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Maximuscle Cyclone Protein Shake 1.2kg Orange Flavour £29.00 @ Monstersupplements
Maximuscle Cyclone Protein Shake 1.2kg Orange Flavour £29.00  @ Monstersupplements

Maximuscle Cyclone Protein Shake 1.2kg Orange Flavour £29.00 @ Monstersupplements

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IF YOU BUY THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR YOUR TRAINING YOU WILL KNOW THAT CYCLONE IS THE BEST ALL IN ONE ON THE MARKET AND YOU WILL ALSO KNOW THAT IT COSTS FROM NORMALLY £36 A TUB EVERYHWHERE, SO FOR £29 THIS IS A LOW PRICE.....

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Maximuscle Cyclone is Monsters 2007 winner and The Ultimate 'all in one' Power Product. The ultimate all in one formula for packing on muscle, strength and power - . Maximuscle Cyclone has become the number one selling formula for increasing lean muscle, strength and power. Its industry leading formula includes the most exciting and powerful anabolic nutrients to ever come onto the market - more importantly in dosages that work. Each daily serving provides an amazing 10gms of Maxpure Creatine Monohydrate and 10gm of extra Glutamine. The latter being highly anabolic, promoting muscle growth, energy and nitrogen retention, whilst optimising growth hormone. Maximuscle Cyclone....
To ensure optimum uptake, the first ever patent pending Bicarbonate alkaline blend is included to counteract the acid conditions of the stomach that prevents glutamine uptake and converts Creatine to the waste product Creatinine. The correct amounts of Dextrose are included to ensure the correct insulin spike, essential to force feed your muscles full of amino acids and Creatine. 3000mg of research proven HMB and 80mg of Beta-Ecdysterone is included to dramatically increase muscle tissue, recovery and improve nitrogen retention, whilst also preventing muscle loss.
If you bought the same amount of Creatine, HMB, Chromium, Glutamine, Bicarbonate, Bioperine, Beta-Ecdysterone and MCT, you would have to spend around £250 a month. Cyclone only costs a fraction of this. Maximuscle are the first company to be able to combine all these ingredients into an amazing tasting milkshake, by using advanced micro-encapsulated technology, which creates a perfect tasting formula with greater absorption

Nutritional Breakdown for: Maximuscle Cyclone : 1.2kg****SPECIAL OFFER***
Per 1 serving = 60g (1.5 scoops)
Energy 230kcal/962kJ
Protein 30g
Carbohydrate 21g
Total Fats (includes MCTs & EFAs) 4.68g
Ingredients: Maximuscle Cyclone : 1.2kg****SPECIAL OFFER***
Per 1 serving = 60g (1.5 scoops)
Creatine Monohydrate 5.1g
Glutamine 5.1g
HMB® (Enzymatic Metabolite of Leucine) 1.5g
Potassium Bicarbonate 500mg
Sodium Bicarbonate 500mg
Beta-Ecdysterone (97%) from Suma 40mg
Bioperine 5mg
Chromium picolinate 241µg
Please note: Maximuscle owns HMB trademark

51 Comments

Original Poster

good to see people are leavin comments as to why its cold..... have u seen it cheaper?

Because Maximuscle is massively overpriced for the weight you get. A good supplement, over priced.

Original Poster

overpriced but like i sed, is this available cheaper?

is this something u can only take for muscle build as a supplement?
i am curretly living on complan but its quite highly priced so im looking for an alternative

Won't vote either way because it's cheaper but not worth purchasing when you get the same results with the MP equivalent - myprotein.com/uk/…_xs - Twice as much for the price when you include delivery.

edjaned

is this something u can only take for muscle build as a supplement?i am … is this something u can only take for muscle build as a supplement?i am curretly living on complan but its quite highly priced so im looking for an alternative



Not really designed as a meal replacement.

