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Miele WDB036, 7kg, 1400rpm Eco HomeCare Washing Machine A+++ Rating in White


Features- 7kg Capacity
- Honeycomb Drum and Cap Dosing
- Freestanding
- H 85.0 x W 60.0 x D 64.0 cm
- Price includes Delivery, Installation and Disposal of old product
2 yr Warranty
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New Miele's (at least the non high-end sub £1000 models) are starting to show minor corners being cut in the engineering department. But having had two, I don't think I'd bother with another brand bearing in mind how well they work and if they act up, parts are easily available and their construction indicates it's a machine designed to be repairable.

I had cause to recently take one apart purchased 5ish years ago, to replace the element which kept throwing the RCD (limescale build up and corrosion causing it to short). Original part sourced directly from Miele as a replacement kit ~£75 which was easy to fit, but your patience is a little tested by the time you get to it.

(Removal is done from the front of the washtub, but means you've got to remove the top cover, control panel, front metal panel with door & seal, which is no longer hinged to the main body and could not be swung out of the way as per yesteryear model. Element took 10 mins, the other faffing about took over an hour, and they have a couple of sacrificial parts but it's mainly metal you're dealing with).
Miele wanted £125 just for the call out fee and first hour of labour, then it's £75 per hour measured in increments of 6 minutes, plus cost of parts & VAT.

It's all well laid out, but they're starting to use slightly thinner steel than the previous low to mid-range model which gave about 18 years' service before the control board went bang when attempting to spin a feather&down duvet.

I don't expect these to last the 20+ years as those they were selling up until the early 00's, but just the ability to get OEM spares for these things without having to go to a middleman will save you money if you're a dab hand at DIY.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 21st Sep
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Is this £569.99 plus vat?
Edited by: "Georgedeals" 21st Sep
If u want a washing machine pay a little more by cheap by twice miele can take a battering I have had mine 25years runs twice a day most days never had one part replaced no a few people who have got miele washing machines to for 10years + no trouble too. In my opinion yes they are expensive but extremely well engineered.
Definitely worth the investment.
shame it's only 7kg
New Miele's (at least the non high-end sub £1000 models) are starting to show minor corners being cut in the engineering department. But having had two, I don't think I'd bother with another brand bearing in mind how well they work and if they act up, parts are easily available and their construction indicates it's a machine designed to be repairable.

I had cause to recently take one apart purchased 5ish years ago, to replace the element which kept throwing the RCD (limescale build up and corrosion causing it to short). Original part sourced directly from Miele as a replacement kit ~£75 which was easy to fit, but your patience is a little tested by the time you get to it.

(Removal is done from the front of the washtub, but means you've got to remove the top cover, control panel, front metal panel with door & seal, which is no longer hinged to the main body and could not be swung out of the way as per yesteryear model. Element took 10 mins, the other faffing about took over an hour, and they have a couple of sacrificial parts but it's mainly metal you're dealing with).
Miele wanted £125 just for the call out fee and first hour of labour, then it's £75 per hour measured in increments of 6 minutes, plus cost of parts & VAT.

It's all well laid out, but they're starting to use slightly thinner steel than the previous low to mid-range model which gave about 18 years' service before the control board went bang when attempting to spin a feather&down duvet.

I don't expect these to last the 20+ years as those they were selling up until the early 00's, but just the ability to get OEM spares for these things without having to go to a middleman will save you money if you're a dab hand at DIY.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 21st Sep
I bought one twenty years ago. It's done over 10 000 washes and still going (albeit a bit clunky now)! The only replacement part has been the rubber seal around the door. Which I bought and fitted myself from a third party seller. For about a third of the price of them doing it.
Trouble is these new ones aren’t made to last verified by two different engineers. (Don’t see any 10 year warranties anymore?!) I had one just replaced after 15 years and bought an old W8 series from the bay as recommended by a Miele engineer. Really not worth touching
ghandiranj21/09/2019 10:43

If u want a washing machine pay a little more by cheap by twice miele can …If u want a washing machine pay a little more by cheap by twice miele can take a battering I have had mine 25years runs twice a day most days never had one part replaced no a few people who have got miele washing machines to for 10years + no trouble too. In my opinion yes they are expensive but extremely well engineered.



