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Megathread - 2019 i-size Rotating/Swivel Child Car Seats - roundup thread
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Megathread - 2019 i-size Rotating/Swivel Child Car Seats - roundup thread

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Posted 21st Apr
Having just been through the process of buying a new car seat, I felt it was a proper minefield so thought I'd create a list to hopefully help others. Really could have done with something similar myself!

The below are all the latest 2019 models.
They are all rotating/swivelling.
They are all i-size.
They are all combination seats (group 0+1)
They are all suitable from birth up to the age of 4.
Most allow rear facing until the age of 4 (Maxi Cosi is only until 2).
They are listed in price order.

Cybex Sirona S
Amazon.
£242.96 (using 10% Amazon Baby wish list promo).
Selling at around £269 elsewhere.
HERE

Maxi Cosi Axissfix Plus
Lesters Nursery World (or John Lewis price match).
£269.10 (extra 10% discount is taken off at basket).
Selling at £299 elsewhere.
HERE

Joie i-Spin 360
Lesters Nursery World (or John Lewis price match).
£270 (extra 10% discount is taken off at basket).
Selling at £300 elsewhere.
HERE

gb Vaya i-size
Uber Kids
£280.25 (Use code EASTER5 for 5% discount).
Selling at £285/£295 elsewhere.
HERE

Britax Dualfix i-size
Baby and Co
£315 (Use code BUNNY10 for 10% discount).
Selling at £350 elsewhere.
HERE

Nuna Rebl Plus i-size
Uber Kids
£331.55 (Use code EASTER5 for 5% discount).
Selling at £350 elsewhere.
HERE


Recaro Zero.1 i-size
Uber Kids£379.05 (Use code EASTER5 for 5% discount).
Selling at £399 elsewhere.
HERE

Cybex Sirona Z
Bournemouth Baby Centre (or John Lewis price match).
£234 (seat) + £157 (base)
Selling for £260 elsewhere (seat only).
HERE & HERE


Recaro Zero.1 Elite i-size
Uber Kids
£474.05 (Use code EASTER5 for 5% discount).
Selling at £499 elsewhere.
HERE
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Whitedot6 m ago

The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is …The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is safer, that doesn't make the old seats unsafe. However it's in the manufacturer's interests to allow new parents to assume this is the case. The swivel thing is a matter of convenience only, and frankly not something we ever once even thought about when using car seats with our two children.


Absolutely correct. And in no way am I saying you must buy i-size, I'm just trying to help people out who may be in the same situation and are choosing i-size because they want to. I wasn't even looking at swivel seats in the first instance however the mrs says she's getting a bad back from putting our little'un in and out of our current seat, so you know, we got a swivel one.
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Thank you for this actually, we are needing to buy one imminently and this is very useful as we didn’t know where to start!
Catrina_13110 m ago

Thank you for this actually, we are needing to buy one imminently and this …Thank you for this actually, we are needing to buy one imminently and this is very useful as we didn’t know where to start!


We found watching YouTube videos for each model helped!

We discounted the Recaros and Sirona Z due to price. The Nuna we discounted as an earlier non i-size model failed some crash tests and the company ended up refunding people, and although this new model has fantastic reviews, we didn't have massive trust in the company. The Joie was discounted, possibly unfairly, as the i-size model is so new and therefore no reviews (also they're apparently made by Nuna). We didn't look at the gb Vaya to be honest. The Maxi Cosi was out because it's only rear facing until approximately 2 years old, not 4. Which left the Sirona S and the Britax Dualfix. We couldn't see much difference between them, they both have brilliant reviews, so given the £70+ price difference (and because we had some Amazon vouchers to use) we went with the Sirona S
The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is safer, that doesn't make the old seats unsafe. However it's in the manufacturer's interests to allow new parents to assume this is the case. The swivel thing is a matter of convenience only, and frankly not something we ever once even thought about when using car seats with our two children.
Whitedot6 m ago

The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is …The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is safer, that doesn't make the old seats unsafe. However it's in the manufacturer's interests to allow new parents to assume this is the case. The swivel thing is a matter of convenience only, and frankly not something we ever once even thought about when using car seats with our two children.


Absolutely correct. And in no way am I saying you must buy i-size, I'm just trying to help people out who may be in the same situation and are choosing i-size because they want to. I wasn't even looking at swivel seats in the first instance however the mrs says she's getting a bad back from putting our little'un in and out of our current seat, so you know, we got a swivel one.
You will quite often get the Joie 360 for sub £170, I recently paid £165 for mine from John Lewis if people are on the look out for one and can wait. Boots often have them on offer, baby event is on this week so usually discounted or a code for a spend going plus boots points.
xJayJayx893 h, 35 m ago

You will quite often get the Joie 360 for sub £170, I recently paid £165 f …You will quite often get the Joie 360 for sub £170, I recently paid £165 for mine from John Lewis if people are on the look out for one and can wait. Boots often have them on offer, baby event is on this week so usually discounted or a code for a spend going plus boots points.