Matt.Wild

Not really designed as a meal replacement.


was hoping maybe it would stop me loosing anymore weight
thanks anyway

Almost twice the amount for £3 more - musclefinesse.com/ref…spx - also use the code MUSCLETALK10 on Tuesday between 9am and 9pm and get 10% off...

edjaned

was hoping maybe it would stop me loosing anymore weightthanks anyway



Can you not eat more real food? Macro nutrients in food are imporant, supplements whilst good cannot replace real food (and bare in mind I work for the body building brand gaspari.co.uk so its not like I'm trying to be patronising or the like, since I help sell the stuff - just being truthful and upfront!).

i cant i have some sort of lump in throat that has affected my swallow,i have given up eating all together until i have hospital appt on 7th dec
its just costing me a fortune drinking this complan all the time and im getting a bit sick of it tbh
thanks anyway for your advice

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edjaned

is this something u can only take for muscle build as a supplement?i am … is this something u can only take for muscle build as a supplement?i am curretly living on complan but its quite highly priced so im looking for an alternative



try maximuscle progain extreme mate, its a weight gainer and is really good, i packed on 2 stone of weight in 6 months and i wasnt eating consistently either, maximuscle is over priced but the products do work and are really good. the protein they use is the purest form of whey isolate, u myt get more with other brands i.e PHD synergy but the protein content is 'watered' down with whey concentrate which is not so good for you which seems like ur getting more as the tub is bigger but this isnt actually the case
Edited by: "Ashamuk" 17th Nov 2010

Ashamuk

try maximuscle progain extreme mate, its a weight gainer and is really … try maximuscle progain extreme mate, its a weight gainer and is really good, i packed on 2 stone of weight in 6 months and i wasnt eating consistently either, maximuscle is over priced but the products do work and are really good. the protein they use is the purest form of whey, u myt get more with other brands i.e PHD synergy but the protein content is 'watered' down with whey concentrate which is not so good for you which seems like ur getting more as the tub is bigger but this isnt actually the case



What wacky backy are you smoking bucky?

Watered down whey protein concentrate? LOL

The difference in protein types simply effects the speed it will be digested. There is no such thing as a watered down protein. Protein is protein when you are talking about cheese or milk based whey - its all from cheese or milk. Stop talking guff.

Ashamuk

try maximuscle progain extreme mate, its a weight gainer and is really … try maximuscle progain extreme mate, its a weight gainer and is really good, i packed on 2 stone of weight in 6 months and i wasnt eating consistently either, maximuscle is over priced but the products do work and are really good. the protein they use is the purest form of whey, u myt get more with other brands i.e PHD synergy but the protein content is 'watered' down with whey concentrate which is not so good for you which seems like ur getting more as the tub is bigger but this isnt actually the case


great thank you will have a look at that,do they do it in different flavours?any u can recomend please?

edjaned

great thank you will have a look at that,do they do it in different … great thank you will have a look at that,do they do it in different flavours?any u can recomend please?



With all due respect you are taking in bad advice. Whilst Maximuscle WILL help you gain weight, there are as good brands for less than half the price. Maximuscle IS NOT a bad brand, simply overpriced.

Original Poster

Matt.Wild

What wacky backy are you smoking bucky?Watered down whey protein … What wacky backy are you smoking bucky?Watered down whey protein concentrate? LOLThe difference in protein types simply effects the speed it will be digested. There is no such thing as a watered down protein. Protein is protein when you are talking about cheese or milk based whey - its all from cheese or milk. Stop talking guff.



u dont seem to know much for someone who works in the industry my friend, many of the supplements which have BIGGER tubs tend to be mixed heavily with whey concentrate and the more expensive supplements have none or less, i.e maximuscle. the reason why maximuscle is heavily priced is part to do with most of their range is made with mostly if not all whey isolate and costs more money to make as the fat and cholestereol is burnt away and therefore the protein intake from the shakes is 90% plus by weight, concentrate the protein by weight in the shake is from 29% to 89%, so the tub is bigger and seems better value but the nutritional protein abosrtion is far more with maximuscle and isolate ranges!

what would u recommend then as a meal replacement? i just dont want to lose any more weight
thanks

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edjaned

[quote=edjaned]i cant i have some sort of lump in throat that has … [quote=edjaned]i cant i have some sort of lump in throat that has affected my swallow,i have given up eating all together until i have hospital appt on 7th decits just costing me a fortune drinking this complan all the time and im getting a bit sick of it tbhthanks anyway for your advice


The NHS will sort you out for free.
Edited by: "Mascherano" 17th Nov 2010

Mascherano

The NHS will sort you out for free.


no they wont been back and fourth to docs many times and they never give me anything

Original Poster

muscleandstrength.com/sup…tml

What types of whey protein are there?
There are 2 major types of whey protein, whey protein concentrate and whey protein isolate. Whey protein concentrate is low in fat, has a highest biological value and is typically about 75% pure protein by weight. Whey protein isolate is whey in it's purest form. Isolates are processed to remove fat and lactose. Typically whey protein isolate is about 90%+ pure protein by weight.

