MSI Cubi-N-001BEU Ultra Small Form Factor PC with Dual Core Intel N3050 CPU - need to add storage and RAM £53.31 Scan
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MSI Cubi-N-001BEU Ultra Small Form Factor PC with Dual Core Intel N3050 CPU - need to add storage and RAM £53.31 Scan

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Found 19th Jul 2016
Seems like an absolute steal for a mini PC to run Kodi on etc.

It's only a Celeron, but graphics card allegedly supports 4K

Limited to 1 per customer

3.33 shipping

4K support is for a different model -
"4K is supported only when using Core i3 processor with dual channel enabled (2 memory dimm installed)"
- GNKelly07

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The £89 Insight one has 8 GB ram installed.

brush52

The £89 Insight one has 8 GB ram installed.



Its 8Gb max, doesn't seem to have any? But it does have a better CPU.

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brush52

The £89 Insight one has 8 GB ram installed.



No it doesn't, it says 0GB

8GB Max

"kayboard not included"

daze24

"kayboard not included"



​buy a separate Peter Kay soundboard

Very good price - I'd try to wait out a N3150 model if possible though. I've owned a few of these small form factors and would say there is a bit of a difference between the dual core 3050 and quad 3150. The extra cores make Windows usable - I found the 3050 in Windows a bit of a drudge even for browsing/youtube etc.

Gone for it. Got a spare SSD and think the RAM I have at home will fit, is only for basic windows functions in a shop.

anybody recommend a msata ssd for this?

purchased

Check 2 things before buying.

The listing states "MSI® Cubi supports HD and 4K (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz)"

This is misleading because the HDMi port will be 1.4 (the SOC doesn't support HDMI 2.0) and therefore will only support 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz (not that this is necessarily a bad thing).

Make sure that it has two memory slots so you can stick 2x4Gb sticks in there, otherwise you will struggle with some 4k because it requires dual channel memory to run efficiently.

If you are going to use this as a media player then I would recommend installing this

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955

I use it on my Beebox n3150 and it;s superb.

You may find that Openelec/Librelec works well too.

Good price for what it is though and at the price, would consider it a steal.

Edit: just checked and it does have 2 RAM slots, so good to go for smooth 4K playback.


Edited by: "reddit" 19th Jul 2016

Ideal OpenELEC box for Kodi heat!

How reliable is the wifi on this?
Have heard some stories of other small form. factor pcs like this have touch and go wifi.

This is NOT a Mini-PC, its BARELY a Barebones PC?!.

Allllllll it is is a Celeron CPU + a Motherboard and nowt all else really? (as no RAM, etc?).

So what gives ..... :-(

Lol. :-)

amour3k

This is NOT a Mini-PC, its BARELY a Barebones PC?!.Allllllll it is is a … This is NOT a Mini-PC, its BARELY a Barebones PC?!.Allllllll it is is a Celeron CPU + a Motherboard and nowt all else really? (as no RAM, etc?).So what gives ..... :-(Lol. :-)



It gives you options.

I'm using a fanless celeron pc with Kodibuntu and it is far superior to running it on Android.
Cheap SSD and Kodibuntu the way forward if you want that "appliance" feel IMO.

tek-monkey

£89 at insight so seems like a good … £89 at insight so seems like a good deal.http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/misc-accessories/0006202973-00000001?utm_source=Google+Shopping&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Feed&src=000093&&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Feed-_-Feed-_-Feed&gclid=CjwKEAjwn7e8BRCUqZiP_vnrtBkSJAC_lp4HpSft7oNBZbX-2aNJw7j6WGOZs32T9UkAFnpKmpNAPBoCIMLw_wcB



Thanks I went for this one but found it a bit cheaper : ballicom.co.uk/msi…tml free postage too.

reddit

Check 2 things before buying.The listing states "MSI® Cubi supports HD … Check 2 things before buying.The listing states "MSI® Cubi supports HD and 4K (3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz)"This is misleading because the HDMi port will be 1.4 (the SOC doesn't support HDMI 2.0) and therefore will only support 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz (not that this is necessarily a bad thing).Make sure that it has two memory slots so you can stick 2x4Gb sticks in there, otherwise you will struggle with some 4k because it requires dual channel memory to run efficiently.If you are going to use this as a media player then I would recommend installing thishttp://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=231955I use it on my Beebox n3150 and it;s superb.You may find that Openelec/Librelec works well too.Good price for what it is though and at the price, would consider it a steal.Edit: just checked and it does have 2 RAM slots, so good to go for smooth 4K playback.



