MSI X570-A PRO AMD AM4 Motherboard, £133 at Currys/ebay
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MSI X570-A PRO AMD AM4 Motherboard, £133 at Currys/ebay

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Posted 22nd May
5% off at checkout, decent board for the money.


Specification
MPN: 117748

USB: - USB Type-C x 1 - USB 3.2 Gen 2 x 1 - USB 3.2 Gen 1 x 4 - USB 2.0 x 2

Other internal connections: - Front panel audio connector x 1 - System panel connector x 2 - TPM module connector x 1 - Serial port connector x 1 - Clear CMOS jumper x 1 - Chassis intrusion connector x 1 - 4-pin RGB LED connector x 2 - 3-pin RAINBOW LED connector x 2 - EZ Debug LEDs x 4

Power: - 24-pin ATX x 1 - 8-pin ATX 12 V x 1 - 4-pin ATX 12 V x 1

Buttons: Flash BIOS button

Cooling: - CPU fan 4-pin x 1 - Water pump connector 4-pin x 1 - System fan connector 4-pin x 4

Storage slots: - SATA x 6 (6 GB/s) - M.2 x 2

Expansion slots: - PCIe (x16) x 1 - PCIe (x4) x 1 - PCIe (x1) x 3

Operating systems supported: Windows 10 or later

Cooling features: Fan cooling

Multi-GPU support: - NVIDIA SLI x 2 - AMD CrossFire x 3

Memory standard: DDR4

Memory slots: 4 x DIMM (Max RAM: 128 GB)

Processor models supported: AMD Ryzen 2nd and 3rd generation processors

Socket: AMD AM4

Chipset: AMD X570

Form factor: ATX

Other external connections: PS/2 Mouse port x 1

Audio: - 3.5 mm jack x 5 - Optical S/PDIF out x 1

LAN: Ethernet port x 1

Video output: - HDMI x 1

Colour: Black

Dimensions: 55 x 265 x 330 mm (H x W x D)

Manufacturer’s guarantee: 3 years

Weight: 1.17 kg

Box contents: MSI X570-A PRO AMD AM4 Motherboard

Height (mm): 55

Width (mm): 265

Depth (mm): 330

Weight Grams: 1170

SKU: 775631
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Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM cooling/capabilities and got hotter than virtually any other board in the class. The new x570 Tomahawk and Unify boards fix this but its not worth buying one of these older boards if you can at all help it.

You would be very dissapointed long term especially if you put a higher power draw chip in later.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
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Isn't this board rated lower than the b450 tomahawk max? I guess if you want PCIe gen 4 this is the cheapest way.
Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM cooling/capabilities and got hotter than virtually any other board in the class. The new x570 Tomahawk and Unify boards fix this but its not worth buying one of these older boards if you can at all help it.

You would be very dissapointed long term especially if you put a higher power draw chip in later.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
I’m on the look out for a board for my Ryzen 3800 .. will be used for gaming .. any suggestions?
If you are not looking to overclock but want something that will offer a longer upgrade path then this should be fine but if you want to do anything fancy then better to save some money and get something better. Tomahawk is brilliant but not so good for future proofing - although it will support the next generation of Ryzen processors.
Adam_Shippam22/05/2020 08:57

Isn't this board rated lower than the b450 tomahawk max? I guess if you …Isn't this board rated lower than the b450 tomahawk max? I guess if you want PCIe gen 4 this is the cheapest way.


FYI AMD have back tracked and will allow 400 chipset motherboards to support 4000 series.
stuellis22/05/2020 10:23

FYI AMD have back tracked and will allow 400 chipset motherboards to …FYI AMD have back tracked and will allow 400 chipset motherboards to support 4000 series.


That's why I was suggesting the tomahawk unless you want PCIe gen 4 guess I should've added that in my comment . This made me happy as I currently have a mortar max.
Edited by: "Adam_Shippam" 22nd May
roloboy22/05/2020 09:02

I’m on the look out for a board for my Ryzen 3800 .. will be used for g …I’m on the look out for a board for my Ryzen 3800 .. will be used for gaming .. any suggestions?