Whey protein supplements generally fall into 3 categories. Whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate and whey protein blends. Whey protein concentrate powders are the cheapest, but have the highest levels of fat and lactose. Whey protein isolate powders have the most amount of protein per serving and literally zero carbs, lactose and fat. These are generally priced higher than concentrate. And finally, whey protein blends are the most popular of the whey protein powders. As the name suggests, these products combine whey protein isolate and concentrate to make a high quality product (with an awesome amino acid profile), at an affordable cost to the consumer.

edjaned

what would u recommend then as a meal replacement? i just dont want to … what would u recommend then as a meal replacement? i just dont want to lose any more weightthanks



Fine oats/wheat germ mixed with milk,olive oil and your favourite protein powder(reflex would my choice).Can also blend fruit into the mix if you wish.

Original Poster

edjaned

what would u recommend then as a meal replacement? i just dont want to … what would u recommend then as a meal replacement? i just dont want to lose any more weightthanks



myprotein.com/uk/…mrp

use these mate, these are really good and really nice!
high in nutritional content and affordable, iv been using these for the last two years in between meals

Ashamuk

u dont seem to know much for someone who works in the industry my friend, … u dont seem to know much for someone who works in the industry my friend, many of the supplements which have BIGGER tubs tend to be mixed heavily with whey concentrate and the more expensive supplements have none or less, i.e maximuscle. the reason why maximuscle is heavily priced is part to do with most of their range is made with mostly if not all whey isolate and costs more money to make as the fat and cholestereol is burnt away and therefore the protein intake from the shakes is 90% plus by weight, concentrate the protein by weight in the shake is from 29% to 89%, so the tub is bigger and seems better value but the nutritional protein abosrtion is far more with maximuscle and isolate ranges!



Whey isolate is digested far quicker than WPC. This is good for post workout. However for a general all in one you need a blend. This means a blend of say isolate/egg albumin/casein. This means you get a quick intake (isolate), moderate speed (egg) and slow (casein). One mostly made of isolate is poor since it gets absorbed too quickly. Whats more, you can't claim its 89% isolate since the link provided says it is a proprietary blend - they don't tell you what the protein levels are and which protein provides them.

As for for fats - they are needed! For anyone who trains, you need your fats. They are what surround your muscle. Without fat, you have no membrane and no membrane repair for when you work out. No fat = poor muscle membrane repair.

Since its an all in one, the carbohydrate from the milk sugar (lactose) doesn't matter since it has carbs added in on top which are actually dextrose. Dextrose being the cheapest form of sugar available to add to supplements. If this was any good it would use vitargo or Waxy Maize Starch as its carb rather than cheap dextrose (at 79p/kilo wholesale).

So going back to WPC and isolate, remind me how it is a better protein bar the fact it is absorbed quicker?

Ashamuk

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/supplements/ingredients/whey-protein.htmlWhat types of whey protein are there?There are 2 major types of whey protein, whey protein concentrate and whey protein isolate. Whey protein concentrate is low in fat, has a highest biological value and is typically about 75% pure protein by weight. Whey protein isolate is whey in it's purest form. Isolates are processed to remove fat and lactose. Typically whey protein isolate is about 90%+ pure protein by weight.Whey protein supplements generally fall into 3 categories. Whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate and whey protein blends. Whey protein concentrate powders are the cheapest, but have the highest levels of fat and lactose. Whey protein isolate powders have the most amount of protein per serving and literally zero carbs, lactose and fat. These are generally priced higher than concentrate. And finally, whey protein blends are the most popular of the whey protein powders. As the name suggests, these products combine whey protein isolate and concentrate to make a high quality product (with an awesome amino acid profile), at an affordable cost to the consumer.



You are teaching me to suck eggs. I'm a competitive body builder who appeared at the UKBFF Finals last month. I know my stuff.

