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Microsoft Surface RT Tablet, 10.6", Wi-Fi, 32GB with 3 FREE cables plus 2 year guarantee £279.00 @ John Lewis
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Microsoft Surface RT Tablet, 10.6", Wi-Fi, 32GB with 3 FREE cables plus 2 year guarantee £279.00 @ John Lewis
Posted 4th Aug 2013

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Looking for a new tablet and saw some of the Surface deals already posted here.

Looked on John Lewis site and saw this deal for the Microsoft Surface RT Tablet 32GB which also includes Office Home & Student 2013 RT2 and 3 cables:

- Microsoft Surface RT 24W Power Supply

- Microsoft Surface RT VGA Adapter Cable

- Microsoft Surface RT HD Digital AV Adapter

Value £104.85

Also don't forget John Lewis 2 year guarantee included
All this for £279.00

In addition you can also add the touch keyboard and upgrade to 64Mb for a total of £439.00
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Getting there. I'd wait for gen2 (if RT survives that long) personally but if your after an RT device now the price is getting better. I do wonder why most people would want the vga adapter AND a digital one.
Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the Zune. Virtually nobody is buying this or developing applications for it and it doesn't run a full version of Windows. Buy Samsung or Nexus android or iPad unless you have more money than sense and are totally uncool, in which case this is a must buy. Stacked to the ceiling in distributors' warehouses worldwide but rare as a tiger in the wild.
Edited by: "musical" 4th Aug 2013
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capriboycraig

Getting there. I'd wait for gen2 (if RT survives that long) personally … Getting there. I'd wait for gen2 (if RT survives that long) personally but if your after an RT device now the price is getting better. I do wonder why most people would want the vga adapter AND a digital one.




Because some monitors are vga and some hdmi, therefore with both cables you can connect to your monitor and your mates and you work etc etc...:p
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musical

Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the … Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the Zune. Virtually nobody is buying this or developing applications for it and it doesn't run a full version of Windows. Buy Samsung or Nexus android or iPad unless you have more money than sense and are totally uncool.



Samsung or Nexus android or iPad ? ? ?

None of them run full windows either.......

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rpope

Because some monitors are vga and some hdmi, therefore with both cables … Because some monitors are vga and some hdmi, therefore with both cables you can connect to your monitor and your mates and you work etc etc...:p



Or because M$ are sat on a load of accessories for these as well Only Vga monitor i've got is in a mame project and that ain't never gonna be run of a Surface RT at any price.
capriboycraig

Getting there. I'd wait for gen2 (if RT survives that long) personally … Getting there. I'd wait for gen2 (if RT survives that long) personally but if your after an RT device now the price is getting better. I do wonder why most people would want the vga adapter AND a digital one.



Most older projectors require VGA, so I guess this could be a reason to have both. I did consider one for my iPad for this reason.
A 24w power supply seems a bit steep though when you consider the iPad runs off 10w. I'd more associate 24w with a laptop.
BTW nice find and good price, for those wanting to get one.
musical

Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the … Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the Zune. Virtually nobody is buying this or developing applications for it and it doesn't run a full version of Windows. Buy Samsung or Nexus android or iPad unless you have more money than sense and are totally uncool, in which case this is a must buy. Stacked to the ceiling in distributors' warehouses worldwide but rare as a tiger in the wild.



What has cool or uncool got to do with buying a tablet?? the other reason make sense but if your buying a device just to be cool then that is very sad indeed..
On another note, I think they are now the price they should have been released at and should have now dropped another £100 off this price... they might have sold some then.
Got to remember this comes with Office though, which none of the other have. Have one, it's not bad and feels exactly like windows 8.
I thought these ran Windows 8? Is that not "full Windows"
No, RT is like an iPad, limited apps and you can only install what is in the app store. Surface pro has full windows.
Southwell

No, RT is like an iPad, limited apps and you can only install what is in … No, RT is like an iPad, limited apps and you can only install what is in the app store. Surface pro has full windows.



Hahahaha, ipad, limited apps. Hahahaha.

Thank you, I needed cheering up.
Southwell

No, RT is like an iPad, limited apps and you can only install what is in … No, RT is like an iPad, limited apps and you can only install what is in the app store. Surface pro has full windows.



Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

Windows RT is nothing like an iPad. iPad = best selling tablet ever - basically started this whole tablet thing (search for "tablets before and after ipad"). The iPad has a massive back catalogue of apps. The majority of the crap on the Windows store are just spam (search for "Facebook" and you'll see what I mean).
Check you out. Cheers for the Sunday morning vomit inducing display of fanboyism, I needed something to help process last nights beers.
Depending on what you want to do with these things - they might suit your needs perfectly. I have a full Windows 8 Pro tablet and you know what? 99% of my time on the tablet is spent in Internet Explorer and Office (mainly OneNote). I could have saved a great deal and just bought a cheap Surface RT.

If it meets your needs, this could be a great buy.

If you want tons of iPad style apps then buy an iPad - obviously. But if you want proper Microsoft Office - this is great. And it will get better when the FREE upgrade to Windows 8.1 comes out.
Heat added, tempted by personally waiting for the next version of the pro, if you want a more productive experience buy this over ipad/android, if you want to play games and watch videos sure iPad is the winner, android if your cheap and love google! Since most people seem to be hating in ms products figures id hate on the others
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On another note, I think they are now the price they should have been … On another note, I think they are now the price they should have been released at and should have now dropped another £100 off this price... they might have sold some then.



I agree, I was thinking of getting one of these and was expecting a £299 price point at launch but at £399 (same price as the iPad - the best tablet available) no wonder they couldn't sell any. These should be no more than £200 now.
bma1445

Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an … Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an iPad. iPad = best selling tablet ever - basically started this whole tablet thing (search for "tablets before and after ipad"). The iPad has a massive back catalogue of apps. The majority of the crap on the Windows store are just spam (search for "Facebook" and you'll see what I mean).



Ahhh. Stunning display of blind donkeyism. You assume that because Apple set a precedent that the revolution they started was necessary or genuinely beneficial.

I see it this way: stacks of idiots rushed to jump a gun that Apple fired prematurely in natural curve of technological progression and bought an over-priced lump of entertainment gadgetry mis-sold as being functionally useful and paradigm-defining in an enterprise capacity. More savvy manufacturers waited to get a product right before release, rather than rush to market. Apple NEVER caught up on matching functionality with portability, else they'd have deployed an iPadPro running full OSX rather than a glorified 9.7inch PSP running Apple's ecosystem. Even now the most anticipated and lauded software on iPad is made by Adobe, Google and Microsoft. Over a year later Apple Maps stands as a monument to sheer idiocy.

So the illusion is that Apple set the standard of tablet computers. Not strictly true. Compaq. Windows XP. Touchscreen pen input with foldaway keyboard. Highly desirable at the time and affordable only to enterprise. But there's an inconvenient truth. Having farted out the iPad and the miniscule 'paradigm setting' iPhone (cough cough Palm, Windows Mobile) it took other tech companies to take their time, consider and research, and discover that 3.5 inch smartphones with rounded backs and 9.7inch 4:3 ratio heavy tablets were the public's least favourite form factors. Apple laughed at 7 inch tablets, widescreen ratios, digital stylus input, sd card slots, replaceable batteries in smartphones, and the place for full desktop OS's in tablet form. Apple birthed an upstart. Since then Samsung, Microsoft, Dell, HTC and others have raised mature and intelligent offspring.

Now... Microsoft produced an excellent response to the demand for tablet full-OS computing with Surface Pro, and followed Apple's unjustifiably high price tags. Then, I agree, they produced the pitiable poor cousin, Surface RT. BUT. The RT has 'failed' entirely because of the standard set by iPad. First, it exists because of everything iPad isn't... it tries to be a modern, effective, attractive, capable enterprise compatible, functional device running MSOffice. Unfortunately it also tries to follow the idiotic standard of the iPad... irredeemably simple, locked ecosystem, dumbed down. End result: too 'Microsoft' to be 'Apple' and too iOS to be Windows.

No man's land. Irrelevant because of its iPad-esque limitations. While demand for an affordable Surface Pro grows, to flourish into a new market of tablet computing for intelligent and discerning users.