​it has a mini display port however which theoretically supports greater bandwidth than hdmi 2.0 and so therefore could output 2160P @ 60Hz.

krisosbornenet

​it has a mini display port however which theoretically supports greater b … ​it has a mini display port however which theoretically supports greater bandwidth than hdmi 2.0 and so therefore could output 2160P @ 60Hz.



Only on the i3 model though from what I can see and the DP port would need to be DP++ to support it to a TV using a passive adapter, or the more expensive active adapter if the port is plain DP 1.2.

It's wording such as "to serve as an HTPC that helps to change your living room in a home theater" that I find misleading as anybody with a home theatre is almost certainly going to use a TV rather than a monitor.

Update: Having said all that, it doesn't have a displayport anyway (only HDMI and VGA) so make it even more misleading.



Edited by: "reddit" 20th Jul 2016

Great wee machine, I paid about £96 for it a few months back but they send it with a 2 pin plug.

Zek

Thanks I went for this one but found it a bit cheaper : … Thanks I went for this one but found it a bit cheaper : https://www.ballicom.co.uk/msi-n-001beu-bn3050xx-.p1254685.html free postage too.



E-mailed Ballicom, does not include memory, you have to purchase it separately.

Don't for get free delivery over £50 with Scan if you are an AV Forums member.
Edited by: "OBH6UK" 20th Jul 2016

is it worth the extra 40 to get the 3150? im looking for a good kodi and steam streaming box.

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rmg

is it worth the extra 40 to get the 3150? im looking for a good kodi and … is it worth the extra 40 to get the 3150? im looking for a good kodi and steam streaming box.



I've got both, and yes the 3150 is slightly smother in windows. but very little difference in kodi. stick an ssd in and 8gb and it's great. not tried steam streaming though
Edited by: "axgod2" 20th Jul 2016

For video playback through Kodi you won't notice any difference because the cores will easily cope.

Unless you are running Windows, where you may on occasion find that other processes running in the background will cause the cores to run at full pelt and this might cause a stutter or two.

If you are running something like the Linux based Vaapi solution then you won;t have any such issues.
On my N3150, across all 4 cores, things never get above 35% usage and even then, only for very short periods, where the usage can drop far lower.

The same will be true on Openelec/Librelec (not sure if passthrough is working yet though, so worth checking if required).

So add a couple of 2Gb RAM sticks and even a small 32Gb SSD will be more then enough.

As said by somebody else, Windows on the N3050 can be quite sluggish.

It's not exactly zippy on an N3150 but is better.

So if you were going down the most efficient road for a Kodi/streaming box (assuming that streaming is either via Gigabit LAN or Wireless AC, then you should be covered for pretty much all the basic bases).

If you can easily afford the extra £30 for the N3150, which you can get here, then go for it if you really need that extra bit of grunt.

ballicom.co.uk/msi…tml

Edited by: "reddit" 20th Jul 2016

OBH6UK

E-mailed Ballicom, does not include memory, you have to purchase it … E-mailed Ballicom, does not include memory, you have to purchase it separately.Don't for get free delivery over £50 with Scan if you are an AV Forums member.



I purchased some RAM from eBay £23.50 for 8GB, was going to use 4GB but it was priced similar to 8GB. Infact I got them for £3.50 as I had enough nectar points for a £20 voucher

heat for the price, but if you want a cheap kodi then buy a fire tv stick, its 35quid ( or cheaper when on offer) with a remote.

Be surprised if that CPU can handle 4K, let me know if it works well

I got mine just now (not this deal but the more expensive N3150 from ballicom), looking at the box it says "Intel Braswell N3050, 1.6GHz" My dispatch note says "MSI CUBI N3150" but uses the product code "MSIN-001BEU-BN3050XX" Amazon review mentions its a 3050 and not a 3150 : https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Cubi-Mini-Kit-Black/dp/B01C6PMTLE

It also says on the box "MSI P/N 936-B12011-001" MKT Name "Cubi N - 001BEU" PSN "BN3050XX"

Kikatek has the same SKU : kikatek.com/P78…438

Same with as Insight : http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/misc-accessories/0006202973-00000001?utm_source=Google+Shopping&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Feed&src=000093&&cm_mmc=Google+Shopping-_-Feed-_-Feed-_-Feed&gclid=CLuyyb63hM4CFesV0wod1HwI_w

Has anyone got both the 3050 and 3150 version? I'm beginning to think you can't get the 3150 in barebones or maybe at all?