To be clear for other people reading this thread, you don’t mean the new i-size version. The cheapest I’ve ever seen the new version is approx £240. You can get it for this price using a Bounty code at the moment: bounty.com/off…eat
Just from my pov... We have 2 seats joie 360 (previous model) and a basic mother care number in my car. Now wee one is a tad older my wife is looking to get rid of it as its too big and can't be switched around... It served a good purpose, 360 is not the be all and end all but its handy. You certainly don't need to spend 3/4 times the money thinking it will make them safer, and it's got a limited life span until your moving on to another phase!

That said, well done for the effort of making the post and putting up with negative comments!
Edited by: "gram333uk" 22nd Apr
We have a couple of the Britax Dual-Fix, swivel makes life *so* much easier to strap child in. Would def recommend.
Great post!

In general the swivel seats are more extensive BUT we bought one four years ago when we had our first child as:

1) Benchmark for safety is usually higher
2) Many allow you to keep your child rear facing for longer
3) *It makes it much much easier to get your kids in and out*
4) **It reduces the chance of you killing your back and going to the physio. And having the pain**
5) We found they tilted better, more range and better position.

Another seat might be £150 and a swivel £300 or £400.
But that's only 3-5 visits to the physio at £50 a pop.



Doing 2 trips per day, getting your kid in/out 4 times. Let's say 1200 times per year.
Additional cost averages out at be a few pence per use extra.
For us, definitely worth the convenience.
carseatadvice-uk.com/car…tml

Article may be of interest to people looking to understand why they pay more and the reasons for various independent testing.
Thanks for this. Sorry to read that you're having to defend posting this. It's definitely helpful for me as we have a Doona and eventually we will have to have a permanent car seat. The 360 ones appeal to us as to saveoour backs and you've given us a head start
Thanks for taking the time / effort to post @chpperz
X3R3S2 h, 31 m ago

http://www.carseatadvice-uk.com/car-seat-testing.htmlArticle may be of …http://www.carseatadvice-uk.com/car-seat-testing.htmlArticle may be of interest to people looking to understand why they pay more and the reasons for various independent testing.


Great link!

I also came across the ADAC 2018 crash test results which are quite helpful: adac.de/inf…spx

Will need translating to English.

Many of the car seats in this thread are on there, however some of the newer i-size seats are not.
Useful thread!

Personally didn’t use swivel seats but had 2 rear facing until age 4+
Can these be used as part of a buggy system?
Klunky2 h, 45 m ago

Can these be used as part of a buggy system?


Most of the swivel seats are fixed to the base and cannot therefore be used on a buggy. I know the Sirona Z has a separate base but I'm still not sure it can be used with a buggy. The Recaros can (as I understand) be used with a buggy as the inlay for infants is removable from the main seat
Good thread. We went for the britax as after trying a few of them in store we found it easier to rotate. But that may have just been us. Been using it for 6 months now and it's great. You may struggle to fit it into a small car mind.
Whitedot21st Apr

The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is …The 'old' regulations seats remain completely legal and whilst i-size is safer, that doesn't make the old seats unsafe. However it's in the manufacturer's interests to allow new parents to assume this is the case. The swivel thing is a matter of convenience only, and frankly not something we ever once even thought about when using car seats with our two children.


i-size seats unfortunately aren't necessarily safer - yes, i-size has introduced side impact testing, but lots of decent manufacturers already carried out their own tests for this alongside meeting the r44/04 regs previously. There are plenty of seats that are tested beyond the requirements for i-size; to keep your child as safe as possible look for a seat that has passed the Swedish Plus test.
Another worth considering is the Merlin 360.
Will_Leech23/04/2019 16:38

Another worth considering is the Merlin 360.


I did look at the Merlin, seems good value for money although some reviews say fabric wears quickly. I don't believe the Merlin is i-size though?
chpperz2 h, 19 m ago

I did look at the Merlin, seems good value for money although some reviews …I did look at the Merlin, seems good value for money although some reviews say fabric wears quickly. I don't believe the Merlin is i-size though?


Fabric is wearing fairly well for us, Its very easy to strip down too, and its been through 4 washes so far (little one is showing signs of travel sickness)
Edited by: "Will_Leech" 23rd Apr
After a little advice

I was considering this seat and would welcome thoughts


amazon.co.uk/Joi…c=1

We have a little one coming to stay with us who is on oxygen therefore a flatter recline and not putting undue pressure on his airways is obviously important.
Snikom45 m ago

After a little adviceI was considering this seat and would welcome …After a little adviceI was considering this seat and would welcome thoughtshttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Joie-i-Level-Group-Flat-Isofix/dp/B07D3LH9T8/ref=asc_df_B07D3LH9T8/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310689257189&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3612876863129053191&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044874&hvtargid=pla-697019196428&psc=1We have a little one coming to stay with us who is on oxygen therefore a flatter recline and not putting undue pressure on his airways is obviously important.


