Merlin MALT-R 20 speed Road Bike with carbon forks 2013 - Full Tiagra groupset £499.99  TCB cashback at £16 & £29.99 delivery@ Merlin
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Merlin MALT-R 20 speed Road Bike with carbon forks 2013 - Full Tiagra groupset £499.99 TCB cashback at £16 & £29.99 delivery@ Merlin

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Merlin MALT-R 20 speed Road Bike with carbon forks 2013 - Full Tiagra groupset £499.99 @ Merlin

Good spec for the $

rame Specification:

7005 Aluminium Frame
Double butted tubing
Replaceable gear hanger
Carbon forks with aluminium steerer
Integral headset

Build Specification:

Full Shimano Tiagra 2 x 10 speed groupset
Compact chainset with hollowtech 11 bottom bracket
12-28 10 speed cassette
Deda RHM01 Bars
Deda Zero 1 Stem
Deda RS01 seatpost
San Marco SPID saddle
Carbotech K22 Wheels (Not as pictured)
Michelin Lithion 2 Kevlar bead tyres

Build time:

29 Comments

Surprised this isn't hot already, fantastic price for a bike with full Tiagra groupset. Wheels look a bit ropey but they always are at this price.

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konkywonky

Surprised this isn't hot already, fantastic price for a bike with full … Surprised this isn't hot already, fantastic price for a bike with full Tiagra groupset. Wheels look a bit ropey but they always are at this price.



Don't think I have ever seen a full Tiagra for anywhere near this price. Typically starting at £700. My BIL who is allegedly skint recently spent £950 on a Lapierre with full Tiagra. Has internal routing but that's the only difference and not worth £450. Idiot.

I thought the wheels weren't great but then at 1700 grams without skewers merlincycles.com/bik…tml are actually pretty light for entry level.

I'd get them to change the tyres for some Rubino Pros at £27.50 merlincycles.com/bik…tml

Sell the Michelins for £15- 20 and for just over £500 you have got a very respectable bike that can't be matched for spec & price.

Reading the reviews also says that they put the bike together properly unlike, say, Wheelies who must use actual monkeys!

I'd be all over this if I was in the market for a first road bike. My Spesh Allez was £650 3 years ago with full 2300 !

http://i.imgur.com/W2ELMGz.jpg

Not really a looker this particular bike but amazing price!

This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, but on the grounds that the photo doesn't show pedals, then does that mean that it doesn't actually have any supplied? If this is the case, then it isn't really a bike, but 'part of a bike'.

spock1958

This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, … This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, but on the grounds that the photo doesn't show pedals, then does that mean that it doesn't actually have any supplied? If this is the case, then it isn't really a bike, but 'part of a bike'.



It's normal for better bikes not to come with pedals so you can choose your own as it comes down to personal preference, some people ride flats, toe clips or clipless and there's a number of different clipless pedal types which are not compatible with each other.

John

spock1958

This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, … This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, but on the grounds that the photo doesn't show pedals, then does that mean that it doesn't actually have any supplied? If this is the case, then it isn't really a bike, but 'part of a bike'.



'Part of a bike'? So if I sell a house where the front door hasn't been installed but everything else is totally brand new and top spec I'm now selling 'part of a house'?

What a strange comment.

spock1958

This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, … This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, but on the grounds that the photo doesn't show pedals, then does that mean that it doesn't actually have any supplied? If this is the case, then it isn't really a bike, but 'part of a bike'.



You generally get a cheap pair of plastic pedals, the same as with any road bike. There are so many different types of pedal and everyone has their own preference so it would be silly to supply the bike with a pair.

spock1958

This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, … This might seem a silly question to somebody who is an expert on bikes, but on the grounds that the photo doesn't show pedals, then does that mean that it doesn't actually have any supplied? If this is the case, then it isn't really a bike, but 'part of a bike'.



no wonder your username is spock.......your logic does not compute....."part of a bike".....Can someone beam you up!

Groupset alone's £290 or so. Hot deal.

Not fussed on the looks, but smoking hot for the spec.

£484 after top cash 3.15%

Some great deals about at the moment, if £500 is your budget check out entry level felts at wiggle.