MSI tomahawk, any
X570 tomahawk will be about 220 but looks like itll be one of the go to boards at this range and should have no issues supporting next gen processors. Its also got a better chipset fan location.

Alternatively the more budget orientated b550 range are due very soon now (finally).

Asmedia seemed to have dropped the ball which is why it took so long for them to arrive.

B450 support for at least the first wave on next gen processors will come but will be manufacturer dependant and more hit and miss for support so better to avoid these boards now if you can also. There is also a risk some boards getting the support may lose features during the update due to BIOS rom limitations and also manufacturer support.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 09:00

Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM …Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM cooling/capabilities and got hotter than virtually any other board in the class. The new x570 Tomahawk and Unify boards fix this but its not worth buying one of these older boards if you can at all help it.You would be very dissapointed long term especially if you put a higher power draw chip in later.


That's a bit harsh mate? Firstly this A Pro wasnt and isn't the worst, it was the Gaming model was worst. Secondly the testing was with AIO cooler on a test bench, which results in no airflow. When put in a case with ANY bit of airflow, temps came down 10 degrees. Thirdly 99% of users would use their down firing cpu cooler which would radically reduce temps further. And lastly would you pair a £400+ cpu with a budget board in the first place? For anything up to a 3900x running stock, this is perfectly fine. For 3600 or the likes, same, it's fine. Too much scare-mongering, mostly unfounded? For most normal people, this is a 100% bargain at this price and theres no reason in the world not to use it. If you're going to put a £400-500 cpu, a £1000 gpu etc etc, then I would hope you would do your homework or seek advice accordingly, but this 'advice' to avoid it is not at all fair or balanced and will put many off buying a board that will quite easily serve them well for many years? Overclocking is less and less a useful feature also and forcing an overclock on a modern AMD cpu yields little. Let AMD do what AMD does and you'll get excellent performance and no hassle. For a serious enthusiast, they would know what they are looking for and would see the VRMs as a go-to feature, for which they would expect to pay handsomely. 90%+ of users dont fall into these categories and as such to get an x570 for the same price as a b450 is a bit of a bargain, especially with MSIs max bios and the extra room for code it permits, making it a fairly safe purchase for perhaps 2 gens of cpus? Sweeping statements like this will deter many un-necessarily.
aidan.conway22/05/2020 12:47

That's a bit harsh mate? Firstly this A Pro wasnt and isn't the worst, it …That's a bit harsh mate? Firstly this A Pro wasnt and isn't the worst, it was the Gaming model was worst. Secondly the testing was with AIO cooler on a test bench, which results in no airflow. When put in a case with ANY bit of airflow, temps came down 10 degrees. Thirdly 99% of users would use their down firing cpu cooler which would radically reduce temps further. And lastly would you pair a £400+ cpu with a budget board in the first place? For anything up to a 3900x running stock, this is perfectly fine. For 3600 or the likes, same, it's fine. Too much scare-mongering, mostly unfounded? For most normal people, this is a 100% bargain at this price and theres no reason in the world not to use it. If you're going to put a £400-500 cpu, a £1000 gpu etc etc, then I would hope you would do your homework or seek advice accordingly, but this 'advice' to avoid it is not at all fair or balanced and will put many off buying a board that will quite easily serve them well for many years? Overclocking is less and less a useful feature also and forcing an overclock on a modern AMD cpu yields little. Let AMD do what AMD does and you'll get excellent performance and no hassle. For a serious enthusiast, they would know what they are looking for and would see the VRMs as a go-to feature, for which they would expect to pay handsomely. 90%+ of users dont fall into these categories and as such to get an x570 for the same price as a b450 is a bit of a bargain, especially with MSIs max bios and the extra room for code it permits, making it a fairly safe purchase for perhaps 2 gens of cpus? Sweeping statements like this will deter many un-necessarily.