Substitute Miele with any other brand and you'll find someone telling the same story. The point is, as others have said, that a 25 year old washing machine bears no resemblance to a new one.

If they're so confident about the reliability of these overpriced machines, why have they only got two year warranties?
My Miele 16 + years just had a service door boot, heater element, some other minor parts £250 including 1yrs warranty from Miele. Used probably 4 or more times a week.
Del_boy__21/09/2019 19:46

My Miele 16 + years just had a service door boot, heater element, some …My Miele 16 + years just had a service door boot, heater element, some other minor parts £250 including 1yrs warranty from Miele. Used probably 4 or more times a week.



See my comment immediately above yours...
Any reason why people prefer miele over LG? Personally can't justify 10kg LG at £375 with miele at this price for 7kg..
I've only had Miele. Although my father in law has a Phillips machine from the late 80's which only just stopped working!
Edited by: "spatter" 21st Sep
My Miele came with a 10yr warranty so fair point on the warranty comment
getknk21/09/2019 21:50

Any reason why people prefer miele over LG? Personally can't justify 10kg …Any reason why people prefer miele over LG? Personally can't justify 10kg LG at £375 with miele at this price for 7kg..


Miele are built, they claim, with a 20 year design life. That doesn't mean it will be fault free for 20 years - just that it's the anticipated working life. 10,000 hours is the claim.

Most machines are now built with a design life of around a third of that, or even less, so there is some sense to buying Miele.

Having said that, Miele repair costs are out of this world so if you happen to be unlucky enough to need repairs it's going to cost you dearly.

I have two Miele machines. Both have been reliable and both are very obviously well made. But I wouldn't buy one without the reassurance of the 10 year warranty. Sometimes it's included, sometimes an add-on, but there's a lot of peace of mind in it.
Newbold21/09/2019 23:09

Miele are built, they claim, with a 20 year design life. That doesn't …Miele are built, they claim, with a 20 year design life. That doesn't mean it will be fault free for 20 years - just that it's the anticipated working life. 10,000 hours is the claim.Most machines are now built with a design life of around a third of that, or even less, so there is some sense to buying Miele. Having said that, Miele repair costs are out of this world so if you happen to be unlucky enough to need repairs it's going to cost you dearly. I have two Miele machines. Both have been reliable and both are very obviously well made. But I wouldn't buy one without the reassurance of the 10 year warranty. Sometimes it's included, sometimes an add-on, but there's a lot of peace of mind in it.


As you say, it's a claim, and if that claim were believable they would have a warranty of more than two years as standard.
getknk21/09/2019 21:50

Any reason why people prefer miele over LG? Personally can't justify 10kg …Any reason why people prefer miele over LG? Personally can't justify 10kg LG at £375 with miele at this price for 7kg..


Don't know too much about the LG's, but let's start off with that annoying melody everytime you start/stop it.
Everybody's going to know the washer's on, so no good for those who like to wash covertly.

Mieles are good on these counts:
Honeycomb drum - very gentle cleaning action on fabrics, draining holes are miniscule so very little chance of fabric working through the hole to catch on potential edges, besides, they hand finish the drums to make sure there are no sharp edges.

Stainless steel outer tub that can be unbolted - invaluable if you need to open it all up to replace bearings.
Plastic tubs are cheap and some manufacturers deliberately make them unserviceable, bearings go - new machine. There are bodges like using silicon sealant, but it's just tempting fate on a machine that uses chemicals in hot water that vibrates.

Parts availability, online knowledge - easy to study up and do some preliminary fault finding yourself.

Cast iron counterweights - not the inferior cement (that can degrade over time and repeat vibration cycles), that most brands opt for.

Enameled paint finish is very hard wearing, doesn't yellow or flake off. Corrosion damage is not a likely ailment it will suffer from.

