Microsoft Surface 3 - 10.8" - Atom x7 Z8700 - Windows 8.1 Pro - 4 GB RAM - 64 GB Storage - UK - with Surface 3 Type Cover (black) and Surface Pen (silver) £407.10 at Ballicom
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Microsoft Surface 3 - 10.8" - Atom x7 Z8700 - Windows 8.1 Pro - 4 GB RAM - 64 GB Storage - UK - with Surface 3 Type Cover (black) and Surface Pen (silver) £407.10 at Ballicom

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Found 8th Feb 2016
My son wanted a Surface Pro 3 to do some artwork on (Manga Studio/Photoshop/Mischief) as well as general MS office/Internet access but the prices are somewhat above his budget.

So instead we’ve been looking at the Surface 3 (i.e. not Pro). We wanted a minimum of 4Gb of RAM and a Type Cover as well as a Surface Pen. At the Microsoft Store this adds up to £653.98 (same at PC World) which is still blinking expensive.

Then I found a bundle at Ballicom which included the Atom X7 version of the Surface 3 with 4Gb RAM and 64 Gb Storage (eMMC rather than SSD), a Type Cover and a Surface Pen for £407 including delivery. This seemed too good to be true so I did some digging and found it’s an EDU bundle which is supposed to be for Education use only. The same bundle at Misco.co.uk is £584.20 (excluding delivery) so this is a decent saving. Includes free 7 day delivery.

I know this isn’t as powerful as a Surface Pro 3 but for its intended use it’s still very capable. Also this bundle only has 64 Gb of storage but it was more important to have 4Gb of RAM as that can’t be expanded and I’ll just add a 128 Gb Micro-SD card (£30 at Amazon).

And of course you can still get a free upgrade to Windows 10.

Review - youtube.com/wat…rPg
Drawing/Sketching on the Surface 3 - youtube.com/wat…Obc
Real world use - youtube.com/wat…lZ0

Here’s the blurb from the description if anyone’s interested -

A very thin and super-light Surface
The 622g Surface 3 is just the right size to slip under your arm or in your purse and take anywhere.

Power through your day
Surface 3 has up to 10 hours of battery life for video playback so you can work, browse, play, or watch all day long.

Work the way you want
With signature 3-position Kickstand, Surface 3 lets you binge watch your favourite shows hands-free.

Mighty powerful
Surface 3 has a Quad-Core Intel Atom x7 processor, so it's fast, responsive and won't slow you down when you're on the go.

Desktop software
Surface 3 runs all your Windows desktop software like Microsoft Office, iTunes, and Photoshop Essentials.

Full-size USB 3.0
It is easy to connect all of your accessories with a full-size USB 3.0.
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I could be wrong but surface 3 64GB only has 2GB ram, i know as i had to get the 128GB as i wanted 4GB ram, unless they have been inside it and added more, however like i say... i could be wrong.
bigdarlodave

I could be wrong but surface 3 64GB only has 2GB ram, i know as i had to … I could be wrong but surface 3 64GB only has 2GB ram, i know as i had to get the 128GB as i wanted 4GB ram, unless they have been inside it and added more, however like i say... i could be wrong.



​yep, you are. my surface 3 is the 4gb/128GB model

there are two different variants.
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bigdarlodave

I could be wrong but surface 3 64GB only has 2GB ram, i know as i had to … I could be wrong but surface 3 64GB only has 2GB ram, i know as i had to get the 128GB as i wanted 4GB ram, unless they have been inside it and added more, however like i say... i could be wrong.



​Yes normally it does but this is a special Education only bundle that Microsoft do for Schools and Colleges.
I use illustrator cc on mine, 4GB 128GB version, it is really impressive for the same price as an iPad, which is comparatively pants!
CharlieBravo

I use illustrator cc on mine, 4GB 128GB version, it is really impressive … I use illustrator cc on mine, 4GB 128GB version, it is really impressive for the same price as an iPad, which is comparatively pants!


