Miele Complete C2 Cat and Dog Extreme Vacuum Cleaner 1600W - £119.99 at Amazon
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Miele Complete C2 Cat and Dog Extreme Vacuum Cleaner 1600W - £119.99 at Amazon

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Found 1st Sep 2017
I guess price matching the Argos deal posted a few days ago. Sold by Amazon so prime-able & free delivery.

£190 at JL and > £200 elsewhere.
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afroylnt44 m ago

EU strategy is flawed, I know shock, horror! ; hovering with a low powered …EU strategy is flawed, I know shock, horror! ; hovering with a low powered vaccum cleaner takes twice as long as a high power one but uses pretty much the same electricity...



Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?
johnmcdon2 h, 4 m ago

Get a dyson with active heads. Much more efficient at removing dirt

Get a dog then realise your Dyson is worse than what comes out of the back of your dog.
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pibpob40 m ago

Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?


Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use than our old dyson. Sorry to offend your green views.

Surprised you have time to post as assumed you would be to busy using your EU / underpowered hoover..
Edited by: "afroylnt" 1st Sep 2017
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Just bought from Argos (£130) and its very powerful. Really great vacuum cleaner.(The John Lewis one says only 1200 w on the specs page)
Edited by: "silvercrest23" 1st Sep 2017
Hmm energy class F, looks like one of them high power low efficiency ones the EU is trying to get banned, so they are probably offloading remaining stock cheap, might get even cheaper still as they want to get rid of them while they can still sell them. From the Amazon page it looks potentially a good buy if you have pets though....
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UK stores are still allowed to sell old stock - no time limit on that. From today they won't be allowed to import or manufacture vacuums with a power exceeding 900W: bbc.co.uk/new…355
Get a dyson with active heads. Much more efficient at removing dirt
Not allowed to import any more as of today. dailymail.co.uk/new…tml
Edited by: "danj303" 1st Sep 2017
ST31231 h, 36 m ago

Hmm energy class F, looks like one of them high power low efficiency ones …Hmm energy class F, looks like one of them high power low efficiency ones the EU is trying to get banned, so they are probably offloading remaining stock cheap, might get even cheaper still as they want to get rid of them while they can still sell them. From the Amazon page it looks potentially a good buy if you have pets though....


EU strategy is flawed, I know shock, horror! ; hovering with a low powered vaccum cleaner takes twice as long as a high power one but uses pretty much the same electricity...
Was just going to post this. Had it reserved at Argos for 129 (+£10 voucher) but just realised it had been reduced to 119 at Amazon, so ordered it there.
afroylnt44 m ago

EU strategy is flawed, I know shock, horror! ; hovering with a low powered …EU strategy is flawed, I know shock, horror! ; hovering with a low powered vaccum cleaner takes twice as long as a high power one but uses pretty much the same electricity...



Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?
johnmcdon2 h, 4 m ago

Get a dyson with active heads. Much more efficient at removing dirt

Get a dog then realise your Dyson is worse than what comes out of the back of your dog.
johnmcdon2 h, 12 m ago

Get a dyson with active heads. Much more efficient at removing dirt


Really? That's not my experience especially when you take into account the time spent emptying the tiny dust container and cleaning the thing. I had 3 Dysons before realising that my heart was with the wrong brand. I have a Miele C2 now and realise that Dyson has a very strong marketing dept. which wins over customers with the theoretical science of their machines, but they simply don't deliver like a good old-fashioned bag hoover.

I moved to Dyson to avoid using disposable bags. What I found is I swapped disposable bags for disposable parts / filters and time to clean all the parts that regularly get blocked. The Miele is hassle-free in comparison.

I still have a relatively new Dyson in one of my homes and I'm tempted to pass it on to someone even before it inevitably breaks in favour of another Miele.
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pibpob40 m ago

Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?


Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use than our old dyson. Sorry to offend your green views.

Surprised you have time to post as assumed you would be to busy using your EU / underpowered hoover..
Edited by: "afroylnt" 1st Sep 2017
afroylnt8 m ago

P Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use …P Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use than our old dyson. Sorry to offend your green views.Surprised you have time to post as assumed you would be to busy using your EU / underpowered hoover..


As I thought - Daily Mail levels of scientific ineptitude.
Thank you for posting the deal!
pibpob1 h, 9 m ago

Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?



pibpob1 h, 9 m ago

Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?


And I admire your guilibity; but thank goodness not everyone is so easily fooled..happy hoovering as you will be spending allot of time on it I think.
pibpob1 h, 9 m ago

Where did you get that information from? A test lab or the Daily Mail?


Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use than our old dyson. Sorry to offend your green views.
afroylnt20 m ago

And I admire your guilibity; but thank goodness not everyone is so easily …And I admire your guilibity; but thank goodness not everyone is so easily fooled..happy hoovering as you will be spending allot of time on it I think.Past experience of Hoovers. Current Meile 2000w is twice as fast to use than our old dyson. Sorry to offend your green views.



