Miele Prestige 6 washing machine, £517.75 delivered @ Kitchen Science
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Miele Prestige 6 washing machine, £517.75 delivered @ Kitchen Science

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Found 9th Feb 2009Made hot 10th Feb 2009
As I just bot a new washing machine, courtesy of tallpete33's hint [http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/334683/zanussi-zwf120701-1200-spin-white-w], I am still looking around for washing machine deals.

I know Mieles are more expensive than other brands although you save afterward with extended warranty and you can argue they build better machines.

6kg load, 1300 max speed
Energy efficiency A+ Wash performance A Spin efficiency B
Full specs at miele.co.uk/Pro…819

Focusing on this model, I couldn't find a better price for this. Use voucher code TOPBRAND5 for this price.

I am interested in your votes and comments. The debate shall open now..

109 Comments

Great product Miele,,,Had our washer/dryer more than ten years and still going strong,,,

I have LG - F1403FD which is also highly recommended if anyone is looking for a larger drum

you wont beat these for washing machines Heat added.:thumbsup:

Banned

are you guys serious? cos the price on this is like, £300 more than some of the good ones.

see, my washer broke own a couple of weeks ago. i was determined im gonna fix this myself and not call out the local guy. i found out a few things on my quest to get it fixed. here ill list them. by the way, ive never ever touched a washing machine.

i did eventually call out the guy, because i had a look inside the machine and realised if im gonna do this, best to see it done first. i could have requested a video of it being done online, (guy was very helpful online)
but it would have taken him awhile to get the right model and video tutorial it, i was on a time constraint. me and the fixer had an interesting chat about machines.

he says for a standard machine price, you are best off with a bosch. i also think he mentioned zanussi. i had the bloody name in my head whilst typing, got to this sentence and now its gone! we never discussed high end machines, simply because he said there aint much point. i also found out that hotpoints/hoover/indesit, are notorious for breakdowns. HOWEVER, most of the faults are that they stop spinnig, and the reason is this. in another make, if it stopped spinning, it would probably be the motor itself, which is a costly replacement. but in hotpoint/hoover/indesit, there are (usually) two carbon brushes. once these go, the machine will stop spinning, as was the case for mine. i would have fixed it but like i said, the motor needed removing and i wanted to see it done. the good thing is that instead of the motor going, the brushes go, which is a cheap and easy replacement. also, removing the motor was a piece of cake once i seen it done. along with replacing the brushes which is a simple slot in. he popped the motor in and it was off again in a matter of minutes. youd be surprised at the helpful content available online, to help you fix your own washer.

anyway, i guess its a good post, but where would you go for parts if say it broke down after 6-7 years?

kapows;4335806

are you guys serious? cos the price on this is like, £300 more than some … are you guys serious? cos the price on this is like, £300 more than some of the good ones. i guess its a good post, but where would you go for parts if say it broke down after 6-7 years?


You would go to your local Euoronics store..:thumbsup:

We have had a Bosch washer/dryer for 20 years now, honestly, I swear, and I have never called an engineer out to repair it. Aside from the usual blocked filters, the only repairs I've done to it are replacing the door lock and replacing some manifold thingy that switched the incoming water down different pipes. Both these jobs were not only relatively easy, but the guy at Bosch's parts dept ran through over the phone how to find out what part was needed and how to replace it. Our Bosch dishwasher was bought on the same day and (touching wood) nothing at all has ever gone wrong with it. Bosch for ever!

