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MSI Radeon RX 5700/RX 5700 XT 8GB Graphics Card, £339.99/£389.99 at CCLOnline (free game pass)

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Posted 9th Jul
On pre order, ETA tomorrow, 10/07/2019.
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  • 8GB Graphics Memory
  • Interface Type - PCI Express
  • Cooler Type - Active Fan
  • Outputs - HDMI and Display Port
MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GPU
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Wait till models with a different cooler come out.
These are hot and loud and for 3% this isn't any sort of deal really.
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Wait till models with a different cooler come out.
These are hot and loud and for 3% this isn't any sort of deal really.
koftinho09/07/2019 20:26

Wait till models with a different cooler come out. These are hot and loud …Wait till models with a different cooler come out. These are hot and loud and for 3% this isn't any sort of deal really.


Cheapest pre-order, might help someone
Excellent gpu. Just need a aftermarket coolers. Wait till August for better 3rd party cards. Voted hot because this is the best price right now.
Probably a newbie question, but what is a good card that will run vr really well not just about pass.
bittersweet09/07/2019 20:56

Probably a newbie question, but what is a good card that will run vr …Probably a newbie question, but what is a good card that will run vr really well not just about pass.


Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.

These new AMDs can go up to 95C and thermal shutdown Rushed cards and drivers imo.
powerbrick09/07/2019 21:03

Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new …Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new AMDs can go up to 95C and thermal shutdown Rushed cards and drivers imo.



They don't thermal throttle, but the temps are higher to control noise. Some reviews have questionable thermal numbers in my opinion. A blower style design is just safer for someone with a rubbish case, or OEM systems where the cases are typically bad or how the trend is with them to be slim and small and focusing aesthetic over airflow, where again a blower card would vent heat out instead of dumping it back in, thus raising the temperatuire of everything inside. That said I don't necessarily agree with blower styles myself but its not just me or you they are designing the card for.

Partner cards will fix really the only gripe with these, the cooling. The drivers suck, but the release ones have been relatively stable for me compared to the press drivers the media have been getting, although overclocking is still all over the place and I feel the clocks aren't applying correctly. Next version should get things going smoothly. It is a big month for AMD after all.

That said these are good cards, the 5700 is the best value card in the sub 350 space if you count out the vega 56, which for around £250 or less offers the best value north of 200. Navi will hold up better in the coming months and years in comparison even though Vega has done quite well.
Edited by: "3anana" 9th Jul
Both cards are cheaper from Amazon.de using a fee free card.

Might help someone looking to pay less.
Heat added, waiting for the 5700xt Aftermarket cards myself but anyone who doesn't mind the blower cooler this is a good price. I'll be sat here awaiting your deals on the Sapphire Nitro or Toxic 5700xt when they launch mate 😁
powerbrick09/07/2019 21:03

Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new …Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new AMDs can go up to 95C and thermal shutdown Rushed cards and drivers imo.


Thank you, I will have a look.
LazybeatX09/07/2019 21:22

Heat added, waiting for the 5700xt Aftermarket cards myself but anyone who …Heat added, waiting for the 5700xt Aftermarket cards myself but anyone who doesn't mind the blower cooler this is a good price. I'll be sat here awaiting your deals on the Sapphire Nitro or Toxic 5700xt when they launch mate 😁


Waiting for sapphire myself, hope they bring toxic back
pcmustard09/07/2019 21:40

Waiting for sapphire myself, hope they bring toxic back


If they make a toxic version of the 5700xt its a day 1 purchase for me.
How do these compare to the Vega 56 and 64
robodan91809/07/2019 21:53

How do these compare to the Vega 56 and 64

much less power hungry and 5700x beat V64 in performance.

Anyway as usual AMD initial driver sucks. This will improve dramatically after 2nd 3rd driver release. I went through the same drama when I bought the Radeon 7 card. By that time aftermarket cards will hit the shops.
Edited by: "Bigspin" 9th Jul
robodan91809/07/2019 21:53

How do these compare to the Vega 56 and 64


5700 is ~5% over a 64 on average.

And there will be a toxic version.
Edited by: "3anana" 9th Jul
LazybeatX09/07/2019 21:22

Heat added, waiting for the 5700xt Aftermarket cards myself but anyone who …Heat added, waiting for the 5700xt Aftermarket cards myself but anyone who doesn't mind the blower cooler this is a good price. I'll be sat here awaiting your deals on the Sapphire Nitro or Toxic 5700xt when they launch mate 😁


Im holding out for an MSI RX 5700 XT Gaming X...

