Miele WDA101 A+++ 7kg 1400 Spin, Reduced from £649 to £549, @ coopelectrical
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Miele WDA101 A+++ 7kg 1400 Spin, Reduced from £649 to £549, @ coopelectrical

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Found 25th Dec 2015
This is the only Miele in Which magazine top ten best buys, and with £40 off voucher, and £30 cashback from Miele, plus 4% cashback from Quidco, and free delivery it can be bought for just under £457.

Go through Quidco for 4% off (approx £22)
Use code FMDA40 for £40 off.
Get £30 cashback from Miele.

Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, but tested to last 20 years.
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Brief excerpt from Which review.

We've come to expect outstanding clothes washing from Miele washing machines and that's exactly what the Best Buy WDA101 delivers. We were blown away with how well it cleans on both its cottons and synthetics settings. In the home this means that you can rest safe in the knowledge that whatever you load it with, the results will be good.




Edited by: "tryn2help" 25th Dec 2015
This make lasts for years and years, you get what you pay for. Heat added
Edited by: "summerof76" 25th Dec 2015
Voted cold, I can get 3 Beko's for that price.
dsuk

Voted cold, I can get 3 Beko's for that price.


Which will last about a year
Hot,Miele is the daddy of em all,anything else total rubbish in comparison.
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dsuk

Voted cold, I can get 3 Beko's for that price.


The main thing that puts me off Beko's is the stories I've read about them going on fire, more than most other makes.

Interestingly, according to the Fire Service, the appliance most likely to go on fire in homes is a washing machine oO

Also, no Beko washing machines make it into Which magazines' top 47 best buys - but five Beko's DO make it into the 'Don't buy' category.
summerof76

This make lasts for years and years, you get what you pay for. Heat added … This make lasts for years and years, you get what you pay for. Heat added



I've a Zanussi. Still going strong after 15 years.
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Kulaak

I've a Zanussi. Still going strong after 15 years.


Yes, Zanussi were and still are a good make, however they've also joined the crowd in making 'sealed drum' only models, which according to market commentators, deny access to bearings and so are uneconomical to repair - some might even say they're being built to fail, and thus force people to buy new machines.
tryn2help

Yes, Zanussi were and still are a good make, however they've also joined … Yes, Zanussi were and still are a good make, however they've also joined the crowd in making 'sealed drum' only models, which according to market commentators, deny access to bearings and so are uneconomical to repair - some might even say they're being built to fail, and thus force people to buy new machines.



I'm guessing it's a movement in design technology. Maybe they last (much) longer before they fail? Perhaps to a point where you'd consider a new machine over repair. Almost everything these days is becoming un-economical for repair.
Kulaak

I've a Zanussi. Still going strong after 15 years.


Thats good, bet they don't make them to last these days (_;)
dsuk

Voted cold, I can get 3 Beko's for that price.



​and both represent good value, miele will last much longer but you pay more.
Miele are ok I suppose.
Until you have a problem oO!
Heat added
tryn2help

Yes, Zanussi were and still are a good make, however they've also joined … Yes, Zanussi were and still are a good make, however they've also joined the crowd in making 'sealed drum' only models, which according to market commentators, deny access to bearings and so are uneconomical to repair - some might even say they're being built to fail, and thus force people to buy new machines.



Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now have sealed drums ) failing just months outside their 2 year warranty ie around the 30 months mark. Bosch claim there is no problem but those in the industry know otherwise.

Typically the bearing goes and, because it's sealed, the whole drum needs to be replaced at a cost of £200+.

If this happens to Bosch machines I would imagine it's more prevelant on budget makes.

However, the good news is that, if it happens to you, you should be able to use the Sale of Goods act to get some compensation as the machine did not last as long as would be reasonably expected.

As far as I know, this Miele system has a sealed drum. The only model that currently doesnt is the WDA210 which costs around the £800 mark and was recently being sold with 10 yr guarantee.


Edited by: "useless_57" 25th Dec 2015
Only Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, same as other manufactures like Bosch should be 5 years stanrdard at this price point.
JamesBonds

Only Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, same as other manufactures … Only Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, same as other manufactures like Bosch should be 5 years stanrdard at this price point.



Agreed. The product page, as does the opening post here, say "Tested to last 20 years". Good - give me a 20 year warranty. Otherwise they shouldn't make such a BS claim if they don't want to back it up. In fact, SOGA could be used as I was under the impression it would last around 20 years - not the 7 before it died!
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useless_57

Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now … Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now have sealed drums ) failing just months outside their 2 year warranty ie around the 30 months mark. Bosch claim there is no problem but those in the industry know otherwise. Typically the bearing goes and, because it's sealed, the whole drum needs to be replaced at a cost of £200+. If this happens to Bosch machines I would imagine it's more prevelant on budget makes. However, the good news is that, if it happens to you, you should be able to use the Sale of Goods act to get some compensation as the machine did not last as long as would be reasonably expected.As far as I know, this Miele system has a sealed drum. The only model that currently doesnt is the WDA210 which costs around the £800 mark and was recently being sold with 10 yr guarantee.


Thanks for your input, Useless57.
Hoping you're wrong about this unit being a sealed drum.

I got most of my info from here; which.co.uk/new…77/

. . . and, in that report they write that Miele were the only brand NOT to have sealed drums (it's in the para' titled 'Why design washing machines like this?.)?
Edited by: "tryn2help" 26th Dec 2015
JamesBonds

Only Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, same as other manufactures … Only Standard 2 years manufacturers guarantee, same as other manufactures like Bosch should be 5 years stanrdard at this price point.



