Microsoft Surface 2 Save £110 at John Lewis - 64GB £329, 32GB £249
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Microsoft Surface 2 Save £110 at John Lewis - 64GB £329, 32GB £249

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Found 30th Aug 2014
John Lewis have reduced their Surface 2 range, undercutting the existing hot deal at Currys/PC World:

32GB £249 (save £110)
64GB £329 (save £110)

Comes with a free 2 year guarantee from John Lewis.

Comes with 200GB Onedrive for 2 years and unlimited Skype minutes and Skype wifi and Office including Outlook.

Good for someone that wants a tablet with a lot of functionality but not ready to splash out on a Surface Pro 3.

Offer ends 24th September 2014.
- rodman

Warranty reduced to 2 years only.
- Bully

84 Comments

Not great very limited in what it can do

Original Poster

thinkiwillhaveit

Not great very limited in what it can do



Limited compared to what? It's a tablet. It's only limitations are the same as any other tablet (except a full Windows one) - legacy programs.

Bought a Surface 2 and its a fantastic tablet, way more versatile than any other tablet on the market. Doesnt have the quantity of apps that iOS or Android provide but the proper internet browser and Office suite more than make up for that; Ipads and Galaxy devices can only dream of running the sites the Surface can, even with IE. The Surface Pro models are obviously better but they are really closer to laptops with the full Windows 8.1 Dont bother getting the 64gb version though, get a 64gb micro sd card on ebay for £20 and use that instead.

Original Poster

heeljames

Bought a Surface 2 and its a fantastic tablet, way more versatile than … Bought a Surface 2 and its a fantastic tablet, way more versatile than any other tablet on the market. Doesnt have the quantity of apps that iOS or Android provide but the proper internet browser and Office suite more than make up for that; Ipads and Galaxy devices can only dream of running the sites the Surface can, even with IE. The Surface Pro models are obviously better but they are really closer to laptops with the full Windows 8.1 Dont bother getting the 64gb version though, get a 64gb micro sd card on ebay for £20 and use that instead.



Great post.

People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows thing. VERY little I can't do on my Surface RT that I really need to do on a tablet anyway.

Jamie_M

Limited compared to what? It's a tablet. It's only limitations are the … Limited compared to what? It's a tablet. It's only limitations are the same as any other tablet (except a full Windows one) - legacy programs.


Indeed

I would prefer the app selection of Android or especially iOS, but you can just use the flash enabled browser for this.

I do have a soft spot for this tablet, but ultimately I refuse to buy any tablet as my Note III fills my needs there and my Macbook Pro is just wonderful and I'd likely still prefer to use that around the house like a tablet.

i prefer the os on this but the app variety and availability makes this a no go for me. good effort from microsoft and hope it catches up on the app front.

Jamie_M

Great post. People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows … Great post. People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows thing. VERY little I can't do on my Surface RT that I really need to do on a tablet anyway.

great post because he's agreeing with you?

The surface rt is good for some but not ideal for everyone. If you're in the market for one then this is a good deal.

Before this becomes a debate about how RT sucks let me just say that this is a nice capable device when you consider the price and all it offers.

My only gripe is that the app store truly is a mess though on both this and even the Pro. Having said that Internet Explorer is very capable so you never really need to use them.

If apps are important to you then Id suggest an Android tablet instead.

heeljames

Bought a Surface 2 and its a fantastic tablet, way more versatile than … Bought a Surface 2 and its a fantastic tablet, way more versatile than any other tablet on the market. Doesnt have the quantity of apps that iOS or Android provide but the proper internet browser and Office suite more than make up for that; Ipads and Galaxy devices can only dream of running the sites the Surface can, even with IE. The Surface Pro models are obviously better but they are really closer to laptops with the full Windows 8.1 Dont bother getting the 64gb version though, get a 64gb micro sd card on ebay for £20 and use that instead.



Thank you for your info. We bought this yesterday as my husband wanted a windows tablet. We originally went and looked at the Asus transformer tablet but this one had the slighter edge and build quality so much better. Fabulous price and with John lewis three year guarantee made it a fantastic deal.

chris2010uk

IndeedI would prefer the app selection of Android or especially iOS, but … IndeedI would prefer the app selection of Android or especially iOS, but you can just use the flash enabled browser for this. I do have a soft spot for this tablet, but ultimately I refuse to buy any tablet as my Note III fills my needs there and my Macbook Pro is just wonderful and I'd likely still prefer to use that around the house like a tablet.

llppp

Jamie_M

Limited compared to what? It's a tablet. It's only limitations are the … Limited compared to what? It's a tablet. It's only limitations are the same as any other tablet (except a full Windows one) - legacy programs.


