Mizani Ar7 road bike £299.97 at Halfords, any good?
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Mizani Ar7 road bike £299.97 at Halfords, any good?

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Found 29th Jun 2017Edited by:"MackF"
First time posting a deal, but spotted this on Halfords website, seems like a nice bike, I'm wondering if anyone else thought so too?


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deleted50862
Not bad to get Shimano Sora at this price, 23mm tyres are a little silly but they could be swapped out assuming there is clearance
cut_la_roc

Not bad to get Shimano Sora at this price, 23mm tyres are a little silly … Not bad to get Shimano Sora at this price, 23mm tyres are a little silly but they could be swapped out assuming there is clearance



"​23mm tyres are a little silly".., why ? Where is the silly point ?
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23mm tyres are still pretty ubiquitous, and to be honest despite the hype don't make much difference to 25mm tyres so no idea why someone would say they are "a little silly".

Never heard of the brand but the spec looks excellent for the price.
The spec isn't bad at all for the price but it's a completely unknown brand, probably repainted generic. I only ever ride 23mm tyres on my 3000+ miles a year so not sure why they are "silly"
It looks like a good deal to me. Good spec, carbon forks, even the saddle looks OK.
Looks solid for the budget price of £299. Carbon fork, frame geometry looks good. Full Sora groupset (older version but works well). No complaints at this price. Cheap to change tyres to something nicer & maybe maybe brake pads as I recall the standard sora not great stoppers if going fast but would just run it as it is short term over summer.
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deleted50862
Let me define "silly" as it seems to have provoked a reaction!

Less comfort
Less grip
Greater risk of puncture
Higher rolling resistance

When compared to 25 or 28mm tyres. I've found switching to 28s from 25mm tyres a big difference in comfort due to the larger tyre volume and running lower pressures.
cut_la_roc

Let me define "silly" as it seems to have provoked a reaction! Less … Let me define "silly" as it seems to have provoked a reaction! Less comfortLess gripGreater risk of puncture Higher rolling resistance When compared to 25 or 28mm tyres. I've found switching to 28s from 25mm tyres a big difference in comfort due to the larger tyre volume and running lower pressures.



Cool.
You should drop a note to Team Sky to let them know that they should be running fatter tyres at a lower pressure.
I think you might be on to something.
Good find for an alloy frame bike with a carbon fork, compared to Decathlon's Triban 500se at the same price, this one has higher spec Sora 9 speed gears and shifters.
Rogier_Arpignot

Cool.You should drop a note to Team Sky to let them know that they should … Cool.You should drop a note to Team Sky to let them know that they should be running fatter tyres at a lower pressure.I think you might be on to something.



​That will be because Team Sky are using £300 bikes from Halfords right?

You'll notice that cut_la_roc did not mention aero, which is the only reason you might consider 23mm.

Cut_la_roc is right on all counts. 25mm or 28mm are the way to go for 99.9% of road cyclists.
I noticed the frame size is only 54 or 56cm I am quite tall, over 6ft with inside leg 33, most bike shops suggest a frame size 59cm+ for their bikes, this one says I can use the 56.. What's the likely reality? Figured I'd get some advice before I risk wasting time to check one out in person if it's likely to not fit me.
MackF

I noticed the frame size is only 54 or 56cm I am quite tall, over 6ft … I noticed the frame size is only 54 or 56cm I am quite tall, over 6ft with inside leg 33, most bike shops suggest a frame size 59cm+ for their bikes, this one says I can use the 56.. What's the likely reality? Figured I'd get some advice before I risk wasting time to check one out in person if it's likely to not fit me.



Depends I'm 6ft and my commute bike is a 57cm for a nice relaxing ride. My other bike is a 54cm but set up much more aggressively.
Wiggo as an example is 6ft3/4 and rides a 56cm bike and has massively long legs. There are your riders that are getting on for 6ft that ride tiny 52cm bikes. A 56cm should be fine with a semi aggressive setup. If you are not used to road bikes your back shoulders and wrists will hurt at first anyway.

But as always go test one out.
MackF

I noticed the frame size is only 54 or 56cm I am quite tall, over 6ft … I noticed the frame size is only 54 or 56cm I am quite tall, over 6ft with inside leg 33, most bike shops suggest a frame size 59cm+ for their bikes, this one says I can use the 56.. What's the likely reality? Figured I'd get some advice before I risk wasting time to check one out in person if it's likely to not fit me.



I'm 6ft 1in, 34in inside leg. I ride a 56.
I use 23mm tyres all the time. I used them for a ride on Saturday where I did 220 miles as did many of my cycling mates. where do some get you're duff info from?
Silly my a***
Rogier_Arpignot

Cool.You should drop a note to Team Sky to let them know that they should … Cool.You should drop a note to Team Sky to let them know that they should be running fatter tyres at a lower pressure.I think you might be on to something.




errrr......
bikeradar.com/roa…17/
"Tubulars: Continental Competition, 25mm"
chrisbass

errrr......http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/article/geraint-thomas-2016-team-sky-pinarello-dogma-f8-46217/"Tubulars: Continental Competition, 25mm"



Most teams moved to 24mm or 25mm from 2016. Although some used slimmer ones on time trial stages.

