Marina 360 fish tank inc pump, led light & filter was £45 now £25 @ Pets at Home
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Marina 360 fish tank inc pump, led light & filter was £45 now £25 @ Pets at Home

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Found 15th May 2014
I love these small tanks, ideal for kids with shrimps or some white cloud minnows or some nice danio's. They are only 10 litres and the light unit is amazing and looks great at night on the kitchen work top with it being LED. It has 2 modes with bright daytime or blue tinted night time, you pay a fortune for these lights on the Biorbs. If you spend over £29 you get free home delivery so add 3 ornaments from their £2 range which are on 3 for 2 or some gravel and you've got a really cheap complete set up or you can collect in store for free. 4% Quidco possible as well. They seem to be selling for this or more second hand on Ebay. Currently £39.99 on Amazon

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If I'm buying fish for the first time is there anything else I should be purchasing with this tank, apart from the fish and fish food?

Thanks

Edited by: "Egoman" 15th May 2014

Tap safe, stress coat and food.

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Egoman

If I'm buying fish for the first time is there anything else I should be … If I'm buying fish for the first time is there anything else I should be purchasing with this tank, apart from the fish?Thanks


You need to cycle the tank before you add the fish, which is basically setting it up and letting the pump and filter run for a few days to get rid of chlorine in the tap water, you can speed this up by buying a water dechlorinator but I find cycling it best. Leave it 48 hours with the pump running before you start adding any fish. I'd also suggest every week you take about 2 litres out of it with a pint glass and replace it with clean water. Get a real plant in it as well as the fish will love to hide and eat that. Oh and of course you'll need fish food too (_;)
Edited by: "emribena" 15th May 2014

emribena

You need to cycle the tank before you add the fish, which is basically … You need to cycle the tank before you add the fish, which is basically setting it up and letting the pump and filter run for a few days to get rid of chlorine in the tap water, you can speed this up by buying a water dechlorinator but I find cycling it best. Leave it 48 hours with the pump running before you start adding any fish. I'd also suggest every week you take about 2 litres out of it with a pint glass and replace it with clean water. Get a real plant in it as well as the fish will love to hide and eat that. Oh and of course you'll need fish food too (_;)



Thats not how you cycle an aquarium...

Fish or Fishless Cycling

cloud mountain minnows are very active and do best in groups, this might look good with them in but putting anything other than a few neons or shrimp in a 10l tank is cruel..adding 3 ornaments the tank will just take up room

it's a good buy as long as you use it for what it's really designed for

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cheejy

Thats not how you cycle an aquarium... :pFish or Fishless Cycling

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Egoman

If I'm buying fish for the first time is there anything else I should be … If I'm buying fish for the first time is there anything else I should be purchasing with this tank, apart from the fish and fish food?Thanks



The best advise is to have a read on a few fish keeping forums before you buy anything.

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.
How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?

Cheers

is it electric or battery operated

Egoman

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How … Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?Cheers

48 hours is no where near enough for a proper cycle! To speed it up you can add live bacteria, but thsi would still need a least a week bare minium really

Tank should be cleaned around once a week, only about 20% cleaned at a time.

Best plants would depend what your using the tank for i.e. tropical or cold water?

What you will find with fish keeping is theres many different opinions on what is right and wrong.

Whats the best coldwater fish to keep in a tank this size? i dont want them to be overcrowded. will be just adding one plant

emribena

You need to cycle the tank before you add the fish, which is basically … You need to cycle the tank before you add the fish, which is basically setting it up and letting the pump and filter run for a few days to get rid of chlorine in the tap water, you can speed this up by buying a water dechlorinator but I find cycling it best. Leave it 48 hours with the pump running before you start adding any fish. I'd also suggest every week you take about 2 litres out of it with a pint glass and replace it with clean water. Get a real plant in it as well as the fish will love to hide and eat that. Oh and of course you'll need fish food too (_;)



Please don't think a tank is cycled after a couple of days. It's quite a lengthy process, but once you've read up on it it isn't very difficult

I remember when I was younger and had a basic tank the wall of the tank would get very dirty, does that still happen with modern tanks with a filter?