Limited in the very basic sense that there are few applications that run under Windows RT compared to other tablet O/Ss.
If your needs are basic and specific then it many not be an issue at all but it is a consideration.

2 things have held sales of the Surface RT/Surface 2 back.

Firstly, the perceived lack of apps, although this is really not a big deal. The app store is growing (MS very recently began culling dodgy apps from the store so the quality overall should improve.) No doubt there is not the huge choice offered by IOS and Android but there are plenty of useful apps there and the numbers continue to grow.

Secondly, the constant negative comments from tech writers who should know better but are too lazy to understand that RT is evolving and improving so these products are increasing in usability as time passes. Constant references to people buying Surface RT's and then being horrified that they don't run full blown Windows programmes were and still are ridiculous. Few people spent £400-£500 + on the Original Surface RT without knowing what they were getting and if they did they had too much money to waste in the first place.

Surface 2 is a fantastically built product, far more solid and robust than any other tablet on the market. They are great for consumption and productivity provided they meet your requirements.

I'm hoping the next Surface will be lighter, same format as Surface Pro 3 with N Trig pen and a reasonable price.

Don't forget that RT is very, very unlikely to be affected by viruses and malware as compared with normal Windows or Android, for example.

Rubbish tablet

littld

Don't forget that RT is very, very unlikely to be affected by viruses and … Don't forget that RT is very, very unlikely to be affected by viruses and malware as compared with normal Windows or Android, for example.

Jamie_M

People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows thing. VERY … People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows thing. VERY little I can't do on my Surface RT that I really need to do on a tablet anyway.



With RT tablet you are stuck with IE = tons of ads. No alternatives available (no firefox).
Poor video playback support, no good .mkv player available (no VLC)

Web browsing and video playback is what I do with my tablet about ~100% of time.
Other thinks I do with my laptop / PC.

nitro228

Rubbish tablet



Todays most pointless post, backed up by absolutely nothing. Why did you even bother?

nitro228

Rubbish tablet



Cheap,lazy and worthless comment without some sort of explanation. Marketing the Surface RT was never going to be easy and Microsoft have made a right mess of it. For anyone prepared to look beyond the superficial, it is ideal for many folk who do not want/need full fat windows but want to do something more productive than the routine tablety stuff like surf the net and watch video. Add in in top notch build quality, a three year guarantee and a bargain price, this deal is hot.

ordered!

Mediocre selection of mobile apps, rather heavy at 660g, 208 ppi, atrocious 16:9 screen format. This is not worth this much money.
Edited by: "gnsks" 31st Aug 2014

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ceebs

Todays most pointless post, backed up by absolutely nothing. Why did you … Todays most pointless post, backed up by absolutely nothing. Why did you even bother?



There is a few of them on this post. I know I won't buy anything unless the majority of the reviews are favourable. Crikey I won't spend a tenner on something unless I look at reviews ha ha and I don't mean on here neither. Most reviews for this is very favourable plus the fact it's 92 quid and that's the cheapest I could find for the office home & student software which is already prestalled on this. Two years of sky drive storage 200gb and the three year guarantee. Show me a tablet that will offer all that for 249 quid.

I have one of these and an iPad, I much prefer the Surface. Far more versatile with micro SD, USB and HDMI out. The USB seems to work with any USB device I have tried including printers & cameras. On holiday I can backup photos taken during the day via USB so having 2 copies encase my SD card gets corrupt as this has happened to me before. Its also useful if you want to top up your phone battery.

I quite like the interface and find the gestures to navigate around just as easy as the iPad, I have noticed that Apple have "borrowed" a few Windows RT gestures. I also find the aspect ratio better for web browsing and watching videos. The keyboard is really useful and so is MS Office in such a portable device. I have come to the conclusion that most of the negative reviews are by journalists who know it is cool to bash Microsoft and will achieve more views by doing so as the reviews are so biased and skip over all the benefits.