On a £300 bike you might as well use them until they need replacing then choose whatever suits your needs.
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The point is that 23mm tyres aren't "silly". The difference in comfort, grip, rolling resistance etc is marginal between 23mm and 25mm tyres and depends on a whole range of factors. The chosen brand/type of tyre and the width/type of the wheelset will make a far bigger difference to ride quality and speed than 2mm of surface area. I have just changed from 23mm to 25mm tyres myself (different brands but similar quality) and if I wouldn't know I'd swapped.

Maybe the tyres fitted on the bike are crap, but make sure it actually has clearance to fit 25mm tyres before buying them. The end.
People might actually be put off buying this because of all of the negative talk regarding the tyres, but if you look at this bike it suggests 23mm tyres are nothing to lose sleep over, and it's currently Evans Cycles best selling road/race bike evanscycles.com/bmc…467
GAVINLEWISHUKD

Most teams moved to 24mm or 25mm from 2016. Although some used slimmer … Most teams moved to 24mm or 25mm from 2016. Although some used slimmer ones on time trial stages.On a £300 bike you might as well use them until they need replacing then choose whatever suits your needs.



I completely agree I was just correcting the guy above.
some good and interesting feedback, I might have to find a shop that's stocking one and go and check the bike out
Sorry to hijack this thread, but looking for my first road bike and whilst looking at this bike I also looked at the next model up. Would this be good value with then 105 groupset?

halfords.com/cyc…ike

All new to this so not sure
Scooter010

Sorry to hijack this thread, but looking for my first road bike and … Sorry to hijack this thread, but looking for my first road bike and whilst looking at this bike I also looked at the next model up. Would this be good value with then 105 groupset?http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/road-bikes/mizani-ar9-mens-road-bikeAll new to this so not sure


It depends on what you are going to do with it, it seems OK for the price (even though it does have the previous gen 105 groupset), but it only has 11-25 rear cassette so you might struggle going up steep hills. I would personally look for a bike which has an 11-32 rear cassette if it is your first road bike.
perfectmark

It depends on what you are going to do with it, it seems OK for the price … It depends on what you are going to do with it, it seems OK for the price (even though it does have the previous gen 105 groupset), but it only has 11-25 rear cassette so you might struggle going up steep hills. I would personally look for a bike which has an 11-32 rear cassette if it is your first road bike.



Thanks for the advice, it is quite hilly where I live so I think I'll keep looking.

Cheers
Nice curved frame like a Specialized, sub 10 kg weight and B'Twin Triban 3 specs and price! cyclingweekly.com/rev…-99
Bought this week weeks ago, swapped the stock cassette and tires and good to go

Only problem is that it doesn't come with a Sora Chainset as shown in the picture, but a Tourney one instead.
The cassette also made by an unknown manufacturer, the wheel also come with cheap Quando hubs
As a side note, you cant get anything wider than a 25mm on this, with a 25mm there is barely any clearance at the rear
killer12118 h, 34 m ago

Bought this week weeks ago, swapped the stock cassette and tires and good …Bought this week weeks ago, swapped the stock cassette and tires and good to goOnly problem is that it doesn't come with a Sora Chainset as shown in the picture, but a Tourney one instead.The cassette also made by an unknown manufacturer, the wheel also come with cheap Quando hubs


So the advert is wrong regarding it's gears? it's not a shimano sora set up? That's disappointing. Also could be seen as false advertising lol
MackF

So the advert is wrong regarding it's gears? it's not a shimano sora set … So the advert is wrong regarding it's gears? it's not a shimano sora set up? That's disappointing. Also could be seen as false advertising lol


They have it on the brakes, levers, and derailleurs, but that's it.
Seem like they try to cut every corner there is to lower the cost.
The description states a DNP 9 speed freewheel so is this some cheap solution to use cheap wheels and fool people into letting them assume they are getting cassette based gearing. I remember reading that higher number of gears was impractical with freewheels due to their tendency to wobble and the minimal spacing of gears so i would suspect the gears could be problematic especially with a double chainset. Who are DNP anyway sounds like a low end generic chinese product. I'm a great fan of Halfords but more their Carrera bikes when on offer. At this price surely the Triban 500SE is the far better deal even with its microshift gearing. The Triban 500SE spec seems more well judged to me. I don't expect to pay £300 for a road bike and get a freewheel. I bought a £65 Vertigo Carnaby race bike and even that had a cassette based rear wheel. Maybe the description is just wrong but a quick look here shows a DNP 9 speed freewheel does exist. The benefits of cassette gearing normally is its much stronger, longer life, cleaner shifting and more flexibility with changing gear ratios etc. Certainly you won't have much choice of 9 speed freewheels as I don't think the decent manufacturers make them at all its just DNP and sunrace. Ride the bike straight off a pavement and its easy to bend the axle in a freewheel based hub unless it has a very high quality hardened axle as used in some BMX bikes or you are a light rider. A slight bend in the axle will give more freewheel wobble and you'll have more difficulty getting the gears working right and it could just be a lot of frustration which you could have avoided completely by going with the Triban 500SE at the same price. It's 24 gears will probably work much more accurately for longer than this model's 18 gears.

