and Two's, once refurbed (I do them myself and have done them for others) are outstandingly musical amplifiers, and I've been told I'd need to look at least a current Cyrus and upwards to get anywhere near the quality. But, I really would like to get a listen to this amplifier with some music I'm familiar with, and preferably against my own amplifier for comparison.

I'd be interested to see how the in-built DAC compares to your TEAC D-T1 (which has a TDA1547 DAC chip inside it). I can tell you that the CS4398 DAC that Marantz have used here is outstanding. It's built into my E-MU 1616M soundcard and it never fails to draw out every ounce of detail, which I'm a sucker for. Brilliant chip, hope they've implemented it well, but they're one of the only mid-fi companies that use it, after that it's mostly found in esoteric top end CD players!

Original Poster

alasrati

When you look into it, the cheapo AV amps which state "120W per channel" … When you look into it, the cheapo AV amps which state "120W per channel" can't actually produce a sustained 120W RMS per channel at 8 Ohms for all channels at once. They invariably "cheat" in some way. So even if they could produce decent sound quality, they don't actually have that much power.I went from a Marantz amp with 35W per channel to a Harman Kardon HK3490 with 120W per channel and heard a large improvement. It could have been due to some other aspect of the amps rather than merely power though.Unfortunately the HK3490 has developed a fault (static coming from one channel) and is outside its warranty. I am looking to replace it with another integrated stereo amp with DAC. Hence my interest in this deal.There is the Onkyo A-9050 which has 75W but not sure about Onkyo for stereo.



Shame about the HK, no way to get it repaired? Onkyo make decent AV amplifiers (more features than sound quality mind you) and I've never heard anyone say much about their stereo efforts. I think this Marantz would probably outperform an Onkyo in term of musicality, without doubt. As I said in my reply to jasejames, the CS4398 DAC chip in these is excellent, if it's been implemented well and the rest of the amplifier is up to the quality of it!

I will have to check the sound quality of this thing. The spec is good, and the reviews seem decent, but the mere fact that it has a quality DAC doesn't necessarily guarantee much. It's possible to buy a circuit board with the CS4816/CS4398 on eBay for 12 quid; I'm almost tempted to buy one (I've used a few of this type of module to revamp cheap CD players with good results).

So how does this Cirrus compare with the Wolfson series (something like the 8741)?
Edited by: "jasejames" 15th Apr 2014

Ah to heck with it; one module bought, with this amp no doubt to follow (I'm a right sucker for new shiny things lol):

ebay.co.uk/itm…371
Edited by: "jasejames" 15th Apr 2014

Original Poster

jasejames

Ah to heck with it; one module bought, with this amp no doubt to follow … Ah to heck with it; one module bought, with this amp no doubt to follow (I'm a right sucker for new shiny things lol):http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251456349371



You know your stuff, a good DAC chip does not mean a good DAC good in a well designed circuit. But Marantz have stuck with the CS4398 for quite a few years now, they can't be implementing them badly if they're still using them and customers aren't complaining!

Give me a buzz when you get that board, always meant to pick up one but what with it being in my E-MU 1616M I've never bothered, I do nearly all my playback through it, but I'd love to get my Freeview HD box and a decent CD transport through the CS4398 in this Marantz amp! Argh... too tempting... too many other expenditures... want shiny thing!

Original Poster

They apparently compare up there with the top Wolfson DAC chips, more personal preference separating them really.

The Onkyo has a Wolfson WM8718.

Just noticed there is an Onkyo A-9070 with 2x140W. £800 though. EDIT - nvm that is 140W at 4 Ohms.

I'm going to see if I can either repair the HK myself or pay to get it repaired. Even if it costs £150 it's still the cheapest way for me to get >100W per channel, built-in DAC and decent sound quality.