kapows;4335806

are you guys serious? cos the price on this is like, £300 more than some … are you guys serious? cos the price on this is like, £300 more than some of the good ones.see, my washer broke own a couple of weeks ago. i was determined im gonna fix this myself and not call out the local guy. i found out a few things on my quest to get it fixed. here ill list them. by the way, ive never ever touched a washing machine. i did eventually call out the guy, because i had a look inside the machine and realised if im gonna do this, best to see it done first. i could have requested a video of it being done online, (guy was very helpful online)but it would have taken him awhile to get the right model and video tutorial it, i was on a time constraint. me and the fixer had an interesting chat about machines.he says for a standard machine price, you are best off with a bosch. i also think he mentioned zanussi. i had the bloody name in my head whilst typing, got to this sentence and now its gone! we never discussed high end machines, simply because he said there aint much point. i also found out that hotpoints/hoover/indesit, are notorious for breakdowns. HOWEVER, most of the faults are that they stop spinnig, and the reason is this. in another make, if it stopped spinning, it would probably be the motor itself, which is a costly replacement. but in hotpoint/hoover/indesit, there are (usually) two carbon brushes. once these go, the machine will stop spinning, as was the case for mine. i would have fixed it but like i said, the motor needed removing and i wanted to see it done. the good thing is that instead of the motor going, the brushes go, which is a cheap and easy replacement. also, removing the motor was a piece of cake once i seen it done. along with replacing the brushes which is a simple slot in. he popped the motor in and it was off again in a matter of minutes. youd be surprised at the helpful content available online, to help you fix your own washer.anyway, i guess its a good post, but where would you go for parts if say it broke down after 6-7 years?



Its not always as simple as the brushes going, a number of things can happen and this have a knock on effect through the machine. You can change the brushes on the older machines but if you got say a Hotpoint/Indesit with a newer FHP motor then probably no chance to get replacement brushes the motor has to be changed.

Oh and repairing if yourself invalidates any household insurances buildings and contents a customer of mine tried to fix a washing machine himself which was out of warranty and the drum dig a hole in his kitchen floor after destroying his sink and it cost him thousands to repair.

On the Miele are way ahead in terms of quality compared to the competition, exceptionally effective cleaning and they will generally last you around 10-25 years. I would say that their is a pretty good gap between Quality (Miele) to mid (Bosch/Some Electrolux's), mid range appliances are much closer to buget models nowadays as there are so many generic parts nowadays.

IF you can afford a Miele get one, else stick to what you like best not many 'good' machines out there nowadays.

Yep, I gotta agree with the quality and the sense of buying a Miele. They are far superior to the likes of Hotpoint etc. Before I got a Miele I was lucky if a machine would last a couple of years, never looked back since buying a Miele. I bought it second hand at 5 years old for £200 and I've had it for 5 years now and it's still as good as the day I got it. They cost a bit more to buy (because they use much better quality materials and are way better built) but you save in the long run on repairs/replacement. Don't take my word for it, ask any washing machine repairer or look at any forum that discusses such things.

Kankan101;4336211

Oh and repairing if yourself invalidates any household insurances … Oh and repairing if yourself invalidates any household insurances buildings and contents



That's just plain scaremongering!

I've never had a policy which would be invalidated by you performing repairs on something yourself - and I read the policy wording of every policy I take out. If this were the case it would leave every DIY'er without insurance - and many companies make a point of saying in their adverts that you are covered for 'accidental damage' and such like.

BUT - note 1. Gas work must be carried out by a 'competent person' - usually a Corgi Registered installer and 2. Mains electricity is dangerous, so you should not consider performing a repair yourself unless you are confident you can do it safely.

Kankan101;4336211

Its not always as simple as the brushes going, a number of things can … Its not always as simple as the brushes going, a number of things can happen and this have a knock on effect through the machine. You can change the brushes on the older machines but if you got say a Hotpoint/Indesit with a newer FHP motor then probably no chance to get replacement brushes the motor has to be changed.Oh and repairing if yourself a customer of mine tried to fix a washing machine himself which was out of warranty and the drum dig a hole in his kitchen floor after destroying his sink and it cost him thousands to repair.On the Miele are way ahead in terms of quality compared to the competition, exceptionally effective cleaning and they will generally last you around 10-25 years. I would say that their is a pretty good gap between Quality (Miele) to mid (Bosch/Some Electrolux's), mid range appliances are much closer to buget models nowadays as there are so many generic parts nowadays.what a load of rubbish invalidates any household insurances buildings and contents so you cannot do DIY any more cannot fix anything in your house even change fuse or plug lol what about decorating? .Also best washer i have had was the cheapest it was indesit lasted ten years with 3 young kids to wash for was used loads only got rid because it was getting rusty.Painted it up sold it s/h as it still worked ok