Multiple shock absorbers - better vibration control.

Intelligent wash electronics that monitor the expelled water to determine if another rinse cycle is required before going for the home "fabric conditioner" and final spin stretch.


But recently, Miele are starting to focus more on the aesthetics of the machine, think of it as the Dyson effect but for washing machines. All their machines used to have metal door surrounds, they're now being selective where that's deployed.
They've come up with funky lazy ways of dispensing the detergents - but it locks you into a repeat consumable business model as opposed to just buying a reliable machine.
So I'm not sure if Miele will continue down the gadgety route over quality.
They are good, but it looks like they are engineering obsolescence into their machines.
Every now and then they give out extended warranties on new machines as part of promotion drives. Some models get a 5 year motor warranty, others get 10.

They are bl dy expensive.

Blown electronic control panel - cost around £300 to replace.


LG:
Between Samsung and themselves - they pioneered Direct Drive washers, so less moving motor parts, no brushes to wear out, but I've read horrors stories that they're not all that well manufactured and can fry their circuits.
Guarantees of 10 years on the "Motor inverter" have been promoted, but it only covers the most robust part of the engineering concept. Sounds good on paper but if it were such a champion, why aren't others brands using the tech? If it were cost - Miele have their consumer prepared with their wallet just for saying their name.

Steam washing feature - their marketing seems to indicate an improved washing function. The other pro is a more sanitary machine if this option is used, bye bye bacteria. Presumably beefier element required to boil water to get to steam is another failure point. No idea how well the gubbins withstand UK's hard water.

Plastic outer tubs? Not sure. Most do, some don't.

Cheaper, or more 'features' for your money.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 22nd Sep
pibpob21/09/2019 23:16

As you say, it's a claim, and if that claim were believable they would …As you say, it's a claim, and if that claim were believable they would have a warranty of more than two years as standard.


The claim is genuine, I'm sure. Too much at stake if they're caught out lying.

Lifespan does not mean total reliability though.
Newbold21/09/2019 23:24

The claim is genuine, I'm sure. Too much at stake if they're caught out …The claim is genuine, I'm sure. Too much at stake if they're caught out lying.Lifespan does not mean total reliability though.


The claims are not provable, so they can say what they like without being caught out.
If you twist "lifespan" to mean "can keep them going with continual expensive repairs" then that is the antithesis of reliability and makes them extremely poor value for money, considering they're so pricey to begin with.
Not providing a decent warranty just shows they are not prepared to put their money where their mouth is.
Edited by: "pibpob" 21st Sep
pibpob21/09/2019 23:28

The claims are not provable, so they can say what they like without being …The claims are not provable, so they can say what they like without being caught out.If you twist "lifespan" to mean "can keep them going with continual expensive repairs" then that is the antithesis of reliability and makes them extremely poor value for money, considering they're so pricey to begin with.Not providing a decent warranty just shows they are not prepared to put their money where their mouth is.