The entire low end MSI line was found to be poor and regularly the hottest whether on test benches or in cases. This is why MSI has begun to replace them as they got savaged. Not just one model, multiple. MSI have directly given feedback to some of the testers and reviewers that performance was not good enough and not as expected (ie they got lazy), and have conceded the reviewers results when testing the msi boards were accurate.

Hotter VRMs are an easy way to reduce the long term life span of a board.

der8auer.com/x570-motherboard-vrm-overview/
bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/msi-x570-a-pro-review/1/

Examples of poor review of this specific board, not just the gaming model. Hardware Unboxed, other groups and users have also given not particularly great feedback, there are examples on MSIs forums etc. This is NOT a good or well designed board.

The simple matter of the fact is a lot of people don't do much research even when looking to build a machine, so given how much attention is given to the upgrade path on AMD, who's to say they wont stick something better in second-hand later because 'they bought x570 which is good enough'. You are also not factoring in clogged fans and reduced airflow later on, which is a real problem especially as this board does a bad job of dissipating heat by itself. Then there's the assumption that people wouldn't put an expensive chip in a cheap motherboard; as the board was originally around £200, and this is being listed as a bargain, of course they bloody would if they're trying to put together a cheap, high performance machine. I used to see a LOT of examples of mismatched tech when I worked in IT, so again your assumptions don't hold weight with what people actually do.

Throw on that next gen may consume a little more power if some of the performance rumours are true, when there are much better boards available for not much more money, or the new b550 launching which will likely fit a similar pricing profile but with some of the improvements learnt along the way and most of the features, why would I recommend this?

Better to buy smart and not take the risk, people like us can do the research and know what we are getting into, and can find ways to combat limitations. Do not trust everyone to do this, and at this price its not a mega bargain. If it was 100 quid I might think differently, but at over £130 this is good B450, soon to be B550 price range, which will have most of the features the average consumer will want, without the caveats. With that in mind I cannot recommend this unless on the tightest budget, at which point I'd recommend holding for B550 anyway.

Simple really, why buy or recommend something known to be inferior when there is better at a similar price.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 13:19

The entire low end MSI line was found to be poor and regularly the hottest …The entire low end MSI line was found to be poor and regularly the hottest whether on test benches or in cases. This is why MSI has begun to replace them as they got savaged. Not just one model, multiple. MSI have directly given feedback to some of the testers and reviewers that performance was not good enough and not as expected (ie they got lazy), and have conceded the reviewers results when testing the msi boards were accurate.Hotter VRMs are an easy way to reduce the long term life span of a board.der8auer.com/x570-motherboard-vrm-overview/bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/msi-x570-a-pro-review/1/Examples of poor review of this specific board, not just the gaming model. Hardware Unboxed, other groups and users have also given not particularly great feedback, there are examples on MSIs forums etc. This is NOT a good or well designed board.The simple matter of the fact is a lot of people don't do much research even when looking to build a machine, so given how much attention is given to the upgrade path on AMD, who's to say they wont stick something better in second-hand later because 'they bought x570 which is good enough'. You are also not factoring in clogged fans and reduced airflow later on, which is a real problem especially as this board does a bad job of dissipating heat by itself. Then there's the assumption that people wouldn't put an expensive chip in a cheap motherboard; as the board was originally around £200, and this is being listed as a bargain, of course they bloody would if they're trying to put together a cheap, high performance machine. I used to see a LOT of examples of mismatched tech when I worked in IT, so again your assumptions don't hold weight with what people actually do.Throw on that next gen may consume a little more power if some of the performance rumours are true, when there are much better boards available for not much more money, or the new b550 launching which will likely fit a similar pricing profile but with some of the improvements learnt along the way and most of the features, why would I recommend this?Better to buy smart and not take the risk, people like us can do the research and know what we are getting into, and can find ways to combat limitations. Do not trust everyone to do this, and at this price its not a mega bargain. If it was 100 quid I might think differently, but at over £130 this is good B450, soon to be B550 price range, which will have most of the features the average consumer will want, without the caveats. With that in mind I cannot recommend this unless on the tightest budget, at which point I'd recommend holding for B550 anyway.Simple really, why buy or recommend something known to be inferior when there is better at a similar price.


