Microsoft Surface 2 £359.00 - With £25 voucher for The Microsoft Store and £25 voucher for The App store
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Microsoft Surface 2 £359.00 - With £25 voucher for The Microsoft Store and £25 voucher for The App store

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Found 4th Dec 2013
So it's RRP Price but before you fly off the handle look at what else you get.
£25 voucher the Microsoft Store (So essentially £25 off the Type Keyboard which you'll need for this device)
£25 voucher for the App store so you can buy Halo and Asphalt 8
200 gig Skydrive for 2 years which is £80/per year
Best of Skype - Not sure how much this is and I've never seen a Skype wifi point but you get free calls to UK Mobiles and house numbers
Oh and let's not forget Office 2013 for free!

I pre-ordered my xbox one from the Microsoft store and the customer service was excellent as was the parcel tracking.

I've purchased this today and I'll wait for my voucher before buying the keyboard.

UPDATE: the code for the £25 off came straight away in an email so I bought the Type Cover 2 for £85

43 Comments

Windows 8 RT, can't do much on limited apps.

ro888

Windows 8 RT, can't do much on limited apps.



Its about the same as having an iPad, but cheaper price, more storage and micro SD support. Don't compare this to a laptop, compare this to other tablets at this price.

Think MS will need bigger incentives to get these moving. There's so much competition for Xmas sales out there and Microsoft will never be a sexy brand.

Problem is you can get the Asus Transformer Book T100 for £340 which includes a detachable keyboard and the £25 Windows Store voucher but more importantly comes with full blown Windows 8 rather than the RT version.

Reviewed here.

HotBot

Problem is you can get the Asus Transformer Book T100 for £340 which … Problem is you can get the Asus Transformer Book T100 for £340 which includes a detachable keyboard and the £25 Windows Store voucher but more importantly comes with full blown Windows 8 rather than the RT version.Reviewed here.



Where do you ge the £25 Windows store voucher with this. I got two from John Lewis and no voucher.

johnuni

Where do you ge the £25 Windows store voucher with this. I got two from … Where do you ge the £25 Windows store voucher with this. I got two from John Lewis and no voucher.


Currys for voucher and its cheaper at staples at moment. gonna be sub £300 soon, The local bus advertises it all over it. But none instore at currys, pc world. argos do not stock!!!

Indeed Staple has the T100 for £330 including the £25 voucher.

Is it worth spending £40 more and getting the lumia 2520?

Before I break the rules, am I allowed to link on here to my thread on FS on this site for a New Surface 2 + Type Cover?

SILFCFAN

Is it worth spending £40 more and getting the lumia 2520?



Depends if you want 3G/LTE capabilites.

Spence1115

Its about the same as having an iPad, but cheaper price, more storage and … Its about the same as having an iPad, but cheaper price, more storage and micro SD support. Don't compare this to a laptop, compare this to other tablets at this price.



This is simply untrue, the iPad has a huge amount of apps which the Windows store is lacking. These devices live and die by the apps that you can run on them.

Basically it pays to be aware what apps you can run on the RT, arguably it is actually better than the iPad for productivity because of the Microsoft office suite. However the sheer amount of photo/video/task/google etc apps on the iPad completely overshadows those ont he windows store.

The future of Windows RT is also uncertain, after Haswell chips improving the battery life of full windows tabs the only real advantage it has is price. This wont last forever. App makers know this as well as the big PC makers know it, its a risk to spend big creating apps for a platform that might not make it. Basically the choice in the app store is not great at the moment, and it might not get any better.

brilliant device swap one of these for a samsung galaxy tab
any day
purely for the power supply adapter which is discracefull on the tab 2 10.1

Mmmmm even though it's just out, the Surface is too pricey. There is no way it can compete with the iPad Air and it's just slightly cheaper. I reckon this needs to sit around the £250 pricemark to have a chance. It won't be long before we see these being sold dirt cheap similar to the Surface 1.

ro888

Windows 8 RT, can't do much on limited apps.



Like an iPad, if it wasn't running a OS named windows people wouldn't expect it to be the same as a normal portable OS.

Spence1115

Its about the same as having an iPad, but cheaper price, more storage and … Its about the same as having an iPad, but cheaper price, more storage and micro SD support. Don't compare this to a laptop, compare this to other tablets at this price.