Agree, I have the Surface 3 128gb with keyboard and pen and its a brilliant device, in my opinion well worth its RRP. My wife still has an iPad mini and I had an iPad but the Surface makes them both look like a basic toy once you realise what you can do with it. Wouldn't be without mine now.
Edited by: "stuellis" 8th Feb 2016
removed - can't count. SW
Edited by: "simplewanderer" 8th Feb 2016
What's the difference between the surface 3 and the surface pro 3?

Cheers
solid

What's the difference between the surface 3 and the surface pro 3?Cheers


google.co.uk/sea…0j7
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simplewanderer

If you buy 2 - you save an extra £70 each


I think you're looking at the ex VAT price. You save about 20p each for 2.
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solid

What's the difference between the surface 3 and the surface pro 3?Cheers


Here's a quick comparison video - youtube.com/wat…OPU
simplewanderer

If you buy 2 - you save an extra £70 each



No, the price quoted for 2 is ex VAT. You only save 24p each
Sorry, misread
an interesting commentary on the performance of this particular Surface 3 with it's high-end Atom processor:
reddit.com/r/S…at/

Can anybody tell me what the wifi hardware is like on this device. The only device in my house that can max out my virgin media 150mb connection is the wifes ipad. Thanks
Picked the 4gb/128gb version up second Hand to replace an sp1 I have been very impressed with it thought I would notice the processor dip but barely pick up on it and the battery life is good. The charge time is shocking though!
Fantastic Price!
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dallaker

Can anybody tell me what the wifi hardware is like on this device. The … Can anybody tell me what the wifi hardware is like on this device. The only device in my house that can max out my virgin media 150mb connection is the wifes ipad. Thanks


It has 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac. 802.11ac can theoretically do up to 1.3 Gbps which is 166 Mbps so it should be able to max out your Virgin Media connection. In reality it will depend on what other devices are connected and interference etc.
Edited by: "phishwak" 8th Feb 2016
Badpoet

Picked the 4gb/128gb version up second Hand to replace an sp1 I have been … Picked the 4gb/128gb version up second Hand to replace an sp1 I have been very impressed with it thought I would notice the processor dip but barely pick up on it and the battery life is good. The charge time is shocking though!



Apply the new firmware update from 04/02/16 - Battery charging is much faster - mine normally takes hours to charge while using it - it's charged from 40% to 90% in just over 90 minutes while using it.
A very very useable little tablet/PC LOVE mine, it isnt super fast but its great for most things
For anyone after a similar specification but a little more power, you can often get Dell Venue 11 Pros from the Dell outlet for this price or lower, I picked up Core M 5Y11 (similar performance to an i5 supposedly - I run Visual Studio, SQL Server, Photoshop with no lag), 256GB internal storage, 8GB RAM and 4G card slot on top of the standard 1080P IPS screen, all for less than £400.

It's heavier, not as desirable, but for the money is hard to beat, if, like me, the Surface devices are too far out of your league.

mike
phishwak

It has 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac. 802.11ac can theoretically do up to 1.3 Gbps … It has 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac. 802.11ac can theoretically do up to 1.3 Gbps which is 166 Mbps so it should be able to max out your Virgin Media connection. In reality it will depend on what other devices are connected and interference etc.


1.3Gbps is not the same as 166 Mbps, you might be getting mixed up with MBps.
Either way wifi maxes out at 150Mbit/s (18MB/s) on the Virgin box and the Surface is plenty capable of handling that and if you want faster it'll take an Ethernet to USB3 adapter or the docking station etc to get gigabit Ethernet.
Thanks OP. Been wanting one of these.

I have a dell venue11 (atom/ 2gb) which works very welll but quite heavy with the keyboard.

Thanks again! (From my right shoulder)
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unuspromulti

1.3Gbps is not the same as 166 Mbps, you might be getting mixed up with … 1.3Gbps is not the same as 166 Mbps, you might be getting mixed up with MBps.Either way wifi maxes out at 150Mbit/s (18MB/s) on the Virgin box and the Surface is plenty capable of handling that and if you want faster it'll take an Ethernet to USB3 adapter or the docking station etc to get gigabit Ethernet.