This was always going to be a thread where cost is an issue, just like the PC Anti-Virus one with Kaspersky, that appears on a regular basis.
I'm sure that some people have long a stable 'relationship' with their appliance but a Bosch made 5-10 years ago will not be the same today. Even if it has the same model number.
Personally, I'd go for Miele, and am currently saving for one. After 2 dishwashers in 6 years (one Zanussi, one Bosch) that were uneconomical to repair. For the Bosch, a relay on the circuit board fizzled out and the replacement board would have cost over £100 + vat + fitting, and more than likely gone again in a couple of years!
Check out ]ukwhitegoods.co.uk which has a good advice and forum area with lots of information on all appliances.

Nice deal for the rich.

Bosch has on average , a major failure after 6/7 years from new. The call out for an authorised agent is always uneconomical when compared with buying new. So the option is either to repair oneself or buy a new one or buy a Miele. However it may be cost effective to buy a Bosch for £300 , invest the £200 + which after 7 years should enable you to buy another Bosch.

matedodgy;4336795

Nice deal for the rich.


Buy a £300 machine and replace it every few years or buy a £500 machine and have something that outlasts 3 cheap machines, to me thats better value. But you carry on buying the cheap stuff that keeps breaking down, that way the shops wont run out of quality goods for those of us that want them.

kingy58;4337773

Buy a £300 machine and replace it every few years or buy a £500 machine a … Buy a £300 machine and replace it every few years or buy a £500 machine and have something that outlasts 3 cheap machines, to me thats better value. But you carry on buying the cheap stuff that keeps breaking down, that way the shops wont run out of quality goods for those of us that want them.




This can be a double edged sword though. Your machine that lasts 15years or something will be horribly outdated and behind the technology. You might be wishing for it to break just so you can upgrade!!

For example, I imagine half the programs on a current machine didnt exist 15yrs ago, no 30deg wash? half loads, energy efficiency probably wasn't anywhere near A, etc etc.

I really want something in between. Last 10years or so and be a decent price, suits me.

While I have been pummelled into buying better quality washing machines and tumble driers after years of constant replacements of unreliable, noisy and ill-constructed cheap gear, Miele unfortunately don't seem to be as confident of their own equipment as the fans seem to be!

2 years warranty isn't something that inspires me, for one reason, as good as it might be, you can ALWAYS get a duff one, it DOES happen with the best of machinery - if you get one, then you are not getting a lot of peace of mind that Mile will continue to sort it out :-(

Also, for tumble drier users, such as myself - the 1300 spin isn't the best way to quick and economical drying, although for line users, it won't be quite as apparent. I would be looking for faster spin.
See this for some interesting comments on the pros and cons of faster machines: whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wor…ts/

[btw, the pros and cons of this type of deal have been well discussed before, so I was trying to keep discussion to the SPECIFICS of this machine rather than the generalities which can be seen with a quick search!]

Incidentally, this retailers site is WELL out of date... it turns out that a FIVE year warranty is available and included from the Miele web site...
miele.co.uk/Pro…504

and what's more, some models have a TEN year warranty, so this range needs looking at before you commit to a purchase - no doubt a dearer range, but if the manufacturer is sticking in the 10 years warranty, it at least implies a bigger commitment to quality! This range is here:
miele.co.uk/Pro…505
they seem to start at about £765 but if you have the cash for outlay now, the economics may well stack up!