Buy with a credit card and get six years by default
useless_57

Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now … Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now have sealed drums ) failing just months outside their 2 year warranty ie around the 30 months mark. Bosch claim there is no problem but those in the industry know otherwise



It's called planned obsolescence...
m5rcc

Buy with a credit card and get six years by default



doesn't understand how which card offers this?
JamesBonds

doesn't understand how which card offers this?



Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974
Hot, I have a Miele WDA111
m5rcc

Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974



You will definitely never get 6 years cover, but good luck trying it.
fishmaster

You will definitely never get 6 years cover, but good luck trying it.



Don't know much about UK law then. The Limitations Act (via Section 75) gives you up to six years after you bought a good to complain.

I just made a claim on a five year old Bosch fridge-freezer and got the full money back and consequential loss (food) on top from Natwest.
m5rcc

Don't know much about UK law then. The Limitations Act (via Section 75) … Don't know much about UK law then. The Limitations Act (via Section 75) gives you up to six years after you bought a good to complain.I just made a claim on a five year old Bosch fridge-freezer and got the full money back and consequential loss (food) on top from Natwest.



Why would Natwest compensate you? I've bought just about everything on a credit card, I'm going to literally complain about everything I've bought now, I'm sure I can find faults with everything I've bought. Cashing in big time kids, this is how it's done
fishmaster

Why would Natwest compensate you? I've bought just about everything on a … Why would Natwest compensate you? I've bought just about everything on a credit card, I'm going to literally complain about everything I've bought now, I'm sure I can find faults with everything I've bought. Cashing in big time kids, this is how it's done



Because it's the law. Not because Natwest is feeling generous.
In...literally oO X)

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Edited by: "maccy1" 25th Dec 2015
summerof76

Which will last about a year


You stick to your Beko's however make sure you tell your insurer. Don't ditch Miele washers if you've never owned one.
useless_57

Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now … Absolutely correct. Just look at the number of Bosch machines ( all now have sealed drums ) failing just months outside their 2 year warranty ie around the 30 months mark. Bosch claim there is no problem but those in the industry know otherwise. Typically the bearing goes and, because it's sealed, the whole drum needs to be replaced at a cost of £200+. If this happens to Bosch machines I would imagine it's more prevelant on budget makes. However, the good news is that, if it happens to you, you should be able to use the Sale of Goods act to get some compensation as the machine did not last as long as would be reasonably expected.As far as I know, this Miele system has a sealed drum. The only model that currently doesnt is the WDA210 which costs around the £800 mark and was recently being sold with 10 yr guarantee.


Hi, Where did you find this information about Bosch washers? Mine is only 26 months old and I think the bearings on mine are ready to go and I'm so mad!
m5rcc

Because it's the law. Not because Natwest is feeling generous.



The law says I can make up that something is broken and get compensated for it? Marvelous!
m5rcc

No - you'll need to prove it



How long does that take? Time = money.
fishmaster

How long does that take? Time = money.



Educate yourself. Besides, it seems you have too much time...
m5rcc

Educate yourself. Besides, it seems you have too much time...



As much time as the next person, how I chose to use it is no one else's business and what you think or anyone else think's about my usage of my time is none of my business
Sales of goods act allows someone to bring a claim against a seller of goods for up to 6 years if they have a fault that is down to manufacture rather than use

Section 75 makes the credit card company jointly liable with the retailer, as you are technically buying from the credit card company and they are buying from the retailer.

Within the first 6 months, the onus is on the retailer to prove the fault is down to use rather than design or manufacturers. After 6 months, the onus is on the buyer.

With sealed drums, one could argue that it is sealed at the factory and thus it is a design or manufacturing flaw under sale of goods act, using section 75 against the credit card company
Voted the deal hot by the way
SomebodE

Sales of goods act allows someone to bring a claim against a seller of … Sales of goods act allows someone to bring a claim against a seller of goods for up to 6 years if they have a fault that is down to manufacture rather than useSection 75 makes the credit card company jointly liable with the retailer, as you are technically buying from the credit card company and they are buying from the retailer.Within the first 6 months, the onus is on the retailer to prove the fault is down to use rather than design or manufacturers. After 6 months, the onus is on the buyer.With sealed drums, one could argue that it is sealed at the factory and thus it is a design or manufacturing flaw under sale of goods act, using section 75 against the credit card company



On a side note. Damn!
Purchased OnePlusOne on 20/6/2015 and it hasn't worked properly for 3 weeks, it's now 6 months and 6 days later
It was actually through PayPal and their disputes close 180 days after purchase. I probably didn't receive the goods until 23-26/6/2015. And looking at my PayPal funding source, it was the debit rather than the credit card. Double damn.

Edited by: "Firefly1" 26th Dec 2015
Buying through PayPal is different as it complicates the supplier customer chain with an agent in the middle. The section 75 cases where PayPal is used have generally failed.

My advice is to buy direct unless you have to use PayPal and even then ask yourself if you can buy elsewhere without PayPal if you value your section 75 right
Original Poster
Wow, glad I posted this deal now as I certainly didn't expect to get so much helpful information on machines, designs, buyers rights etc

Hopefully the info might even be of help to people who find themselves have problems with sealed drum units now - it would be great if they could be fully compensated.

Just like to thank everyone who has pitched in and contributed to making this thread so informative - thanks a lot peeps
summerof76

Which will last about a year



hey, that's a bit harsh. they will last at least a year each so 3 years.
I suppose the question is, why do sealed drums fail so soon?
Thanks for this offer was let down by John Lewis who were unable to deliver until 6th January, despite ordering 2 weeks ago. Co op delivering on Monday, no more trips to the launderette hurray!
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