Take a look at Which? - they disagree.
TopTrump21/09/2019 23:21

Don't know too much about the LG's, but let's start off with that annoying …Don't know too much about the LG's, but let's start off with that annoying melody everytime you start/stop it.Everybody's going to know the washer's on, so no good for those who like to wash covertly.Mieles are good on these counts:Honeycomb drum - very gentle cleaning action on fabrics, draining holes are miniscule so very little chance of fabric working through the hole to catch on potential edges, besides, they hand finish the drums to make sure there are no sharp edges.Stainless steel outer tub that can be unbolted - invaluable if you need to open it all up to replace bearings.Plastic tubs are cheap and some manufacturers deliberately make them unserviceable, bearings go - new machine. There are bodges like using silicon sealant, but it's just tempting fate on a machine that uses chemicals in hot water that vibrates.Parts availability, online knowledge - easy to study up and do some preliminary fault finding yourself.Cast iron counterweights - not the inferior cement (that can degrade over time and repeat vibration cycles), that most brands opt for.Enameled paint finish is very hard wearing, doesn't yellow or flake off. Corrosion damage is not a likely ailment it will suffer from.Multiple shock absorbers - better vibration control.Intelligent wash electronics that monitor the expelled water to determine if another rinse cycle is required before going for the home "fabric conditioner" and final spin stretch.But recently, Miele are starting to focus more on the aesthetics of the machine, think of it as the Dyson effect but for washing machines. All their machines used to have metal door surrounds, they're now being selective where that's deployed.They've come up with funky lazy ways of dispensing the detergents - but it locks you into a repeat consumable business model as opposed to just buying a reliable machine.So I'm not sure if Miele will continue down the gadgety route over quality.They are good, but it looks like they are engineering obsolescence into their machines.Every now and then they give out extended warranties on new machines as part of promotion drives. Some models get a 5 year motor warranty, others get 10.They are bl dy expensive.Blown control panel electronic panel - cost around £300 to replace.LG:Between Samsung and themselves - they pioneered Direct Drive washers, so less moving motor parts, no brushes to wear out, but I've read horrors stories that they're not all that well manufactured and can fry their circuits.Guarantees of 10 years on the "Motor inverter" have been promoted, but it only covers the most robust part of the engineering concept. Sounds good on paper but if it were such a champion, why aren't others brands using the tech? If it were cost - Miele have their consumer prepared with their wallet just for saying their name.Steam washing feature - their marketing seems to indicate an improved washing function. The other pro is a more sanitary machine if this option is used, bye bye bacteria. Presumably beefier element required to boil water to get to steam is another failure point. No idea how well the gubbins withstand UK's hard water.Plastic outer tubs? Not sure. Most do, some don't.Cheaper, or more 'features' for your money.



I didn't know you could still get a washing machine with brushes! Aren't they all inverter-driven brushless motors nowadays? Direct drive also slings a lot of extra weight on the drum bearings.

"Degrading" of concrete weights is a new one on me. Does that actually happen?

Other machines also have turbidity sensors which can adjust the programme depending on the condition of the water.

Better quality shock absorbers I can believe.
pibpob21/09/2019 23:43

I didn't know you could still get a washing machine with brushes! Aren't …I didn't know you could still get a washing machine with brushes! Aren't they all inverter-driven brushless motors nowadays? Direct drive also slings a lot of extra weight on the drum bearings."Degrading" of concrete weights is a new one on me. Does that actually happen?Other machines also have turbidity sensors which can adjust the programme depending on the condition of the water.Better quality shock absorbers I can believe.



Brushes - sure! Previous 1990's Miele had sprung mounted carbon motor brushes which you could change out yourself, and boy did you know when it was time to change them - they stank the place out!

DD and the extra weight - not something I'd considered, but you're right. At least with the old off-board motor and belt approach that's minimised - perhaps that's why the others havenae bothered.

Concrete falling off in clumps can happen on a machine that's had a hard life, in a humid environment, think tumble dryer sat next to poor ol' Mr. notamiele and all that water, steam, plus vibration - maybe they can use the recovered clumps to start building some affordable housing in the UK.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 21st Sep
There's a lot of late night washing machine knowledge here!
spatter21/09/2019 23:56

There's a lot of late night washing machine knowledge here!


Can't sleep, and the baby usually has prime spot in front of the washing machine.
Edited by: "TopTrump" 22nd Sep
Are these really worth it? you can currently get a British made 9kg Ebac E-Care+ washing machine with hot and cold fill, 1600rpm spin and 7 year warranty for £499.99. ebac.com/was…ne/
My recent Miele experience was pretty mediocre and it required some persistent hassling from me to get what I wanted.

I bought an integrated dishwasher in Oct 2106 (first used in Jan 2017) and it broke down 3 weeks ago. The code showed water leakage and over the phone assistance never got it working again.

It only came with a 2 year warranty but I argued that a family of 4 usage after 12 months would have been more than my 30 month usage. It fell on deaf ears and I was given the choice of:

a) £125 call out charge which included 1 hour labour and no parts, with extra labour charged at £75 per hour in 6 minute increments

b) £250 fee to get machine repaired and an extended warranty of 12 months.