Is that one too many X's?
powerbrick09/07/2019 21:03

Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new …Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new AMDs can go up to 95C and thermal shutdown Rushed cards and drivers imo.



Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat and rushed drivers is a staple of AMD and means the card catch up and sometimes surpass their competition over time. And then thee is AMD's "Fine Wine" effect which just means they are not artificially crippled over time to drive sales of newer cards.
in america theyre $350/$400, equating to around £280/320, UK prices are a joke, the more expensive card is cheaper in the US than the weaker card here...
3anana09/07/2019 22:03

5700 is ~5% over a 64 on average.And there will be a toxic version.


so the vega 64 can be had for about 250 now and the 5700 costs 340

I get that it's 5% more frames per second and uses a bit less power

but for some reason I still don't get it - the cost doesn't make sense
Bigspin09/07/2019 22:03

much less power hungry and 5700x beat V64 in performance.Anyway as usual …much less power hungry and 5700x beat V64 in performance.Anyway as usual AMD initial driver sucks. This will improve dramatically after 2nd 3rd driver release. I went through the same drama when I bought the Radeon 7 card. By that time aftermarket cards will hit the shops.


the performance doesn't seem to justify the price imho

can get a new vega 64 for 250 easily
Diolusion09/07/2019 23:52

in america theyre $350/$400, equating to around £280/320, UK prices are a …in america theyre $350/$400, equating to around £280/320, UK prices are a joke, the more expensive card is cheaper in the US than the weaker card here...


Prices in the US dont include tax. The UK ex VAT price is about £283 for the 5700, or about $352 assuming bulk currency rate. So VAT is more or less entirely to blame for the price delta.
Diolusion09/07/2019 23:52

in america theyre $350/$400, equating to around £280/320, UK prices are a …in america theyre $350/$400, equating to around £280/320, UK prices are a joke, the more expensive card is cheaper in the US than the weaker card here...


American prices don't include any sales tax, as they're different state to state. So your figures plus 20% £336/£384 are quite close to what we're being asked to pay.
How much better than the Vega 64 is this? Looking at 1440P UW gamjng
robodan91810/07/2019 00:01

the performance doesn't seem to justify the price imhocan get a new vega …the performance doesn't seem to justify the price imhocan get a new vega 64 for 250 easily



Surely you mean used. Where can you get new vega64 for 250 quid?
dijital09/07/2019 23:41

Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat …Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat and rushed drivers is a staple of AMD and means the card catch up and sometimes surpass their competition over time. And then thee is AMD's "Fine Wine" effect which just means they are not artificially crippled over time to drive sales of newer cards.


AMD fine wine doesn't exist anymore.

tomshardware.co.uk/amd…tml

There was real issues with the 7970 and the 290, where they were providing very bad drivers compared to what those cards could do. They've not seen similarities since then.

The 5700/5700xt does sort of have a new architecture, but it isn't anywhere as big of leap as they took when they started GCN.
These cards are not only great, but I am sure in classic and style the next month will bring 10-15% performance increase probably with ease. Heck, even their new CPUs have already had a performance uplift with a bios update.
robodan91810/07/2019 00:00

so the vega 64 can be had for about 250 now and the 5700 costs 340I get …so the vega 64 can be had for about 250 now and the 5700 costs 340I get that it's 5% more frames per second and uses a bit less powerbut for some reason I still don't get it - the cost doesn't make sense



There's always the argument of a newly release product versus something that is now a few years old. Navi will get a little bump as the drivers get a little more mature, and should scale better with future games given the consoles will also be running on the same architecture and hardware.

And you'd be better off with a vega 56 over a 64. At the same clocks they are almost identical in performance in almost every circumstance but you don't get an extra 60w of heat to deal with For the price that its at Navi is good, its just that the previous gen AMD cards offer more value for money.
dijital09/07/2019 23:41

Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat …Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat and rushed drivers is a staple of AMD and means the card catch up and sometimes surpass their competition over time. And then thee is AMD's "Fine Wine" effect which just means they are not artificially crippled over time to drive sales of newer cards.