I am not recommending this board, and rarely would I ever recommend an x570 board. There's no real life gains out of using them and there's the potential for the fan to fail. I see no reason to go beyond a decent B450 and probably 75% of our sales are via B450 mobos.The fact still remains that you wouldn't pair this board with an expensive CPU, as stated. The testing you refer to, ALL of the tests, and there are the polar opposite reviews also, if you care to look, are on test benches with the life being thrashed out of the VRM's with huge TDP requirements, which a) is not real life for most people and b) an enthusiast capable of this sort of tinkering would not buy a board with lesser, cheaper VRM's. We are not here to quote the summing up of Hardware Unboxed and their claims to have changed the motherboard world? Nor Gamers Nexus, none of them. In a sensible, NORMAL configuration, this board is very capable. With a 65 Watt TDP CPU, even a 105 Watt older one, this is perfectly fine. When you start looking for a board to supply upwards of 200 Watts as these benches are doing to the board in the configs they are proposing, 'removing the bottlenecks' with £1000+ GPU's, then it is unreasonable. One review even ran Prime 95 for an hour!!!At £200 then maybe they should be slated. At £133 and paired with a reasonable 3600, etc, then for not a lot of money the majority of customers will have no issue. As Wafer sizes decrease, so too will TDP requirements, so the potential for the next gen of CPU should be well covered too. It's quite clear from the previous comments that I wouldn't recommend a top end CPU in them, so I don't understand the statement to the contrary? This is a decent board and represents EXCELLENT value, especially with the potential for a possible Zen3+ if there's ever such a product. What results did you get from this board yourself, as I never had anything close to the temps suggested in them videos? There are better, certainly, but all things taken into account, the feature set and all things considered, nothing, except maybe the ASUS X570-P comes close, but that is a good £40 or £50 more, which is a good CPU upgrade for many... This is a deals site, not a 'what if' site? Offering an opinion is one thing, unfounded advice is something completely different and at worst, unfair to the majority?
aidan.conway22/05/2020 14:09

I am not recommending this board, and rarely would I ever recommend an …I am not recommending this board, and rarely would I ever recommend an x570 board. There's no real life gains out of using them and there's the potential for the fan to fail. I see no reason to go beyond a decent B450 and probably 75% of our sales are via B450 mobos.The fact still remains that you wouldn't pair this board with an expensive CPU, as stated. The testing you refer to, ALL of the tests, and there are the polar opposite reviews also, if you care to look, are on test benches with the life being thrashed out of the VRM's with huge TDP requirements, which a) is not real life for most people and b) an enthusiast capable of this sort of tinkering would not buy a board with lesser, cheaper VRM's. We are not here to quote the summing up of Hardware Unboxed and their claims to have changed the motherboard world? Nor Gamers Nexus, none of them. In a sensible, NORMAL configuration, this board is very capable. With a 65 Watt TDP CPU, even a 105 Watt older one, this is perfectly fine. When you start looking for a board to supply upwards of 200 Watts as these benches are doing to the board in the configs they are proposing, 'removing the bottlenecks' with £1000+ GPU's, then it is unreasonable. One review even ran Prime 95 for an hour!!!At £200 then maybe they should be slated. At £133 and paired with a reasonable 3600, etc, then for not a lot of money the majority of customers will have no issue. As Wafer sizes decrease, so too will TDP requirements, so the potential for the next gen of CPU should be well covered too. It's quite clear from the previous comments that I wouldn't recommend a top end CPU in them, so I don't understand the statement to the contrary? This is a decent board and represents EXCELLENT value, especially with the potential for a possible Zen3+ if there's ever such a product. What results did you get from this board yourself, as I never had anything close to the temps suggested in them videos? There are better, certainly, but all things taken into account, the feature set and all things considered, nothing, except maybe the ASUS X570-P comes close, but that is a good £40 or £50 more, which is a good CPU upgrade for many... This is a deals site, not a 'what if' site? Offering an opinion is one thing, unfounded advice is something completely different and at worst, unfair to the majority?