I want to change but how is this the same as iPad when its basically obsolete? iPad you get apps that you can use and a constantly upgrading IOS no matter which iPad you have. Plus you get storage through dropbox, box.net, skydrive, google drive etc.

meglaman2000

This is simply untrue, the iPad has a huge amount of apps which the … This is simply untrue, the iPad has a huge amount of apps which the Windows store is lacking. These devices live and die by the apps that you can run on them. Basically it pays to be aware what apps you can run on the RT, arguably it is actually better than the iPad for productivity because of the Microsoft office suite. However the sheer amount of photo/video/task/google etc apps on the iPad completely overshadows those ont he windows store.The future of Windows RT is also uncertain, after Haswell chips improving the battery life of full windows tabs the only real advantage it has is price. This wont last forever. App makers know this as well as the big PC makers know it, its a risk to spend big creating apps for a platform that might not make it. Basically the choice in the app store is not great at the moment, and it might not get any better.



Depends - if you have the means to use RemoteFX then you can use most of the win32 apps that already exist over RDP with 3d acceleration.

Be loads of games on it more than likely of better quality than most mobile games very soon. (Xbox One indie games will more than likely be a one click type operation for the dev).

I am not sure but I think it is possible to use it as a decent performing 3rd (Or 2nd) screen for Windows 8.1.

unrandomsam

Depends - if you have the means to use RemoteFX then you can use most of … Depends - if you have the means to use RemoteFX then you can use most of the win32 apps that already exist over RDP with 3d acceleration.Be loads of games on it more than likely of better quality than most mobile games very soon. (Xbox One indie games will more than likely be a one click type operation for the dev).I am not sure but I think it is possible to use it as a decent performing 3rd (Or 2nd) screen for Windows 8.1.



It certainly has its uses, and as you said it "depends"

If you want a tablet to type up excel and word documents as you travel between locations for your job then this is the obvious choice over the iPad. If you want it to lounge about in the living room, play games and muck about on the iPad is the right choice.

Hopefully most people are informed enough to know all of this anyway, but at the moment buying an RT is a different buying choice to buying an iPad or Android.

HotBot

Indeed Staple has the T100 for £330 including the £25 voucher.



I'm waiting for £299 - hopefully that will happen when more baytrail celeron and pentium ultrabooks and convertibles appear.

meglaman2000

This is simply untrue, the iPad has a huge amount of apps which the … This is simply untrue, the iPad has a huge amount of apps which the Windows store is lacking. These devices live and die by the apps that you can run on them. Basically it pays to be aware what apps you can run on the RT, arguably it is actually better than the iPad for productivity because of the Microsoft office suite. However the sheer amount of photo/video/task/google etc apps on the iPad completely overshadows those ont he windows store.The future of Windows RT is also uncertain, after Haswell chips improving the battery life of full windows tabs the only real advantage it has is price. This wont last forever. App makers know this as well as the big PC makers know it, its a risk to spend big creating apps for a platform that might not make it. Basically the choice in the app store is not great at the moment, and it might not get any better.



I disagree. This argument isn't valid anymore. Go for quality not quantity. A two thirds of iPad / Android apps never get downloaded. If the windows store has the apps that you need then you're good. Also - traditional widows apps are really legacy from windows 8 onwards. New apps will be metro style and available in the store for windows 8 machines, RT or otherwise.

Original Poster

Just to respond to a few things.
Yes the Asus t100 is cheaper but it lacks a full HD screen which I know I find unbearable. They keyboard has diabolical reviews.
It does run full windows 8 that's true but RT does have advantages such as no virus' so you can turn off anti-virus to get the tablet running faster. Also don't forget you may have full windows but you have a 32gig eMMC so it will fill in a matter of seconds.

For those saying RT has no future, not true, RT will merge with Windows Phone in Spring 2015. Also don't forget the Microsoft tools lets developers convert x86 to ARM with no extra work hence why the apps on the App Store support both.

Nokia 2520 - yes it has 4G but it will set you back £550 with the keyboard and the keyboard has also had bad reviews. I was really torn between the two but I went for the Surface because of the full sized USB and all the deals Microsoft have on it now.

And a final point, people saying Apps aren't in the store, the Surface has a full browser in IE11 so you can just pin the websites to your screen, websites often have more features than apps (Facebook is a really good example of this, I think the IOS app only recently got the ability to unfriend people)

Original Poster

This guy does a really good job of showing off what a Surface 2 can really do. If you're looking to buy I'd check out this video.

youtube.com/wat…HLM

These come with office eg word and excel. The Asus one does not i gather so if you need those apps, this is quite a good system.