That doesn't explain why isolate is better? Protein is protein once it is in your. All the biological value tells you is how quickly it can be absorbed. Your shake here is a blend that is 50% protein, 35% carbs, 15% others (eg fat/creatine etc). An isolate will not build you muscle any better than any other type.

thank u will order the cookies and cream and milk chocolate

Original Poster

Matt.Wild

Whey isolate is digested far quicker than WPC. This is good for post … Whey isolate is digested far quicker than WPC. This is good for post workout. However for a general all in one you need a blend. This means a blend of say isolate/egg albumin/casein. This means you get a quick intake (isolate), moderate speed (egg) and slow (casein). One mostly made of isolate is poor since it gets absorbed too quickly. Whats more, you can't claim its 89% isolate since the link provided says it is a proprietary blend - they don't tell you what the protein levels are and which protein provides them.As for for fats - they are needed! For anyone who trains, you need your fats. They are what surround your muscle. Without fat, you have no membrane and no membrane repair for when you work out. No fat = poor muscle membrane repair.Since its an all in one, the carbohydrate from the milk sugar (lactose) doesn't matter since it has carbs added in on top which are actually dextrose. Dextrose being the cheapest form of sugar available to add to supplements. If this was any good it would use vitargo or Waxy Maize Starch as its carb rather than cheap dextrose (at 79p/kilo wholesale).So going back to WPC and isolate, remind me how it is a better protein bar the fact it is absorbed quicker?




quote=Matt.Wild]
Ashamuk

u dont seem to know much for someone who works in the industry my friend, … u dont seem to know much for someone who works in the industry my friend, many of the supplements which have BIGGER tubs tend to be mixed heavily with whey concentrate and the more expensive supplements have none or less, i.e maximuscle. the reason why maximuscle is heavily priced is part to do with most of their range is made with mostly if not all whey isolate and costs more money to make as the fat and cholestereol is burnt away and therefore the protein intake from the shakes is 90% plus by weight, concentrate the protein by weight in the shake is from 29% to 89%, so the tub is bigger and seems better value but the nutritional protein abosrtion is far more with maximuscle and isolate ranges!

Whey isolate is digested far quicker than WPC. This is good for post workout. However for a general all in one you need a blend. This means a blend of say isolate/egg albumin/casein. This means you get a quick intake (isolate), moderate speed (egg) and slow (casein). One mostly made of isolate is poor since it gets absorbed too quickly. Whats more, you can't claim its 89% isolate since the link provided says it is a proprietary blend - they don't tell you what the protein levels are and which protein provides them.As for for fats - they are needed! For anyone who trains, you need your fats. They are what surround your muscle. Without fat, you have no membrane and no membrane repair for when you work out. No fat = poor muscle membrane repair.Since its an all in one, the carbohydrate from the milk sugar (lactose) doesn't matter since it has carbs added in on top which are actually dextrose. Dextrose being the cheapest form of sugar available to add to supplements. If this was any good it would use vitargo or Waxy Maize Starch as its carb rather than cheap dextrose (at 79p/kilo wholesale).So going back to WPC and isolate, remind me how it is a better protein bar the fact it is absorbed quicker?[/quote]

its better becuz the protein is purer and is higher in value.
you need to bear in mind that shakes are a supplement, if u have a good diet u will get the essential fatty acids and carbs u need from your meals.

i've certainly not had any problems gaining muscle and putting on size taking maximuscle and mainly isolate supplements, i speak from experience and maximuscle has been the best, i have used reflex and PHD and there is alot of sugar and concentrate in them but i opted for them as they were 'bigger tubs' and i assumed better value, but once i did my research and knew exactly what isolate and concentrate was and why certain products are expensive i.e maximuscle i switched to the premium range of cyclone and promax and progain extreme, moved from 9 and half stone to 14 and half stone of muscle mass in 3 years. and to add NO STEDS!

I dont want to get involved in this scintilating debate about protein, but my god ashamuk you are talking a load of codswallop. However, i too was once like you, but I learnt something quite simple a while back: eat good food, train hard, sleep well. Bio-availability/isolate this/casein that can all really go stuff themselves unless youre a competitive bodybuilder (like Matt), why would you care? go lift and eat properly.
Edited by: "fmushtaq" 17th Nov 2010

Original Poster

fmushtaq

I dont want to get involved in this scintilating debate about protein, … I dont want to get involved in this scintilating debate about protein, but my god ashamuk you are talking a load of codswallop. However, i too was once like you, but I learnt something quite simple a while back: eat good food, train hard, sleep well. Bio-availability/isolate this/casein that can all really go stuff themselves unless youre a competitive bodybuilder, why would you care? go lift and eat properly.



codswallop in what sense? and just to let u know, my avatar is a pic of me 4 months ago. i am not a skinny nerd who has just read books, iv been training for the last 4 - 5 years, i am not a pro builder but i know my stuff....

its better becuz the protein is purer and is higher in value.you need to … its better becuz the protein is purer and is higher in value.you need to bear in mind that shakes are a supplement, if u have a good diet u will get the essential fatty acids and carbs u need from your meals.