Yes, its 166 MBps - just a typo.
I bet win 10 slows it down. nothing is as fast as win 8.1!
is this open to all or do I need a school email etc, see its an education bundle?
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CLEPAU676

is this open to all or do I need a school email etc, see its an education … is this open to all or do I need a school email etc, see its an education bundle?


I just ordered it as normal - no questions, no school email.
phishwak

Yes, its 166 MBps - just a typo.


Yeah but there's no way anyone's getting those speeds over wifi or the internet for that matter, wireless n is only good for 150Mbps before you get into separate antennas etc which basic consumer grade kit can't handle.
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unuspromulti

Yeah but there's no way anyone's getting those speeds over wifi or the … Yeah but there's no way anyone's getting those speeds over wifi or the internet for that matter, wireless n is only good for 150Mbps before you get into separate antennas etc which basic consumer grade kit can't handle.


Hence the "theoretically" and "in reality it will depend...". I think we're both agreeing that it will be plenty fast enough to deal with home broadband over a wireless connection.
Anyone wanna get me this pleass
LiamSmith78

​yep, you are. my surface 3 is the 4gb/128GB model :)there are two d … ​yep, you are. my surface 3 is the 4gb/128GB model :)there are two different variants.


I don't see how your comment states I am wrong when I have said the 128 gab has 4gb of ram and so does yours
According to this page on the Microsoft website , it states the education one only comes with 2GB it is just the price that is lowered microsoftstore.com/sto…700, Ballicom may be a mis print.
onlineo

I bet win 10 slows it down. nothing is as fast as win 8.1!


I always found vista to be the fastest. You are right about win 10, a guy at work has it and says it is really slow.
Bendown

I always found vista to be the fastest. You are right about win 10, a guy … I always found vista to be the fastest. You are right about win 10, a guy at work has it and says it is really slow.



It's fine :-s. On both my PC which is atleast 5 year old (2500k/8gb ram/ssd). And sp3 4gb/ssd. I suggest he gets an ssd
Brilliant deal for the money. The Surface design and hardware is really classy. One of few devices that will be a pleasure to own long after you have forgotten how much you've paid for it. I'd grab one myself if I was in the market for a pc\tablet hybrid. Worth confirming that it is a 4gb ram variant first though. 2gb is perfectly OK but 4gb ram will provide better experience all round, especially when multi tasking.
sparrky2004

Apply the new firmware update from 04/02/16 - Battery charging is much … Apply the new firmware update from 04/02/16 - Battery charging is much faster - mine normally takes hours to charge while using it - it's charged from 40% to 90% in just over 90 minutes while using it.



Thanks for that - will check that out when I get home tonight its been the only annoyance with it so far
bigdarlodave

According to this page on the Microsoft website , it states the education … According to this page on the Microsoft website , it states the education one only comes with 2GB it is just the price that is lowered http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/Surface-3/productID.316873700, Ballicom may be a mis print.



That's not the education one, that's just a student price on retail one. The education one is a special unit only available for schools, colleges and universities to buy normally. The education ones start at 32GB Flash 2GB RAM and go to 64GB Flash 4GB RAM
sandrinehakizimana

Anyone wanna get me this pleass



Yes sure.
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sionwhughes

That's not the education one, that's just a student price on retail one. … That's not the education one, that's just a student price on retail one. The education one is a special unit only available for schools, colleges and universities to buy normally. The education ones start at 32GB Flash 2GB RAM and go to 64GB Flash 4GB RAM


Yes I was worried that it might be a misprint as well but if you look for the product number that's on the Ballicom page - NR5-00003, you find other sites have the same 4Gb RAM and 64 Gb storage specified in their description.
Edited by: "phishwak" 9th Feb 2016
Mine is preparing for dispatch.
is this screen size good enough to work on daily for typing essays etc? or shall i go for a normal laptop?
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