These come with office eg word and excel. The Asus one does not i gather so if you need those apps, this is quite a good system.

diamondpaul

Just to respond to a few things.Yes the Asus t100 is cheaper but it lacks … Just to respond to a few things.Yes the Asus t100 is cheaper but it lacks a full HD screen which I know I find unbearable. They keyboard has diabolical reviews.It does run full windows 8 that's true but RT does have advantages such as no virus' so you can turn off anti-virus to get the tablet running faster. Also don't forget you may have full windows but you have a 32gig eMMC so it will fill in a matter of seconds. For those saying RT has no future, not true, RT will merge with Windows Phone in Spring 2015. Also don't forget the Microsoft tools lets developers convert x86 to ARM with no extra work hence why the apps on the App Store support both. Nokia 2520 - yes it has 4G but it will set you back £550 with the keyboard and the keyboard has also had bad reviews. I was really torn between the two but I went for the Surface because of the full sized USB and all the deals Microsoft have on it now.And a final point, people saying Apps aren't in the store, the Surface has a full browser in IE11 so you can just pin the websites to your screen, websites often have more features than apps (Facebook is a really good example of this, I think the IOS app only recently got the ability to unfriend people)



its a good device but with the poor availability of Apps it won't suit most people; it's a great for a small section but I worry that this is insufficient to fund its costs...hence I believe it will be demised... it is the Betamax of the tablet platforms....

Devices like the T100 will again take away another section of potential users.

It might live on with the Windows phone but don't see how the code can be made portable and yet still be customised to each platform/device.

afroylnt

its a good device but with the poor availability of Apps it won't suit … its a good device but with the poor availability of Apps it won't suit most people; it's a great for a small section but I worry that this is insufficient to fund its costs...hence I believe it will be demised... it is the Betamax of the tablet platforms....Devices like the T100 will again take away another section of potential users.It might live on with the Windows phone but don't see how the code can be made portable and yet still be customised to each platform/device.



The app selection complaint is now rubbish, that was legit a year ago. The range of apps available is huge, RT has almost all major apps people want plus exclusives; if you do some research you will find it already has an excellent selection, including many of those apps running "better" on RT than it does on the android/iphone counterpart.

Windows RT and Phone are extremely similar, sharing an app between devices takes minimal effort from a developer. It doesn't have the fragmentation issue like Android, where apps only work for some random android version or specific phone brand.

Greyze

The app selection complaint is now rubbish, that was legit a year ago. … The app selection complaint is now rubbish, that was legit a year ago. The range of apps available is huge, RT has almost all major apps people want plus exclusives; if you do some research you will find it already has an excellent selection, including many of those apps running "better" on RT than it does on the android/iphone counterpart.Windows RT and Phone are extremely similar, sharing an app between devices takes minimal effort from a developer. It doesn't have the fragmentation issue like Android, where apps only work for some random android version or specific phone brand.



Disagree - I have chosen the Android Apps I use - they are not there under RT - why would a developer produce a version for Windows and Windows RT when devices such as the T100 are around ? is the code portable 100% and no extra testing effort required?

Its not worth my while selecting new Apps and migrating the information....a pointless activity..This the same for many other people; they have already chosen Apps on Android IOS etc.If the same apps were available under RT then they might consider moving. So sorry but the lack of specific Apps under Windows RT means its a gonner..in my view.

Please share details of these apps that you require on your android tab, which are missing on RT;

Migrating information may be wasteful activity, but then again theres many solutions to easily migrate to a new device, Windows already have a tool to migrate from a previous phone / tablet.
Besides I would look at it differently; perhaps there's a few random apps that the RT doesn't have yet, but do I really want to keep using these few apps and completely forget about all the other amazing benefits of an RT tab? (USB ports, peripheral access (EG, connects with any printer), comes with Office 2013 etc etc.

The windows development kit relates to Windows Phone, RT and W8 desktop. The app ecosystem is the same all over. So why develop for the desktop (T100) when apps are clearly valuable across multiple platforms.
And yes, the codebase is the same across all products so porting issues are negligible.

On top of that MS has a strict set of rules for how its OS can be deployed on hardware, EG:
For WP7+ A phone must have a CPU that runs at a minimum set speed, a set amount of RAM etc.
So all windows phone hardware is comparable or better, therefore no one has the problem of fragmentation; unlike android where theres 100s of phones/tabs that have app issues.

Original Poster

afroylnt

Disagree - I have chosen the Android Apps I use - they are not there … Disagree - I have chosen the Android Apps I use - they are not there under RT - why would a developer produce a version for Windows and Windows RT when devices such as the T100 are around ? is the code portable 100% and no extra testing effort required? Its not worth my while selecting new Apps and migrating the information....a pointless activity..This the same for many other people; they have already chosen Apps on Android IOS etc.If the same apps were available under RT then they might consider moving. So sorry but the lack of specific Apps under Windows RT means its a gonner..in my view.



Why would someone make an app with t100 around? That's a no brainer, the t100 is a touchscreen so you'd develop for touchscreens.

You're argument for why RT will die is foolish, it's like me saying I don't own an electric car therefore electric cars are doomed to fail. (this is your argument)

On a lighter side is it Candy Crush the app that's stopping you from switching?