Explain how this builds muscle quicker please.

i've certainly not had any problems gaining muscle and putting on size … i've certainly not had any problems gaining muscle and putting on size taking maximuscle and mainly isolate supplements, i speak from experience and maximuscle has been the best, i have used reflex and PHD and there is alot of sugar and concentrate in them but i opted for them as they were 'bigger tubs' and i assumed better value, but once i did my research and knew exactly what isolate and concentrate was and why certain products are expensive i.e maximuscle i switched to the premium range of cyclone and promax and progain extreme, moved from 9 and half stone to 14 and half stone of muscle mass in 3 years. and to add NO STEDS!



This has PILES of sugar in it - its blimmin 35% sugar! Dextrose is sugar. Dextrose is actually better known as GLUCOSE. Glucose is blood sugar. This is why it absorbs quickly since it doesn't need changing into anything bar being digested in thro the stomach wall. This isn't a pure protein product - it is a blend.

Whats more as I've already pointed out this is proprietary blend of proteins so you cannot claim its just isolate it is not! It is a mix of proteins.

Once more and please answer the question, why is an isolate better than WPC other than the speed it is digested. Please tell me.

Ashamuk

codswallop in what sense? and just to let u know, my avatar is a pic of … codswallop in what sense? and just to let u know, my avatar is a pic of me 4 months ago. i am not a skinny nerd who has just read books, iv been training for the last 4 - 5 years, i am not a pro builder but i know my stuff....



Matt has just said picked up on these points. Id love to see your answers.

And I dont doubt that you are a 15 stone musclebound monster, however the fact that you are banging on about the differences in isolate/casein etc really shows where your priorities are. in my opinion it seems that you are spending a disproportionate time worrying about the little things. How much of an impact do you believe using maximuscle had had on you gaining 5 stones? You dont believe that you would have got the same effects with lets say phd or myprotein? If you are attributing even 10% of your gains to maximuscle, then id say you are being extremely deluded. However, its late for me and i need my sleep, so i dont really wish to carry this on. You have your opinion and i have mine, and if it works for you, then obviously carry on doing what you are doing, im logging off.

Whats more you forget the ATP processes. To gain muscle mass the transference of proteins and carbs to muscle mass is needed throughout the day. Therefore, regardless of the bio-availability of the protein, without carbs you will have a restricted intake of protein and much less muscle mass.

Original Poster

its better becuz the protein is purer and is higher in value.you need to … its better becuz the protein is purer and is higher in value.you need to bear in mind that shakes are a supplement, if u have a good diet u will get the essential fatty acids and carbs u need from your meals.

i've certainly not had any problems gaining muscle and putting on size … i've certainly not had any problems gaining muscle and putting on size taking maximuscle and mainly isolate supplements, i speak from experience and maximuscle has been the best, i have used reflex and PHD and there is alot of sugar and concentrate in them but i opted for them as they were 'bigger tubs' and i assumed better value, but once i did my research and knew exactly what isolate and concentrate was and why certain products are expensive i.e maximuscle i switched to the premium range of cyclone and promax and progain extreme, moved from 9 and half stone to 14 and half stone of muscle mass in 3 years. and to add NO STEDS!



if you want instant results, the fast acting WPI is better suited for pre- and post-workout supplements intake. The body absorbs WPI very quickly and makes it available to the muscles as required. Supplementing with WPI will mean you reach your goals faster

well im more confused now than i was before think i will stick to the complan lol

Original Poster

WPC is driving a 1.2 corsa across the motorway and WPI is driving a GOLF GTI 2 litre across the motorway. u pay more for the GOLF GTi - self explantory.