Bonacentral

Don't think I have ever seen a full Tiagra for anywhere near this price. … Don't think I have ever seen a full Tiagra for anywhere near this price. Typically starting at £700. My BIL who is allegedly skint recently spent £950 on a Lapierre with full Tiagra. Has internal routing but that's the only difference and not worth £450. Idiot.I thought the wheels weren't great but then at 1700 grams without skewers http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/wheels/road-wheels/factory-road-wheels/carbotech-k22-wheelset.html are actually pretty light for entry level.I'd get them to change the tyres for some Rubino Pros at £27.50 http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/tyres-tubes/road-tyres-tubes/vittoria-road-tyres/vittoria-rubino-pro-slick-clincher-tyres-pair.html Sell the Michelins for £15- 20 and for just over £500 you have got a very respectable bike that can't be matched for spec & price.Reading the reviews also says that they put the bike together properly unlike, say, Wheelies who must use actual monkeys!I'd be all over this if I was in the market for a first road bike. My Spesh Allez was £650 3 years ago with full 2300 !



The Triban 7 from Decathlon has been £599.99 since it came out that has Tiagra & comes with a lifetime warranty: decathlon.co.uk/tri…tml

But this Merlin is a cracking deal nonetheless and you're getting a lot of bike for your money. It's definitely a great first road bike and Merlin are one of the best for customer service from my past experiences (free upgrade on a crankset when they'd ran out of a the lower spec one). Heat added!

It's madness that so many will see a brand (myself included) and immediately want to pay over the odds compared to the lesser known brands. My heart says a Bianchi Sempre Pro for my next bike, but my head says I should opt for the likes of a Rose Xenon CRS-4400!

Johnmcl7

It's normal for better bikes not to come with pedals so you can choose … It's normal for better bikes not to come with pedals so you can choose your own as it comes down to personal preference, some people ride flats, toe clips or clipless and there's a number of different clipless pedal types which are not compatible with each other.John


Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy this (in theory anyway) and be disappointed, and have to lay out more money I was not expecting to.

To the other comments. Don't think that just because you know that this is normal, that everyone else should also know it. That apart, it does seem rather inaccurate to describe this bike as costing £500 when you still need to make a further essential purchase for it to function, so I stick with my original comment that it is indeed 'part of a bike' albeit the majority of one.
Edited by: "spock1958" 16th Nov 2013

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spock1958

Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy … Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy this (in theory anyway) and be disappointed, and have to lay out more money I was not expecting to.To the other comments. Don't think that just because you know that this is normal, that everyone else should also know it. That apart, it does seem rather inaccurate to describe this bike as costing £500 when you still need to make a further essential purchase for it to function, so I stick with my original comment that it is indeed 'part of a bike' albeit the majority of one.



Good to see the great and the wise out and about on HUKD. It will come with a pair of cheap plastic pedals.

You obviously have no intention of buying it so why even comment? Have you ever seen that character on Harry Enfield, "Only Me"! - well there's a lot of them on this site!

spock1958

Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy … Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy this (in theory anyway) and be disappointed, and have to lay out more money I was not expecting to.To the other comments. Don't think that just because you know that this is normal, that everyone else should also know it. That apart, it does seem rather inaccurate to describe this bike as costing £500 when you still need to make a further essential purchase for it to function, so I stick with my original comment that it is indeed 'part of a bike' albeit the majority of one.



My CD player didn't come with CDs and so doesn't play. Is that a part buy? This bike will come with cheap pedals however the majority of people spending money on these type of bikes will swap out for whatever suits them. If I brought this bike I would swap out the pedals from my old bike and so wouldn't require extra funds. So many examples of this post in real life like buying extras on cars. You can stick with your original statement all you like but you look a bit foolish now.

Edited by: "whorlow" 16th Nov 2013

spock1958

Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy … Thanks for the sensible reply. Not knowing this fact, I could easily buy this (in theory anyway) and be disappointed, and have to lay out more money I was not expecting to.To the other comments. Don't think that just because you know that this is normal, that everyone else should also know it. That apart, it does seem rather inaccurate to describe this bike as costing £500 when you still need to make a further essential purchase for it to function, so I stick with my original comment that it is indeed 'part of a bike' albeit the majority of one.



