Motorola Moto G5S Plus at Amazon UK for £259.00 - Available in Lunar Grey or Blush Gold
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Motorola Moto G5S Plus at Amazon UK for £259.00 - Available in Lunar Grey or Blush Gold

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Found 5th Aug 2017Edited by:"TheHun6"
This item comes with Amazon preorder price guarantee which means that if any time between ordering and delivery the price drops, you are guaranteed the lowest price. Those who ordered within the first week have already benefitted from this when for a few hours on 11 August 2017 the price temporarily dropped to £200.82.

Here's the link for the gold version:

amazon.co.uk/Mot…NLC

The first UK outlet available to pre-order.

Motorola have just announced the release of two special editions in the Moto G Series. The Moto G5S and the Moto G5S Plus.

For just £10 more than the standard Moto G5 Plus you get everything as before plus the following 5 extra enhancements:

The rear camera is now dual lens and gets a boost to 13 megapixels
The front camera has been boosted from 5 to 8 megapixels
The screen size has been increased from 5.2 inches to 5.5 inches
For the first time the body is all-metal including the sides
You get Android 7.1 out of the box instead of Android 7.0

All other specs are as before, which sadly means still no magnetometer (compass)
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And still no compass I assume?
relicpower7 m ago

And still no compass I assume?

Nope still no compass
Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of downloading one off playstore? Or more complex than that?
kaymate26 m ago

Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of …Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of downloading one off playstore? Or more complex than that?

Well Said...some of these folks on here really do like the sound of their own opinions...and the funniest part of all...when someone comes back with an absolute Common Sense response - like yours I will bet we won't hear from the said person...but m open...I 110% Agree with you
relicpower1 h, 14 m ago

And still no compass I assume?

So relicpower...its back to you see comments above...
kaymate33 m ago

Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of …Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of downloading one off playstore? Or more complex than that?


The phone doesn't know which direction it's facing, it's a nuisance for maps/navigation.
(I've got a G4 and it's the only thing I dislike about the device).
Play pokemon go on my G4 never missed a pokemon due to no compass, never got lost using waze or google maps. Its really not on issue.

Would only be issue if in plane crash in middle rain forest, and have paper map to hand and need a compass for manual navigation.
Edited by: "blueflash" 5th Aug 2017
blueflash1 h, 2 m ago

Play pokemon go on my G4 never missed a pokemon due to no compass, never …Play pokemon go on my G4 never missed a pokemon due to no compass, never got lost using waze or google maps. Its really not on issue.Would only be issue if in plane crash in middle rain forest, and have paper map to hand and need a compass for manual navigation.


I thought it meant that in sat nav aps it can't tell what way you are pointing - surely annoying (as others have confirmed)?
Sorry OP, voting cold as I only like normal grey! : ) [Joking - not voting as I don't know if this is hot or not]

Do they really think that anyone will buy a phone off the back of the fact it is lunar grey? Strikes me as sad.
A compass is essential if you want to go Geo caching. Not sure why they drop it cost's are negligible and does make a difference with OS Maps.
Vodafone smart v8 much better and less expensive
kaymate2 h, 28 m ago

Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of …Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of downloading one off playstore? Or more complex than that?

If your phone does not come with a camera lens downloading an app will not let you take pictures. Same for compass! The sensor has to be inside the phone.
jnm2132 m ago

I thought it meant that in sat nav aps it can't tell what way you are …I thought it meant that in sat nav aps it can't tell what way you are pointing - surely annoying (as others have confirmed)?

Nope uses gps to show which way your heading, so even just walking along a street is enough to update the gps to show directions. If using navigation just follow the blue line. No issues at all, no idea how people could get lost using sat nav
If you are a student you would be better off waiting for it to appear on the Moto site as you can get 10% off. There is also the £10 off UKWELCOME10 code for new customers
MBeeching2 h, 1 m ago

The phone doesn't know which direction it's facing, it's a nuisance for …The phone doesn't know which direction it's facing, it's a nuisance for maps/navigation.(I've got a G4 and it's the only thing I dislike about the device).

The phone does not need a compass for maps, once you start driving it knows your direction via gps. Sat navs like Tom Tom don't have a compass.
Says 'the screen has been increased from 5.2 to 5.5' like that's always a positive. I purposefully bought a Google Pixel 5" on the basis it was a 5inch phone, feeling this for any phone is the perfect size. Those phablet type phones are repugnant.
Robjh5th Aug 2017

Well Said...some of these folks on here really do like the sound of their …Well Said...some of these folks on here really do like the sound of their own opinions...and the funniest part of all...when someone comes back with an absolute Common Sense response - like yours I will bet we won't hear from the said person...but m open...I 110% Agree with you


I thought compass was a physical hardware and not software? Can this be downloaded?
Robjh5th Aug 2017

Well Said...some of these folks on here really do like the sound of their …Well Said...some of these folks on here really do like the sound of their own opinions...and the funniest part of all...when someone comes back with an absolute Common Sense response - like yours I will bet we won't hear from the said person...but m open...I 110% Agree with you


Epic fail. Compass tells you what direction your're facing when using an app like google maps. If your're looking for a location on foot the compass tells you which direction your're heading (pointed arrow or beacon). Without a compass your're just a blue dot on a map.
Edited by: "RiverDragon8" 5th Aug 2017
The compass is hardware, not software. You can't simply download a compass.