You've just repeated yourself. I know where you got that "Information" from - a subjective comparison of two totally different units. If you had any scientific nous at all, you would realise that such a flawed experiment would be laughed out of court. And yet, of course, your experience, on a sample of one, trumps (pun intended) properly controlled scientific studies done by respected test labs, because they are part of some EU conspiracy to stop us eating bent carrots - or something.
Thank you. Great deal.
The carpet pick up is rated as a C, the same as a £80 Hoover in Argos?! How?!!
ryanshelton1 h, 0 m ago

The carpet pick up is rated as a C, the same as a £80 Hoover in Argos?! …The carpet pick up is rated as a C, the same as a £80 Hoover in Argos?! How?!!




I'm mystified how they test and measure their cleaning ratings, but Which apparently haven't found the labels consistent with their own tests:- which.co.uk/new…54/


I've found the best guide is airwatts and airflow, my current machine is 360 airwatts and is easily the best at removing dust, including dust deeply embedded into the pile of the carpet that I've used. It is also double the new EU max wattage, so when it fails it will be hard to get a worthwhile replacement.
Edited by: "melted" 1st Sep 2017
pibpob1 h, 35 m ago

You've just repeated yourself. I know where you got that "Information" …You've just repeated yourself. I know where you got that "Information" from - a subjective comparison of two totally different units. If you had any scientific nous at all, you would realise that such a flawed experiment would be laughed out of court. And yet, of course, your experience, on a sample of one, trumps (pun intended) properly controlled scientific studies done by respected test labs, because they are part of some EU conspiracy to stop us eating bent carrots - or something.


Go on then give us all a laugh, what 900w EU green approved hoover has the same real world vaccuming power as this Meile?
melted57 m ago

I'm mystified how they test and measure their cleaning ratings, but Which …I'm mystified how they test and measure their cleaning ratings, but Which apparently haven't found the labels consistent with their own tests:- http://www.which.co.uk/news/2015/01/should-you-trust-new-vacuum-cleaner-energy-labels-390954/I've found the best guide is airwatts and airflow, my current machine is 360 airwatts and is easily the best at removing dust, including dust deeply embedded into the pile of the carpet that I've used. It is also double the new EU max wattage, so when it fails it will be hard to get a worthwhile replacement.



James Dyson's beef with the EC tests is that they only measure with new bags, and either the performance drops off as the bags fill, or the power consumption is increased by the device to compensate. I can see his point! He's won his appeal against the dismissal of his case though. (Maybe after the VW scandal they're realised their testing regime is far from satisfactory?)

However, I can see exactly why these controls are needed: to protect a generally scientifically illiterate public from the ruthless marketing machine. Even if you don't get so many air watts overall, I hope you get more air watts per electricity watt and that the airflow is used more wisely.
Been using Miele's for years. Last year thought we would try a Dyson. What a waste of £250. Most over-engineered thing on the planet and so uncomfortable to use around our home and on staircase.
123sonny12315 m ago

Been using Miele's for years. Last year thought we would try a Dyson. What …Been using Miele's for years. Last year thought we would try a Dyson. What a waste of £250. Most over-engineered thing on the planet and so uncomfortable to use around our home and on staircase.

Which dyson? I have the dyson v8 its a god send
johnmcdon11 m ago

Which dyson? I have the dyson v8 its a god send



People seem very polarised about vacuum cleaners, which is a bit daft, as they do evolve over time. I had a DC01 at the beginning, which was pretty poor. I have a DC-in-the-20s which is pretty good. I'm sure other vacuum cleaners are available, which are equally good.
I have £100 gift card... thinking about ordering this.
pibpob1 h, 48 m ago

James Dyson's beef with the EC tests is that they only measure with new …James Dyson's beef with the EC tests is that they only measure with new bags, and either the performance drops off as the bags fill, or the power consumption is increased by the device to compensate. I can see his point! He's won his appeal against the dismissal of his case though. (Maybe after the VW scandal they're realised their testing regime is far from satisfactory?)However, I can see exactly why these controls are needed: to protect a generally scientifically illiterate public from the ruthless marketing machine. Even if you don't get so many air watts overall, I hope you get more air watts per electricity watt and that the airflow is used more wisely.



And bagless vacuums like Dyson's get less and less efficient as their filter clogs, but that and dyson's complaint are only relevant in that with an already underpowered vacuum, you don't have the option of turning the power dial up to boost the suction when the filter or bags start getting clogged, the result being that you have to replace bags more often, and wash and replace expensive filters more frequently, if not the whole machine because you've had enough of it.

Before these rules, there were a few horribly inefficient vacuum cleaners on the market due to their poor design and inefficient motors, that were using their high power rating as a selling point yet delivered poor suction, but there were already much more efficient vacuums that used a high wattage motor to actually deliver high airwatts and more effective and faster cleaning. There's some room for improvement in motors, but I seriously doubt you'll get as good vacuums using only 900 watts.