Again, you seem to have ignored half the point of what I am stating - the board is simply put worse than others out there in similar price ranges, and with the B550 coming which carries PCI-E 4 on the primary M.2 slot and primary PCI-E slot, is not a good buy.
PCI-E 4 is largely useless in most real world situations at current, albeit useful in some limited, mostly productivity related circumstances, where again someone throwing together a system on a budget might try and cut a corner.

As stated, I am not JUST referring to the benchmarkers and reviewers, simply highlighting them as a point of comparable data, as stated in my previous posts, there are USERs of these boards encountering issues due to the VRMs etc. A quick dig of the MSI forums and other forums I encountered a few pretty quickly.. MSI dropped the ball with the X570 line, which is a shame as the B450s were relatively decent, MSI have ADMITTED they dropped the ball on occasion (otherwise blaming AMD). That also tells you when they can they will likely sweep this board under the carpet quite quickly and try to forget about them.

Your argument about CPUs is counterproductive also, once someone buys this board, they can do anything with it, with a 3600 it'll be fine, but there is a very real chance of people putting heavier CPUs in the thing down the line, but also crucially, if they are looking to pair this with a 3600, they are likely going to look at a B series motherboard in the first place, which will offer them better value.
Don't forget the next gen AMD CPUs are on the same fabrication size 7nm, slightly more efficient process, so AMD can chose to ramp clocks or decrease power; some suggestions are they are going for clocks, IPC and more, power draw may increase slightly.

Why on earth would I positively support a board inferior to the competition, at the same price as OTHER good boards with B550 due to arrive in the next few weeks? Objectively this is not a good deal unless you are determined to have X570 at the lowest possible cost, and I am being very straight about that. It is not a good board to buy when there will be more suitable boards, either B450, or if you want future support, by going B550. If you want/need the features of X570, or intend to run a higher end CPU later, then spend a bit more. Better to buy once than twice.

If this is all you need, you use a low CPU and will never go for something more powerful, and MUST have X570, then this is cheap, but that does not make it a good deal.

I suspect maybe we will have to agree to disagree, but based on what I've seen before with people and the way they treat PCs and try to build and upgrade...simply put, I'd rather steer other people elsewhere. This is ONLY good if you MUST have X570 as cheap as possible, everyone else would be better to go for a slightly more expensive X570, without the issues of this board, OR go for an incoming B550, which has most of the features you will need.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
@aidan.conway@alexrose1uk you both seem alot more clued up about computers then I do can you help me out please?
I don't know alot about mobos or cpus and I've been wanting to upgrade my Intel i7 7700k as I've just bought a 2070 super aorus graphics card (and think I'm being bottlenecked) for my valve index and would like to have a beefy pc. I'm also thinking about starting to steam. I've always had intel but have been reading that amd are the better choice nowadays. I was gonna grab a amd ryzen 9 3900x and a x570 aurous master but not sure if I'm going over the top with either of them. What you guys think? Or should I just wait for the new 4000 series? Thanks in advance 👊🏼
DarkHumour22/05/2020 14:30