Just emailed Ballicom for an explanation, will keep you informed
Edited by: "Zek" 21st Jul 2016

I just got this this evening and I've had a chance to plug it in. It says UHD 4K on the side of the box and does output 4k (albeit at 30hz) to my tv, so with the hevc decoding it does most of what I want

It comes with the UK cable, 802.11b/g/n wireless (no ac, boo) and the full set of accessories like the vesa mount and hard drive adapter.

I'm just running it off a liveUSB of mint at the moment and it works pretty nicely.

Openelec installed on an msata SSD, one stick of ram installed, Kodi is now playing 4k video over the network at 15% cpu load, wonderful thanks OP, this beats my aging pi setup quite nicely

I have just checked and it is a 3050 from ballicom, disappointed, it shows the processor in the bios. I can send it back though within 14 days as they said it should be the 3150.

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Zek

I have just checked and it is a 3050 from ballicom, disappointed, it … I have just checked and it is a 3050 from ballicom, disappointed, it shows the processor in the bios. I can send it back though within 14 days as they said it should be the 3150.



​i don't think the 3150 model exists

I don't think it's quite worth replacing my haswell nuc with one and might wait for the skylake nucs to come down in price a bit or see if the next versions have a hdmi 2 port.

smr1

I don't think it's quite worth replacing my haswell nuc with one and … I don't think it's quite worth replacing my haswell nuc with one and might wait for the skylake nucs to come down in price a bit or see if the next versions have a hdmi 2 port.



Now that I've played with the cubi for a couple of days, I agree, the processor / gpu aren't quite there for 4k playback with h265, but this does give me 1080p h265 which is the main thing I wanted. The next generation of NUCs (kaby lake) look like the right level to do both and they have HDMI 2.0

This is a really good guide for setting up the NUC btw, which also applies to the cubi: nucblog.net/201…ec/
Edited by: "Voodle" 24th Jul 2016

Minor issue with the thieving robdogs at Scan - £3.33 cheapest delivery actually costs £4.00 (£3.33 + VAT) - so the lowest cost is £53.98.

Only 67p, but the fraud leaves a bad taste.

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andy71

Minor issue with the thieving robdogs at Scan - £3.33 cheapest delivery … Minor issue with the thieving robdogs at Scan - £3.33 cheapest delivery actually costs £4.00 (£3.33 + VAT) - so the lowest cost is £53.98.Only 67p, but the fraud leaves a bad taste.



Sneaky

Voodle

Now that I've played with the cubi for a couple of days, I agree, the … Now that I've played with the cubi for a couple of days, I agree, the processor / gpu aren't quite there for 4k playback with h265, but this does give me 1080p h265 which is the main thing I wanted. The next generation of NUCs (kaby lake) look like the right level to do both and they have HDMI 2.0This is a really good guide for setting up the NUC btw, which also applies to the cubi: http://nucblog.net/2015/07/braswell-nuc-review-nuc5cpyh-htpc-openelec/



You need 2 sticks of RAM to get 4k playing correctly, to take advantage of the dual channel memory required.

reddit

You need 2 sticks of RAM to get 4k playing correctly, to take advantage … You need 2 sticks of RAM to get 4k playing correctly, to take advantage of the dual channel memory required.



Thanks, I finally got the 2x2gb sticks I ordered and yep, that made all the difference - I thought it might since that affects the gpu as well. Looks great at 4k30 with h265 video now

Voodle

Thanks, I finally got the 2x2gb sticks I ordered and yep, that made all … Thanks, I finally got the 2x2gb sticks I ordered and yep, that made all the difference - I thought it might since that affects the gpu as well. Looks great at 4k30 with h265 video now



Great stuff

I can't get it to boot from USB, anyone else? Its windows 7, maybe thats the issue.....

Needed to disable secure boot and the windows 8 logo stuff, and possibly fast boot too. Dunno, I disabled all 3 and it worked! Of course now my USB2 devices don't work during install so I need to make a USB3 boot device. Bah!
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