Took one of these and an iPad mini on holiday. The iPad mini got used for Plants vs Zombies 2. This got used for everything else. The fact that it can be used for general tablet duties but then turn its hand to Word for daughter's homework is incredibly useful.

Original Poster

Russonf

great post because he's agreeing with you? The surface rt is good for … great post because he's agreeing with you? The surface rt is good for some but not ideal for everyone. If you're in the market for one then this is a good deal.



Sorry - yes, it's a bonus that he agrees with me. But the 'great post' comment was because he shared actual comments from an actual user who can honestly define the capability of the device rather than just bashing RT for it's 'limitations' which inevitably happens all over these posts - normally from people who have never touched one.

I know the App store needs a lot of work and if Apps is someone's primary focus, then they need to do a bit more research to see if this is the device for them. However with the full web browser, and the app store growing - it's worth checking if your specific app requirements can still be met by the Surface - which in many cases, it can.

Got one of these and the pro3. As a tablet it's amazing. The ipad doesn't run full OSX so why should the rt run full windows?

Microsoft a mistake was making rt look too much like full windows 8, hence the lack of understanding and confusion.

In all honesty, this is a remarkable extremely capable tablet. When I bought it (purely for office) I thought I'd need to keep my ipad, I was wrong and the ipad went on gumtree soon after.

I've been so impressed with the way the MS ecosystem hangs together and the quality of the products that bought the pro3 on launch day to replace my alienware laptop (which also went on gumtree)

I appreciate others may have differing points of view, but I thought it useful to add the experiences of someone who has actually bought one rather than recycling some of the garbage.

muckspreader1

This or the tab pro 12.2 and it's the tab pro it is.Cant get away with … This or the tab pro 12.2 and it's the tab pro it is.Cant get away with windows ugly and boring interface.Best be careful the windows police will be out in force paying us to love windows or else.Because it's cheap dosent mean it's good a bit like the BB playbook.



The tab pro 12.2 can be purchased at Surface 2 prices where?

Jamie_M

Great post. People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows … Great post. People get too caught up in the Windows RT vs full Windows thing. VERY little I can't do on my Surface RT that I really need to do on a tablet anyway.



can you use it for visio? not a deal breaker just wondering - I think Microsoft have got it right with surface 3 except the stupid pricing. this is tempting though
Edited by: "royals" 31st Aug 2014

Original Poster

royals

can you use it for visio? not a deal breaker just wondering - I think … can you use it for visio? not a deal breaker just wondering - I think Microsoft have got it right with surface 3 except the stupid pricing. this is tempting though



While Windows RT includes pre-installed Office apps, this stops with Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Onenote and Outlook - so no Visio unfortunately. You would need a Pro or a full Windows 8 tablet for that. Unless you run it remotely:

ms4u.info/201…tml

The reason this is cheap is because MS have basically ditched Windows RT. The hardware is very good (especially at this price point), but don't expect a lot of support for it in the future. But having said that it is probably quite good if you need a computer for your child to do school work, but don't have a lot of money to spend as it comes with a cut down version of office which is good enough for most tasks.
Edited by: "perfectmark" 31st Aug 2014

ceebs

2 things have held sales of the Surface RT/Surface 2 back.Firstly, the … 2 things have held sales of the Surface RT/Surface 2 back.Firstly, the perceived lack of apps, although this is really not a big deal. The app store is growing (MS very recently began culling dodgy apps from the store so the quality overall should improve.) No doubt there is not the huge choice offered by IOS and Android but there are plenty of useful apps there and the numbers continue to grow.Secondly, the constant negative comments from tech writers who should know better but are too lazy to understand that RT is evolving and improving so these products are increasing in usability as time passes. Constant references to people buying Surface RT's and then being horrified that they don't run full blown Windows programmes were and still are ridiculous. Few people spent £400-£500 + on the Original Surface RT without knowing what they were getting and if they did they had too much money to waste in the first place.Surface 2 is a fantastically built product, far more solid and robust than any other tablet on the market. They are great for consumption and productivity provided they meet your requirements.I'm hoping the next Surface will be lighter, same format as Surface Pro 3 with N Trig pen and a reasonable price.


Whilst I concur that this is a great product, you're wrong about people's misconception regarding RT. Microsoft has done a poor job getting across to people what RT is all about and how it is different from x86 Win 8 or WP8 for that matter.

How old do you have to be to use Windows 8?

