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MSI GeForce RTX 2060 VENTUS XS OC 6GB Graphics Card £255.33 @ Ebay / Ebuyer
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Similar price to the mini ITX rtx 2060 cards but offers a better cooling.
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I’ve experienced the MSI Ventus XS OC branded 1650 Super and 1660 Super and both have been excellent. I’m guessing this one be the same and it’s a great price. Voted hot
Eek, hard to recommend with the 5700XT at £303 currently, and that comes with 2 free games and xbox game pass...Putting it's effective cost equal to this, but it's a lot more powerful. Bout 20-25% more frames on XT than with this boi. Driver issues taken into account, I'd chance it with an XT over this, or get a 2070.
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 01:11

Eek, hard to recommend with the 5700XT at £303 currently, and that comes …Eek, hard to recommend with the 5700XT at £303 currently, and that comes with 2 free games and xbox game pass...Putting it's effective cost equal to this, but it's a lot more powerful. Bout 20-25% more frames on XT than with this boi. Driver issues taken into account, I'd chance it with an XT over this, or get a 2070.



But driver issues like you said. I've been team red since 2011 but it feels like they're driving over their own feet over and over these days. Really put me off them. I might have gone for that other deal had I not heard no end of stories on terrible drivers that they don't seem to be able to fix after months and months.
Arkz26/02/2020 01:52

But driver issues like you said. I've been team red since 2011 but it …But driver issues like you said. I've been team red since 2011 but it feels like they're driving over their own feet over and over these days. Really put me off them. I might have gone for that other deal had I not heard no end of stories on terrible drivers that they don't seem to be able to fix after months and months.


It's a tough one. I've built 2 XT pcs and they worked well.

I think there's a lot of people out there who don't know about PCs who buy XTs. They don't update chipset drivers, they probs leave old drivers from an nvidia card on their PC, etc, etc. AMD cards are not kind in such cases.

At the same time there are definately people who know what they're doing still having issues. My guess is a minority are in the latter camp. If you are reasonably savvy, the XT will likely serve you very well and if there are issues they're a DDU away, some fresh drivers, a few check boxes on radeon control panel.
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 02:05

It's a tough one. I've built 2 XT pcs and they worked well.I think there's …It's a tough one. I've built 2 XT pcs and they worked well.I think there's a lot of people out there who don't know about PCs who buy XTs. They don't update chipset drivers, they probs leave old drivers from an nvidia card on their PC, etc, etc. AMD cards are not kind in such cases.At the same time there are definately people who know what they're doing still having issues. My guess is a minority are in the latter camp. If you are reasonably savvy, the XT will likely serve you very well and if there are issues they're a DDU away, some fresh drivers, a few check boxes on radeon control panel.



Hmm.. I mean it is a good deal for the 5700 XT. Although Powercolor are one of the crappier companies like Zotac and Palit.
Cheap nasty pcbs that never seem to have a backplate.

If it were Sapphire I would have gone for it. Maybe MSI but I once had an MSI card die so now I'm a bit iffy with them.
I keep thinking I should wait till after GDC to see if they announce some new cards. An nvidia 3000 series perhaps.
Arkz26/02/2020 03:01

Hmm.. I mean it is a good deal for the 5700 XT. Although Powercolor are …Hmm.. I mean it is a good deal for the 5700 XT. Although Powercolor are one of the crappier companies like Zotac and Palit.Cheap nasty pcbs that never seem to have a backplate.If it were Sapphire I would have gone for it. Maybe MSI but I once had an MSI card die so now I'm a bit iffy with them.I keep thinking I should wait till after GDC to see if they announce some new cards. An nvidia 3000 series perhaps.


If you can wait, as in you have a working gpu you now thats pretty decent, I would. I think the 3000 series will be solid.
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 03:06

If you can wait, as in you have a working gpu you now thats pretty decent, …If you can wait, as in you have a working gpu you now thats pretty decent, I would. I think the 3000 series will be solid.



RX580, just struggles to keep 60 in newer games at QHD. Older stuff at least plays ok even in 4k.
Arkz26/02/2020 03:01

Hmm.. I mean it is a good deal for the 5700 XT. Although Powercolor are …Hmm.. I mean it is a good deal for the 5700 XT. Although Powercolor are one of the crappier companies like Zotac and Palit.Cheap nasty pcbs that never seem to have a backplate.If it were Sapphire I would have gone for it. Maybe MSI but I once had an MSI card die so now I'm a bit iffy with them.I keep thinking I should wait till after GDC to see if they announce some new cards. An nvidia 3000 series perhaps.


Zotac make some nice cards, at least at the higher end such as the RTX 2070 Super. Software is however poor, only available version of their control software is unsigned.
Edited by: "mattclarkie" 26th Feb
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 01:11

Eek, hard to recommend with the 5700XT at £303 currently, and that comes …Eek, hard to recommend with the 5700XT at £303 currently, and that comes with 2 free games and xbox game pass...Putting it's effective cost equal to this, but it's a lot more powerful. Bout 20-25% more frames on XT than with this boi. Driver issues taken into account, I'd chance it with an XT over this, or get a 2070.


Links ? I did a quick search and can only find £340+ prices ?
I have had nothing but hell with a 5700xt black screen issues all the time unable to make my own fan profiles etc There is a reason people keep buying Nvidia
keepitonthelow26/02/2020 16:40

There is a reason people keep buying Nvidia


yes, it is for the same reason people buy iphones, you are getting ripped off, manipulated but tha main features works....well unless you hold the phone incorrectly..and remember, it's never going to be their fault.