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Egoman

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How … Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?Cheers


If you take out about 2 litres of water out every week and wash the filters out every month then use an specific plastic tank cloth to wipe the plastic if you get any algae growing. You can't buy the fish the same time as the tank, they won't let you and it's a surefire way to kill the fish. Set it up, put the gravel, and ornaments and water in and turn on the pump and filter. You can get something called filter boost which will give your filter a kick start with some friendly bacteria (Bit like yakult for fish tanks) wait for at least 48 hours then you can add your fish. Any cold water plant will do depending on what your shop sells but a nice common one is elodea densa, will put a picture up. If your tank is really really dirty, you can always give it a full clean by emptying the dirty water from the tank with all your fish into a clean bucket, then clean your tank and gravel obviously not using any chemicals and be careful as this is acrylic and will scratch if you don't use the proper cloths to clean. Then when you want to put the fish back in, add about half the dirty water and half clean water and add some dechlorinator. But if you take 2 litres out each week and rinse the filters you shouldn't really need to do a full clean. I have snails that eat the algae off the plastic and ornaments but be careful as they breed like rabbits and can take over unless you keep them under control

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williamveighey

is it electric or battery operated


Plug in electric

Egoman

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How … Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?Cheers


there is no such thing as a 48hr cycle, search ebay for a plant, java fern usually grows well and fish wont eat it, depends on what you are putting in the tank though

this tank is really too small for a java fern plant unless you want to keep trimming it

the fish stay in the tank when you clean it, again depends what's in there, if it's in direct sunlight and if you don't care about green sides of the tank

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swtchick87

Whats the best coldwater fish to keep in a tank this size? i dont want … Whats the best coldwater fish to keep in a tank this size? i dont want them to be overcrowded. will be just adding one plant


Shrimps are good, you can get some really colourful ones like cherry or sunkist one's and they are interesting at night but fish wise you can have a few white cloud minnows or rosy white cloud minnows or some leopard or zebra danio's. The rule for stocking coldwater or temperate fish is 0.5cm of fish per litre of water excluding tail but snails and shrimps are not supposed to contribute to that measurement

Egoman

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How … Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?Cheers



An aquarium won't cycle in 48hrs unless you put fish in (this will stress the fish and possibly kill them). Much better to perform a fishless cycle (between 2-6 weeks), you also need tesk kits to monitor ammonia, nitrite and nitrate otherwise you will not know when the tank has cycled. Fish keeping is a very rewarding hobby if it's done properly. As far as cleaning goes you just maintain the filter, perform regular water changes, clean the substrate etc (never completely empty the aquarium to clean it or you will start a new cycle).

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Here is some advice from pets at home but as has been said like when you have children, everyone will give you conflicting advice so follow one set of rules and see what works for you. I have been successfully fishkeeping for 28 years
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Egoman

Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How … Thank you for your advice - a few more questions have now arisen.How often should a tank like this need to be cleaned? and if I am cleaning it how would I do a 48hr cycle without the dechlorinator? bit confused what I do with the fish while I'm cleaning or do I need another tank? (Might be overthinking this now sorry!) What plant would you recommend for a tank of this size please?Cheers



Just to confirm the cycle process is 'not' flushing the chlorine from the system and certainly will not take 48hrs.

Ammonia>nitrite>nitrate is the cycle process.

You do not normally need to do a full clean out once your tank has fully cycled you mainly maintain the system,like water changes each week,normally around 10%,,in my marines i do around 20%.

Doing a full clean out will put you back to square one,you will then have recycle the tank,this can take weeks for the filter to populate and now you have fish in there to cope with the levels of Amonia>nitrite before it's converted to nitrate.

If your using a powerfilter with sponge example,this can clog,so a quick clean if this is needed every now and then,this is only to be cleaned in the tank water itself during a water change,if you use tap water it will kill of the good bacteria growth,and could cause a amonia/nitrite spike in the system.

Join a forum and read up was some good advice given further up.

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crgglerock

Just to confirm the cycle process is 'not' flushing the chlorine from the … Just to confirm the cycle process is 'not' flushing the chlorine from the system and certainly will not take 48hrs.Ammonia>nitrite>nitrate is the cycle process.You do not normally need to do a full clean out once your tank has fully cycled you mainly maintain the system,like water changes each week,normally around 10%,,in my marines i do around 20%.Doing a full clean out will put you back to square one,you will then have recycle the tank,this can take weeks for the filter to populate and now you have fish in there to cope with the levels of Amonia>nitrite before it's converted to nitrate.If your using a powerfilter with sponge example,this can clog,so a quick clean if this is needed every now and then,this is only to be cleaned in the tank water itself during a water change,if you use tap water it will kill of the good bacteria growth,and could cause a amonia/nitrite spike in the system.Join a forum and read up was some good advice given further up.


The filter on these are cartridge type with zeolite and carbon, wash them out on some of the removed tank water not tap water as crgglerock says it will get rid of all the good bacteria.

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Voted cold because it's too small for fish. Sorry.

Please be aware that sites that calculate stocking levels indicate this tank only hold 10-12 cm worth of fish. So that's about 5-6 neon tetras at full size. Don't be irresponsible to the little blighters and cram it full of fish. Also this is not suitable for a goldfish, you need a much larger tank.