The most reliable brand name washing machine you can buy.

miele is purely and simply,,,,the daddy of em all,,,,absolutely not for the rich,,, it is false economy to buy anything else,,,, they are so confident they give 5 or 10 year parts/lab guarantee on them,,, mine is 10 years,,, its 10/10 on everything,,,incredibly quiet u dont even know its on,,, for me false economy to buy anything else,,, if ur hard up u can get it on monthly payments from loads of dealers,,, buti find dixons.co.uk usually the cheapest,,,, fantastic product ,, i am scripping for every penny,, washer on everyday,,, would consider ,,, nothing else from now on,,, you have tried the rest,,,,,now get the best,,,,,,,miele,,, and no i dont work for them(i work in mental health) seen these used in hospitals and the like,,, no one ever has a bad word,,,i am as u have guessed totally converted to miele.

shud read,,, absolutely not just for the rich.

Got to agree Miele are the best, bought ours 9 years ago, its used every day and totally problem free

bond e lad;4339058

if ur hard up u can get it on monthly payments from loads of dealers,,, … if ur hard up u can get it on monthly payments from loads of dealers,,, buti find dixons.co.uk usually the cheapest



You have to be kidding.

Apart from anything else, buying from a DSG company isn 't something I do if I can avoid it, you will pay a higher price, ( Miele is one of those brands you can almost ALWAYS find cheaper at other companies!) and then pay ridiculous credit costs on top of that! :-(

eg this same machine is £650 delivered!

Typical APR for finance options is 29.5%

Dear God! :-(

Had my first bosch machine for 6 years. Left it at our last house still working perfectly.

Our current ones on 3 years. Cost around £290, been very please with them. German quality will do me fine personally.

Still this is good kit if you have the money, personally I dont think this will be twice as good or last twice as long as a similar Bosch machine. Pretty sure in fact but if you have money to burn fair enough. I voted hot BTW as it is good price for this model it would seem.

Banned

my hotpoint - when bought back in the day

£230 + 5 year guarantee, yes guarantee (fixed on site by engineer parts + labour included)

got a letter to extend the guarantee, yes, guarantee. not warranty. guarantee

£30 for 1 year

it had a three year price too cant remember what it was

so you see, still cheaper than ya mylee cyrus washing machine. my hotpoint naffed up after 4yrs, but it was fixed hassle free at the time. the reason i called out the engineer as mentioned in my earlier post is because its been 7 years now and silly old me didnt bother renewing the bloody guarantee

An engineer told me Bosch for the best of the middle-range brands, Miele the absolute best for the top-end brands.
I suppose everyone has different experiences though!

Banned

me and you must share the same engineer lol

Bosch not what it used to be.

Last one I bought didn't even have a decent program for muddy football kit - couldn't do a long wash at 40 or under! So it was returned.

Bought a Miele instead with a 10 year warranty and haven't looked back. It's used one or twice a day and looks and sounds like new. Sure it was a lot of money but has been the best value machine I've ever owned.

My mother is on her 2nd Miele washing machine. The first lasted 22 years and the second is now 16 years old. Our first Miele machine lasted 17 years. We decided to replace it and got a newer model 2 years ago with a 10 year warranty. Guess what? The people we gave the old machine to still have it, and it is still going strong. They did moan recently that they did think it was noisier than our new one on the spin cycle! :roll:

As a person who has bought machines on an industrial level as well, there is nothing to fault a Miele. I seem to remember an engineer telling me that a Miele Industrial machine is built for a 20,000 cycle lifetime and that the home machines have the same motors in. In relative terms they are cheaper now than they were when we bought our first sensortronic model in the 80's as they were 3 times the price of an ordinary machine. Even if that were the case today I would still buy one.

As to being out-dated, all machines manufactured in the last few years all have updatable software and so if you have an engineer out for any reason they always update the software. Plus our new one is either an A rated or A+. Cannot remeber off the top of my head.

My advice - never buy anything other than a Miele washing machine if you can afford it - you will never regret it. Same with their vaccuum cleaners.