This is the difference, you say that isolate is not much better but i think you will find that it indeed is much better hence why going back to the original question on maximuscle is so expensive and obv the other part of it is due to advertising and branding

Original Poster

Matt.Wild

Whats more you forget the ATP processes. To gain muscle mass the … Whats more you forget the ATP processes. To gain muscle mass the transference of proteins and carbs to muscle mass is needed throughout the day. Therefore, regardless of the bio-availability of the protein, without carbs you will have a restricted intake of protein and much less muscle mass.



hence why having 5 - 6 meals through the day is the most important part of dieting and trainig and these supplements we are talking about plays only a small fraction of importance to your gains as a whole. but if u diet correctly and consume enough calories then WPI i.e maximsucle is what u need, if u dont have enough carb and fat intake in your diet then you are right, consuming PHD synergy which is half concentrate with the added fat content will not matter much, its all dependent on your diet as to what supplement u take

Ashamuk

if you want instant results, the fast acting WPI is better suited for … if you want instant results, the fast acting WPI is better suited for pre- and post-workout supplements intake. The body absorbs WPI very quickly and makes it available to the muscles as required. Supplementing with WPI will mean you reach your goals faster



No doubt isolate is better for post workout. Not disagreeing there. One step better would be BCAA's with the isolate post workout. Pre-workout a few oat cakes and some BCAA's would be best. However this is a blend as its an all in one, its designed to be taken throughout the day. Thus, there are better blends available since if as you are suggesting this is isolate, it will be absorbed too quickly. For the rest of the day you are using a whey that is far more expensive and less suited than other types such as a blend or real food.

WPI is out of place during the rest of the day. So you cannot say WPI will get you to your goals quicker, simply because its part of the jigsaw not all of it. Yes it helps rebuild muscle post workout very well, its ideal but you are deluded thinking its the be all and end all, it is not. Real food is!

When you cannot get real food a good blend is better as previously stated (with fast/medium/slow digesting proteins).

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Not that its going to have an effect, but, voted hot from me X)

Ashamuk

WPC is driving a 1.2 corsa across the motorway and WPI is driving a GOLF … WPC is driving a 1.2 corsa across the motorway and WPI is driving a GOLF GTI 2 litre across the motorway. u pay more for the GOLF GTi - self explantory. This is the difference, you say that isolate is not much better but i think you will find that it indeed is much better hence why going back to the original question on maximuscle is so expensive and obv the other part of it is due to advertising and branding



Erm, what?! Explain again in actual scientific reasoning why isolate is better? It digests quicker, yes. But once its in you, protein is protein.

Yes if you had pure isolate (which this is not) you may get 10g more protein in you a day over a blend (like Reflex Peptide Fusion) but even then 10g is pissing in the ocean in the grand schemes.

So again I ask, why is isolate better?

Original Poster

so in your opinion what are the best supplements to take? value and taste.

MRP for during the day, post and pre workout shakes?

maybe i am paying over the odds for maximuscle but i have used it as it has given me the most gains. what can i use instead?

Original Poster

and what do feel about L glutamine?

i use maximuscle promax during the day for timed release of protein through the day,
post and pre workout i use progain / cyclone depending on if its a bulking day or cutting day. ontop of the shake i wil add myprotein's creatine and a glutamine tab after workout as well.

I'd recommend a blend first thing in the morning on waking (for me at 6am befoe an hours cardio - I use CNP Pro Peptide).

An hour or so later after the cardio (around 7/7.30am) I have either 4 full eggs/4 egg whites OR another blend shake with porridge/flax seeds/blue berries.

At 11am I have 150g chicken OR 300g cottage cheese and 250g of mixed veg (broccoli or spinach with mixed veg).

At 2pm I have 150g chicken, 60g dry weight rice or pasta with veg as above. Also a low fat/sugar yoghurt with pre-biotics.

At 5pm I have the same as 11am (150g chicken and 250g veg).

Pre-WO I have 10g L-Glutamine, 5g BCAA and 3-4 oat cakes and a pre-workout pump product.
During I have SizeOn (contains 10g BCAA's)
Post-WO I have 10g L-Glutamine, 5g BCAA, 40g isolate, 40g vitargo

At 8.30pm I have 250g lean mince/fish/chicken/turkey/steak with a large sweet potato/pasta/rice with 250g veg.

Finally at 11pm I have 150g chicken with veg OR if feeling lazy a scoop of casein powder in water and then bed.

For what its worth, my diet is prepped by James Collier who trains many top end amateurbody builders such as Daz Ball and who is currently setting up the Body Building Grand Prix in March next year (19th to 21st March next year).

What is more, you can see me on gaspari.co.uk - look at "Team Gaspari" and i'm at the bottom of the list. The chap at the top (Neil Hill) trains Flex Lewis and Zack Khan, two IFBB Pro body builders. Needless to say I get my nutritional guidance from some of the best in the field.

HTH.
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