Nobody should purchase this tank for goldfish, It is far to small and will result in a dead fish, goldfish produce a lot more waste than most other fish, they end up living in the own urine/ammonia as they are constantly producing waste, and they are Basicly shi#ting machines, this is what kills them and it is not a very nice death as the increased ammonia levels becomes an unbearable irritation the the fishes gills and flesh. Thus aquarium is only really suitable for a few shrimp and aquatic snails.

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sohotrightnow

Please be aware that sites that calculate stocking levels indicate this … Please be aware that sites that calculate stocking levels indicate this tank only hold 10-12 cm worth of fish. So that's about 5-6 neon tetras at full size. Don't be irresponsible to the little blighters and cram it full of fish. Also this is not suitable for a goldfish, you need a much larger tank.


POWYSWALES

Nobody should purchase this tank for goldfish, It is far to small and … Nobody should purchase this tank for goldfish, It is far to small and will result in a dead fish, goldfish produce a lot more waste than most other fish, they end up living in the own urine/ammonia as they are constantly producing waste, and they are Basicly shi#ting machines, this is what kills them and it is not a very nice death as the increased ammonia levels becomes an unbearable irritation the the fishes gills and flesh. Thus aquarium is only really suitable for a few shrimp and aquatic snails.


Nobody is suggesting for goldfish, shrimps are ideal and look great at night with the led light on or if you upgrade and get a heater a reckon bumble bee gobies would be amazing

oh dear "fish nerds"

hot deal BTW. - Tropical fish are hardy enough. just put some tap water in and a squit of "tap safe" and your good to go.

usetheforceluke

oh dear "fish nerds" :)hot deal BTW. - Tropical fish are hardy enough. … oh dear "fish nerds" :)hot deal BTW. - Tropical fish are hardy enough. just put some tap water in and a squit of "tap safe" and your good to go.



Idiot.

Tank is too small for practically most fish really but would be okay for a planted cherry shrimp or snail setup.

I have one of these and keep a Wells Catfish in it (_;)

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Think it should be made clear that the minimum size tank for ANY fish is 10 Gallons (45 litres) with a regular surface area (ie not a bowl or tall tank, tube etc), not my opinion but the general consensus among the fish keeping community . These sort of tanks are fine for plants, shrimps etc. Retailers like Pets@Home are not the place to get good advise about keeping fish.

Also the larger the tank the more stable the environment for your fishes and generally easier to maintain.
Edited by: "mtc1" 15th May 2014

emribena

snails and shrimps are not supposed to contribute to that measurement



Umm. No.

Snails and shrimps produce waste. Waste generates ammonia. They count! Any living creature counts towards the bio-load of a tank.

mtc1

Pets@Home are not place to get good advise about keeping fish.



Amen. They're idiots. I've seen them sell people a 30L BiOrb and half a dozen goldfish to put in it. And also telling them to just add a little water conditioner and chuck them straight in. That about as bad advice as you can get.

Edited by: "sancheez" 15th May 2014

Although there is conflicting advise online about keeping fish and some people will swear that you're wrong because:

Oh well my auntie's friend's cousin's monkey kept a goldfish for 20 years … Oh well my auntie's friend's cousin's monkey kept a goldfish for 20 years in a bowl without a filter and that was fine...




There are simple basic scientific guidelines that people should follow to be successful (knowing about what cycling actually is for example)
There are also massive amounts of information online such as on fishforums.net/ - not everyone always agrees on there, but due to the volume of people keeping fish they can tell you the best way to keep fish as they know what circumstances are most likely to lead to success. Best = least suffering = longest lifespan + lowest % deaths.

That all said, and based on not just my experience but having spent far too many hours on fish forums... do NOT put fish in this 'tank'. 10l is nothing... shrimp have incredibly low bio-load for their size and are very entertaining... same goes for snails. These are the only organisms suitable for this size tank... (unless you go salt water of course but that's a whole other ball game).

If you know someone with a tank you could get some filter media from them to kick start your cycle. Which is what I plan to do with my next tank, but honestly it really is quite enjoyable to go through the process properly.


Fish geek xx

Wouldn't even put shrimp in this, they need a well matured tank to live in, and this wouldn't mature for months even with dosing with ammonia to fishless cycle it.

Yep I'd agree with the sensible folk - read a proper fish forum for a week or so, then decide on what you want to keep, then choose a tank, cycle it and then go buy the fish/shrimp a few weeks later. Impulse buying a tank and sticking some stuff in it will end in dead fish/shrimp.

Covert this to marine?

lol. I wonder if anyone has ever bothered. Would seem a bit pointless and probably cost several times the cost of the kit to do it and get it stable. To keep what in it ... a couple of lumps of coral?

I've seen converted BiOrbs and they look great but it seems like an awful lot of work.

And then one wrong move and WHAM ...... everythings dead.

Was looking at these.. Just want a couple of fish.. Is this ok for that? Also pets at home said I need to get some chemicals as tap water is bad for fish now?
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