The fine wine effect hadn't been too pronounced lately...
However, with bith PS5 and the next Xbox both using some kind of Navi so it is possible the will age well.
But the new consoles are not out until late 2020 so it will take time for developers to target Navi, AND it seems the consoles are going to get a different newer Navi with rumoured hardware raytracing assistance, so these might not benefit too much from console optimisations.
Gkains10/07/2019 08:03

The fine wine effect hadn't been too pronounced lately...However, with …The fine wine effect hadn't been too pronounced lately...However, with bith PS5 and the next Xbox both using some kind of Navi so it is possible the will age well.But the new consoles are not out until late 2020 so it will take time for developers to target Navi, AND it seems the consoles are going to get a different newer Navi with rumoured hardware raytracing assistance, so these might not benefit too much from console optimisations.



Fine wine will really kick in nvidia release their 3000 range, thats when they will really start crippling the 1060/70/80 range.
Edited by: "dijital" 10th Jul
3anana10/07/2019 07:08

There's always the argument of a newly release product versus something …There's always the argument of a newly release product versus something that is now a few years old. Navi will get a little bump as the drivers get a little more mature, and should scale better with future games given the consoles will also be running on the same architecture and hardware.And you'd be better off with a vega 56 over a 64. At the same clocks they are almost identical in performance in almost every circumstance but you don't get an extra 60w of heat to deal with For the price that its at Navi is good, its just that the previous gen AMD cards offer more value for money.


True and with the Vega 56 bios flashed to 64, and undervolted you can easily get a 10% overclock at lower than stock temps
powerbrick09/07/2019 21:03

Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new …Nvidia comes out on top in VR so a 2060S/2070S or wait for 2080S.These new AMDs can go up to 95C and thermal shutdown Rushed cards and drivers imo.


That's very exaggerated. These cards are nothing like the Vega 56/64. The blower is still not good enough for quiet performance but it is not as bad as you put it ...
Badongkadong10/07/2019 09:40

That's very exaggerated. These cards are nothing like the Vega 56/64. The …That's very exaggerated. These cards are nothing like the Vega 56/64. The blower is still not good enough for quiet performance but it is not as bad as you put it ...


It's bad. On some benchmarks the 5700XT was reaching 95c and shutting down.
I will probably be buying a 5700 as it's fantastic value for it's performance, but there is ZERO chance I will buy the reference card. The blower is legit terrible.
Edited by: "MoleUK" 10th Jul
dijital09/07/2019 23:41

Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat …Doesn't matter that they go up to if they are designed to run at that heat and rushed drivers is a staple of AMD and means the card catch up and sometimes surpass their competition over time. And then thee is AMD's "Fine Wine" effect which just means they are not artificially crippled over time to drive sales of newer cards.


Fine wine has been altered with Navi, you won't see the same level of performance increase over time but they will run better on unoptimised games from the get go.
MoleUK10/07/2019 11:23

It's bad. On some benchmarks the 5700XT was reaching 95c and shutting …It's bad. On some benchmarks the 5700XT was reaching 95c and shutting down.I will probably be buying a 5700 as it's fantastic value for it's performance, but there is ZERO chance I will buy the reference card. The blower is legit terrible.


I've not seen any, that must be where they have tried to stress it?
Or this ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2060?
Badongkadong10/07/2019 09:40

That's very exaggerated. These cards are nothing like the Vega 56/64. The …That's very exaggerated. These cards are nothing like the Vega 56/64. The blower is still not good enough for quiet performance but it is not as bad as you put it ...


Linus video, case and point.
joshwos10/07/2019 12:05

Or this ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2060?


If you get one of the new 'Super' cards you get a couple of upcoming AAA games that you could always flog on,
Badongkadong10/07/2019 11:38

I've not seen any, that must be where they have tried to stress it?


Wasn't stressing that hard, confirmed with AMD that there's an issue.
Even after being fixed, these things just run too hot/loud. Only got to wait a month for the other vendors to release non-blower variants.
At 14:45 mark they go over it a bit.
powerbrick10/07/2019 12:28

Linus video, case and point.


I do not dispute that the blower is average at best and runs a bit hotter but all reviews I've read so far have not mentioned it hitting 90°C plus and then burning out.

anandtech.com/sho…/15

techspot.com/rev…00/

tomshardware.com/rev…tml

Only time it pushes to 90 plus is when they're trying to overclock.

Those are just some examples but I totally agree it's best to wait for the partners to bring out the more efficient cooling systems.
joshwos10/07/2019 12:05

Or this ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2060?



The Rog 2060S is almost £450 where the 5700 is £340 and performs similar. Its best to wait about a month and get one of the custom partner cards like Sapphire or PowerColor.

Edit: Misread. Between even a vanilla 2060 and 5700, go for the 5700 no queston
Edited by: "3anana" 10th Jul
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