People who don't use maps for walking aren't likely to be too bothered about a compass. However, it can also help when using the handset as a sat nav. If connection to the satellites fails for any reason, the compass is used to help the phone direct you until GPS is restored.

It's a basic and cheap component that's available on a number of vastly cheaper handsets. Lenovo are penny pinching by not including it.

oyster071 h, 12 m ago

I thought compass was a physical hardware and not software? Can this be …I thought compass was a physical hardware and not software? Can this be downloaded?

chancooluk28 m ago

The compass is hardware, not software. You can't simply download a …The compass is hardware, not software. You can't simply download a compass.People who don't use maps for walking aren't likely to be too bothered about a compass. However, it can also help when using the handset as a sat nav. If connection to the satellites fails for any reason, the compass is used to help the phone direct you until GPS is restored.It's a basic and cheap component that's available on a number of vastly cheaper handsets. Lenovo are penny pinching by not including it.


Lenovo include a compass of the US line of MotoG's. The decision to omit this feature in all other regions, especially emerging markets where some one is far more likely to navigate on foot is just plain bizarre.

A bit ago now The Gadget Show did a episode of old tech vs new tech think John hand an old Iphone and Ortis a MotoG, part of the challenge was navigating on foot and while the MotoG has a gps you don't actually know which direction to head in until you start moving so Ortis was running round like a headless chicken only realising he was heading in completely the wrong direction when the gps updated. To be clear this isn't so much of an issue when driving but it is for walking.
Regarding compass it isn't a big deal unless you are using something like SkyMap. With Google Maps it works out the direction you are travelling from GPS after you have walked a few meters. It's definitely penny pinching leaving it out but isn't a massive deal.

If you're that fussed wait a few months for the Moto X4 which will be a bit more expensive. I'll probably just get this in the mean time and sell it if the X4 is any good.
snuff25 m ago

Lenovo include a compass of the US line of MotoG's. The decision to omit …Lenovo include a compass of the US line of MotoG's. The decision to omit this feature in all other regions, especially emerging markets where some one is far more likely to navigate on foot is just plain bizarre. A bit ago now The Gadget Show did a episode of old tech vs new tech think John hand an old Iphone and Ortis a MotoG, part of the challenge was navigating on foot and while the MotoG has a gps you don't actually know which direction to head in until you start moving so Ortis was running round like a headless chicken only realising he was heading in completely the wrong direction when the gps updated. To be clear this isn't so much of an issue when driving but it is for walking.


Yes it's very odd. It's similar to their inclusion or omission of NFC in certain markets. NFC chips cost pennies to implement.

The new Moto E4 is a weird one too, some regions have an all plastic variant powered by a snapdragon processor, whereas other regions have a metal design powered by mediatek. Buying a case for the Moto E4 is difficult because the variations are different sizes and have different port placements.

I would have thought that it would be far simpler and cheaper for them to simply make 1 variant of each model, and just have different firmware for each region, rather than creating dozens of slightly different handsets.
chancooluk20 m ago

Yes it's very odd. It's similar to their inclusion or omission of NFC in …Yes it's very odd. It's similar to their inclusion or omission of NFC in certain markets. NFC chips cost pennies to implement.The new Moto E4 is a weird one too, some regions have an all plastic variant powered by a snapdragon processor, whereas other regions have a metal design powered by mediatek. Buying a case for the Moto E4 is difficult because the variations are different sizes and have different port placements.I would have thought that it would be far simpler and cheaper for them to simply make 1 variant of each model, and just have different firmware for each region, rather than creating dozens of slightly different handsets.



Mediatek powered CPU's are aimed for the Asian market, That's why there's 2 variants of the same model.
Edited by: "RiverDragon8" 5th Aug 2017
lukec1232 h, 59 m ago

If you are a student you would be better off waiting for it to appear on …If you are a student you would be better off waiting for it to appear on the Moto site as you can get 10% off. There is also the £10 off UKWELCOME10 code for new customers


You would then be at the mercy of Motorola if anything goes wrong and their customer service is abysmal.
RiverDragon814 m ago

Mediatek powered CPU's are aimed for the Asian market.



