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MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX VERSION [Fixed for Ryzen 3000] at CCL for £98.99

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Posted 21st JulEdited by:"tince"

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First pre order that I have seen for the MAX boards, available from 27th I believe.

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Speedsurfer22/07/2019 00:36

Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD …Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.


Unlike most intel boards because intel only ever supports 1 chip per generation. I can't believe the amount of complaining here when a company is trying to save you from being extorted into buying newer and much more expensive hardware.
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Brilliant been waiting for these!
Need to add £10 for the bioos update?
andersonchenghy21/07/2019 23:27

Need to add £10 for the bioos update?


Same price as normal version currently, all these ryzen sales have pushed the motherboard prices up. I'm waiting for the Mortar max version to be released, so I can pair it with the 2600.

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Edited by: "tince" 21st Jul
Apart from having a prettier BIOS, Why is this worth £19.00 more than the original Tomahawk ?
Apart from MSI wishing to jump on the hype (And who would blame them!?) - This is no faster than a normal B450 board. Happy to be corrected though
Edited by: "Firefly1" 21st Jul
What's different, just a larger bios memory?
I am building a mineral oil setup with the 3900x. Hate the x570 for the chipset fan. Is this a good choice for immersion builds?
So glad I saw this post. Just ordered a 3600 and an Asus stri, X470 F-gaming and totally overlooked the bloody bios incompatibility. Don't have an old chip to use either so back to square one
coolhand8322/07/2019 00:01

So glad I saw this post. Just ordered a 3600 and an Asus stri, X470 …So glad I saw this post. Just ordered a 3600 and an Asus stri, X470 F-gaming and totally overlooked the bloody bios incompatibility. Don't have an old chip to use either so back to square one


Loan a CPU from AMD
rev622/07/2019 00:02

Loan a CPU from AMD


Yeah isn't that their last chance saloon option? Cba with the faffing :/

Thanks though!
coolhand8322/07/2019 00:03

Yeah isn't that their last chance saloon option? Cba with the faffing :/ …Yeah isn't that their last chance saloon option? Cba with the faffing :/ Thanks though!


Same. I can't be bothering with that either
So anyone actually going to say why this is better than normal b450 tomahawk other than different bios?

If that's only reason are people really that lazy they'd rather pay extra 20 quid instead of flashing a bios?
Wow that was quick, the MAX versions have the updated bios and bigger bios chips
bbfb12322/07/2019 00:15

So anyone actually going to say why this is better than normal b450 …So anyone actually going to say why this is better than normal b450 tomahawk other than different bios?If that's only reason are people really that lazy they'd rather pay extra 20 quid instead of flashing a bios?


Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.
Edited by: "Speedsurfer" 22nd Jul
Will this actually work with the latest Ryzen chips though? The reason people will consider this over the existing model is that in theory these boards will actually work, unlike the cluster that is the existing models.
lewiso22/07/2019 00:36

Will this actually work with the latest Ryzen chips though? The reason …Will this actually work with the latest Ryzen chips though? The reason people will consider this over the existing model is that in theory these boards will actually work, unlike the cluster that is the existing models.


That's literally the purpose of the MAX boards...
Speedsurfer22/07/2019 00:36

Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD …Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.


MSI's Flashback feature supposedly lets you flash a new BIOS via USB without a CPU installed.
Speedsurfer22/07/2019 00:36

Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD …Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.


Pretty sure regular b450 tomahawk supports bios update via USB so no need for an old amd cpu.
Edited by: "bbfb123" 22nd Jul
bbfb12322/07/2019 00:15

So anyone actually going to say why this is better than normal b450 …So anyone actually going to say why this is better than normal b450 tomahawk other than different bios?If that's only reason are people really that lazy they'd rather pay extra 20 quid instead of flashing a bios?



There is few features that is limited or disabled on the original version for zen2 compatibility and current Tomahawk is having huge problems with zen2. so £20 is cheap price to pay if it fix all the problems imo
sion2222/07/2019 01:03

There is few features that is limited or disabled on the original version …There is few features that is limited or disabled on the original version for zen2 compatibility and current Tomahawk is having huge problems with zen2. so £20 is cheap price to pay if it fix all the problems imo


Msi had issues with the old boards bios memory chip that was not big enough to hold the newer bios for zen 2, they got around this by disabling things like raid support.
These new MAX boards solve this issue and are compatible with zen 2 (ryzen 3000) right out the box no need for update
Yesterday I bought b450 carbon and 3700x. Had no problems updating it via flashback. Just board with no cpu, connect 24 pin and cpu atx and you good to go.
V1NNYC22/07/2019 01:12

Msi had issues with the old boards bios memory chip that was not big …Msi had issues with the old boards bios memory chip that was not big enough to hold the newer bios for zen 2, they got around this by disabling things like raid support.These new MAX boards solve this issue and are compatible with zen 2 (ryzen 3000) right out the box no need for update


i know, not to mention plenty of user is unable to post with zen2
sion2222/07/2019 01:20

i know, not to mention plenty of user is unable to post with zen2


Teething issues, that's what you get for early adoption I guess
Speedsurfer: Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.