I chose option b) and the guy turned up with a 50p washer stating that was the cure nearly 90% of the time. I felt like this was daylight robbery for £250.

Anyway when the engineer opened the dishwasher he quickly saw the problem was far more than replacing a washer. There is a tall plastic vessel that has water softener beads in it that had burst outwards causing the leak. The guy said he had never seen this before and reported it to Miele customer support whilst in my home. I was offered £125 refund and the 1 year warranty was to be honoured.

I had to wait 6 days for the part to turn up and in that time I had not received my refund (I had to pay the original £250 before first visit). When I complained that Miele are quick to take the £250 and slow to refund the £125 I was met with the normal trash that it can take x amount of days to organise a refund. It's simply not true, a refund can be arranged immediately if there is the desire to do so. I was put through to 'Miele Customer Excellence' department and I started the conversation by saying that there had been nothing excellent about my experience with Miele. I told the woman I was speaking with to take a look at their website and see if it portrays the issue I had with my dishwasher. I said because Miele had not refunded the £125 in a prompt manner I would now like a full refund because I believe that the machine was faulty from day 1. I told her that my intention was to keep the broken plastic vessel and get an independent report to confirm what I had pretty much been told by the Miele engineer.

She agreed that I had received a machine that has not performed well but that Miele are running a business and are not a charity. When I told her that Miele are indeed running a business, a business that is dependant on people like myself buying and paying high prices for quality items she understood where I was coming form. She stated that she would speak to their in-house engineer and come back to me within a few hours.

Within 60 mins I had a phone call stating that on this occasion the repair will be free of charge, the repair work will have a 12 month guarantee but the machine will not have an extended warranty of a further 12 months. I received my £250 refund within 24 hours. For £7.50 per month I can insure the machine via Domestic & General who will send out Miele engineer if work is required.

My point is that I believe I know how to stand my ground, I just feel that what I eventually ended up with is what I should have received without the fight. I know many people that would have just paid the £250 and moved on. As a long term Miele customer I will re-think what manufacturer I use next time
Edited by: "OllieSt" 22nd Sep
jordanc9322/09/2019 05:21

Are these really worth it? you can currently get a British made 9kg Ebac …Are these really worth it? you can currently get a British made 9kg Ebac E-Care+ washing machine with hot and cold fill, 1600rpm spin and 7 year warranty for £499.99. https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines/ecare-9kg-1600-spin-dual-fill-digital-washing-machine/


Hot fill washing machines are pretty pointless, if not counterproductive, in these days of low temperatures and low water use. Seems like it's a "nostalgia" machine appealing to when we washed our clothes on rocks in the river during the war...
Newbold21/09/2019 23:09

Miele are built, they claim, with a 20 year design life. That doesn't …Miele are built, they claim, with a 20 year design life. That doesn't mean it will be fault free for 20 years - just that it's the anticipated working life. 10,000 hours is the claim.Most machines are now built with a design life of around a third of that, or even less, so there is some sense to buying Miele. Having said that, Miele repair costs are out of this world so if you happen to be unlucky enough to need repairs it's going to cost you dearly. I have two Miele machines. Both have been reliable and both are very obviously well made. But I wouldn't buy one without the reassurance of the 10 year warranty. Sometimes it's included, sometimes an add-on, but there's a lot of peace of mind in it.


Fair enough. I feel technology will outpace every 4 years, so will go with cheaper option then
TopTrump21/09/2019 23:21