Anyway, nice to see a proper hifi deal on here. Thanks for posting it.
Edited by: "alasrati" 15th Apr 2014

Original Poster

alasrati

The Onkyo has a Wolfson WM8718.Just noticed there is an Onkyo A-9070 with … The Onkyo has a Wolfson WM8718.Just noticed there is an Onkyo A-9070 with 2x140W. £800 though. EDIT - nvm that is 140W at 4 Ohms.I'm going to see if I can either repair the HK myself or pay to get it repaired. Even if it costs £150 it's still the cheapest way for me to get >100W per channel, built-in DAC and decent sound quality.Anyway, nice to see a proper hifi deal on here. Thanks for posting it.



It surprises me how few 'real' pieces of hi-fi equipment turn up around these parts! More hi-fi deals

For £800 you can do a LOT better than that Onkyo! All I can vouch for so far is the DAC chip used in the Marantz. I've read plenty of reviews, but I don't trust reviews any more, only my ears! Get a listen if you can!

Definitely worth seeing if you can get the HK looked at. If you were local I'd have had a look at it myself (I upgrade and repair amplifiers on a regular basis). It's a pretty well specced amplifier, and the DAC chip still has a reasonable spec. Good luck getting it sorted!

I just literally spat a whole KitKat out when I saw this price on Amazon and rushed straight over here to post the deal!

Absolutely jaw-dropping price! Buy, buy, buy.
Edited by: "josephmccowie" 17th Apr 2014

Original Poster

josephmccowie

I just literally spat a whole KitKat out when I saw this price on Amazon … I just literally spat a whole KitKat out when I saw this price on Amazon and rushed straight over here to post the deal!Absolutely jaw-dropping price! Buy, buy, buy.



Have you heard this amplifier? How does it sound to you?

bleachershane

Have you heard this amplifier? How does it sound to you?



I've heard the PM6004 with Monitor Audio RX1s and that was sweet. Very sweet.

Earlier Marantz amps (we're talking a fair few years back) would have been a little bright when paired with MA speakers, but the 6004 and Silver RX synergy is really good.

I was blown away by it, probably due to the fact that I was using a throwaway Pioneer amp previously.

This amp is pretty similar to the 6004, just with an added DAC and some tweaks to the sound - though I haven't heard it to hear the exact differences (I'm not confident I'd be able to tell the difference). I am very interested to hear the DAC - but again I imagine I'll be hard-pressed to notice and significant changes to other budget DACs.

I'm actually quite tempted by the £240 Warehouse Deal available on Amazon at the moment! I don't doubt that'll be gone by the morning!

It goes beautifully with the MA Silver RX1s but your system will be different...



Edited by: "josephmccowie" 17th Apr 2014

Original Poster

Current VIP voucher to make this £258 from Richer Sounds! Bargain!

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bleachershane

Current VIP voucher to make this £258 from Richer Sounds! Bargain!



Are you kidding!

About an hour ago Amazon dispatched mine at £268 for delivery on Tuesday! (I caved)

There's a Richer Sounds just a light rail ride away...

So angry.
Edited by: "josephmccowie" 17th Apr 2014

Worst part is, they 'forgot' to put it on the right collection so it's not going to be delivered on Saturday, I have to wait the whole damn weekend.

Plus I can't cancel it now it's been dispatched.

Original Poster

josephmccowie

Worst part is, they 'forgot' to put it on the right collection so it's … Worst part is, they 'forgot' to put it on the right collection so it's not going to be delivered on Saturday, I have to wait the whole damn weekend. Plus I can't cancel it now it's been dispatched.



Ahh no! Shame, I always prefer to get something like this in-store (easier for returns should anything go wrong) but I noticed Richer Sounds had emailed a discount voucher out so decided to share it... Sorry it was just too late for you!
Edited by: "bleachingshane" 17th Apr 2014

bleachershane

Ahh no! Shame, I always prefer to get something like this in-store … Ahh no! Shame, I always prefer to get something like this in-store (easier for returns should anything go wrong) but I noticed Richer Sounds had emailed a discount voucher out so decided to share it... Sorry it was just too late for you!



Haha, I'm always unlucky with this kind of thing! Lesson learned. Cheers anyway, it'll definitely help someone!
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