I have an iPad. Its years since an interesting and irresistible app came on the market. And still more people use Kindle apps than iBook.
I have said it before, I will say it again - Windows RT is not going to last. And there are others, including the Chairman of Asus who are saying the same thing. If you want a Windows Tablet, get a Pro one, unless you are absolutely sure that Office is all you are ever going to need.
P.S. - Asus was one of the big backers of Windows RT when it launched, so they know what they are talking about
Edited by: "arbitrabbit" 4th Aug 2013
SteadVex

Heat added, tempted by personally waiting for the next version of the … Heat added, tempted by personally waiting for the next version of the pro, if you want a more productive experience buy this over ipad/android, if you want to play games and watch videos sure iPad is the winner, android if your cheap and love google! Since most people seem to be hating in ms products figures id hate on the others



Disagree. If you want to watch videos supplied by Apple, iPad is the device. If you want to spend hours converting videos for iPad, iPad is the device.

If you want to watch any and every video acquired however you like, you'd be a fool to have anything other than an Android tablet... and with a stunning range of form factors, features and prices its a no-brainer. VHS vs Betamax.
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It's a decent tablet for the price, but it's hard to recommend, especially when you can get other tablets for less. I think Microsoft made a big mistake by making a 3rd OS just for tablets, obviously we have proper Windows 8 for laptops/desktops and Surface pros, and then there's Windows Phone 8 for mobiles, we then we have this 3rd weird OS Windows RT. Looking at the comments above, I'm not surprised this flopped, there's still a mass chunk of people who don't know the difference between Windows 8 and RT, and only Microsoft are to blame for this confusion.

They should have followed Apple and Google, Apple make OSX for their desktops and laptops, and iOS for phones and tablets, Google make Chrome OS for their Chromebooks and Android for everything else, there's no odd halfway 3rd option.

There's not many apps for Windows RT, it's fine for the basics, but then if that's all you need then just get a cheaper Android tablet and save some money.
£279! the next generation Nexus will be £100 less than that!
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Disagree. If you want to watch videos supplied by Apple, iPad is the … Disagree. If you want to watch videos supplied by Apple, iPad is the device. If you want to spend hours converting videos for iPad, iPad is the device.If you want to watch any and every video acquired however you like, you'd be a fool to have anything other than an Android tablet... and with a stunning range of form factors, features and prices its a no-brainer. VHS vs Betamax.



AVPlayer HD on the iPad plays everything I have thrown at it no converting required. It was taken off the app store for a while but I believe its back now.
bma1445

Windows RT is nothing like an iPad.



Well, one is an OS, and one is a tablet. But if what you meant was 'Surface RT is nothing like an iPad', then of course you're completely wrong. There are lots of ways that the Surface RT is like an iPad; they're both tablets, just for starters. They both run apps. Regardless of which is better, those are definite similarities.

And more particularly, of course, they're both locked down to using apps only from the 'official' store, limited to those approved by the powers that be, with no (legit) way to sideload apps of your choice.

In this respect they are almost precisely like each other, and it was this respect, and this respect only, that they were being compared when you had your 'Sunday morning laugh'.

Mine was at you, so I guess we're all laughing now.
Edited by: "wild_quinine" 4th Aug 2013
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bma1445

Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an … Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an iPad. iPad = best selling tablet ever - basically started this whole tablet thing (search for "tablets before and after ipad"). The iPad has a massive back catalogue of apps. The majority of the crap on the Windows store are just spam (search for "Facebook" and you'll see what I mean).




And just how many of the apps on an iPad will you ever even find let alone want, add to that the hundreds of fart apps and other rubbish and to be honest I would prefer a smaller app store with a higher percentage of apps I would want than have to look through hundreds just to find one......

Oh and don't forget tens of thousands of those on back catalogue are old, out of date, never updated apps from ipad 1 days as well.

Quantity isn't important, yes a godd quality ipad app is really nice, so is an Android one or a windows one as well.....
musical

Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the … Caveat emptor. Will soon be free with cornflakes. Going the way of the Zune. Virtually nobody is buying this or developing applications for it and it doesn't run a full version of Windows. Buy Samsung or Nexus android or iPad unless you have more money than sense and are totally uncool, in which case this is a must buy. Stacked to the ceiling in distributors' warehouses worldwide but rare as a tiger in the wild.