@aidan.conway @alexrose1uk you both seem alot more clued up about …@aidan.conway @alexrose1uk you both seem alot more clued up about computers then I do can you help me out please? I don't know alot about mobos or cpus and I've been wanting to upgrade my Intel i7 7700k as I've just bought a 2070 super aorus graphics card (and think I'm being bottlenecked) for my valve index and would like to have a beefy pc. I'm also thinking about starting to steam. I've always had intel but have been reading that amd are the better choice nowadays. I was gonna grab a amd ryzen 9 3900x and a x570 aurous master but not sure if I'm going over the top with either of them. What you guys think? Or should I just wait for the new 4000 series? Thanks in advance 👊🏼


If you are not doing production work, and want to buy now, I would suggest looking at the 3700x, and one of the B550 motherboards coming next month, so your primary GPU PCI-E slot has the benefit down the line, as does the main M.2 slot.
3900X at £400 is a great processor, but it's overkill really if you primarily want to game, a 3700X will happily handle some streaming, especially if you offload some of the video encoding to your GPU. The 3600 is cheaper and is a great processor for pure gaming, but with your streaming desire and with the new consoles offering 8 cores, I'd feel more comfortable recommending you something with 8 vs 6 cores to last you longer, as that will be the foundation so many games will be designed around.

This all being said, the indications are that the 4000 series processors will be noticeably better for gaming due to the new CCD/CCX design with lower internal latency (a bit like how the new 3300x punches above its weight, think of these 4000s as bigger versions, with other improvements as well), so if you can wait until the end of the year; that will likely serve you even better.

Depends on how desperate you are to upgrade now. An X570 or B550 board will support the current 3000 series desktop chips, and the new chips coming in the 4000 series.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 14:39

If you are not doing production work, and want to buy now, I would suggest …If you are not doing production work, and want to buy now, I would suggest looking at the 3700x, and one of the B550 motherboards coming next month, so your primary GPU PCI-E slot has the benefit down the line, as does the main M.2 slot.3900X at £400 is a great processor, but it's overkill really if you primarily want to game, a 3700X will happily handle some streaming, especially if you offload some of the video encoding to your GPU. The 3600 is cheaper and is a great processor for pure gaming, but with your streaming desire and with the new consoles offering 8 cores, I'd feel more comfortable recommending you something with 8 vs 6 cores to last you longer, as that will be the foundation so many games will be designed around.This all being said, the indications are that the 4000 series processors will be noticeably better for gaming due to the new CCD/CCX design with lower internal latency (a bit like how the new 3300x punches above its weight, think of these 4000s as bigger versions, with other improvements as well), so if you can wait until the end of the year; that will likely serve you even better.Depends on how desperate you are to upgrade now. An X570 or B550 board will support the current 3000 series desktop chips, and the new chips coming in the 4000 series.


Thanks Alex your a legend! I think I'm gonna try hold out for the 4000 range but if not 3700 sounds like a plan if it'll stream aswell is there much of a diffence in x570 and b550 which one is better in your opinion??
DarkHumour22/05/2020 15:28

Thanks Alex your a legend! I think I'm gonna try hold out for the 4000 …Thanks Alex your a legend! I think I'm gonna try hold out for the 4000 range but if not 3700 sounds like a plan if it'll stream aswell is there much of a diffence in x570 and b550 which one is better in your opinion??


Essential difference is X570 is built to a slightly higher spec overall, features a different core chipset; and all PCI-E slots and M.2 slots will have PCI-E Gen 4. Means it comes with a higher price tag and often a higher feature set as well, but for the majority of people many of these extra features won't mean much. Fancy higher speed network connection, better audio codec onboard, bigger VRMs for pushing all core overclocks (or for overclocking say a 3900X/3950X) etc.

B550 are the new midrange boards, the primary PCI-E slot and M.2 slot will have PCI-E 4, the others will be Gen 3.
(Entry level are A320/420/520)

Overclocking is largely redundant on Ryzen with 3000 series, they don't overclock far, and more benefits are had from getting decent RAM and tweaking timings in many cases, but that is a whole can of worms to research.