A better name for this device would be the Microsoft Dodo. Despite its professed features and qualities it's destined to become next year's BB Playbook (currently about £65 for the 32gb version).

Probably not quite a dodo yet, but they certainly aren't going to sell at this price. Cold

Greyze

Please share details of these apps that you require on your android tab, … Please share details of these apps that you require on your android tab, which are missing on RT;Migrating information may be wasteful activity, but then again theres many solutions to easily migrate to a new device, Windows already have a tool to migrate from a previous phone / tablet.Besides I would look at it differently; perhaps there's a few random apps that the RT doesn't have yet, but do I really want to keep using these few apps and completely forget about all the other amazing benefits of an RT tab? (USB ports, peripheral access (EG, connects with any printer), comes with Office 2013 etc etc.The windows development kit relates to Windows Phone, RT and W8 desktop. The app ecosystem is the same all over. So why develop for the desktop (T100) when apps are clearly valuable across multiple platforms.And yes, the codebase is the same across all products so porting issues are negligible. On top of that MS has a strict set of rules for how its OS can be deployed on hardware, EG:For WP7+ A phone must have a CPU that runs at a minimum set speed, a set amount of RAM etc.So all windows phone hardware is comparable or better, therefore no one has the problem of fragmentation; unlike android where theres 100s of phones/tabs that have app issues.



"Migrating information may be wasteful activity" - surely this is key to many people (not all I agree but most) so they won't bother...therefore RT has a small market..etc

diamondpaul

Why would someone make an app with t100 around? That's a no brainer, the … Why would someone make an app with t100 around? That's a no brainer, the t100 is a touchscreen so you'd develop for touchscreens.You're argument for why RT will die is foolish, it's like me saying I don't own an electric car therefore electric cars are doomed to fail. (this is your argument)On a lighter side is it Candy Crush the app that's stopping you from switching?



You are mssing the point; let me simplify it for you - if I'm a develper why bother to produce a verison of my App for Windows RT as well as Windows when full Windows 8 devices are selling for the same price as Windows RT devices? Surely as a developer you would think about the market for Windows RT devices before decidng to spend time & money on supporting it for potentially few extra sales...?

b-folders is a key App for me; it holds many of my general notes etc. No Windows RT version.. time taken to migrate - who knows - there's no point with devices like the T100 around..
Edited by: "afroylnt" 5th Dec 2013

Original Poster

afroylnt

You are mssing the point; let me simplify it for you - if I'm a develper … You are mssing the point; let me simplify it for you - if I'm a develper why bother to produce a verison of my App for Windows RT as well as Windows when full Windows 8 devices are selling for the same price as Windows RT devices? Surely as a developer you would think about the market for Windows RT devices before decidng to spend time & money on supporting it for potentially few extra sales...?b-folders is a key App for me; it holds many of my general notes etc. No Windows RT version.. time taken to migrate - who knows - there's no point with devices like the T100 around..



Urg, the Windows 8 Developer tools converts from x86 to ARM with no extra coding... that's why. Hence why all the apps in the store are ARM and x86.

diamondpaul

Urg, the Windows 8 Developer tools converts from x86 to ARM with no extra … Urg, the Windows 8 Developer tools converts from x86 to ARM with no extra coding... that's why. Hence why all the apps in the store are ARM and x86.



Interesting in theory but what about extra testing effort from the developer? Auto conversaion tools usually have a few issues....

If its that easy why are'nt there more Apps? chicken and egg maybe - not enough RT devices sold to make it worth their (developers) while

Love my surface 2, does everythin I need it too. Very happy with it, great purchase and the build quality is excellent

I would have bought this but the Nokia 2520 is sexier, so I bought that instead. Still, have some heat.

johnuni

Where do you ge the £25 Windows store voucher with this. I got two from … Where do you ge the £25 Windows store voucher with this. I got two from John Lewis and no voucher.



I've got my Asus T100A from Staples and no sign of the voucher, so same question if anyone knows?

Needing some advice please, which is the better the option the Surface RT at £249 plus the £25 Microsoft Store voucher and £25 App Store voucher or this offer for the Surface 2? In effect you are getting the Type 2 cover and Surface RT for the price of the Surface 2.
Thanks for the advice. Oh and heat added.

Needing some advice please, which is the better the option the Surface RT at £249 plus the £25 Microsoft Store voucher and £25 App Store voucher or this offer for the Surface 2? In effect you are getting the Type 2 cover and Surface RT for the price of the Surface 2.
Thanks for the advice. Oh and heat added.

Needing some advice please, which is the better the option the Surface RT at £249 plus the £25 Microsoft Store voucher and £25 App Store voucher or this offer for the Surface 2? In effect you are getting the Type 2 cover and Surface RT for the price of the Surface 2.
Thanks for the advice. Oh and heat added.
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