It's a bike not 'part of a bike', the bike shop may well chuck in some cheap pedals but if you have to add your own you can get cheap pedals for very little. Even a set of Shimano SPD M520's which are fairly decent SPD pedals and the ones I use on my road bike are only £13.

John
Edited by: "Johnmcl7" 16th Nov 2013

Not nit picking, but unless you live near their shop, off the M6, there is a £29.99 delivery charge (which still seems very reasonable to me). I am soooo tempted.

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FLOODLIGHTX

Not nit picking, but unless you live near their shop, off the M6, there … Not nit picking, but unless you live near their shop, off the M6, there is a £29.99 delivery charge (which still seems very reasonable to me). I am soooo tempted.



Never noticed that - am so used to bike shops offering "free delivery" - will add to title. What with the £16 cashback still makes it a good price all in.

People tend to get blinded by the groupsets on bikes, you should be more concerned with the frame and forks as all the other components can be upgraded relatively cheaply.
The chap whose BIL bought the Lapierre, the frame on that will be substantially superior to this one, £450 more could be arguable, but nevertheless, a lot better frame to start upgrading from. When he comes to sell, he'll get a lot more than someone trying to sell a secondhand Merlin own brand bike.
Don't get me wrong, Merlin have some good frames albeit I think they specialised in MTBs originally, road bikes are relatively new to their line up and not sure they are even made by them?

Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking for a starter road bike in the sub £300 range. I current have a Carrera Subway which I have been very happy with and have done over 1500 miles on this year

Having done a bit of research I think my options are;

Carrera Zelos Limited Edition Road Bike 2013 £269
halfords.com/web…710

Carrera TDF Road Bike 2011/2012 £299
halfords.com/web…710

Triban 3 Road Bike, White B'TWIN £299
decathlon.co.uk/tri…tml

or If I can find one - Triban 3 Red - Road Bike B'TWIN £299
decathlon.co.uk/tri…tml

I know people always say buy a good second hand one but how are you supposed to find one if you don't know what to look for? How can you tell if it has been mistreated?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I have some Christmas present money ready to spend!

I'm in the Derby Area if anyone wants to suggest anything on Gumtree / Ebay.

Cheers

Bazza71

People tend to get blinded by the groupsets on bikes, you should be more … People tend to get blinded by the groupsets on bikes, you should be more concerned with the frame and forks as all the other components can be upgraded relatively cheaply.The chap whose BIL bought the Lapierre, the frame on that will be substantially superior to this one, £450 more could be arguable, but nevertheless, a lot better frame to start upgrading from. When he comes to sell, he'll get a lot more than someone trying to sell a secondhand Merlin own brand bike.Don't get me wrong, Merlin have some good frames albeit I think they specialised in MTBs originally, road bikes are relatively new to their line up and not sure they are even made by them?



Rule #12 ;).

Although I do agree with what you're saying, it's not always the case.
The bike I have is a rebadged Dedacciai which Deda retailed for around three times as much as it cost me (with the exact same components!) and, whilst only the frame, forks & handle bars are the only stock things that remain on mine, the stock bike still sells second hand on fleabay for what my initial outlay was.
This is not as uncommon with the different brands as I first thought, although like I say you are right, whatever the brand it's always worth doing research into the type of aluminium/carbon/titanium or steel is used on the bike (as not all are equal).
An example of this would be the Planet X Pro carbon that comes with Ultegra groupset for under £1k (great 10 speed groupset, but the carbon is T700 whereas a more expensive carbon bike may consist of a higher modulus carbon & also have 11 speed).

johnner

Groupset alone's £290 or so. Hot deal.