Don't know too much about the LG's, but let's start off with that annoying …Don't know too much about the LG's, but let's start off with that annoying melody everytime you start/stop it.Everybody's going to know the washer's on, so no good for those who like to wash covertly.Mieles are good on these counts:Honeycomb drum - very gentle cleaning action on fabrics, draining holes are miniscule so very little chance of fabric working through the hole to catch on potential edges, besides, they hand finish the drums to make sure there are no sharp edges.Stainless steel outer tub that can be unbolted - invaluable if you need to open it all up to replace bearings.Plastic tubs are cheap and some manufacturers deliberately make them unserviceable, bearings go - new machine. There are bodges like using silicon sealant, but it's just tempting fate on a machine that uses chemicals in hot water that vibrates.Parts availability, online knowledge - easy to study up and do some preliminary fault finding yourself.Cast iron counterweights - not the inferior cement (that can degrade over time and repeat vibration cycles), that most brands opt for.Enameled paint finish is very hard wearing, doesn't yellow or flake off. Corrosion damage is not a likely ailment it will suffer from.Multiple shock absorbers - better vibration control.Intelligent wash electronics that monitor the expelled water to determine if another rinse cycle is required before going for the home "fabric conditioner" and final spin stretch.But recently, Miele are starting to focus more on the aesthetics of the machine, think of it as the Dyson effect but for washing machines. All their machines used to have metal door surrounds, they're now being selective where that's deployed.They've come up with funky lazy ways of dispensing the detergents - but it locks you into a repeat consumable business model as opposed to just buying a reliable machine.So I'm not sure if Miele will continue down the gadgety route over quality.They are good, but it looks like they are engineering obsolescence into their machines.Every now and then they give out extended warranties on new machines as part of promotion drives. Some models get a 5 year motor warranty, others get 10.They are bl dy expensive.Blown control panel electronic panel - cost around £300 to replace.LG:Between Samsung and themselves - they pioneered Direct Drive washers, so less moving motor parts, no brushes to wear out, but I've read horrors stories that they're not all that well manufactured and can fry their circuits.Guarantees of 10 years on the "Motor inverter" have been promoted, but it only covers the most robust part of the engineering concept. Sounds good on paper but if it were such a champion, why aren't others brands using the tech? If it were cost - Miele have their consumer prepared with their wallet just for saying their name.Steam washing feature - their marketing seems to indicate an improved washing function. The other pro is a more sanitary machine if this option is used, bye bye bacteria. Presumably beefier element required to boil water to get to steam is another failure point. No idea how well the gubbins withstand UK's hard water.Plastic outer tubs? Not sure. Most do, some don't.Cheaper, or more 'features' for your money.


Great details. Upvoted
TopTrump21/09/2019 23:48

Brushes - sure! Previous 1990's Miele had sprung mounted carbon motor …Brushes - sure! Previous 1990's Miele had sprung mounted carbon motor brushes which you could change out yourself, and boy did you know when it was time to change them - they stank the place out!DD and the extra weight - not something I'd considered, but you're right. At least with the old off-board motor and belt approach that's minimised - perhaps that's why the others havenae bothered.Concrete falling off in clumps can happen on a machine that's had a hard life, in a humid environment, think tumble dryer sat next to poor ol' Mr. notamiele and all that water, steam, plus vibration - maybe they can use the recovered clumps to start building some affordable housing in the UK.


I always cite this in relation to direct drive motors. Despite the desperate marketing, direct drive does not equal brushless as there are many brushless (variable frequency drive) motors in conventional washing machines nowadays. And belts do not spend their time snapping or making loud noises.
pibpob22/09/2019 10:25

I always cite this in relation to direct drive motors. Despite the …I always cite this in relation to direct drive motors. Despite the desperate marketing, direct drive does not equal brushless as there are many brushless (variable frequency drive) motors in conventional washing machines nowadays. And belts do not spend their time snapping or making loud noises.



turbidity sensor - YOU MADE ME look it up!
Learnt something today. Ta.

And the article on Direct Drive helps clarify things.
Direct Drive branding on washing machines gives the impression that it's a newer generation of motor, one that's brushless.
But re-reading the actual words after reading your linked article, "Direct Drive" it is obvious in washing machines it can simply describe that the motor is mounted directly to the drum. It's that impression of a digital motor (damn you Dyson!) brushless motor the marketing relies on creating an impression of furnishing the machine with a more expensive brushless motor when that's not likely to be the case on comptetively priced models.
With all the bulk bolted to the drum, the less deep nature of the drum itself, and the greater rise to potential balancing problems - that's what cream-crackers a washing machine.