Yeah this will be my first AMD build in about 8 years and it's kind of tedious. All my excitement has waned a bit. Sure, I could wait etc but I've been saving up for ages and now I've hit the button so to speak its all gone a bit tatas.

Don't have the option of borrowing a CPU to flash so now I'm looking at paying a fairly hefty premium for an X570 board. The strix X470F Gaming I had already ordered is a no go and the MSI boards are looking fairly problematic all round.

So deflated.

Had my 2500K for 7 years now and no issues since the start. Might just cancel my 3600 and just get a 9600k and a decent gigabyte aorus board and save myself £70!
Edited by: "coolhand83" 22nd Jul
Speedsurfer22/07/2019 00:36

Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD …Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.


But you can flash the tomahawk with a usb so I’m not entirely sure what you are on about ...
coolhand8322/07/2019 07:02

Speedsurfer:Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% …Speedsurfer:Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.Yeah this will be my first AMD build in about 8 years and it's kind of tedious. All my excitement has waned a bit. Sure, I could wait etc but I've been saving up for ages and now I've hit the button so to speak its all gone a bit tatas.Don't have the option of borrowing a CPU to flash so now I'm looking at paying a fairly hefty premium for an X570 board. The strix X470F Gaming I had already ordered is a no go and the MSI boards are looking fairly problematic all round. So deflated.Had my 2500K for 7 years now and no issues since the start. Might just cancel my 3600 and just get a 9600k and a decent gigabyte aorus board and save myself £70!


I have no idea what you are trying to say.
The normal B450 board will post without an older AMD CPU. You need a USB stick. Please don't make it sound like fact as you are wrong
Firefly122/07/2019 07:24

I have no idea what you are trying to say.The normal B450 board will post …I have no idea what you are trying to say.The normal B450 board will post without an older AMD CPU. You need a USB stick. Please don't make it sound like fact as you are wrong


I quoted a comment above and it appears it didn't format properly (first paragraph)
Firefly122/07/2019 07:24

I have no idea what you are trying to say.The normal B450 board will post …I have no idea what you are trying to say.The normal B450 board will post without an older AMD CPU. You need a USB stick. Please don't make it sound like fact as you are wrong


Also the normal B450 has had to sacrifice a fair few features with that bios update and has apparently been pretty buggy from what I've read, not ideal
Just watch a you tube review where this very board took a 3900x and benchmarked at max 2% slower than a x590 board.
Speedsurfer22/07/2019 00:36

Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD …Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.


Unlike most intel boards because intel only ever supports 1 chip per generation. I can't believe the amount of complaining here when a company is trying to save you from being extorted into buying newer and much more expensive hardware.
coolhand8322/07/2019 07:02

Speedsurfer: Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with …Speedsurfer: Nothing to do with laziness. Unlike most Intel boards with 95% of AMD boards you can't flash without a supported CPU installed. So if you purchased the older version of this board without the update done along with a 3000 series CPU it wouldn't even POST.Yeah this will be my first AMD build in about 8 years and it's kind of tedious. All my excitement has waned a bit. Sure, I could wait etc but I've been saving up for ages and now I've hit the button so to speak its all gone a bit tatas.Don't have the option of borrowing a CPU to flash so now I'm looking at paying a fairly hefty premium for an X570 board. The strix X470F Gaming I had already ordered is a no go and the MSI boards are looking fairly problematic all round. So deflated.Had my 2500K for 7 years now and no issues since the start. Might just cancel my 3600 and just get a 9600k and a decent gigabyte aorus board and save myself £70!


If you buy a B450 or X470 motherboard from Scan you can just get them to flash the latest bios for you at the cost of a tenner.
LazybeatX22/07/2019 08:54

If you buy a B450 or X470 motherboard from Scan you can just get them to …If you buy a B450 or X470 motherboard from Scan you can just get them to flash the latest bios for you at the cost of a tenner.