sjscycles.co.uk/fre…4t/
Also bear in mind that the best bike sales normally occure about late August into September where retailers need to clear stock of this years model to make way for next years. Not good if you desperately need a new bike now but if you are looking to upgrade it may be worth waiting a few weeks.
Thank you for that insight, I'm such a noob on bikes I just like the ones that look "cool" haha.
Flash sale tomorrow on cycling between 8-10pm (11th July) with 20% discount. Don't forget to also use topcashback for a further 3% cashback. It's unlikely to double up with the existing 20% discount the benefit here is the 20% is applied to bikes not normally discounted.

The road bikes I like/recommend would be the Carrera Virtuoso

halfords.com/cyc…ike

It's a cassette based/claris road bike but has high tensile steel forks. I prefer steel over carbon myself due to greater durability and lifespan. Normall £325 but with 20% off would be £260 and you might get another £6-7 cashback.

There is also the Carrera Vanquish Disc with carbon forks and disc brakes. Normally £425 so £340 and another £9 approx back in cashback.

halfords.com/cyc…ack

My personal favourite is the Voodoo Limba which also at £425 will be £340 plus £9 cashback. This is a heavy duty cyclocross bike with chromoly forks. A great bike for fast commuting, coping with rough roads and even off road and still competitive with many other road bikes. Disc braking again adds to safety. A very good spec at a great price.

halfords.com/cyc…ike

If your buying don't forget to go through topcashback and be on the site close to 8pm and get your bike and check out quickly there may be limited bikes available discounted.


It do actually come with a cassette/free hub setup rather than a free wheel, however the cassette is still provided by DNP and the free hub from Quando
killer12122 m ago

It do actually come with a cassette/free hub setup rather than a free …It do actually come with a cassette/free hub setup rather than a free wheel, however the cassette is still provided by DNP and the free hub from Quando


As you can see from my original comment I wasn't sure. I took the Halfords text to be accurate and therefore checked to see if a DNP 9 speed freewheel existed which it did. Unless of course there is a mixture of bikes out there some with freewheels and some with cassettes, in which case they would have to describe the bike with the weaker components I guess. I'm not against Quando freehubs though some of which are pretty good for entry level and a damn site better than having a freewheel. As for DNP cassettes I'm unsure of their quality, it may simply be they are fit for purpose but just wear a bit quicker than the better brands.


I've just ordered this. It looks a great deal and certainly the best specced road bike around at this price. Looking forward to it arriving.
perfectmark

It depends on what you are going to do with it, it seems OK for the price … It depends on what you are going to do with it, it seems OK for the price (even though it does have the previous gen 105 groupset), but it only has 11-25 rear cassette so you might struggle going up steep hills. I would personally look for a bike which has an 11-32 rear cassette if it is your first road bike.



Changing from 11-25 to 11-32. I take it you'd need to change to a mid-cage rear derailleur too?
canguro73

Changing from 11-25 to 11-32. I take it you'd need to change to a … Changing from 11-25 to 11-32. I take it you'd need to change to a mid-cage rear derailleur too?


This bike do come with a medium cage rear mech.
You can fit a 1132 with a short cage, but it is not recommended. You will get a extreme tight chain when running big big
Got mine delivered. Disappointed to find a Tourney chainset rather than the Sora one it's advertised with. The Tourney chainset is 8 speed so it seems odd to build a 9 speed bike with this. I'm also concerned that the chain may be an 8 speed as it looks thick and very close to other sprockets on the cassette. Other than the mismatched drivetrain it's a great bike and rides great. I've messaged the seller through Halfords and emailed them direct but so far no response. Hope they'll send a Sora chainset and then it'll be great but it's annoying because otherwise I'm gonna have to buy a chainset and chain just to make the bike shift smoothly and work like it should.
rmax125 m ago

Got mine delivered. Disappointed to find a Tourney chainset rather than …Got mine delivered. Disappointed to find a Tourney chainset rather than the Sora one it's advertised with. The Tourney chainset is 8 speed so it seems odd to build a 9 speed bike with this. I'm also concerned that the chain may be an 8 speed as it looks thick and very close to other sprockets on the cassette. Other than the mismatched drivetrain it's a great bike and rides great. I've messaged the seller through Halfords and emailed them direct but so far no response. Hope they'll send a Sora chainset and then it'll be great but it's annoying because otherwise I'm gonna have to buy a chainset and chain just to make the bike shift smoothly and work like it should.


Well if its not as described then you shouldn't have to pay for a different chainset. I would of thought it would be all tested and fit for purpose though so if it works well currently no reason it won't continue to do so.
This looks like a very good deal especially with Sora gearset and coming in at 9.5 kg and despite the criticism of 23mm tyres here, they are still the best. Indeed I swapped the 25mm Zaffira tyres for 23mm Lugano's on my Boardman Sportive and made an enormous difference to speed.
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