Remember that Windows 8 on PC shares the same app store, and people ARE buying that (whether you like to admit it or not - it's on new PCs by default) so the app situation shouldn't be too bad.
I'd wait - sure to get a lot cheaper as MS try to off-load rather than landfill this turkey
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I'm not an Apple fanboy like several people on here, and I also don't think Windows 8 was as bad as reputed (although, yes, it has a few UI issues), but even I have to admit that the Windows RT tablet is not likely suitable for very many people or for very many uses.

It is too locked down (cannot install a different OS) and the Windows RT OS you are forced to use won't run legacy Windows software, it will only run "apps," and to be frank there is no apps for the platform. All you'll get is a high class web-browser and a cut down version of Office.

So, frankly, if you have £270 to burn then either buy an iPad or buy a good Android tablet. Cannot really recommend this, least of all without the awesome keyboard.
MrMicP

AVPlayer HD on the iPad plays everything I have thrown at it no … AVPlayer HD on the iPad plays everything I have thrown at it no converting required. It was taken off the app store for a while but I believe its back now.



Oh, I thought your standards were based on out-of-the-box, highly functional, stable platforms. I should have remembered that I was able to download paid-for, ropey make-do-and-mend solutions as I did back when Apple's lack of compatibility forced me to buy that app. Still can't beat drag and drop file transfers and storage on usb keys and sd cards, though.
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I would only consider this myself if the price was under £200. Agree with other people that these were priced waaaayyy too high when they came out. My main concern with these RT surface tablets is the support that they will now get from Microsoft. They have already dropped the prices heavily to try to sell them and will probably have to drop prices further to actually sell them in large volumes but then they will be losing money (if they aren't already!) on them. They won't want to continue to support something that is losing them money. Decent bits of kit though.
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Oh, I thought your standards were based on out-of-the-box, highly … Oh, I thought your standards were based on out-of-the-box, highly functional, stable platforms. I should have remembered that I was able to download paid-for, ropey make-do-and-mend solutions as I did back when Apple's lack of compatibility forced me to buy that app. Still can't beat drag and drop file transfers and storage on usb keys and sd cards, though.



Wow whats your problem??? I was stating that you don't have to convert videos for the iPad like you suggested... I have a nexus 7 and an iPad and I prefer my iPad but thats personal preference. There are different devices for different people and competition keeps products evolving and thats a good thing right?

AVPlayer is not a ropey app, for me its a fantastic app that lets me drag and drop my videos into into it....you have no idea what my standards are so keep that in mind next time before you comment, as i'm sure you will do.........

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Oh look someone who is a real meme :pSimple way to look at it....iPad … Oh look someone who is a real meme :pSimple way to look at it....iPad for grannies, mums, tech dummies and those who "just want it to work" and never want to do anything they are not told they can.Android for those who want to configure their home screens with nice widgets, have more control over hardware, be able to root it and load other operating system mods.Windows RT for those who like Apple fans don't mind being restricted with what they can do, can't afford the full windows version and don't want Apple. Or didn't know it wasn't full windows.Me I like Android best but have bought Apple for a mum who only wants it to just work like her iPhone does....



Your analysis is best taken with a pinch of salt. People buying RT don't know what they're doing, or desperately need Office on a tablet when mobile. Personally, I'd buy an lightweight laptop for that, but each to their own.

I like iPads best, because the apps I use work well and sync with the cloud, and let me view and change the data on the iPad, my home PC, my work PC, and my iPhone without crashing and without having to pay extra for security.

I've had Android, and so have some relatives. It's getting mature, and yes you can configure your home screens and generally hack the platform more.

But when the same relatives have had viruses, account theft, crashes, random resets, and application incompatibilies, I'd rather just stick with something that works and is reliable. And if something every does go wrong, I know I can walk into an Apple store and they'll sort it.

A cheap Android (4.0 or above) tablet is probably the best thing for Internet and email, and maybe some apps. Once you start getting to £300, it's debateable whether or not the lack of Android compatibility and stability starts to look a little expensive.

And by that measure £300 spent on RT is just plain bonkers unless having Office on tablet interface is somehow of benefit to you.
There's no money in it for developers, so you're stuck with a very limited set of apps.
MrMicP

Wow whats your problem??? I was stating that you don't have to convert … Wow whats your problem??? I was stating that you don't have to convert videos for the iPad like you suggested... I have a nexus 7 and an iPad and I prefer my iPad but thats personal preference. There are different devices for different people and competition keeps products evolving and thats a good thing right?AVPlayer is not a ropey app, for me its a fantastic app that lets me drag and drop my videos into into it....you have no idea what my standards are so keep that in mind next time before you comment, as i'm sure you will do.........