However steer clear of their Ovens - rebranded Aristons as far as I remember - worst think my mother did buy with a Miele badge on.;-)

Between my mother and ourselves we have had the Miele engineer out a total of 7 times. 5 times to replace motor brushes. Once to replace a relay and once to replace a seal on the pump. Every time the engineers have come within 2 days, had the parts on the van, and spent more time talking and having a coffee than it took to repair the machines!

No - I don't work for them - "credit where credit is due" is what I say :thumbsup:.

matedodgy;4336795

Nice deal for the rich.



Hardly.:roll:

If you buy quality items, they tend to last longer and perform better. It's a question of saving more for the higher quality item, so you don't necessarily have to be rich. What a stupid comment.

nihcaj;4338880

.....they seem to start at about £765 but if you have the cash for outlay … .....they seem to start at about £765 but if you have the cash for outlay now, the economics may well stack up!



Spot on. Paid £1000 for a machine still going 19 years later with a total of £110 for brushes to be replaced = £58 a year = £1 a week (ish!)

New machine £765 with no outlay for 10 years = a maximum of £77 a year - if it only lasted 10 years, which is highly unlikely.

Ou first Bosch lasted 6 years and our second one is still going strong after just 5 years.

I've always been tempted by a Miele washing machine. We've got a few Miele products which have all been very good, but their equivalent washing machines to our Bosch are around twice the price and at the end of the day who would want to be using the same washing machine for 20 years? A 1989 model would probably spin at about 800rpm and be very inefficient all round.

Good deal indeed :thumbsup:

But got a cheapy hotpoint as a wedding pressie 13 years ago and it died after 11 years, replacement hotpoint, basic one, was well under £200 if I get 11 years out of this one too I'll be happy:thumbsup: the new one is fully energy efficient with low tep washes, 1/2 loads etc.... so keeps me happy, with 2 kids it gets used a lot:w00t:

so hopefully my £200 will outlast the £500 one on offer here;-)

Ou first Bosch lasted 6 years and our second one is still going strong … Ou first Bosch lasted 6 years and our second one is still going strong after just 5 years.I've always been tempted by a Miele washing machine. We've got a few Miele products which have all been very good, but their equivalent washing machines to our Bosch are around twice the price and at the end of the day who would want to be using the same washing machine for 20 years? A 1989 model would probably spin at about 800rpm and be very inefficient all round.



Exactly. Who wants to keep the same machine for 10 - 15 years ! Or wants to have someone comming out to repair them even if its only every few years ?

Our first Bosch machine we left at our last house is still running fine. Its almost 9 years old and has never been serviced or had anyone out to repair it !. It cost around £280. Even though it worked perfectly we left it as we couldnt be bothered with the hassle of moving it and had good use out of it. The new top of the range one we got still cost less than £300 as is also a dryer !

Miele make very good vacs and washers no doubt about it. But in reality even if you keep them forever they dont work out cheaper than a decent bosch, not in my experience anyway. If I get 5 or 6 years out of it fine I will just buy another one but in reality they seem to last much much longer in my experience anyway....

Miele are very good machines and they put their money where there mouths are by handing out such long warranties. Only thing to be wary of is the closed system they run for repairs, in other words only Miele engineers can repair Miele machines.

The guys at ukwhitegoods also sell some machines with 5 year and 10 year warranties but their machines aren't closed systems which should mean they would be much cheaper to repair - and by most engineers.

I've also faced the similar decision around buying cheaper machines versus getting a quality one. If you factor in the cost of money into the decision it isn't always clear cut.

We had an Ariston washer - lasted 2.5 years - cost around £200
We've now got a Bosch - lasted 4 .5 years and still going - cost around £240

On such cheap washers I wont pay for repairs.

well, had a bosch in our old property which we now rent out. It was a washer dryer and every couple of years something went wrong with it. Luckily had homecare so it has always been covered. This was a top of the range machine which cost something like 600 quid new. Suffice to say it packed in for good the other week. Mind you that was after about seven years of service.

In the property we live in now we have miele appliances and they're great... but the washing machine packed in after only a week - faulty circuit board. Obviously covered and it has a 5 year warranty.