To be honest, there are very few situations where PCIE Gen 3 v 4 makes a major difference, except for specific uses (ie extremely high IO for Scientific, Business or certain Production uses) but its a nice to have for looking to the future and will become more important as more devices adapt to make use of the higher bandwidth, which is why B550 includes it. B450 does not support Gen 4 at all.

3700X can definitely stream. youtube.com/wat…9Gs

If you really want to buy NOWish I'd suggest a B550 (due in a few weeks), paired with a 3600 (cheap at around 150 with a basic CPU cooler included, and still more capable than your 7700K, 6 core 12 thread, vs 4c8th) and then take a look at the 4000 series later in the year.

If you want something now-ish but to last a little longer before you look at new CPUs, then 3700X and B550.

If you can wait, 4**** series and B550.
As mentioned above, RAM is important to Ryzen, and it can be more picky, try and get something rated for 3600CL16, 3600CL14 or 3200CL14. It'll help.

Lower CL numbers means lower latency, just don't spend silly amounts on it as RAM is another rabbit hole, and its better to get 3200 CL14/3600CL16, if the 3600CL14 is say £50 more and you could spend than on something more important like better GPU, better SSD etc.
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 15:43

Essential difference is X570 is built to a slightly higher spec overall, …Essential difference is X570 is built to a slightly higher spec overall, features a different core chipset; and all PCI-E slots and M.2 slots will have PCI-E Gen 4. Means it comes with a higher price tag and often a higher feature set as well, but for the majority of people many of these extra features won't mean much. Fancy higher speed network connection, better audio codec onboard, bigger VRMs for pushing all core overclocks (or for overclocking say a 3900X/3950X) etc.B550 are the new midrange boards, the primary PCI-E slot and M.2 slot will have PCI-E 4, the others will be Gen 3.(Entry level are A320/420/520)Overclocking is largely redundant on Ryzen with 3000 series, they don't overclock far, and more benefits are had from getting decent RAM and tweaking timings in many cases, but that is a whole can of worms to research.To be honest, there are very few situations where PCIE Gen 3 v 4 makes a major difference, except for specific uses (ie extremely high IO for Scientific, Business or certain Production uses) but its a nice to have for looking to the future and will become more important as more devices adapt to make use of the higher bandwidth, which is why B550 includes it. B450 does not support Gen 4 at all.3700X can definitely stream. youtube.com/wat…9GsIf you really want to buy NOWish I'd suggest a B550 (due in a few weeks), paired with a 3600 (cheap at around 150 with a basic CPU cooler included, and still more capable than your 7700K, 6 core 12 thread, vs 4c8th) and then take a look at the 4000 series later in the year.If you want something now-ish but to last a little longer before you look at new CPUs, then 3700X and B550.If you can wait, 4**** series and B550.As mentioned above, RAM is important to Ryzen, and it can be more picky, try and get something rated for 3600CL16, 3600CL14 or 3200CL14. It'll help.Lower CL numbers means lower latency, just don't spend silly amounts on it as RAM is another rabbit hole, and its better to get 3200 CL14/3600CL16, if the 3600CL14 is say £50 more and you could spend than on something more important like better GPU, better SSD etc.


B550 sounds like the way to go for someone like me as it sounds future safe and also I don't do overclocking I'm an out the box kinda guy as all that stuff goes straight over my head is there a particular brand that I should look into that you recommend?? I've currently got 2x16gb 3000mhz ram and a 250gb m.2 sata ssd do you think I'd benefit alot from an upgrade?
Sorry for all the questions btw but trust me when I say you've helped me out alot today as I now have a fair few things to go research as before I didn't know where to start 👊🏼
You would get more out with faster ram due to the way the infinity fabric interconnect (Intercpu connectivity) scales but assuming your timings are decent id say give what you have a shot before upgrading, as you may be better off waiting for a better memory kit either larger or better specced cheaper down the line 3000 is minimum really.
This doesnt have 3000 but should give you an idea



No particular brand, just check the reviews when they land, as theyve all produced great boards and really bad ones!
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 22nd May
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 17:56

You would get more out with faster ram due to the way the infinity fabric …You would get more out with faster ram due to the way the infinity fabric interconnect (Intercpu connectivity) scales but assuming your timings are decent id say give what you have a shot before upgrading, as you may be better off waiting for a better memory kit either larger or better specced cheaper down the line 3000 is minimum really.This doesnt have 3000 but should give you an idea[Video] No particular brand, just check the reviews when they land, as theyve all produced great boards and really bad ones!