I get the feeling he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. On my Android devices I have had to use MXPlayer and a custom CODEC to play the most common H264 DTS MKV files.
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limegreenzx

I get the feeling he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. On my … I get the feeling he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. On my Android devices I have had to use MXPlayer and a custom CODEC to play the most common H264 DTS MKV files.



Thats what I thought I had to do to play video on my nexus, but it was a while ago so wasn't going to bring it up in case I go it wrong...he'd love that

EDIT: actually it was my Xoom I had to use MXPlayer
Edited by: "deleted231551" 4th Aug 2013
SampleX

Ahhh. Stunning display of blind donkeyism. You assume that because Apple … Ahhh. Stunning display of blind donkeyism. You assume that because Apple set a precedent that the revolution they started was necessary or genuinely beneficial.I see it this way: stacks of idiots rushed to jump a gun that Apple fired prematurely in natural curve of technological progression and bought an over-priced lump of entertainment gadgetry mis-sold as being functionally useful and paradigm-defining in an enterprise capacity. More savvy manufacturers waited to get a product right before release, rather than rush to market. Apple NEVER caught up on matching functionality with portability, else they'd have deployed an iPadPro running full OSX rather than a glorified 9.7inch PSP running Apple's ecosystem. Even now the most anticipated and lauded software on iPad is made by Adobe, Google and Microsoft. Over a year later Apple Maps stands as a monument to sheer idiocy.So the illusion is that Apple set the standard of tablet computers. Not strictly true. Compaq. Windows XP. Touchscreen pen input with foldaway keyboard. Highly desirable at the time and affordable only to enterprise. But there's an inconvenient truth. Having farted out the iPad and the miniscule 'paradigm setting' iPhone (cough cough Palm, Windows Mobile) it took other tech companies to take their time, consider and research, and discover that 3.5 inch smartphones with rounded backs and 9.7inch 4:3 ratio heavy tablets were the public's least favourite form factors. Apple laughed at 7 inch tablets, widescreen ratios, digital stylus input, sd card slots, replaceable batteries in smartphones, and the place for full desktop OS's in tablet form. Apple birthed an upstart. Since then Samsung, Microsoft, Dell, HTC and others have raised mature and intelligent offspring.Now... Microsoft produced an excellent response to the demand for tablet full-OS computing with Surface Pro, and followed Apple's unjustifiably high price tags. Then, I agree, they produced the pitiable poor cousin, Surface RT. BUT. The RT has 'failed' entirely because of the standard set by iPad. First, it exists because of everything iPad isn't... it tries to be a modern, effective, attractive, capable enterprise compatible, functional device running MSOffice. Unfortunately it also tries to follow the idiotic standard of the iPad... irredeemably simple, locked ecosystem, dumbed down. End result: too 'Microsoft' to be 'Apple' and too iOS to be Windows.No man's land. Irrelevant because of its iPad-esque limitations. While demand for an affordable Surface Pro grows, to flourish into a new market of tablet computing for intelligent and discerning users.I have an iPad. Its years since an interesting and irresistible app came on the market. And still more people use Kindle apps than iBook.



Thanks alerting us to blind donkeyism, then diminishing any credence by following it with paragraphs of blind donkeyism.

Whatever your view don't buy this deal, it will be dead and unsupported soon enough, if it was £100 or so it'd be a different story.
Would jump of on this if it wasn't RT, as would many others I suspect.
bma1445

Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an … Lol. Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.Windows RT is nothing like an iPad. iPad = best selling tablet ever - basically started this whole tablet thing (search for "tablets before and after ipad"). The iPad has a massive back catalogue of apps. The majority of the crap on the Windows store are just spam (search for "Facebook" and you'll see what I mean).



The point I was getting across was you are limited to what is available on both platforms, which you know, so stop trying to be clever.

Written on my ipad.
shane2010

Don't expect poor people to get it



And you are so rich that you are on HDUK looking to save money!! Got to love the **** apple fanboys, are the no windows available for you to lick this afternoon
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