Also, on one of his many visits I asked the repair man which washer/dryer he would advise on getting and he said...none. Washer dryers are in his words a pain as they break down far more than having a washing machine. But when pushed he said Miele or an expensive Bosch (cheaper varieties have more plasticky bits).

The moral is I would never buy an appliance expecting 100% that it would last for a decade - most cars don't manage that without serious work, but if it does then it's a bonus. I would always go for Miele now as they have a better track record. Trust me, when you see the inner workings of them, you know they're better than the usual ones.

And after the last one, I would go for a separate washing machine and dryer, space permitting of course. I'd give bosch 7/10 and miele 9/10.

and incidentally, this is the same washing machine we bought a couple of years ago. Despite the initial issue of a faulty circuit board it's been excellent I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone.

kapows;4339260

my hotpoint - when bought back in the day£230 + 5 year guarantee, yes … my hotpoint - when bought back in the day£230 + 5 year guarantee, yes guarantee (fixed on site by engineer parts + labour included)got a letter to extend the guarantee, yes, guarantee. not warranty. guarantee£30 for 1 yearit had a three year price too cant remember what it wasso you see, still cheaper than ya mylee cyrus washing machine. my hotpoint naffed up after 4yrs, but it was fixed hassle free at the time. the reason i called out the engineer as mentioned in my earlier post is because its been 7 years now and silly old me didnt bother renewing the bloody guarantee



:thumbsup:

in terms of economy of buying cheaper machines.. I bought a hoover washer 5 years ago for £250. its now getting tired, the door is a bit of a pain to get it to acknowledge its shut, sometimes it doesn't drain, etc. anyway, its probably worth nothing. cost of ownership, £50 per year. I now get an upgrade to a nice shiney machine to last me the next 5 years, all good.

a miele on the other side, costs £500 new, lasts 10 years. has better features and is nicer to use when new, but after 5 years its a no better than the brand new hoover. after 10 years its dead. cost of ownership £50 per year

granted, either could last longer or not so long. the machines with 10 year warrantys are good, but work out at £80 per year, up to you to decide if its worth the cash or not

I have had my Zanussi washing machine for around 8 years now and (touch wood) I have had no problems with it.......the machine will last a lifetime if used how its meant to be..............I know so many people that overload the machine which over time will knacker it quicker

nihcaj;4338750

While I have been pummelled into buying better quality washing machines … While I have been pummelled into buying better quality washing machines and tumble driers after years of constant replacements of unreliable, noisy and ill-constructed cheap gear, Miele unfortunately don't seem to be as confident of their own equipment as the fans seem to be!2 years warranty isn't something that inspires me, for one reason, as good as it might be, you can ALWAYS get a duff one, it DOES happen with the best of machinery - if you get one, then you are not getting a lot of peace of mind that Mile will continue to sort it out :-(Also, for tumble drier users, such as myself - the 1300 spin isn't the best way to quick and economical drying, although for line users, it won't be quite as apparent. I would be looking for faster spin.See this for some interesting comments on the pros and cons of faster machines: http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wordpress/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency-figures-and-drying-costs/[btw, the pros and cons of this type of deal have been well discussed before, so I was trying to keep discussion to the SPECIFICS of this machine rather than the generalities which can be seen with a quick search!]



Last year our Bosch washer dryer packed up, we've had 2 in 9 years. The dryer was only used when our son was desperate for something that had just been washed to go out in.. Every second year something would go on them, so last year we took the plunge when it died again to stump up for a Miele. After some extensive research we decided on a washing machine W1714 and a separate dryer T7744c, at that time Dixons of all places were the cheapest using a discount code from here. We also got a Miele extended 5 year warranty for each thrown in as they were doing free extended warranties at the time of purchase.:whistling:

My Mrs is more than happy with the washing results and I am happy that the noise levels are much improved over the Bosch when at full spin speed.

We only wish we could've kitted out our kitchen with Miele equipment too.
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