Aarggh don't tempt me.
Is this really a deal? A lot of 'deals' seem to be on whether you're either first or promoting something popular for RRP. The regular version could be had for £80-90 recently, so an extra tenner for 16MB more for the bios doesn't seem like something I'd consider worthy of heat. I also wouldn't automatically assume there wouldn't be issues with the max version, but MSI do seem to be working on fixing the issues and have already released v19 of the bios with further updates to come. I did have some trouble with mine (rufus 3.5 formatting usb as non bootable helped with flashing the bios), but it seems to be up and running well now. I did also have problems with sata port 1 that was baffling though.
anyone know what the cheapest Ryzen 3000 supported board is that will have headers for my front panel 4xUSB 3 Gen1 and 1xUSB 3 gen 2 (type c)? I'm guessing it will be an x470 board?
Edited by: "Snubbed" 22nd Jul
The MAX version isn't just a BIOS update for Ryzen 3000, its a larger Flash ROM chip.

bbfb12322/07/2019 01:00

Pretty sure regular b450 tomahawk supports bios update via USB so no need …Pretty sure regular b450 tomahawk supports bios update via USB so no need for an old amd cpu.


It does yes but the problem with this board is not that it doesn't support USB Flashback it is that Flash ROM chip is too small for all the data required. So if you do manually flash it (not everyone will know how to do this or that it exists), you'll also lose support for some older CPUs. Not a huge issue for many as the CPUs lost are EOL but the purpose of the MAX range is the out of the box support for Ryzen 3000 series without any compromises.

I guess they want simplicity in their product stack which is understandable. A customer can just look for the MAX moniker and know they are getting a board that supports not only the latest CPUs, but the entire range.
Edited by: "Speedsurfer" 22nd Jul
tempt21/07/2019 23:36

I am building a mineral oil setup with the 3900x. Hate the x570 for the …I am building a mineral oil setup with the 3900x. Hate the x570 for the chipset fan. Is this a good choice for immersion builds?


This is just badass. I always wondered what an oil cooled setup would look like
frish22/07/2019 09:40

Is this really a deal? A lot of 'deals' seem to be on whether you're …Is this really a deal? A lot of 'deals' seem to be on whether you're either first or promoting something popular for RRP. The regular version could be had for £80-90 recently, so an extra tenner for 16MB more for the bios doesn't seem like something I'd consider worthy of heat. I also wouldn't automatically assume there wouldn't be issues with the max version, but MSI do seem to be working on fixing the issues and have already released v19 of the bios with further updates to come. I did have some trouble with mine (rufus 3.5 formatting usb as non bootable helped with flashing the bios), but it seems to be up and running well now. I did also have problems with sata port 1 that was baffling though.


Indeed, not really a deal as far as price is concerned. Although you can say that about a lot of posts on this website, its often more about the product than the actual % off the normal price.

Snubbed22/07/2019 09:40

anyone know what the cheapest Ryzen 3000 supported board is that will have …anyone know what the cheapest Ryzen 3000 supported board is that will have headers for my front panel 4xUSB 3 Gen1 and 1xUSB 3 gen 2 (type c)? I'm guessing it will be an x470 board?


Likely yes, for that many headers a higher end board will likely be needed. What case do you have?
Speedsurfer22/07/2019 10:29

Indeed, not really a deal as far as price is concerned. Although you can …Indeed, not really a deal as far as price is concerned. Although you can say that about a lot of posts on this website, its often more about the product than the actual % off the normal price.Likely yes, for that many headers a higher end board will likely be needed. What case do you have?


I have the Cooler Master MC500M... been looking around and I know the Taichi and Aorus Gaming 7 will do it but seeing if anything cheaper is available
Snubbed22/07/2019 10:40

I have the Cooler Master MC500M... been looking around and I know the …I have the Cooler Master MC500M... been looking around and I know the Taichi and Aorus Gaming 7 will do it but seeing if anything cheaper is available


There are a few more but they are all £130+ like the Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming.

It does seem you need a mid to high end X470 board for it. Although unless you are going to use 3+ ports on the front panel at the same time quite often, I'd caution against buying a more expensive board specifically for it. It would be easier and cheaper to just buy a couple of longer USB cables with a female end and use the rear I/O in that case.
jordantr22/07/2019 01:16

Yesterday I bought b450 carbon and 3700x. Had no problems updating it via …Yesterday I bought b450 carbon and 3700x. Had no problems updating it via flashback. Just board with no cpu, connect 24 pin and cpu atx and you good to go.



I have my B450 carbon pro in it's box unopened (waiting for case to arrive this week). Deciding whether to return it (have 2 days to decide before 30 days are up and get the MAX which should be here soon). What bios version did you flash with? Did you clear CMOS before and or after flashing? Do you have any issues with a cold boot (switching off at power plug)?

Any feedback would be much appreciated
This bios chip update is purely for MSI's benefit so they can sell more boards, to a wider range of CPU owners. Which Ryzen 3000 owner is going to be bothered about support for older, slower CPUs? Ridiculous price increase over the standard board
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