To start with, it's not a swivel seat so don't get it if that is what you're after. Also, it's a 0+ size so will only suit the child until approx. 12-15 months old (not knowing how old the child is now). Otherwise it looks decent, it's an isofix base which is handy, it meets the new i-size regulations and has passed the ADAC crash test with a rating of 'Good' (almost a 'Very Good' score). The ADAC result also lists it as an 'Exemplary seating position' although notes it does take up a fair amount of space in the car. There are a couple of reviews online which suggest the amount of recline is restricted by the shape of the cars seat of which it is mounted to, so it might be worthwhile going somewhere to actually try one in your car.

Buy from Mamas and Papas if you do get it, currently £169.99 and then an extra £10 or £15 (can't remember which) with newsletter signup.
Thank you cppperz

Reclining position is more important than swivel right now (although both and a reasonable price would be nice :))

He will grow out of it quickly (he is just over 4 months adjusted, so 6 months old but 2 months premature).

Child seats and breathing wasnt really something I had thought about before but then again my knowledge is 20 years out of date.
Has anyone seen any good prices on the Joie Spin 360 lately?
dcooper14716/05/2019 13:42

Has anyone seen any good prices on the Joie Spin 360 lately?


Best price for the i-Spin that I can find right now is £284.05 (using BCFB5 discount code) at Baby&Co: babyandco.com/car…oal

Edit: Found it for £270 at Samuel Johnston using 10% 'WELCOME10' discount code: samueljohnston.com/en/…spx

Best price for the non i-size Spin 360 seems to be £199 at either Kiddies Kingdom or Halfords.
Edited by: "chpperz" 16th May
chpperz16/05/2019 14:29

Best price for the i-Spin that I can find right now is £284.05 (using …Best price for the i-Spin that I can find right now is £284.05 (using BCFB5 discount code) at Baby&Co: https://www.babyandco.com/car-seats-and-accessories/car-seats-by-type/i-size-car-seats/joie-i-spin-360-car-seat-coalEdit: Found it for £270 at Samuel Johnston using 10% 'WELCOME10' discount code: https://www.samueljohnston.com/en/Joie-i-Spin-360/m-4335.aspxBest price for the non i-size Spin 360 seems to be £199 at either Kiddies Kingdom or Halfords.


Thanks chpperz, ordered from Halfords.
Dualfix is 199 on Amazon today
lk905724/05/2019 10:27

Dualfix is 199 on Amazon today


That's a fantastic price! Would you mind linking? I can only find it for £429.99
Sorry should have said it's the slightly older version, still a great price we have one already for 2 year old. Unsure how to link but if you search: Britax Römer DUALFIX Group 0+/1 it should come up!
lk905724/05/2019 10:59

Sorry should have said it's the slightly older version, still a great …Sorry should have said it's the slightly older version, still a great price we have one already for 2 year old. Unsure how to link but if you search: Britax Römer DUALFIX Group 0+/1 it should come up!


Still looks like a great price!

amazon.co.uk/Bri…c=1
chpperz24/05/2019 11:42

Still looks like a great …Still looks like a great price!https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britax-R%C3%B6mer-DUALFIX-Group-Birth-18kg/dp/B016224TSI/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=dualfix+romer&qid=1558694547&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1


Price has just dropped by another £30 to £170, I have cancelled original and reordered :-)
Can anyone help on the Cybex Base Z? The link above it now at the higher price of £184. Struggling to find it lower than that, anywhere else.
bigdave06926/05/2019 09:44

Can anyone help on the Cybex Base Z? The link above it now at the higher …Can anyone help on the Cybex Base Z? The link above it now at the higher price of £184. Struggling to find it lower than that, anywhere else.


£166.46 from babyandco using baby10 voucher code.

babyandco.com/car…BwE
chpperz26/05/2019 11:02

£166.46 from babyandco using baby10 voucher …£166.46 from babyandco using baby10 voucher code.https://www.babyandco.com/car-seats-and-accessories/car-seat-accessories/car-seat-bases/cybex-base-z-black?of_tid=MFRWG5B5GYTGMZLFMREWIPJRHATHA4TPMREWIPJSGQ2TONQ&adGroupId=23195604641&device=m&gclid=CjwKCAjw8qjnBRA-EiwAaNvhwPaf3zy1A6pzQEoeT0j1VUQ53tCsaUgUkKnUfg6X2m3M7ih5FZYkxhoCuW8QAvD_BwE


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