yes but lets remember a robot can bang out frames like this in about fifteen minutes , painted in another hour or less
Edited by: "logohigh" 16th Nov 2013

steve_woodward

Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking … Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking for a starter road bike in the sub £300 range. I current have a Carrera Subway which I have been very happy with and have done over 1500 miles on this yearHaving done a bit of research I think my options are;Carrera Zelos Limited Edition Road Bike 2013 £269http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_888017_langId_-1_categoryId_165710Carrera TDF Road Bike 2011/2012 £299http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_810707_langId_-1_categoryId_165710Triban 3 Road Bike, White B'TWIN £299http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-3-a-id_8239800.htmlor If I can find one - Triban 3 Red - Road Bike B'TWIN £299http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-3-uk-id_8274036.htmlI know people always say buy a good second hand one but how are you supposed to find one if you don't know what to look for? How can you tell if it has been mistreated?Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I have some Christmas present money ready to spend!I'm in the Derby Area if anyone wants to suggest anything on Gumtree / Ebay.Cheers



You could try this merlincycles.com/bik…tml

full sora (the new version which is basically a 9 speed Tiagra now) , no carbon fork but you are going to have to sacrifice something at this price point.

if I was you i'd look at second hand bikes (on gumtree, eBay etc) for around the 300 price point

steve_woodward

Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking … Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking for a starter road bike in the sub £300 range. I current have a Carrera Subway which I have been very happy with and have done over 1500 miles on this yearHaving done a bit of research I think my options are;Carrera Zelos Limited Edition Road Bike 2013 £269http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_888017_langId_-1_categoryId_165710Carrera TDF Road Bike 2011/2012 £299http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_810707_langId_-1_categoryId_165710Triban 3 Road Bike, White B'TWIN £299http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-3-a-id_8239800.htmlor If I can find one - Triban 3 Red - Road Bike B'TWIN £299http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-3-uk-id_8274036.htmlI know people always say buy a good second hand one but how are you supposed to find one if you don't know what to look for? How can you tell if it has been mistreated?Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I have some Christmas present money ready to spend!I'm in the Derby Area if anyone wants to suggest anything on Gumtree / Ebay.Cheers



It's worth saving up the extra for, my missus bought the wiggle moser speed sora which was £488, but if this had been about I'd have told her to go for this, hell of a bargain.

[quote=steve_woodward]Whilst this looks great its a little out of my price range. I'm looking for a starter road bike in the sub £300 range. I current have a Carrera Subway which I have been very happy with and have done over 1500 miles on this year

Having done a bit of research I think my options are;

Carrera Zelos Limited Edition Road Bike 2013 £269
halfords.com/web…710

Carrera TDF Road Bike 2011/2012 £299
halfords.com/web…710

Triban 3 Road Bike, White B'TWIN £299
decathlon.co.uk/tri…tml

or If I can find one - Triban 3 Red - Road Bike B'TWIN £299
decathlon.co.uk/tri…tml

Hi, I was in the same situation 2 years ago and didn't want to spend more than £300 but wanted something a bit more up to the task, I bought this (or the equivalent in 2011) for a tad more than your budget and now looking to upgrade having done 4000 miles on it.
wiggle.co.uk/fel…ve/

I've owned this bike for 3 weeks now and its my 1st racing bike for years , going from a mtb to a racing bike was a shock at first , the ride felt harsh and the bars felt too narrow but after a few rides it feels realy comfy now and its realy quick off the mark , I wouldn't know I was doing 25mph if it wasn't for the speedo , its so effortless to ride and smooth, I did weigh the bike without pedals and it was 19.4 lbs and its the 50cm frame,
I paid 500 quid for mine and picked it up from the shop ,
as far as the pedals / no pedals argument goes , its pointless buying a bike with pedals on because as has been said before their a very personal thing ( as is a saddle tbh ) , thankfully the saddle feels very comfy after a few rides and I wont be changing it any time soon

well I've had one of these bikes for 12 months now and I must say its a cracking bike for the money , I have the 50cm frame and with pedals ( shimano m570 ) it weighs just 20.9 lbs , once you stick some 25c tires on it the comfort levels increase significantly , it took me a while to get used to race bikes ( ive ridden an mtb most of my life ) so the steerer tube was 60mm at the start (crazy I know ) but I naturaly dropped that over time to 30mm , the 80mm stem it came with was swapped for a 60mm version but now I'm happily back on the 80mm stem , this was supposed to be a temporary bike that I could experiment with to get used to riding a racing bike but now I love it and don't want to get rid of it , the wheels are great too , overall its a high spec bike at a very low price
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