Then there's the improved "scrubbing" action some manufacturers like to talk about which is marketing speak for 'your clothes will wear out quicker in our machine'.

Anyway, talking of Dyson, what happened to his counter-rotating drums concept disaster? Or has he found a babbling brook in the purer waters of Singapore, pounding his tweed against the rocks to try and make himself look presentable for his next board meeting?
Edited by: "TopTrump" 22nd Sep
TopTrump22/09/2019 12:29

Looks like Miele washing machine-itus is …Looks like Miele washing machine-itus is spreading.https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/miele-washing-washing-machines-and-other-stuff-10-off-marks-electrical-3298067?pprmrkntfctnsrd=270935972&UATypeId=11


Good deals too. Including one with a 10 year warranty for a net £789.
pibpob22/09/2019 09:57

Hot fill washing machines are pretty pointless, if not counterproductive, …Hot fill washing machines are pretty pointless, if not counterproductive, in these days of low temperatures and low water use. Seems like it's a "nostalgia" machine appealing to when we washed our clothes on rocks in the river during the war...


You don't have to get it with hot and cold fill. They do the same model with cold fill only for £450 with 7 year guarantee much better than this deal which only comes with 2 years
TopTrump22/09/2019 11:54

turbidity sensor - YOU MADE ME look it up!Learnt something today. Ta.And …turbidity sensor - YOU MADE ME look it up!Learnt something today. Ta.And the article on Direct Drive helps clarify things.Direct Drive branding on washing machines gives the impression that it's a newer generation of motor, one that's brushless.But re-reading the actual words after reading your linked article, "Direct Drive" it is obvious in washing machines it can simply describe that the motor is mounted directly to the drum. It's that impression of a digital motor (damn you Dyson!) brushless motor the marketing relies on creating an impression of furnishing the machine with a more expensive brushless motor when that's not likely to be the case on comptetively priced models.With all the bulk bolted to the drum, the less deep nature of the drum itself, and the greater rise to potential balancing problems - that's what cream-crackers a washing machine.Then there's the improved "scrubbing" action some manufacturers like to talk about which is marketing speak for 'your clothes will wear out quicker in our machine'.Anyway, talking of Dyson, what happened to his counter-rotating drums concept disaster? Or has he found a babbling brook in the purer waters of Singapore, pounding his tweed against the rocks to try and make himself look presentable for his next board meeting?


The problem with the Dyson Contrarotator Washing machine was who wanted to spend a £1000 on one when even the decent brands of the time such as bosch were well established and cost about half of what the Dyson did.
jordanc9322/09/2019 19:02

The problem with the Dyson Contrarotator Washing machine was who wanted to …The problem with the Dyson Contrarotator Washing machine was who wanted to spend a £1000 on one when even the decent brands of the time such as bosch were well established and cost about half of what the Dyson did.


Not sure that was the problem, as Dyson has successfully persuaded the gullible to part with hundreds of quid for a desk fan.

I think it was more that they ripped your clothes to pieces.

Edit: no, apparently they lost too much money on them.
Edited by: "pibpob" 22nd Sep
jordanc9322/09/2019 13:47

You don't have to get it with hot and cold fill. They do the same model …You don't have to get it with hot and cold fill. They do the same model with cold fill only for £450 with 7 year guarantee much better than this deal which only comes with 2 years



I agree that the guarantee is reassuring, for something with so many moving parts.
pibpob22/09/2019 19:13

Not sure that was the problem, as Dyson has successfully persuaded the …Not sure that was the problem, as Dyson has successfully persuaded the gullible to part with hundreds of quid for a desk fan.I think it was more that they ripped your clothes to pieces.


I don't know I think the pricing was part of the problem do you really want to spend £1000 on washing machine from a company that has only made vacuums previously. Similar thing happened to Dyson's original robot vacuum £3000-£4000 was to much for the average consumer.
I HATE DYSON!
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