Buy Nvidia, as their CEO says - the more you buy the more you save...and again, the more you buy....

ohhh, or maybe it should sounds like - the more I lie the more you buy
Edited by: "7777777" 26th Feb
777777726/02/2020 19:48

yes, it is for the same reason people buy iphones, you are getting ripped …yes, it is for the same reason people buy iphones, you are getting ripped off, manipulated but tha main features works....well unless you hold the phone incorrectly..and remember, it's never going to be their fault.Buy Nvidia, as their CEO says - the more you buy the more you save...and again, the more you buy....ohhh, or maybe it should sounds like - the more I lie the more you buy


This is nonsense. I own an 5700XT and still disagree, nvidia make excellent products. If money isn't an issue get a 2080Ti, if you want stability out of the box get a 2070S.


XTs are great, but drivers are poor. I should know I've got two XT PCs in my house.
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 20:28

This is nonsense. I own an 5700XT and still disagree, nvidia make …This is nonsense. I own an 5700XT and still disagree, nvidia make excellent products. If money isn't an issue get a 2080Ti, if you want stability out of the box get a 2070S.XTs are great, but drivers are poor. I should know I've got two XT PCs in my house.


What is nonsense? The fact you are getting ripped off and pay for solutions to nonexisting problems? (rtx - just remind me how many games is utilising this feature almost 1.5 year after launch) or maybe the fact nvidia abandons driver updates once newer gen of card is being released? (see Pascal cards now)

They make good products indeed, in fact, as excellent as AMD and yes, there is a probability of some adrenaline drivers issues with some cards in certain circumstances just now but the scale is not as wide as people portray it and who knows how often the users are to blame for it (i.e. inability to install the drivers properly). I know people using their rx 5700 xt without any problems.

Didn't Nvidia face problems with their 2080ti on launch not that long ago? Didn't Nvidia attempt to force users to pay massive premiums for g-sync and when failed to gain expected share abandoned it and hijacked freesync, branding as their own creation? Didn't Nvidia attempt to restrict competition even more by creating GPP?

I have Amd gpu for almost 2 years. Do you know many times my system crashed since? Once, and i am not sure the drivers were to blame (whilst playing AC Origin so well optimised for wonderful Gameworks that Nvidia refused to share the code to) .
777777726/02/2020 20:53

What is nonsense? The fact you are getting ripped off and pay for …What is nonsense? The fact you are getting ripped off and pay for solutions to nonexisting problems? (rtx - just remind me how many games is utilising this feature almost 1.5 year after launch) or maybe the fact nvidia abandons driver updates once newer gen of card is being released? (see Pascal cards now)They make good products indeed, in fact, as excellent as AMD and yes, there is a probability of some adrenaline drivers issues with some cards in certain circumstances just now but the scale is not as wide as people portray it and who knows how often the users are to blame for it (i.e. inability to install the drivers properly). I know people using their rx 5700 xt without any problems.Didn't Nvidia face problems with their 2080ti on launch not that long ago? Didn't Nvidia attempt to force users to pay massive premiums for g-sync and when failed to gain expected share abandoned it and hijacked freesync, branding as their own creation? Didn't Nvidia attempt to restrict competition even more by creating GPP?I have Amd gpu for almost 2 years. Do you know many times my system crashed since? Once, and i am not sure the drivers were to blame (whilst playing AC Origin so well optimised for wonderful Gameworks that Nvidia refused to share the code to) .


Hardware unboxed surveyed 40,000 of their viewers, the rate of driver issues in AMD GPUs was astonishing, there is a huge issue with XTs and they outright made two videos about it. I made two brand new builds with XTs and have issues with both initially, before tinkering to sort them both out.

There are known XT issues, for instance, go to fyke isle in the witcher 3 and it WILL crash if you're playing on an XT. Great.

i.warosu.org/dat…jpg

Amd gpus have historically had higher failure rates, we'll see if that's still true soon of this gen.

Anyway, I like amd, I buy amd cards, but nvidia is an excellent company filling a niche amd aren't, and providing more reliable cards at present. This is a fact, at a hardware and software level.
Edited by: "zeb.mattey" 26th Feb
zeb.mattey26/02/2020 20:57

Hardware unboxed surveyed 40,000 of their viewers, the rate of driver …Hardware unboxed surveyed 40,000 of their viewers, the rate of driver issues in AMD GPUs was astonishing, there is a huge issue with XTs and they outright made two videos about it. I made two brand new builds with XTs and have issues with both initially, before tinkering to sort them both out.There are known XT issues, for instance, go to fyke isle in the witcher 3 and it WILL crash if you're playing on an XT. Great.https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0555/86/1468583766580.jpgAmd gpus have historically had higher failure rates, we'll see if that's still true soon of this gen.Anyway, I like amd, I buy amd cards, but nvidia is an excellent company filling a niche amd aren't, and providing more reliable cards at present. This is a fact, at a hardware and software level.


i have seen the results of HU poll, judging how many blind followers Nvidia has and their mktshare i wouldn't trust those numbers at all but obviously do take the point that some amd drivers issues are possible.

Regarding reliability, i have never had gpu failing on me, can't say, don't know this source and sample either.

Polaris failure rate could be quite high but no-one made gpu working as hard as miners.
Edited by: "7777777" 26th Feb
IV not had much response to this but I know why a lot of people are getting issues, there's seems to be no backwards compatibility with the hdmis on the 5700's. I have 2 older monitors which gave me black screen and 50% of the time wouldn't get a signal to the monitor. I could hear the h.d had booted into windows but just getting no signal. Switched to my 4k TV with the new hdmi sockets and not a single problem. Seems like a backwards compatibility problem to me.
Is there any possible way to get a 2060 for under 250?
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