My current vacuum at 1,800 watts is only 200 watts more than my previous model (which was still an above average suction one) yet it was something like 100 extra airwatts, and when new was exceptionally quiet due to good design. I can really appreciate the difference when I go over the carpet with a carpet washer after vacuuming, if there are no spills on the carpet, the washing water comes out clear, after vacuuming with the old one it would be grey from all the washed out dust.
Edited by: "melted" 1st Sep 2017
Heat added although I don't need one. I have a 2000w bagged Philips vacuum with 400 airwatts that I bought from Amazon Germany a couple of years ago. It's incredibly efficient and only cost £120 including delivery. I for one find Dysons ridiculously expensive, cumbersome and overrated.
Edited by: "chomba" 1st Sep 2017
Now £199 😣
I have this model , had it for over 5 years its excellent far better than my old dyson and great for cat hair , very powerful with separate attachment for hard floors as stairs
I thought we voted to leave. Why EU laws still effecting us?
Thank you op, still available for £119, see other sellers, Amazon don't have stock at the moment estimate 2 - 4 weeks if need sooner maybe the Argos deal?, John Lewis have for £129 also then you get 2 year warranty, thought all electrical had to come with 2 years due to EU law?
thepharmacist32 m ago

Thank you op, still available for £119, see other sellers, Amazon don't …Thank you op, still available for £119, see other sellers, Amazon don't have stock at the moment estimate 2 - 4 weeks if need sooner maybe the Argos deal?, John Lewis have for £129 also then you get 2 year warranty, thought all electrical had to come with 2 years due to EU law?


This is an extreme..the others arent
ST312322 h, 6 m ago

Hmm energy class F, looks like one of them high power low efficiency ones …Hmm energy class F, looks like one of them high power low efficiency ones the EU is trying to get banned, so they are probably offloading remaining stock cheap, might get even cheaper still as they want to get rid of them while they can still sell them. From the Amazon page it looks potentially a good buy if you have pets though....



so it seems bring on the even lower power, poor performance EU approved vaccums; then take twice as long to hoover....
Edited by: "afroylnt" 2nd Sep 2017
C1 is £99.95 at John Lewis. Its so powerful at full it just sticks to the carpet and you cant move it. Even at half power its a workout pushing it round. I guess that means it must be doing a good job sucking up the dirt?

Think I'll need to combine it with a less powerful everyday cordless.
johnmcdon15 h, 35 m ago

Which dyson? I have the dyson v8 its a god send


You need to watch this albeit different model. Speaks volumes.
As the owner of three Newfoundlands I believe I may speak with some confidence as to what works/doesn't work too well at coping with long coated dog fur. Over the years I've used three Dysons starting with DC03, Numatic Henry and Miele C2. The Henry is great with bags until about half full, it's cheap and amazingly robust. The Miele has great design, everything is well thought out and has coped with everything we can throw at it. Dysons have universally turned out to be a disappointment, all have suffered premature death in one way or another. Where do they source their plastics from - seems unusually brittle in comparison to other manufacturers. Available in nice colours according to my wife. Which is why we've had three of them.
afroylnt1 h, 38 m ago

so it seems bring on the even lower power, poor performance EU approved …so it seems bring on the even lower power, poor performance EU approved vaccums; then take twice as long to hoover....



So it seems bring on lower power, more efficient EU approved vacuums which lower your electricity bill and reduce carbon emissions; then take less long to hoover as they don't just stick to the carpet...
melted15 h, 9 m ago

And bagless vacuums like Dyson's get less and less efficient as their …And bagless vacuums like Dyson's get less and less efficient as their filter clogs, but that and dyson's complaint are only relevant in that with an already underpowered vacuum, you don't have the option of turning the power dial up to boost the suction when the filter or bags start getting clogged, the result being that you have to replace bags more often, and wash and replace expensive filters more frequently, if not the whole machine because you've had enough of it.Before these rules, there were a few horribly inefficient vacuum cleaners on the market due to their poor design and inefficient motors, that were using their high power rating as a selling point yet delivered poor suction, but there were already much more efficient vacuums that used a high wattage motor to actually deliver high airwatts and more effective and faster cleaning. There's some room for improvement in motors, but I seriously doubt you'll get as good vacuums using only 900 watts.My current vacuum at 1,800 watts is only 200 watts more than my previous model (which was still an above average suction one) yet it was something like 100 extra airwatts, and when new was exceptionally quiet due to good design. I can really appreciate the difference when I go over the carpet with a carpet washer after vacuuming, if there are no spills on the carpet, the washing water comes out clear, after vacuuming with the old one it would be grey from all the washed out dust.

How often do you use a carpet washer? Which hoover are you talking about that has 100 extra air watts? Which carpet washer do you use?
coming up as £199.95
Have the bagless model, great suction, so much power. Had Dyson previously which was fine but switched to Miele- cheaper and Dyson was pro-Brexit.
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