I stopped using Fisher Price toys when I was 5, went on to Lego (not Duplo)

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nitro228

Rubbish tablet



Muppet

i want the surface pro 3 for a decent price to replace my nexus 7, latitude 10, ipad 4 and acer a510.

Original Poster

smr1

i want the surface pro 3 for a decent price to replace my nexus 7, … i want the surface pro 3 for a decent price to replace my nexus 7, latitude 10, ipad 4 and acer a510.



Define 'a decent price'? Best you'll get any time soon i'd think would be the i3 at Currys/PC World - £514 after £100 cashback and O2 Priority discounts.

perfectmark

The reason this is cheap is because MS have basically ditched Windows RT. … The reason this is cheap is because MS have basically ditched Windows RT. The hardware is very good (especially at this price point), but don't expect a lot of support for it in the future. But having said that it is probably quite good if you need a computer for your child to do school work, but don't have a lot of money to spend as it comes with a cut down version of office which is good enough for most tasks.



As far as I know they have not ditched RT but are going to merge it with their Windows Phone OS so both phone and tablet are on the same OS similar to Apple. I would bet the batteries in these tablets like any other would be dead before the support stops, what is the expected tablet life span 2-4 years

nitro228

Rubbish tablet



Rubbish post

Microsoft lost their way since XP. Windows Vista was just rubbish then came Windows 7 (they seem to getting back on track until) windows 8 was launched. Windows 8 is just garbage. Finally comes along Xbox One and the software aka dashboard/OS is ridiculous. In simple terms it's no a Windows Phone 8! It's like every where you select something on Xbox One it opens a separate app like.

Microsoft are meant to be king in terms of software division. Since XP they have flopped big time. They don't have control on what users want and what needs to be implemented. I am so glad I chose to stick with Mac Mini (Late 2009) and I am eligible for the Yosemite update. Best of all the software on Mac OS X just far superior compared to Windows. OS X everything is there and simple! Best of all it's FREE the OS!

Windows 9 will be coming soon. I won't be heading towards that at all. Microsoft have just lost plot on what their doing.

smr1

i want the surface pro 3 for a decent price to replace my nexus 7, … i want the surface pro 3 for a decent price to replace my nexus 7, latitude 10, ipad 4 and acer a510.



Just get a Mac Mini LOL
Simple

As someone who has owned a Surface RT for a year and just sold it for a DV8P..my advice is to be really sure you want a Surface RT before you splash out on one. If you want to "try before you buy" run Windows 8 on a PC and don't use the desktop. Just use apps from the store. You'll soon find out if this is for you or not

I found that mine was excellent as a portable office. long battery life, good screen, integrated stand, nice keyboard covers/cases, and getting full office including outlook was excellent. I took mine everywhere that I didn't need a full laptop. The full sized USB port was invaluable too.

That was where it's usage stopped though - so on the downside...

Obvious one is apps - the selection is *very* limited and although it gets better month on month, if you are used to Android, iOS or "full" windows 8, you are likely to be disappointed. Particularly when it comes to the more AAA games and other titles now appearing on iOS. RT is down there with Blackberry when developers are looking for which platforms to support.

Related but still key is video support. You are limited on what codecs you can use so pretty much anything other than bog standard WMV and MPEG codes are not supported. No ability to play files inside and MKV container etc etc. Be prepared to convert a lot of your video files to play on the RT if you want to use it for video playback.

VPN support is *very* limited, which is odd considering the clear business focus here. No Group Authentication with IPSEC (but this is an issue with Full windows 8 too to be fair), and no option to install 3rd party VPN clients unless you want to pay a lot of money. Even my iPad lets you do that!

Those are just the top points for me personally - I spent a year trying to make RT work for me and to justify it..but honestly for most people there are better options. For example the Asus T100 if you want a similar screen size and feature set - it's cheaper too. I can't see any reason why you would buy a Surface RT 2 over say a T100 at the moment other than the build quality.

On a related note - OP why do you reference a Surface Pro 3 in your OP? Thats not really relevant as its a different class of device with a whole different use case. The SPRT2 is a tablet, the SP3 is a laplet.

Edited by: "Spud211" 31st Aug 2014

A friend of mine loves his Surface RT but said he could not understand why it doesn't support Silverlight, it Microsoft's own technology! As a result there isn't a Sky Go app.
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