The UK & European variant of the Moto E4 uses a Mediatek processor, whereas its a Snapdragon in the US.
chancooluk12 m ago

The UK & European variant of the Moto E4 uses a Mediatek processor, …The UK & European variant of the Moto E4 uses a Mediatek processor, whereas its a Snapdragon in the US.


Ordinarily this is the case. Or they put Mediatek CPU's in the lower end models i.e Sony have started doing this.
The lack of compass is no problem in the car but you try walking around London, New York or another city with tall buildings that causes GPS to be unreliable and slow. When you first walk following the map direction you can easily walk for 5 minutes before the map flips and you find you're going the wrong way. It's an utter irratation and I've gone around in circles in London and the USA while site seeing and such like. If you're lucky you can quickly get a decent GPS lock and use the maps to determine your direction and you're good to go but it's still utterly awful compared to having a compass in the phone which points the arrow as you move whereas this has an arrow that always points one way regardless of you walking direction. I suggest anyone that says it's not a problem doesn't use the phone for regular city sat nav use.

When I go travelling I now use my older Moto X Play which has a compass and when I come home I use the Moto G4Plus dual SIM for my regular phone use.
Edited by: "spannerzone" 5th Aug 2017
Can anyone recommend a good cheapish phone with full hd screen, decent battery life, compass and good gps? My LG G2 has finally called it a day
Can't believe it doesn't have a compass. For over £250 you'd think they'd add something that costs very little.

Compass let's your phone know which way you're facing. It orientates you. So you don't head in the wrong direction and have difficulty knowing where you're going.
Edited by: "silverblueray" 5th Aug 2017
I got the Nokia 6. It's so worth the £189. I can't bring myself to pay £200+ on a phone when you could drop and smash it at any time.
bones7918 h, 7 m ago

Can anyone recommend a good cheapish phone with full hd screen, decent …Can anyone recommend a good cheapish phone with full hd screen, decent battery life, compass and good gps? My LG G2 has finally called it a day

Nokia 6, huawei p8 lite 2017, lenovo p2 the nextbit robin is in black for 122 on amazon think android 7 improved the battery life and had flagship specs at the time.
kaymate5th Aug

Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of …Can I ask why a compass is important? Is it not simply a case of downloading one off playstore? Or more complex than that?


The compass is a hardware function.. you cannot download it from the playstore.
The function is important for tracking apps and even navigation apps like Google Maps especially for walking etc.
I was using as a satnav in my car this week, when we stopped at the lights it got confused which way we were facing recalculated and gave wrong directions.
Is it a definite that there's no compass? Only asking because GSMArena states it has one.
gsmarena.com/mot…php

I have messaged Motorola for a definitive answer but had no reply as yet.

Motorola have ignored the question both on Twitter and Facebook.

Their loss
Edited by: "TrooperUK" 7th Aug 2017
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TrooperUK1 h, 33 m ago

Is it a definite that there's no compass? Only asking because GSMArena …Is it a definite that there's no compass? Only asking because GSMArena states it has one.http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g5s_plus-8699.php#europeI have messaged Motorola for a definative answer but had no reply as yet.

I wish it was the case and I really hope I'm wrong about this, but judging by GSM Arena's track record in the past, they have a tendency of initially putting together the specifications based upon rumour and then as more accurate information becomes available, corrections are then applied. To confuse matters further, different markets will have varying specifications. It is likely to be the case the USA version for example, will have a compass at the expense of NFC, whereas with the UK version, the opposite would apply. I personally have more confidence relying on the information provided by motorola.co.uk as the information is coming directly from the horse's mouth, rather than through a third party.
Edited by: "TheHun6" 6th Aug 2017
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Can I ask that for all future Moto G5 postings, the lack of compass continues to be debated, because never again must Lenovo be allowed to omit this most basic and essential function for future Moto G models.
Edited by: "TheHun6" 6th Aug 2017
Peeps who know, will this have a clean android experience and when will it be delivered?
Thanks.
G5s+ have dual camera as it can be seen on Motorola web however the pic on amazon site showing G5s with single camera, so the price £259 is for G5s+ or G5s or Amazon got the wrong pic?
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RGB6 h, 52 m ago

G5s+ have dual camera as it can be seen on Motorola web however the pic on …G5s+ have dual camera as it can be seen on Motorola web however the pic on amazon site showing G5s with single camera, so the price £259 is for G5s+ or G5s or Amazon got the wrong pic?

Amazon have got the wrong price for the standard G5S and the wrong picture for the G5S+.
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I've had the Moto G5 Plus for 2 months now and not had a single issue with it. Battery life is fabulous and performance very smooth never get any lag. Camera is good too
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