Thanks for all the advice bro! Hope you have a great weekend 👊🏼
DarkHumour22/05/2020 20:03

Thanks for all the advice bro! Hope you have a great weekend Thanks for all the advice bro! Hope you have a great weekend 👊🏼


No problem. Always better someone puts the money where itll matter than on bling, buzzwords or overkill
If you save a few hundred now, thats a whole new graphics card in a few years etc...
Great for frying eggs
alexrose1uk22/05/2020 09:00

Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM …Dont buy this board. The early MSI X570 had terrible VRM cooling/capabilities and got hotter than virtually any other board in the class. The new x570 Tomahawk and Unify boards fix this but its not worth buying one of these older boards if you can at all help it.You would be very dissapointed long term especially if you put a higher power draw chip in later.


owner of x570 MPG Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi - which was completely slammed to the ground by hardware unboxed channel
I am yet to have problems with VRM cooling solution while pushing first the 3600x to 4.48GHz and later the 3900x 4.72GHz on an 10 year old Noctua NH-U12SE2
It might be the fact that I bought the board in December last year but there were no revisions available at that time. I wouldn't buy an X570-A PRO for sure but it doesn't mean that the whole product lineup for MSI is terrible
Spychi25/05/2020 09:47

owner of x570 MPG Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi - which was completely slammed to …owner of x570 MPG Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi - which was completely slammed to the ground by hardware unboxed channelI am yet to have problems with VRM cooling solution while pushing first the 3600x to 4.48GHz and later the 3900x 4.72GHz on an 10 year old Noctua NH-U12SE2It might be the fact that I bought the board in December last year but there were no revisions available at that time. I wouldn't buy an X570-A PRO for sure but it doesn't mean that the whole product lineup for MSI is terrible


The problem is it seems the issue is on a case by case basis, some boards and chips are better and worse than others.
As well as instability, issues can also manifest in long term lifespan or downclocking with these sorts of issues.

With other boards available without the issues in a similar price range, and the new b550s due in a few weeks, this or the other affected boards really arent a good buy as you are playing a lottery that you could avoid completely. If you dig into the MSI forums you can see users complaining also, not just reviewers and test benchers.

If you upgrade frequently that may not matter to you but as I will always recommend based around longer term purchases, I would still advise to avoid the old MSI low end boards to simply avoid the lottery. With the alternatives, its just not prudent advice.

This being said the high end x570 boards, and the newer mid range x570 Unify and Tomahawk seem to completely resolve these issues, so this isnt a blanket recommendation against MSI, just a point of contention with these older low-midrange x570 boards as MSI themselves admitted they werent good enough and fixed the issues in the Unify and Tomahawk. Its a shame they didnt follow through and completely discontinue the older designs also but I suspect they had inventory to shift...

I hope thier new B550 continue to be as good as these revised X570, and the B450 boards were, as if so they will be a go to brand again at all price points.

The x570 tomahawk due out any day looks exceptional at around the 220 mark, and they moved the chipset fan so it avoids larger graphics cards which is a great move for both chipset and graphics card heat. If anyone wants to buy for longer term and needs the features of x570 at the lower end of the x570 price spectrum, this would be my recommended board, so again Im not anti-MSI, I just cannot in good faith advise anyone to take the lottery on these old low end x570 boards, especially as low sales will send a good message to MSI not to make the same mistake again (ie laziness).
Edited by: "alexrose1uk" 25th May
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